Concept Camaro

[A9L]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, if so sorry. There was a news item on with Designer showing his handy work (what a frigen great looking car) the new not so concept Camaro going into production but destend for the bloody Yanks! (sorry to any septics on here)

Pete (Designer) what is the thinking regarding the Camaro only going to America, I would have thought that there would be a huge market for it here! I know you have said don't give up hope but was it that there wasn`t enough interest here (Australia).

[VE II]

The Comaro is planned to be a global car. I think its being made in Canada? My understanding is that Holden would have to access where abouts in its lineup it would sit and they'd also have to make it right hand drive as opposed to the left hand drive. Its pretty promising that we will see it, but not till 2010ish... But i agree its an awesome car and would make any holden fan proud!

oh and if its released here it WONT be called the 'monaro' - probably remain as the "comaro"

[gab73]

Camaro????

[monarocveightz]

Camaro;)

Holden haven't said they won't bring it here.....

I'm sure they could sell it at the Cadillac & HUMMER devisions here....

Edit: slightly too quick for me Gab

[VE II]

by comaro i mean camaro - long day - sorry - tried to edit it but was too late.

[VE II]

Heres a good link - with some pics as well
http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/research/story/m uscle_show_chevrolet_camaro/

But although the car has plenty of Commodore DNA, there is still no official word on whether Australians will get to drive it. Holden is still waiting on GM to make a decision about making the car in right-hand-drive.
“If there is confirmation of right-hand-drive, we'd be interested,” says Holden's John Lindsay.

[A9L]

Heres a good link - with some pics as well
http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/research/story/m uscle_show_chevrolet_camaro/

But although the car has plenty of Commodore DNA, there is still no official word on whether Australians will get to drive it. Holden is still waiting on GM to make a decision about making the car in right-hand-drive.
“If there is confirmation of right-hand-drive, we'd be interested,” says Holden's John Lindsay.

Thanks Mate that filled in a few blanks. I must say that pete and his team have done a **** hot job on this one, there is nothing I don`t like about it!

[VE II]

yeah its pretty much a drool fest. if that car was a woman it'd be on for young and old. pretty sure divorce would hit 100% :p.

[barnart]

I see on the news tonight that GMH have scraped 90 new projects in Australia and around 12000 jobs will go in the local car industry over the next few years.

[VE II]

way to support locally industry rudd.
everythings moving overseas - its stupid. work choice may not have been marketed right, but they kept people in jobs and they kept jobs here. plus all the trade agreements that were in place encouraged local businesses. sucks to all those who have to lose their jobs :(

[Designer]

I see on the news tonight that GMH have scraped 90 new projects in Australia and around 12000 jobs will go in the local car industry over the next few years.

Yeah, not looking good Scott ...the US will be hit harder I think, including Ford and Chysler.

Maybe our Government can give Ford Aust. and Holden a 70 million dollar handout like they did Toyota :confused:

They hand over that much money to a company who has a percieved green image...what a load of crock, they sell the biggest fuel guzzler and most inefficient vehicle in the country, the Lancruiser...

[wayno]

If the Camaro is sold here I will be buying one.

[barnart]

The way I look at it is Goodyear tyres in Melbourne are closing down and moving off shore. Why couldn't Mr Rudd (the Dudd) say to Toyota here is the $$$ for a new green car and by the way you must fit Aussie made Goodyear tyres to it.

[monarocveightz]

If the Camaro is sold here I will be buying one.


Can you get me one while your at it:D

Pete, don't forget that Toyota makes the Prius.......that makes everything ok:rolleyes:

[wayno]

Even though the Prius is less green than a Mercedes S class according to the Germans.

[Designer]

The way I look at it is Goodyear tyres in Melbourne are closing down and moving off shore. Why couldn't Mr Rudd (the Dudd) say to Toyota here is the $$$ for a new green car and by the way you must fit Aussie made Goodyear tyres to it.

The real question is, how "green" will it be over an extended period of time ??

This is a short term decision made by the goverment for self promotion...there's no hiding it.

[Designer]

Can you get me one while your at it:D

Pete, don't forget that Toyota makes the Prius.......that makes everything ok:rolleyes:


Prius.:rolleyes:
...and what do you do with it after it's past its used by date ???

If you want to feel good inside because you drive a vehicle with a "Hybrid" badge on the boot....go right ahead. you're fooling yourself though.

[wayno]

I think I could feel good driving a Camaro.

[Designer]

I think I could feel good driving a Camaro.

;) yeah baby

[brchi17]

If the Camaro is sold here I will be buying one.

boy I wish to be a single man with expendable income :cool:

I saw a black one today following a red G8 & boy did it look good, nearly drove off the road as I was that busy watching it!!!

I must admit, it's the first car since CV8 that has really got my interest, I just hope if we ever do get it in Oz as it's not too dear, as I would love to own one for a daily driver :drool: !!!

[monarocveightz]

Prius.:rolleyes:
...and what do you do with it after it's past its used by date ???

If you want to feel good inside because you drive a vehicle with a "Hybrid" badge on the boot....go right ahead. you're fooling yourself though.

Exactly.

There are plenty of other similar cars, with a normal motor that does the same job, just as effieciently.....and doesn't have that evil battery

VW Golf TSI for example

[wayno]

Price will be the killer. I had my heart set on a HSV R8 wagon but my boys have decided I need a Camaro instead.

[brchi17]

The way I look at it is Goodyear tyres in Melbourne are closing down and moving off shore. Why couldn't Mr Rudd (the Dudd) say to Toyota here is the $$$ for a new green car and by the way you must fit Aussie made Goodyear tyres to it.

Goodyears problem was that while their Aussie department was making money, they could make more if it was made elsewhere, so off they went.....I must admit I don't feel guilty as I run Michelins on my Commodore!

[Designer]

Even though the Prius is less green than a Mercedes S class according to the Germans.


hHw many of the general public would rate the Prius as the greenest car around ???
I'd say most of them.....that's where Toyota are destroying everyone else...percieved enviromental awareness and sensativity.

clever company.

[brchi17]

Price will be the killer. I had my heart set on a HSV R8 wagon but my boys have decided I need a Camaro instead.

mate on your income, you could have both :cool:

[VXfan]

Price will be the killer. I had my heart set on a HSV R8 wagon but my boys have decided I need a Camaro instead.
Well if u get a Camaro make sure u yell out "Power!" as many times as u can a la JC.:D
Cheers,
Tony.

[VE II]

Im going to get a yellow one and call it bumblebee - wonder if it comes with a free megan fox?

[Holdennumber1]

Does anyone know what it will cost here(if it is released in Australia) or what it costs in America?

[VE II]

22-25k in US i think - from memory... Pete? And i think thats V8 with the variable cylinder technology (shuts down to 4cyls when not accelerating)

[VE II]

... which is really really low considering that Aus $ = US $ and what $22k buys here (not much). Though the SS commodore (pontiac) wont be selling for much over there ($30k?) - very "underpriced." and thats with importing costs and everything!

[brchi17]

I would expect Holden to sell it for 60k+ as otherwise it would steel too many sales away from the mainstream Holden models :sad:

Imagine if it was sold for 22k here in Oz, they would never be able to build enough of them :cool: !!!

[Holdennumber1]

I would expect Holden to sell it for 60k+ as otherwise it would steel too many sales away from the mainstream Holden models :sad:

Imagine if it was sold for 22k here in Oz, they would never be able to build enough of them :cool: !!! I thought it would be worth a bit more than $60,000. It has stunning muscle car looks and If I was a rich little boy, I'd pay up to $100,000, considering that Holden sells their new performance car(sorry, I forgot what it's called) for $150,000.

[wayno]

I would expect Holden to sell it for 60k+ as otherwise it would steel too many sales away from the mainstream Holden models :sad:

Imagine if it was sold for 22k here in Oz, they would never be able to build enough of them :cool: !!!

I'm looking at up to 100k. If it's cheaper I'll be wrapt as I'll be able to get the motor 'tickled' a little. :D

[Designer]

I'm looking at up to 100k. If it's cheaper I'll be wrapt as I'll be able to get the motor 'tickled' a little. :D


100k !!!
It's a friggin Camaro, not an overpriced Bimmer !!!! ;)

[david5]

Can I have mine in Hugger Orange with a 427 & some 20 inch compomotive Minilite style wheels please ?

Cheers david

[Buffalo]

100k !!!
It's a friggin Camaro, not an overpriced Bimmer !!!! ;)

If GMH don;t sell 'em in Oz as an official product then I would expect the importers to get hold of them and wouldn;t be surprised if they sold them for 150K ! ... Take the US purchase price + freight + insurance + duties + GST + conversion ( usually 40K ) + Oz compliance will probably take 'em to 110K cost and then the importers add their profit so 150K is probably not out of the ballpark.

[bimmerboy]

It's all about supply and demand. If the numbers being imported by GMH are restricted by worldwide supply, and demand here is greater, then they would be mad not to "inflate" the price to the point where supply and demand match (a la Ferrari). And thus the bigger retained profit in the Camaro offsets any other models in the range that are struggling to contribute.

I recall reading somewhere they needed to be able to sell 4000 per year world wide in RHD to make it feasible - that includes obviously the UK, Japan, etc..

And that sales in Europe are restricted to 5000 units per year as the lowline bonnet is not compatible with EC pedestrian impact legislation.

Hey, Designer, appreciate that you're probably busy, but how about using your outstanding graphic skills and giving us an image of the new Camaro in Bob Jane livery (or maybe all dressed up in Sunoco colours) ????

[david5]

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THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD. And I bet if Pete hasnt already done it,hes thought about doing it

Cheers David

[LionKing05]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from certain angles it looks like a re-born 1975 Celica????

[brchi17]

100k !!!
It's a friggin Camaro, not an overpriced Bimmer !!!! ;)

exactly, which is why I think if it ever was sold in Oz then it would be a lot closer to the old CV8 pricing structure ;)

[toecutter]

Review on the lasted issue of Top Gear.

2DLaoJewAiE

info at the 4 minute mark.

....... so where is this wedding with 7 crates of beer;)

[Road Runner 72]

he needed more than 17% in the hammer head lol.

[Designer]

THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD. And I bet if Pete hasnt already done it,hes thought about doing it

Cheers David


no comment.....:o

[Designer]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from certain angles it looks like a re-born 1975 Celica????

Your're wrong, you have been corrected.

[david5]

That model Celica was a loose copy of the original shape Camaro & the next model was a copy of the Mustang

Cheers David

[Welby]

Originally Posted by Designer http://forums.biante.com.au/images/buttons/viewpos t.gif (http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?p=2630 95#post263095)
100k !!!
It's a friggin Camaro, not an overpriced Bimmer !!!! ;)
If GMH don;t sell 'em in Oz as an official product then I would expect the importers to get hold of them and wouldn;t be surprised if they sold them for 150K ! ... Take the US purchase price + freight + insurance + duties + GST + conversion ( usually 40K ) + Oz compliance will probably take 'em to 110K cost and then the importers add their profit so 150K is probably not out of the ballpark.

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My boss bought a 2008 Mustang Shelby Cobra last year.
I believe 60 k US is the price over there.
By the time it landed, converted and got dutifully taxed (pardon the pun) i believe it owes >$180 K

I'm told Holden will release these at the next motor show, but wasn't there a story that the manufacturers had decided to gether the cost was too high and so cancelled this years round of shows?

Welby

[commanderwhite]

This Camaro but all accounts will be built here in Oz & exported to the US & other countries.

It will be the next version of the Monaro & it's release date at this stage is 2012.

I was told this by members of the Monaro Car Club of NSW who have been in contact with Holden & it was virtually confirmed by GM executives in the US in early Jan.

[Chev_350]

This Camaro but all accounts will be built here in Oz & exported to the US & other countries.

It will be the next version of the Monaro & it's release date at this stage is 2012.

I was told this by members of the Monaro Car Club of NSW who have been in contact with Holden & it was virtually confirmed by GM executives in the US in early Jan.

Wait.....are you suggesting that the Camaro is going to be Aussie made?

Don't think that is the case....made in Canada

[kts350]

exactly, which is why I think if it ever was sold in Oz then it would be a lot closer to the old CV8 pricing structure ;)

If they can sell it here for between 40 and 60k then that's my new car.. The wife is American and absolutely loves chevy's she sure some pics of the camaro and wants one.. anymore then 60k then its plan b she buys a ute and I get heads and cam for the SS we have now..

[monarocveightz]

Wait.....are you suggesting that the Camaro is going to be Aussie made?

Don't think that is the case....made in Canada

I can't see them calling it a Monaro here either.......It wouldn't be one to me.....

[brchi17]

I can't see them calling it a Monaro here either.......It wouldn't be one to me.....

unless it looks like that Coupe 60 concept vehicle ;)

[commanderwhite]

Wait.....are you suggesting that the Camaro is going to be Aussie made?

Don't think that is the case....made in Canada

I can't see them calling it a Monaro here either.

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Fellas - Only going by what I have been told to me by MCC members one of whom still works for Holden.

It was also confirmed in the Daily Telegraph mid Jan in the Wheels sections.

Only time will tell................

[wayno]

I'm just hoping the whole project doesn't fall over due to this economic crisis as I really, really need to own a yellow one of these with black stripes! :cool:

[monarocveightz]

unless it looks like that Coupe 60 concept vehicle ;)


Well then it would be a Monaro to me.....but if it looks like the Camaro does now....it doesn't look like a Monaro to me:D

[Designer]

Well then it would be a Monaro to me.....but if it looks like the Camaro does now....it doesn't look like a Monaro to me:D

Monaro is a Monaro...Camaro is a Camaro. Different cars.
One is a 2+2 Ponycar, one is a true 4 seater Coupe.

[VE II]

Could always call it "torana" down under? Unless that name is reserved for the new mid size australian made vehicle?

[wayno]

No! It is a Camaro!
No other name will suffice. ;)

[Designer]

Could always call it "torana" down under? Unless that name is reserved for the new mid size australian made vehicle?

{Banging head against brick wall}
No you cant, Torana means something else altogether.. you cant just throw names at a car, especially a cult one !!!

The Camaro is a Camaro. More importantly it is a Chevrolet, a Chevrolet Ponycar and always will be. One thing it is not, is a Holden, and never will be....

[monarocveightz]

Monaro is a Monaro...Camaro is a Camaro. Different cars.
One is a 2+2 Ponycar, one is a true 4 seater Coupe.

You explained it so much better:D

[malscar]

Pete, you are always going to have people wanting to drag up a name of a old expired car that they love. They just don't realise that the Torana was nothing special except the homologation specials and their spinoffs (XU1, L34, SLR5000 and A9X). Who would want the 1967 Torana as a example.

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[Designer]

Pete, you are always going to have people wanting to drag up a name of a old expired car that they love. They just don't realise that the Torana was nothing special except the homologation specials and their spinoffs (XU1, L34, SLR5000 and A9X). Who would want the 1967 Torana as a example.

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Dont get me wrong ...drawing on historic model names is great, I'm all for it...they just have to align with the new product they're being attached to!

I remember driving down to Rare-spares and buying and old Monaro badge, so we could do a modern interpretation of it for the new V2 Monaro:D
Like I said...I'm all for keeping Holden's heritage, just on the right cars....Camaro is not one of them, it's a Chev ;)

[rayman]

{Banging head against brick wall}
No you cant, Torana means something else altogether.. you cant just throw names at a car, especially a cult one !!!

The Camaro is a Camaro. More importantly it is a Chevrolet, a Chevrolet Ponycar and always will be. One thing it is not, is a Holden, and never will be....

So was the Suburban. Just throw a Holden badge on it and wala, HOLDEN CAMARO.

[VE II]

Ok you can call it a Camaro... :o:D

[Chev_350]

Could always call it "torana" down under? Unless that name is reserved for the new mid size australian made vehicle?

What?!.....Wash your mouth out

[wayno]

Ok you can call it a Camaro... :o:D

I don't want one with any other badge! :D

[malscar]

What I think is sad is the people who have to change the badges on the Holden Commodores to Chev stuff. No matter what they do, the car will always be a Commodore thank goodness. Not many Chevs in the last 20 years are anywhere close to a Commodore.

[ratster70]

agrees all the way with ya there malscar its a holden so leave the badges as holden and yes it peeves me off how the yank cars come here and badged as holdens or the other way around how the holdens go there badged as there cars buicks, pontiacs etc its a bloody holden for christ sake same as a camaro is a camaro

[monarocveightz]

What I think is sad is the people who have to change the badges on the Holden Commodores to Chev stuff. No matter what they do, the car will always be a Commodore thank goodness. Not many Chevs in the last 20 years are anywhere close to a Commodore.


That gives me the ****'s too....

[wayno]

Agree with both you guys on that one. One word - posers! :rolleyes:

[rayman]

Another word is one that starts with W an ends in kers

[whitlam]

What I think is sad is the people who have to change the badges on the Holden Commodores to Chev stuff. No matter what they do, the car will always be a Commodore thank goodness. Not many Chevs in the last 20 years are anywhere close to a Commodore.

That is one of my pet hates especially when they change the front badge but not the back or the wheel centre caps, they're not fooling anybody :mad:

[Designer]

agrees all the way with ya there malscar its a holden so leave the badges as holden and yes it peeves me off how the yank cars come here and badged as holdens or the other way around how the holdens go there badged as there cars buicks, pontiacs etc its a bloody holden for christ sake same as a camaro is a camaro

It's ironic really....buyers insist on putting Chev badges on their Holdens here which I find ridiculous, yet in the US there's a conversion kit to turn your G8 into a Commodore SSV!

Gotta laugh...I find it amusing.

[minh427]

It's ironic really....buyers insist on putting Chev badges on their Holdens here which I find ridiculous, yet in the US there's a conversion kit to turn your G8 into a Commodore SSV!

Gotta laugh...I find it amusing.

And yet the lions den store here in Sydney sells a Chev badged grille for the Commodore for $150. lol

[wayno]

Does iut fix up the dopey looking front they've got on their cars? :rolleyes:

[Designer]

Does iut fix up the dopey looking front they've got on their cars? :rolleyes:

I actually like the G8 front in some ways....the twin nostrils reminds me of VT/VX days. G8's look far better in the flesh.
It's bolder than VE..more distinctive character
While i love the VE front {of course:D}...it's only critisizm would be it's a little non descript in it's graphics..

The front of the G8 was actually designed in Australia, but the US were pretty vocal on exactly what they wanted.

The new GXP version is better than the GT...that's the pick.

[minh427]

Hey Designer, will the wagon be going to the US?

[brchi17]

apart from the V looking section where the Pontiac badge is in the front grill arrangement, I actually think they look better than the VE, with the bonnet vents of course...originally from the pics I thought it looked a bit iffy, but I regularly see G8's and the now dead Pontiac utes in my traveling to and from work and the front end has really grown on me......I just wish they would put more Camero's on the road as they are a real head turner :cool: !!!

[Welby]

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Could always call it "torana" down under? Unless that name is reserved for the new mid size australian made vehicle?

{Banging head against brick wall}
No you cant, Torana means something else altogether.. you cant just throw names at a car, especially a cult one !!!



Umm, nup, no can do, not even close.

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[Welby]

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[kts350]

If this is correct we are not getting the Camaro the missus is gutted..

GENERAL Motors has cancelled a proposed right-hand-drive Camaro, according to a report in the UK – the largest of its potential export markets.

That would mean Australia would not get the new sports coupe, even though it was developed by GM Holden at Fishermans Bend on the Holden Commodore platform.

Export plans for the UK market have been slashed from several thousand right-hand drive Camaros to just 100 left-hand drive coupes and convertibles. This volume is small enough to scrape under the UK’s design rules threshold, according to Autocar magazine, which broke the story.

The RHD version could also have been sold in Japan and South Africa, but the global economic recession and the aftershock of 2008’s record high oil prices appear to have killed off the project.

Locally, GM Holden played a straight bat on the report.

“There was nothing to cancel,” spokeswoman Kate Lonsdale said. “The right-hand drive Camaro program had never been confirmed.”

link to the full article..
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/ 4FC8EB911D69896ACA25755E007DE49C

[wayno]

I am APOPLECTIC with rage!!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Kashmir]

Man that sucks.

[wayno]

I've been gearing up to buy one of these for ages and this is a real kick in the teeth.
Dunno what to buy now. The R8 wagon appeals to me, but I don't have the same passion for it as I do for the Camaro.
Absolutely gutted, but not surprised as GM (as well as the rest of the American car companies) couldn't run a piss up at C.U.B.

[kts350]

I've been gearing up to buy one of these for ages and this is a real kick in the teeth.
Dunno what to buy now. The R8 wagon appeals to me, but I don't have the same passion for it as I do for the Camaro.
Absolutely gutted, but not surprised as GM (as well as the rest of the American car companies) couldn't run a piss up at C.U.B.

Actually the missus feels the same way, we've been tossing up for ages what to get for our 2nd car.. had a big list inlcuding a ute, crewman, sportswagon do we wait for the next model commodore instead.. My wife is American grew up up the 60's and 70's the golden years of U.S. muscle cars.. As soon as she saw the new Camaro she looked at me and said we found our 2nd car..
Given all the cars we had looked and thought about (cant include the next commodore in that) this was the first car both said wow thats it.. The missus now says bugger another car we are keeping the VYSS for good..

[brchi17]

I can't believe the stupidity of GM's leaders, here they have a dead set hit but can't see anything another other than their own backyard.....:mad: !!!

Hopefully someone in Holden has the balls to continue this project or even something along the Coupe 60 lines, as I know if the price of the Camero was going to be near what the last Monaro was, then it was certainly going to be on my shopping list when I replace my current ride in a couple of years

[monarocveightz]

oh:(

Very dissapointing....

I wonder if GM is going to use the money it would cost to tool up RHD cars, to make more greener cars.....(IE the Chev Volt etc)

[Designer]

I can't believe the stupidity of GM's leaders, here they have a dead set hit but can't see anything another other than their own backyard.....:mad: !!!

Hopefully someone in Holden has the balls to continue this project or even something along the Coupe 60 lines, as I know if the price of the Camero was going to be near what the last Monaro was, then it was certainly going to be on my shopping list when I replace my current ride in a couple of years

Holden has got lots of balls, unfortunately it doesn't make the decisions anymore....it's changed so much since the last Monaro was done...
If Holden had it's way, the Coupe 60 would be in showrooms right now...unfortunately domestic volumes alone cant justiy a strong business case for the car.

Instead of getting angry about the cars the US arnt letting happen, we should be starting to worry what they'll kill next...

[wayno]

Pete, I don't even want to think about what they'll kill next.
At the moment I'm just shattered that my next car has been pulled from our market.
I suppose I could look at a converted unit, but the cost of these (based on vettes etc) just doesn't justify the price.

[rayman]

Was it ever destined for our market?

[wayno]

Was it ever destined for our market?

So we were told. 2010, then 2012 so I suppose I should have expected this. :rolleyes:

[brchi17]

Holden has got lots of balls, unfortunately it doesn't make the decisions anymore....it's changed so much since the last Monaro was done...
If Holden had it's way, the Coupe 60 would be in showrooms right now...unfortunately domestic volumes alone cant justiy a strong business case for the car.

Instead of getting angry about the cars the US arnt letting happen, we should be starting to worry what they'll kill next...

well I hope they don't kill off anymore good ideas, as otherwise, I'll seriously be looking at a non-Holden product for my next vehicle when the time comes...like Wayno, I so liked the idea of a Camero, as when it was going to be released, I was looking like having enough $$$ to purchase one, unlike the CV8 which was put to rest before I could afford a new one :(

[Holdennumber1]

This is sad news. I was really looking forward to seeing these little beuties cruising around the street.
Also, what I really wanted to know was, is it still possible to get a left hand drive Camaro shipped over to Australia? I know it wouldn't be practical and it'd be a costly exercise, but I wonder if it'll happen.
Cheers,
Thomas

[wayno]

I'm sure people will ship them over but the price with conversion will be stupid.

[brchi17]

I can only imagine importers rubbing their hands at the thought there Wayno, but also agree, for the dollars it would cost, there are plenty other vehicles I'd rather have...

[malscar]

Agree about the price Wayno. Just look at the scalping being done with the RHD Mustangs over the last couple of years. AUD150k plus :eek:

[wayno]

I know, it's ridiculous.
For that sort of money I would rather have an Audi RS4.
Hmmmm, there's an idea..........;)

[monarocveightz]

I know, it's ridiculous.
For that sort of money I would rather have an Audi RS4.
Hmmmm, there's an idea..........;)

Can't buy them brand new thouh Wayno....the RS6 should be here soon in sedan form....

I pefer the RS4 Myself

This is sad news. I was really looking forward to seeing these little beuties cruising around the street.
Also, what I really wanted to know was, is it still possible to get a left hand drive Camaro shipped over to Australia? I know it wouldn't be practical and it'd be a costly exercise, but I wonder if it'll happen.
Cheers,
Thomas

Of course Thomas.....people do it all the time with Hummers and the like,.

[Road Runner 72]

Looks like I will have to try find a nice old 68 or 69 & a bunch of years with spare time to make my childhood dream comes true.............well one of them anyway, as my other childhood dreams are all married & have kids now ;)

[malscar]

There are a few '67/'68/'69 Camaros in this months Just Cars magazine. (and some very nice Muzzies as well ;) )

[Road Runner 72]

lol, sneaky buddy! Yeah, but a dream I still have but have others to get out the way 1st, but looking forward to the day I get to go for a ride in a one is the 1st step Mal ;)

[malscar]

At least the dream of a Camaro is cheaper in the long run than those other dreams you mentioned.

[Road Runner 72]

How true, how very true! lol