What New Australian Touring Car Models Do We Want Biante to Make?

[SDK]

Unsure of what is on the drawing board at Biante HQ yet this is my little wish list:

RX7's Enables the various Moffat ATCC Champ winners, Bathurst Cars, & then the other classics including McLeod, Morris etc
Nissan Bluebirds
XU1's, HDT Beast, The Brock Rallycross, Bob Jane's XU1, Bob Morris XU1
The Jane & Geoghegan Monaro sports sedans. Would also buy the model in Brock colours
Johnson Mustangs
Bob Morris XD & XE's. There's a number of others that would look great also.
Camaros, Lets go. The Bathurst Pole sitters & KB even had an ATCC race win or two. The old BBQ Galores ones didn't look to bad either.
The VN/VP Commodores, Perkins, Brock, HRT, etc.
Brock Commodore Repco Trial winner
The VK/VL Commodores that represented Australia in Europe/NZ. A number of different cars could be done. Brock/Mobil, Moffat/Rothmans, Grice/?

[SS Commodore]

All of the above plus Especially 1984 Fury Bathurst Bluebird

1993 Perkins Bathurst Winner
1967 GTA Mustang Pete Geoghegan

[Damage]

Not sure but I think there is already a thread for this somewhere. Everybody knows which ones I'm waiting for. After that, more Brock Bathurst winners!

[SS Commodore]

Not sure but I think there is already a thread for this somewhere. Everybody knows which ones I'm waiting for. After that, more Brock Bathurst winners!

Besides the 1987 winner aren't CC doing the others? (80,82,83)

[Kashmir]

Not sure but I think there is already a thread for this somewhere. Everybody knows which ones I'm waiting for. After that, more Brock Bathurst winners!

nah we don't know which ones you're after cause you never mention it:p:D

[HDT337]

I'm not a big ute fan, but a few come to mind....

Brock farewell ute (Oran Park)

Skaife farewell ute

HSV Fastest ute Land Speed Record holder

and something very different.....

HJ, HX, HZ Holden Overlander 4x4, either ute, station wagon, panelvan, or Statesman.
(My brother built a ute from one of the last genuine kits available years ago)

Also, we can never have enough Brock models......

HDT337

[8hype]

i am hanging for a vc brock road car in white.please please please

[SS Mick]

Here.s just a few of mine all in 1/64 scale :-
Bill Brown 1971 Bathurst XY GTHO
Gibson/Seton 1973 Bathurst XA GT
Goss/Bartlett 1974 Bathurst XA GT "Winner"
Brock/Sampson 1974 Bathurst L34 Torana
Brabham/Moss 1976 Bathurst L34 Torana
Morris/Gardner 1975 Bathurst L34 Torana
Goss/Richards 1976 Bathurst XB GT
Carter/Lawrence 1978 Bathurst XC Cobra
Brock/Richards 1980 Bathurst VB Commodore
Muir/Geoghegan 1981 Bathurst XD Falcon (Army Reserve car)
Grice/Bailey 1986 Bathurst VK Commodore
Brock/Moffat 1986 Bathurst VK Commodore "Winner"

Thats all I can think of ATM :)

[supa-roo]

Most of those would be my choices as well, but I would still like to the the John Bowe Falcon with his face on the bonnet, just sentimental I spose

[singer]

Most of those would be my choices as well, but I would still like to the the John Bowe Falcon with his face on the bonnet, just sentimental I spose


The Bowe 'Stonie' version?:D

[group C]

i am hanging for a vc brock road car in white.please please please

Me too Matt,
but because i was greedy and got all 3 VK's i suppose i will have to get all the VC's as well:D
Just have to work harder:mad:

[bullet]

Im sick of the Holdens and Fords, bring on the Bluebirds, RX7's etc.

[Chev_350]

I'd like to see some safety cars and transporters......but thats just me.

[monarocveightz]

i am hanging for a vc brock road car in white.please please please

I'll let you have a white one...if you let me have a Black one:D

[Damage]

Here.s just a few of mine all in 1/64 scale :-

Brock/Moffat 1986 Bathurst VK Commodore "Winner"

Thats all I can think of ATM :)

Did they win and I dont know about it? :D

[Andrew]

Im sick of the Holdens and Fords, bring on the Bluebirds, RX7's etc.

x2. But Brock sells as do Fords and Holdens. Biante have to do what makes sound business sense.

[SS Mick]

Originally Posted by SS Mick View Post
Here.s just a few of mine all in 1/64 scale :-

Brock/Moffat 1986 Bathurst VK Commodore "Winner"

Thats all I can think of ATM
Did they win and I dont know about it?

Sorry, just a typo was supposed to be on the Grice/Bailey car

[MarkHM]

Hmmm ...let me see.

Brock 850 SuperTouring Volvo
Brock 12 Hour Volvo
Brock 12 hour Peugeot 405
Brock 12 hour James Hardie VN
Brock/Scott 12 hour VP

how's that for starters?

[royaloaks]

Robbie Francevic (NZ) Volvo, 1986 ATTC.

[Kashmir]

Robbie Francevic (NZ) Volvo, 1986 ATTC.

The ugliest car to win the ATCC Lol.

[singer]

The ugliest car to win the ATCC Lol.

In your opinion;)

[Kashmir]

In your opinion;)

yep;)

[Pug205]

Brock 12 hour Peugeot 405



I could be persuaded to get one of those too ;)

[singer]

I could be persuaded to get one of those too ;)

Ditto:)

[monarocveightz]

The ugliest car to win the ATCC Lol.

Probably the safest car to win ;):D

I'd get those Brock cars too:o:D

[Kashmir]

Probably the safest car to win ;):D

nah i think the cars now are much safer:D

[david5]

Hmmm ...let me see.

Brock 850 SuperTouring Volvo
Brock 12 Hour Volvo
Brock 12 hour Peugeot 405
Brock 12 hour James Hardie VN
Brock/Scott 12 hour VP

how's that for starters?

No Austin ??

[ViperSRT10]

Without doubt, I'd like to see the Moffat/Hansford or Katayama RX-7 and the Fury/Scott '84 Bathurst Bluebird. There are plenty of cars that have been forgotten and I guess it all comes down to profitability as it's no good making a car that won't sell.
How about the Johnson/Perkins Mustang from '85, any of the 635 csi BMW's from the early to mid '80's - Charlie O'Brien's Bob Jane or the JPS, Kevin Bartlett's Starion? Larry's '86 Enzed Commodore?
Even Aussie Formula 1 cars in 1/18 like Alan Jones 1980 Williams F1 or any of the cars that Schuppan or Perkins raced in? Do we have to only request ATCC, Group A, Group C or V8 Supercars all the time?

[ViperSRT10]

Here's some of Larry's cars that I'd like to see, the Le Mans 88 entry of Larry Perkins / Kevin Cogan / Derek Daly which has been done as a slot car, but in 1/18? This car finished 4th overall that year, well worth a spot in our collections surely?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/wsc-lemans-88.jpg

The slot car version

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/sit_silkcutjaguarxjr9_22.jpg

or any of these Formula 1 cars of Larry's

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/f1-kyalami-77.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/f1-fuji-76.jpg

Anybody agree, there's a lot of history we're missing....

[malscar]

Here's some of Larry's cars that I'd like to see, the Le Mans 88 entry of Larry Perkins / Kevin Cogan / Derek Daly which has been done as a slot car, but in 1/18? This car finished 4th overall that year, well worth a spot in our collections surely?

Also in 1/43 by HPI and IXO and as a kit in 1/43 and 1/24

[ViperSRT10]

I'd like to see it made by Biante in 1/18 alongside the Brock / Perkins Bob Jane 84 contender, I know it's been made by other manufacturers, but not in 1/18 :)

[malscar]

Do a code 3

http://www.exoto.com/s/1/ProductDetails.aspx?Langu age=en&CategoryId=236&ProductId=1680

[ViperSRT10]

Never considered that, only problem is the Exoto model looks too good to butcher :)

what about a 1/18 version of Jones' FW07 as pictured here at Hockenheim in 1979?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/Hockenheim1979AJones.jpg

[david5]

Never considered that, only problem is the Exoto model looks too good to butcher :)

what about a 1/18 version of Jones' FW07 as pictured here at Hockenheim in 1979?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/Hockenheim1979AJones.jpg

Complete with Bin Laden construction sponsorship.:(

[ViperSRT10]

Or even the Peter Williamson Celica.....anyone remember them going at this one in the pits at Bathurst with the axe??? 1/18 would be excellent!

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/WilliamsonCelica.jpg

[AmonFan]

Or even the Peter Williamson Celica.....anyone remember them going at this one in the pits at Bathurst with the axe??? 1/18 would be excellent!

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h99/LionKing_05/ Artwork/WilliamsonCelica.jpg

Id prefer a John McCormack built, Bruce Gowans driven version ;)

[smythy17]

i am hanging for a vc brock road car in white.please please please
It'd go good for a code 3 Race of champions car... ie Johnson No.3:D

[viking]

Speaking of Johnson cars, I'm hanging out for the 94Bathurst winner, after all there is a pretty big gap in Australian Fords between XE and AU.

[smythy17]

Speaking of Johnson cars, I'm hanging out for the 94Bathurst winner, after all there is a pretty big gap in Australian Fords between XE and AU.

Hell yeah.. It really looks like it would make a great model. Any idea when it will be out?

[k1w1taxi]

Given the upcoming Bizarre Rx 3 Rally car and ebbro's RX3 road car how about the Don Holland class winning Mazdas

Cheers
Lee

[brchi17]

Speaking of Johnson cars, I'm hanging out for the 94Bathurst winner, after all there is a pretty big gap in Australian Fords between XE and AU.

oh yeah, I can't wait to see this mighty beast, I would if Biante could post some images of how this model is progressing seeing we all know it's currently in production ???

Also speaking of Dick Johnson cars, it would be great to see a little more variety in what Biante release in this series as compared to the Brock collection it seems that ole Dick has nearly been forgotten.

[smythy17]

yeah that'd be cool.. like the EH or the old French/Skelton XA that he drove as a sports sedan or the white,black or GREEN mustangs... Come on Biante!!!

[Kashmir]

Yep the DJR Mustangs are a must!!:cool:

[Pug205]

I remember reading late last year in a Diecast Mag an interview with someone at Biante (cannot recall the name now) and they first EB will be the John Bowe 1993 car and prototype shots would appear in the first half of 09.

Something like that anyway, hope the 94 winner is sometime next year at latest!

Put me down for ANY DJR Mustangs. If Biante can tool a Brock 01, a Mustang should be a no brainer with the possible repaints.

[Kashmir]

Well GMP have a mold for the mid 80's Mustangs so Biante could maybe borrow one of those molds.

[SDK]

I'm hearing (including from this site) that Auto Art are doing a couple of 1985 Jags which would then mean that Biante can do a 1:18 1985 Bathurst Winner. Great.
No rush but nice to know that it will be done at some stage is the 1986 Volvo (ATCC Winner). I would have thought that a Volvo would have been done by Auto Art by now?
And yeh as above, I'd certainly be up for a Johnson Mustang. Unfortunately I think that the commercial options available to Biante for several cars from the one mould are pretty limited. There were also big variations between the 1985 & 1986 models.

[pitcrew]

Cars from the 50's and 60's, especially EH's,
you can do iiiiiit, please :D
cheers

[ViperSRT10]

Is that the Robbie Francevic Volvo you're referring to? If that one is done then we should get the 1979 Volvo with road tyres that Moff was complaing about at Bathurst as well.
The Johnson Mustang was released along with the JPS 635csi in the late 80's. I think from memory they were 1/24 scale and wood base mounted. I haven't seen one in a long time but I'm sure evilbay might reveal one every so often???

[SDK]

Yes Viper it is the Robbie Francevic Volvo, but no thanks on the thing that raced in 1979. Does anyone know of Auto Art perhaps did this car as raced in Europe at the same time? (The 1986 car that is)
I'm after 1:18 for the Mustang, but prepared to wait. Guess they've got a few of the Faclons to do from the mid 1990's first, but all in good time.

[david5]

Is that the Robbie Francevic Volvo you're referring to? If that one is done then we should get the 1979 Volvo with road tyres that Moff was complaing about at Bathurst as well.
The Johnson Mustang was released along with the JPS 635csi in the late 80's. I think from memory they were 1/24 scale and wood base mounted. I haven't seen one in a long time but I'm sure evilbay might reveal one every so often???

The Volvo was a 242GT from memory & was driven by Spencer Martin & David McKay. Had SVM number plates as in Scuderia Veloce Motors. They finished which is more than Moff can claim that year.

The 1/24 Stangs & Bimmers you refer to were done by Auscar Models based at the Birdwood motoring museum. Converted from Bburago models with parts he made himself. I have the BMW & would like the Mustang if anyone has one theyd like to part with.

David

[Shawn S]

I'd like to see some more ATCC winners in 1:43 like;
Beechey's 65 Mustang
Geoghegan's Mustangs from 66-69
Dick Johnson's 88 and 89 Sierras and maybe even a 1:43 1988 DJR twinset
As far as 1:43 Ford non-supercar ATCC winners go, the Biante 1984 Johnson XE is the only quality model available. Now that's a big gap in my collection that needs filling.

[Pug205]

The 1/24 Stangs & Bimmers you refer to were done by Auscar Models based at the Birdwood motoring museum. Converted from Bburago models with parts he made himself. I have the BMW & would like the Mustang if anyone has one theyd like to part with.
David

There had been a Mustang at Model Cars Too until just recently. Will keep an eye out for you though David.

I will take a Bathurst 1985 Mustang in 1:18 as I have said before many many times :D

[ViperSRT10]

Does anybody remember the white Mustang #71 that Johnson used in practice for Bathurst 85 or for what purpose this car was entered?

[Pug205]

Was Bathurst 1984 Viper.

It was his first Mustang fresh off the boat. Used it only as a back up in practice at Bathurst in case something happened to his Falcon (like it did in 1983). Even qualified it too from memory before withdrawing the car.

[SDK]

Does anybody remember the white Mustang #71 that Johnson used in practice for Bathurst 85 or for what purpose this car was entered?

Yeh was 1984. They did plenty of laps in this car, I guess as some solid testing in readiness for 1985.
Would have taken a real disaster for DJ to start this car as obviously going for the race win glory in the Falcon, which was obviously a well sorted good car in 1984, & suited to the mount.
History will tell us, did not work out that way though, & no tears here..

[malscar]

The 1/24 Stangs & Bimmers you refer to were done by Auscar Models based at the Birdwood motoring museum. Converted from Bburago models with parts he made himself. I have the BMW & would like the Mustang if anyone has one theyd like to part with.

David

Not great quality though being a Bburago. Have a JPS version and a SPA see through version of the BMW.

Saw a Mustang on evilbay about 6 months ago, go for a stupid price considering it was missing the front spoiler.

[monarocveightz]

Is that the Robbie Francevic Volvo you're referring to? If that one is done then we should get the 1979 Volvo with road tyres that Moff was complaing about at Bathurst as well.
The Johnson Mustang was released along with the JPS 635csi in the late 80's. I think from memory they were 1/24 scale and wood base mounted. I haven't seen one in a long time but I'm sure evilbay might reveal one every so often???


Biante did a version of Richards JPS 635CSi Bimmer about 2 years ago:) (in 1:18 that is..)

[SDK]

Been looking at the 1:18 XD/XE Falcons. Now by my calcs Biante have done 8 Johnson Falcons, 1 for Moffat & 1 for Masterton. I'm really after a little bit more diversity here. I'd be up for the Morris 1982 Oran Park AEC Winner and the 1981 Morris/Fitz Bathurst Runner up.

There were also a number of great looking second tier cars that could also be done down the track in low numbers.

As most of the moulds for these cars have been done already & I believe that Morris is on-side with Biante hopefully we could see at least one of these in 2009?

[Donny05]

A 1:18 1999 Brock / Brock Targa Tasmania LJ GTR XU1 Torana would be nice. how about it Rich? The tooling is there, just need some purple paint and decals :D

[david5]

Been looking at the 1:18 XD/XE Falcons. Now by my calcs Biante have done 8 Johnson Falcons, 1 for Moffat & 1 for Masterton. I'm really after a little bit more diversity here. I'd be up for the Morris 1982 Oran Park AEC Winner and the 1981 Morris/Fitz Bathurst Runner up.

There were also a number of great looking second tier cars that could also be done down the track in low numbers.

As most of the moulds for these cars have been done already & I believe that Morris is on-side with Biante hopefully we could see at least one of these in 2009?

Not to mention a Carter John Sands jobbie, Alf Grant Tru Blu, Brian Callaghan,Army Reserve etc.

[Pug205]

The Army reserve car would make a very striking model indeed. Would be popular just based on the livery alone.

[AmonFan]

Not to mention a Carter John Sands jobbie, Alf Grant Tru Blu, Brian Callaghan,Army Reserve etc.

and Ray Allford, Frank Saracino, Adrian Martin and the Rock car that actually completed a Great Race ;) :p

XD's that raced in OZ in Group C off the top of my head
Johnson 1st car...... to John Donnelly top 10 81 bathurst?
Johnson 2nd car...... to Alf Grant
Willmington first car.... to Adrian Martin (Tas)
Willmington
Bill O'Brien (shared car with Morris for 1980 Bathurst, leased by Morris for selected ATCC races 81)
Bob Morris
Allan Moffat reportedly to Russell Skaife then to John English
Murray Carter
Ray Allford
Jim Keogh
Rusty French
Brian Callaghan
Bob Muir
Frank Saracino
Joe Moore

I reckon i've missed some

[david5]

and Ray Allford, Frank Saracino, Adrian Martin and the Rock car that actually completed a Great Race ;) :p

XD's that raced in OZ in Group C off the top of my head
Johnson 1st car...... to John Donnelly top 10 81 bathurst?
Johnson 2nd car...... to Alf Grant
Willmington first car.... to Adrian Martin (Tas)
Willmington
Bill O'Brien (shared car with Morris for 1980 Bathurst, leased by Morris for selected ATCC races 81)
Bob Morris
Allan Moffat reportedly to Russell Skaife then to John English
Murray Carter
Ray Allford
Jim Keogh
Rusty French
Brian Callaghan
Bob Muir
Frank Saracino
Joe Moore

I reckon i've missed some

Mike Imrie ?

[AmonFan]

Mike Imrie ?

Yep thats one... I was thinking white car and Chev Monza but do you think i could think of his name, lol..........

[david5]

Yep thats one... I was thinking white car and Chev Monza but do you think i could think of his name, lol..........

Its for sale too...we can go halves, you buy it & Ill pay you back later ;)

[AmonFan]

Its for sale too...we can go halves, you buy it & Ill pay you back later ;)

If its under $5000 id be interested, i could'nt justify paying anymore for something that is slower than my Rotax around Winton ;)

[malscar]

If its under $5000 id be interested, i could'nt justify paying anymore for something that is slower than my Rotax around Winton ;)

Is that because of the car or the driver?

[AmonFan]

Is that because of the car or the driver?

Mal, im not sure any Group C cars would get around there as quick as a Rotax.... Lap Record for Rotax at Winton short and Long are 1m01.9 and 1m31.5 respectively..........

In race trim the Rotax's are doing close enough to the same times as Stubber and Seto (in Nissan) at Oran Park GP track....

[david5]

If its under $5000 id be interested, i could'nt justify paying anymore for something that is slower than my Rotax around Winton ;)

Ahh but what about the noise. :rolleyes:

[AmonFan]

Ahh but what about the noise. :rolleyes:

I use a mp3 player when running the rotax with the BRM noise playing :p

[david5]

I use a mp3 player when running the rotax with the BRM noise playing :p

Does BRM = Bondys Racing Mouse ? :p

[AmonFan]

Does BRM = Bondys Racing Mouse ? :p

LOL ya nut.....

As for the XD's i wonder if a white version would be of interest?

[SDK]

Came up on another thread but do Classis have the "rights" to do the Bartlett Camaros or could Biante do them?

Anybody have any intel on when we might be blessed with one of these?

Interesting that as far as I can recall, there has only been 2 "Bartlett" Touring Cars.

[ViperSRT10]

Are you referring to the 1985 Mitsubishi Starion as well as the Camaro?

[david5]

With the Bowdens owning the KB Camaro & CC having an agreement to do the Bowdens cars (apparently, Nedwob ?) Id say CC will do it.

Would be an interesting car to do as its a bitsa model yearwise.

David

[AmonFan]

With the Bowdens owning the KB Camaro & CC having an agreement to do the Bowdens cars (apparently, Nedwob ?) Id say CC will do it.

Would be an interesting car to do as its a bitsa model yearwise.

David

Could do a few versions

Bartlett Channel 9
Bartlett #66 Idaps People
Bartlett 85 Rally Sprint version
Tindall/Tesoriero leased off Bartlett hit Walkie up the rear 84 version :p
Plus a rollover diorama
Colin Bond Amscar version

[Kashmir]

Channel 9 Camaro,yes please:cool:

[SDK]

Yeh there were a few more being the BBQ's Gallore pair plus a Yellow Dickson one I think.

That I guess answers it though david5.

I still don't really understand all this licensing stuff though. I would love to understand more. Bowden obviously does not own the 9 Sports logo, nor Bartlett's name. He also does not own Chev (going cheap though). Yes he might own the car now, yet I can't see how he could determine who produces it as a model. Sure he could not allow one of the manufacturers access to measure it up, but that would be it.

I'd assume that when Bowden or whoever buys one of these classics, they buy the car & not every god given right that may come with it.

[Roadways]

The Grice/Harrington 84 VK has looks great i reckon, its been done before but ive never come across a 1:18 model.

[jager]

Now that the 1:18 Autoart 1980 Alfa GTV has been released (http://www.biante.com.au/product_19958.htm), the base is there for a whole range of 1977 - 1985 Alfa GTV's from Bathurst and the ATCC that Biante could be released.

Being realistic I don't think there is enough interest for most of them to be commercially viable, with the possible exception of the Bond's 1985 "IGNIS" GTV6. Is there enough interest here for the Bathurst version ? :

http://www.autopics.com.au/images/86739.jpg

Biante wouldn't sell thousands, but if they are prepared to do 1,008 pieces of the GIO Skyline perhaps they'd do 1,000 or so of the above.

Edit : I should add that Bond finished 6th in the ATCC Championship with this car in 1985 (including two 4th placed finishes towards the end of the season), so while it might not have been a V8 it was still very competitive.

[AmonFan]

3 Camaro Group C cars that raced between 79 and 84
1 for Kev Bartlett raced also by Tesoriero and Tindall Bathurst 84
2 for Ron Dickson raced in Avco Finance, BBQ Galore colours to name a few... Alan Jones having a run along with Graham Moore to name a few..... As well as American's like Sam Posey and Dick Barbour....
Both Ron Dickson cars eventually sold to the late Mike Burgmann, 1 car appearing in Blue and Silver.... wrecked at Oran Park 83 ATCC round....
Other car purchased from Dicko and ran with Longhurst @ Bathurst 83 in Yellow with i think Dreamworld? sponsorship.....
Sold to Bryan Thomson and ran with John Mann in 84 Edition of the Great Race....

[jager]

Oops....before I'm correct the #75 Alfa was from Bathurst in 1986 not 1985, where the car was a DNF.

Here's the 1985 car, where it finished 8th at Bathurst, 5 laps down on the leaders.

http://www.gtv6-156gta.be/GTV6Bathust1985nr47.jpg

The 1985 car was more successful, the 1986 car looked more striking. If Biante were going to produce one, which one should it be ?

[AmonFan]

Oops....before I'm correct the #75 Alfa was from Bathurst in 1986 not 1985, where the car was a DNF.

Here's the 1985 car, where it finished 8th at Bathurst, 5 laps down on the leaders.

http://www.gtv6-156gta.be/GTV6Bathust1985nr47.jpg

The 1985 car was more successful, the 1986 car looked more striking. If Biante were going to produce one, which one should it be ?

I stand corrected but the Toy Shop version with Gricey driving @ Oran Park or have i screwed that up totally, lol... 1985 Enduro round? It was white... very nice looking car.....

[jager]

I stand corrected but the Toy Shop version with Gricey driving @ Oran Park or have i screwed that up totally, lol... 1985 Enduro round? It was white... very nice looking car.....

According to a post on the Ten-Tenth forum it was the same car :

- Built 1984 as a Group E Production racer for Colin Bond
- Converted to Group A for Bathurst 84, and used by Bond in the 1985 ATCC (in yellow livery)
- Sold to Sydney exotic car specialists 'The Toy Shop' prior to the end of the 1985 ATCC (in plain white livery). Used by Greg Hansford at the Oran Park ATCC finale, then driven by Allan Grice a few weeks later at the first Endurance Series race, the "Better Brakes 300" at Amaroo Park.
- Bond then borrowed the car back for the Adelaide AGP support race at the end of 1985, as the Luigi car had been written off the weekend before at Surfers.
- Reappeared as Network Alfa's 2nd car for Bathurst 86, (in blue 'Pye' colours) for car owner Warwick Rooklyn and Lucio Cesario.

[AmonFan]

According to a post on the Ten-Tenth forum it was the same car :

- Built 1984 as a Group E Production racer for Colin Bond
- Converted to Group A for Bathurst 84, and used by Bond in the 1985 ATCC (in yellow livery)
- Sold to Sydney exotic car specialists 'The Toy Shop' prior to the end of the 1985 ATCC (in plain white livery). Used by Greg Hansford at the Oran Park ATCC finale, then driven by Allan Grice a few weeks later at the first Endurance Series race, the "Better Brakes 300" at Amaroo Park.
- Bond then borrowed the car back for the Adelaide AGP support race at the end of 1985, as the Luigi car had been written off the weekend before at Surfers.
- Reappeared as Network Alfa's 2nd car for Bathurst 86, (in blue 'Pye' colours) for car owner Warwick Rooklyn and Lucio Cesario.

Good stuff Jager,

Only reason i mentioned it as i would think perhaps a Gricey version may be a little more of interest.....

[david5]

Now that the 1:18 Autoart 1980 Alfa GTV has been released (http://www.biante.com.au/product_19958.htm), the base is there for a whole range of 1977 - 1985 Alfa GTV's from Bathurst and the ATCC that Biante could be released.

Being realistic I don't think there is enough interest for most of them to be commercially viable, with the possible exception of the Bond's 1985 "IGNIS" GTV6. Is there enough interest here for the Bathurst version ? :

http://www.autopics.com.au/images/86739.jpg

Biante wouldn't sell thousands, but if they are prepared to do 1,008 pieces of the GIO Skyline perhaps they'd do 1,000 or so of the above.

Edit : I should add that Bond finished 6th in the ATCC Championship with this car in 1985 (including two 4th placed finishes towards the end of the season), so while it might not have been a V8 it was still very competitive.

Was thinking the same thing when I saw it in the newsletter this morning.

[david5]

Good stuff Jager,

Only reason i mentioned it as i would think perhaps a Gricey version may be a little more of interest.....

Red & Black Dulux car. Frank porter ?

[Bully]

HDT VH GRP3 in red,then white
Any sports sedans,
Zaps Rat the fastest steel lid in the world,
HDT VC in black
HDT VL GRP3 SIGNATURE SERIES in white of course,
HDT VL DIRECTOR in red with red momo's,
HDT VK DIRECTOR not sure which colour yet maybe black,
HDT MAGNUM in bronze goldy colour
:)

[smythy17]

LOL ya nut.....

As for the XD's i wonder if a white version would be of interest?

Absolutely. I really hope that biante do cleanskins of these..

The Army reserve car would make a very striking model indeed. Would be popular just based on the livery alone.

I reckon that biante would almost have to get a crack at this one Pleeeease. Bearing in mind that it would be a very time consuming not to mention expensive exercise to paint this livery. After seeing the job cc did on the red dust i'd hate to see the same happen to such an intriguing car. When you think about it each colour or even each blotch would have to nearly be done singularly just to get it looking authentic which means each model would be more or less a work of art in itself. I dare say we'll be waiting for the economy to recover a little before they try this one.. Sooooo can't wait.

[AmonFan]

Red & Black Dulux car. Frank porter ?

Frank Porter's was one of the Bond cars was'nt it? Plumes Ice Cream then to Hugh Harrison.......

Dulux was Ray Gulson.... Although i think Porter co drove with him at some stage....

[malscar]

look in the old race photos.

Also the Greg Carr rally version.

[david5]

Frank Porter's was one of the Bond cars was'nt it? Plumes Ice Cream then to Hugh Harrison.......

Dulux was Ray Gulson.... Although i think Porter co drove with him at some stage....

Couldnt remember. Bit off colour today so I couldnt be stuffed looking it up. Or JF in the old Tru Blu, maybe tomorrow:p

[david5]

look in the old race photos.

Also the Greg Carr rally version.

Love to see the FIAT & the Lancia......Escort/s....hmm Greg Carr collection ?

[malscar]

Would prefer the Datsuns before the Lancia.

[malscar]

Ray Gulson also ran Alfas a long time before Bondy

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m225/malscar/09 1-Copy2.jpg

[AmonFan]

Ray Gulson also ran Alfas a long time before Bondy

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m225/malscar/09 1-Copy2.jpg

Why is my name mentioned ;), i never brought up the cars i was merely answering a question :p

As for Ray, don't forget the Alfasud.........

[jager]

Ray Gulson also ran Alfas a long time before Bondy

Sure, and you can go back another 15 years before that to the various 105 series GTA coupes (or even the 105 series sedans) that did so well at the Sandown 6 hour races in the mid 1960's as well :

http://www.autopics.com.au/images/66042.jpg

Minichamps and AutoArt have the basic moulds for both, but if Biante were only going to produce one Australian Alfa Romeo I figured the '85 - '86 Bond GTV6 was the one that would be most likely to sell in an economic quantity.

[malscar]

Did not think you ever ran a Alfa:p

[jager]

Did not think you ever ran a Alfa:p

My daily drive :

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/Jager1994/A lfa2.jpg

[david5]

Nice Jaeger. Drove a mates hotted up Super Guilia(Guilia Super ?) from PI to Greensborough once, great fun.

[Andrew]

My daily drive :

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/Jager1994/A lfa2.jpg

That is beautiful. Simple but classic lines, and nice proportion. Elegant, dainty and sporty.

And yet for some reason I thought you drove a BMW!

[AmonFan]

I think this would be the best selling Aussie Alfa model ;)
http://www.autopics.com.au/images/81013.jpg

[wazza002]

I will be happy with what turns up at the moment,;) But if there was one i'm still thinking on it :rolleyes::D

[SDK]

By my calcs, the GIO Nissan is only the second Sandown enduro release. Amazing really. The hall of fame is:

1968 Tony Roberts/Bob Watson Monaro 327GTS
1969 Allan Moffat/John French Ford Falcon GTHO
1970 Allan Moffat Falcon GTHO Phs2
1971 Colin Bond Holden Torana XU-1
1972 John Goss Ford Falcon GTHO Ps3
1973 Peter Brock Holden Torana XU-1
1974 Allan Moffat Ford Falcon XBGT
1975 Peter Brock Torana SLR5000
1976 Peter Brock Holden Torana L34
1977 Peter Brock Holden Torana A9X
1978 Peter Brock Holden Torana A9X
1979 Peter Brock Holden Torana A9X
1980 Peter Brock Holden Commodore VC
1981 Peter Brock Holden Commodore VC
1982 Allan Moffat Mazda RX7PP
1983 Allan Moffat Mazda RX7PP
1984 Peter Brock/Larry Perkins Holden Commodore VK
1985 Jim Richards/Tony Longhurst BMW 635 Csi
1986 George Fury/Glenn Seton Nissan Skyline DR30
1987 George Fury/Terry Shiel Nissan Skyline DR31
1988 Alan Moffat/Gregg Hansford Ford Sierra RS500
1989 Jim Richards/Mark Skaife Nissan Skyline HR31
1990 Glenn Seton/George Fury Ford Sierra RS500
1991 Mark Gibbs/Rohan Onslow Nissan GTR Turbo
1992 Perkins/Harrington Holden Commodore VL
1993 Geoff Brabham/David Parsons Ford Falcon EB
1994 Dick Johnson/John Bowe Ford Falcon EB
1995 Dick Johnson/John Bowe Ford Falcon EF
1996 Craig Lowndes/Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VR
1997 Craig Lowndes/Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VS
1998 Larry Perkins/Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VT
2003 Mark Skaife/Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY
2004 Marcos Ambrose/Greg Ritter Ford Falcon BA
2005 Craig Lowndes/Yvan Muller Ford Falcon BA
2006 Bright/Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA

From the list above, I'm sure that there would be plenty of agreement for a heap of the above to be made in an orderly fashion. Some great models to come out of the above.

[Tumbo]

the 2006 bright/winterbottom BA was done by CC

[malscar]

My daily drive :




Sorry jager, that was aimed at Laz.

[AmonFan]

Sorry jager, that was aimed at Laz.

I did race a Alfasud once on acres in a rally sprint some mates organised... I won ;) from some sports Sedan guys running Lasers and Honda Civics ;)

[the_goldie]

Hmmm I would buy the sandown winners in 1/43, no room for all those in 1/18.

[ViperSRT10]

Do we have to have a whole list of want's for Sandown? What about Clipsal 500 or Phillip Island Winners? Not saying that I want either of these variations, just that it can really get out of hand when you think about it.

[SDK]

Guys, Is it confirmed that the Bright/Winterbottom Sandown winner was done? I know the 2006 Bright "season car" was done.

As far as model collecting getting out of hand, to late for me but I'm not complaining. There are nearly 40 cars above & I certainly would not buy them all, particularly when they are only such a slight variation to an existing Bathurst winner, ATCC winner (ie 1983 Moff RX7, 1984 VK, 1996 HRT) etc.

Personal preference, but I would rather have the 1981 Brock Sandown winner vs. 1981 Brock Bathurst 21st place. Same also applies to the 1995 DJR car. I know guys would prefer it the other way & that's fine.

[El Cheapo]

Guys, Is it confirmed that the Bright/Winterbottom Sandown winner was done? I know the 2006 Bright "season car" was done.

Yes it was made. Definitely on my list of wants :)

[singer]

That is beautiful. Simple but classic lines, and nice proportion. Elegant, dainty and sporty.

And yet for some reason I thought you drove a BMW!

That is 1 beautiful 105:cool:

[SDK]

Screaming for the VN Group A Commodore in both race n road liveries.

Plenty of model options with this one Biante.

Even in road guise I believe that there are 3 colours that could be produced without the problems that some collectors have with the re release of the VK Group A.

Thanks & hope it appears on the site soon.

[spiderken17]

I would love some Group C and Group A Holdens that aren't HDT or HRT cars. Something different so the Holdens in my collection have a bit of variety.

[Prozac32]

What happened to the 94 Brock/Mezera VP? last i saw it was development approved then it vanished.

[spiderken17]

What happened to the 94 Brock/Mezera VP? last i saw it was development approved then it vanished.

yeah, i noticed that too.

[Kashmir]

What happened to the 94 Brock/Mezera VP? last i saw it was development approved then it vanished.

I noticed that,certainly hope they're still making it.

[smokey_dj]

so do i
and yes defnaitely vn ss group A rd version in white or red

and atlas grey ss rd version plus race versions mmmmmmm

[SDK]

From 1994 I'd actually prefer Brock Eastern Creek round winner plus the Lowndes/Jones Bathurst car (as far as HRT goes).

[Numark83]

With a realm of recent Richards releases ;), what about the 1987 ATCC winner? Minichamps already has a good mould of the E30 M3. They could also make Brock's '88, and Longhurst's '91, plus plain colours if they wish.

While we're on the topic of 90s BMWs, what about a 1/43 diorama of the '94 Longhurst vs Morris stoush?

[Brock 05]

With a realm of recent Richards releases ;), what about the 1987 ATCC winner? Minichamps already has a good mould of the E30 M3. They could also make Brock's '88, and Longhurst's '91, plus plain colours if they wish.

While we're on the topic of 90s BMWs, what about a 1/43 diorama of the '94 Longhurst vs Morris stoush?

Sounds good to me, fill in some of those empty ATCC Winner spots. ;)

[BILLFORD1]

I have a very simple request.....most of the missing XB/XCs please.....John Goss, Murray Carter, DJ 77XB, Bill O'Brien, Ron Dickson, Bondy etc.... We've had about 5 Fords produced in last 3 years....ZZZZzzzzzzz.....Thanks in advance. :D

[edy]

How about some of Dick's Mustangs of the 1980's!

[pez]

Here's a few i'd like to see.

1986/87 Perkins ENZED VK
1988 Perkins SV VL
1990 Perkins VL
1987 Grice Bob Jane T-mart VL

[My Element]

Brock/Perkins UCD Finance SS Group A Commodore from the Wellington Street race in 85 would be nice to have in 1/18

[Pug205]

1984 Nissan Bluebird
1985 DJR Mustang
1985/1986 Volvo 240T
1987 PJ Nissan Skyline
1987 JPS BMW M3
1990 Nissan Skyline R31
1992 B&H BMW M3
1995 John Bowe EF Falcon

[k1w1taxi]

Here's a few i'd like to see.

1986/87 Perkins ENZED VK
1988 Perkins SV VL
1990 Perkins VL
1987 Grice Bob Jane T-mart VL

Sorry Pez but Larry has an exclusive with CC so there will not be any of his cars from Biante in the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

Cheers
Lee

[Andrew]

1984 Nissan Bluebird
1985 DJR Mustang
1985/1986 Volvo 240T
1987 PJ Nissan Skyline
1987 JPS BMW M3
1990 Nissan Skyline R31
1992 B&H BMW M3
1995 John Bowe EF Falcon

Absolute GOLD!!!!!

[Jace]

Sorry Pez but Larry has an exclusive with CC so there will not be any of his cars from Biante in the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

Cheers
Lee

Hopefully CC will make some more of Larry's old cars in the future.

[fatty]

I posted this in the models id like see made thread but how about a Morris Breville/Craven Mild VB Commodore from 1980. Or a Wilmington XD Falcon from 1980 still with the aerial on the front gaurd

[fatty]

Sorry Pez but Larry has an exclusive with CC so there will not be any of his cars from Biante in the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

Cheers
LeeCould Biante still make it without any mention of Larry's name but call it a ATCC entrant. CC get around it this way with their Bathurst winners.

[david5]

I posted this in the models id like see made thread but how about a Morris Breville/Craven Mild VB Commodore from 1980. Or a Wilmington XD Falcon from 1980 still with the aerial on the front gaurd

Or a Willmington EB with a carbie and 5 stud wheels on the front & centre nut on the rear. And an XJ-S with home made fuel injection he made from a photo of TWRs.

[brchi17]

Could Biante still make it without any mention of Larry's name but call it a ATCC entrant. CC get around it this way with their Bathurst winners.

I doubt that they would as they've got a little more class and respect for the drivers than to rip them off like that ;)

[SDK]

Think between Biante & CC there have been plenty of XW/XY GTHO’s over the last couple of years along with a number of Toranas. Been some time since the last Monaro touring car.
I’m looking for 1:18’s of:

1968 HK Bathurst Monaro Palmer/West 2nd Place
1968 HK Bathurst Monaro Roberts/Watson 3rd Place

Tooling in place. I think Biante have HDT on side? Trax in fact released the HDT model in 1:43 15 years ago or so, yet after a bigger one.

[mrmavx]

here's my 2 cents worth on what i would like to see made, and they are all bathurst cars and in no particular order

bluebird turbo furys pole 1984
channel 9 camaro 1992
jaguar 85 winner
vh commodore grices 100mph lap
vb commodore stockton gold bullion exchange (would really like to see this one)
mustang grp a 1985 dick johnson
alfa gtv 6 grp a 1985 bond hansford
xd ford morris fitzpatrick 1981
vn grp a hrt 1991
bmw m3 peter brock
vp commodore hrt, brock and perkins 1993 cars
plus the already announced fords of the 93 -98 era


cheers all mrmavx

[Willofan]

Still dragging up old threads.........

I would like to see some of the famous Australian Toyota Celica's

Peter Williamson - 1978 RA23 yellow Celica coupe - the axe car
Doug Clark - 1978 RA23 red/white Celica coupe
Graeme Bailey - 1979 RA23 yellow/white Celica coupe - 1st of the Chickedee
Peter Williamson - 1979 RA40 yellow Celica coupe - the first aussie Racecam
Graeme Bailey - 1979 RA40 white Celica coupe - 2nd Chickadee
Wally Scott - 1979 RA40 black Celica liftback
Doug Clark - 1980 RA40 sports sedan
Peter Williamson - 1980/81 RA40 Green Celica coupe
Peter Williamson - 1981 RA40 orange Celica coupe
Wally Scott - 1982 RA40 black Celica lift back
Graeme Bailey - 1982 RA40 white Celica coupe - last Chickadee Celica
There were plenty of Rally Celica's too.......

Just to name a few

[SS Mick]

I would like to see the 1975 BathurstGoss/Richards XB GT and 1976 Bathurst Brabham/Moss L34 Torana in all 3 scales :)

[SDK]

VN Commodores & as per a previous post, still after another couple of HK Bathurst Monaros

[David Paterson]

I'd love to see some Group A Corollas, they completely dominated the Group A 1600cc class.

[david5]

I'd love to see some Group A Corollas, they completely dominated the Group A 1600cc class.

Says the completely unbiased owner of one :rolleyes: :p

[malscar]

Let me see, in the 1600cc class there were , ummm 1 factory team. This would have been, ummm, the Toyotas. yep, can see why they dominated. :rolleyes:

And David, I have a soft spot for the Sprinter, but think the facts need to be told in full. lol

[AmonFan]

Let me see, in the 1600cc class there were , ummm 1 factory team. This would have been, ummm, the Toyotas. yep, can see why they dominated. :rolleyes:

And David, I have a soft spot for the Sprinter, but think the facts need to be told in full. lol

Oh Cmon Mal, thats harsh they had strong oppostion from John and Daryl in the Gemini's :p and what was the blokes name in the ex Willo Celica? Someone Freeman? With a bit of development and maybe with Robbie at the wheel i reckon Mike Minear's Volvo 360 GLT may have been a goer ;)... I would have like to have seen the little Fiat Uno have more racing.... Opps i forgot Martin Powers Dolomite and Ken Harrison's Escort...

[David Paterson]

Oh Cmon Mal, thats harsh they had strong oppostion from John and Daryl in the Gemini's :p and what was the blokes name in the ex Willo Celica? Someone Freeman? With a bit of development and maybe with Robbie at the wheel i reckon Mike Minear's Volvo 360 GLT may have been a goer ;)... I would have like to have seen the little Fiat Uno have more racing.... Opps i forgot Martin Powers Dolomite and Ken Harrison's Escort...

Don't forget Andrew Bagnall's Mk 3 Escort. :)

[AmonFan]

Don't forget Andrew Bagnall's Mk 3 Escort. :)

I liked the look of that :) it probably should have gone a bit quicker....

[malscar]

nah, Ford never really developed it in the UK.

Laz, was the Volvo under 1600cc?

[Macdee]

Yer give the little guys ago. Let's see some Gemini's. There's probably quite a large following for them.

[AmonFan]

nah, Ford never really developed it in the UK.

Laz, was the Volvo under 1600cc?

Nah probably 2 litre, as per Gemini's, Doli etc

[SS Commodore]

I would really like to see the 3 Ford Cortina's that won Bathurst in 63, 64 and 65 produced in 1/18 scale.