stimulus Money

[zoomster]

Hi all how many of you Aussies going to use your money on models,or buy one top line $900 + model,may been good time to get shelves,finish off your display cabinet.

[smokey_dj]

im already paying off my pre orders that have just been released with mine and looking or something special

[pitcrew]

I'll put it to future models that I'll be getting.
Thanks K Rudd. :D

[inter]

I am paying bills:confused:

[lachlan]

I was going to put it towards a printer but my clutch just craped itself so...

[Tumbo]

thanks to Mr Rudd I currently have 4 1/18s waiting at the Post Office :D!

[minh427]

Using for car insurance.

[spolyhronidis]

Credit card bill.

[Chev_350]

Credit card bill.

ditto

[Nate07]

Saving it! :D

Even though thats not what its for.

[spoonster05]

Mine will go on supporting my 'not so local' but friendly model car dealer..... :p

[Skaife fan]

Saving it! :D

Even though thats not what its for.
Same here. :)

[sleepy]

Most of mine went on bunkering down ready for the unemployment line, paying off the credit card a new dvd recorder (no 6) and the rest will go towards landscaping materials for a project i have.

[fordmad17]

bills bills and more bills

[HRT1]

credit card for my recent model spending spree....and the bahrain tour package i have just paid for....massive credit card bill & $900 will put a good dent in it

[tigerpete]

new set of tyres for me http://forums.biante.com.au/attachment.php?attachm entid=6301&d=1238904949

[barnart]

More to the point how are we going to pay all the K Rudd money back???

[Leigh]

More to the point how are we going to pay all the K Rudd money back???

Arguably it is the lack of government debt (around the world) that has contributed to part of the collapse...

Governments can borrow money on better terms at lower percentage rates than organisations or individuals. So all we have done over the last 20 years is transfer the debt from government to the private sector through PPP's and to individuals through "user pays" etc, costing us all more in the long term through higher interest rates and bank fees.

All Australia (and most other countries) are doing is readjusting the balance to where it should be. Start with public packages to reduce individual debt and encourage spending, and follow up with some large infrastructure expenditures that will earn us money in the long run.

Governments NOT having debt is an illogical aspiration!

[malscar]

But Governments having debt is a logical aspiration?:confused:

Remember we will be paying this back by way of higher taxes on everything from personal to things we buy. The old robbing Peter to pay Paul. In the end, this stimulus package is not going to stop the loss of jobs etc.

[VXfan]

My money went towards paying off my new SS.Thanks Kev!:D
Cheers,
Tony.

[Nate07]

My money went towards paying off my new SS.Thanks Kev!:D
Cheers,
Tony.

New SS? VE?

[fatty]

I'll be buying models.( as soon as my retailer gets them )

[HrtTassieFan]

Getting side steps for my four wheel drive and a model if i have some coin left

[DJR17]

I will be picking up some lay-buys, can't wait for that.

[model_mad]

i think in the long term you will wish you didnt get the 950$ and kept liberal in office:o

[yap]

i think in the long term you will wish you didnt get the 950$ and kept liberal in office:o

+1

Especially when they put the GST up to 15% (or higher) to recoup their money

[supa-roo]

i think in the long term you will wish you didnt get the 950$ and kept liberal in office:o
+1

Especially when they put the GST up to 15% (or higher) to recoup their money

without getting into a politics, remind me again who intoduced the GST system into Australia :confused:

[HQGTS74]

I ain't getting any:(

[Tumbo]

without getting into a politics, remind me again who intoduced the GST system into Australia :confused:

Libs introduced it but remained true to their word no increase since 1998 - worrying the amount that Labour have spent. More than happy to take the money since it has been handed out Mr Rudd (honestly $950 to me isn't going to make a difference and there isn't going to be a raft of ppl handing back the money) but worried about the effect it will have on tax dollars in the future.............guess it's like choosing to take a hit now or in the future just gotta hope things swing around

[Nate07]

Libs introduced it but remained true to their word no increase since 1998 - worrying the amount that Labour have spent. More than happy to take the money since it has been handed out Mr Rudd (honestly $950 to me isn't going to make a difference and there isn't going to be a raft of ppl handing back the money) but worried about the effect it will have on tax dollars in the future.............guess it's like choosing to take a hit now or in the future just gotta hope things swing around

I think $900 is going to make a difference to a lot of people.

EDIT: Oh wait! I forgot you were a high salary Doctor:rolleyes:

:D;)

[VE II]

I think $900 is going to make a difference to a lot of people.

EDIT: Oh wait! I forgot you were a high salary Doctor:rolleyes:

:D;)

Not yet he's not... a poor med student with a 50k hecs debt would be more accurate :D

I'm saving my bonus' for later on in the year... eventually i'll spend it.

[supa-roo]

I think $900 is going to make a difference to a lot of people.

EDIT: Oh wait! I forgot you were a high salary Doctor:rolleyes:

:D;)

I recon it'll help alot of people also

And I also hope it swings around sooner rather than later but working for a global company all indicators show across most sectors that this will probaly not be the case until at least 2010, It's not just a local govenment issue and KRudd like him or not is trying help a little, I know my family appreciate it :)

[Nate07]

I recon it'll help alot of people also

And I also hope it swings around sooner rather than later but working for a global company all indicators show across most sectors that this will probaly not be the case until at least 2010, It's not just a local govenment issue and KRudd like him or not is trying help a little, I know my family appreciate it :)

I am sick of people calling him KRudd

[rayman]

I am sick of people calling him KRudd
How about Kevin Dudd?

[Nate07]

How about Kevin Dudd?

:rolleyes:

[Tumbo]

I think $900 is going to make a difference to a lot of people.

EDIT: Oh wait! I forgot you were a high salary Doctor:rolleyes:

:D;)

I meant in terms of handing money back $950 less of the millions which are being handed out to the entire country basically isn't going to make a dent - given my HECs debt is huge the last thing I want to see is tax-increases in the future once I start earning but too late now

[pitcrew]

that's his name
Well how about ruddy or ruddo,
other names can't be printed :D.

[stephenhrt]

What's wrong with Mr Sheen :D

[pitcrew]

Or "Butter's" off South Park :D

http://www.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:xecXvdCqMy8w 3M::southparkru.at.ua/13/Butters_South_Park.jpg (http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://sou thparkru.at.ua/13/Butters_South_Park.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showth read.php%3Ft%3D213075&h=352&w=251&sz=63&tbnid=xecXvdCqMy8w3M::&tbnh=120&tbnw=86&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbutters%2Bsouth%2Bpark&usg=__Ub_vT22La5m69AINHELE9I-KQ5s=&ei=ApHYSZTxB5WG6wOt79HlCg&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image)

[Road Runner 72]

This is why politics is never good subject matter on forums!

[HRT01]

This is why politics is never good subject matter on forums!

Go Pauline!! :D:D:o:rolleyes:

[ferrari fan]

We will all have to pay this spend back, even the ones that never received anything!
the total amount borrowed plus % and costs.
So, a bitter sweet giftwrapped handgranate from CRUDDY.
Enjoy the short term feeling of being in front.
There is a court case running over the legality of the goverment being able to do this under the Australian constitution in the High Court.
Could be very interesting if the finding was against the CRUDD goverments decision.

[pitcrew]

I heard some results of case like that in the supreme or high court late last week, they interview the guy on radio stating that he had lost the case but it was great that one man could be heard.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/03/19/2520 178.htm

[rex555]

thanks to Mr Rudd I currently have 4 1/18s waiting at the Post Office :D!

An' there was me thinking that you were a poor student living a hand to mouth existance? ;P

[Tumbo]

High Court case has been decided in favour of the government. Was a law lecturer who brought the case and it was only in relation to the tax handout - didn't cover the other payments. The government have acted under their powers of the constitution legally.

[ViperSRT10]

Why is this such a big issue when I witness bums in my street getting hand outs every week because they are too lazy to work? The worker gets a break for a change and it's a tragedy?

[Hey Charger]

Saving it in the bank so I can hand it back in 3yrs time to cover higher taxes and rising interest rates

[singer]

whether we agree with the Stimulus package or not, it is a fact of life that this is one of the present Govt policies.

One thing is for sure, it will probably be paid back over generations.

On another positive point, it's good to see that someone can challenge it on Constitutional grounds in the High Court.

Having had a case decided in the High Court, I can tell you (from experience) that going to the High Court is not something which is taken lightly nor without the monetary consideration as it COSTS BIG $$$$$$ to run a Case in the High Court

[tigerpete]

whether we agree with the Stimulus package or not, it is a fact of life that this is one of the present Govt policies.

One thing is for sure, it will probably be paid back over generations.

On another positive point, it's good to see that someone can challenge it on Constitutional grounds in the High Court.

Having had a case decided in the High Court, I can tell you (from experience) that going to the High Court is not something which is taken lightly nor without the monetary consideration as it COSTS BIG $$$$$$ to run a Case in the High Court
who paid for that court case ?

[Damage]

whether we agree with the Stimulus package or not, it is a fact of life that this is one of the present Govt policies.

One thing is for sure, it will probably be paid back over generations.

On another positive point, it's good to see that someone can challenge it on Constitutional grounds in the High Court.

Having had a case decided in the High Court, I can tell you (from experience) that going to the High Court is not something which is taken lightly nor without the monetary consideration as it COSTS BIG $$$$$$ to run a Case in the High Court

Not much. If you dont have to pay for lawyers its just the submission costs. Not sure what the application fee is but I would be surprised if it was more than a couple of hundred.

[pitcrew]

would it be like the scense out of the "Castle"
It's the Vibe.

[Damage]

Here, sorry OT I know, but the most expensive hearing is $255

http://www.hcourt.gov.au/Second_Schedule_Costs.pdf

Not sure if they allow self-representation...

[8hype]

i want a 1:18 xu1 1973 brock torana!!!!!!!!!

[2QUIETLYCOLLECTATWORK]

My wife just bought me the 1:18 Brock 73 torana so maybe i'll be one of my other unicorns - either the 92 Bathurst winner or the 2002 bathurst winner .

Or maybe it will be the credit card bill

[Leigh]

Mine will be buying me a kegging setup...beer on tap at home mmmm

[REDVRSS]

Playstation 3 here, and the change on Beer.

[david5]

Ours is going on our trip to the Sunny Gold Coast in September for the sister in laws wedding. Ill be looking to do an extensive tour of the regions model shops while Im there. ;)

[smokey_dj]

Mine will be buying me a kegging setup...beer on tap at home mmmm

wanna buy mine mate

made 1 lot of home brew cider init and got over it

[fordmad17]

Ours is going on our trip to the Sunny Gold Coast in September for the sister in laws wedding. Ill be looking to do an extensive tour of the regions model shops while Im there. ;)

Maybe we could have a bit of a get together with some of us other Gold Coasters if you have time and if we can organize something
Cheers Drew

[whitlam]

I'm putting it all on red!!! :sweatdrop:

[AmonFan]

Depending on when i get it, it will pay for my Sandown entry, set of tyres etc :D

[Leigh]

Depending on when i get it, it will pay for my Sandown entry, set of tyres etc :D

With all the money I (and others) give you, I was certain you wouldn't qualify:p

[AmonFan]

With all the money I (and others) give you, I was certain you wouldn't qualify:p

If only i got paid more :D I only get equal to 200 1:18s at rrp $215 a year.......

[grease]

I have spent it on models and other things only to find out that I'm not getting it so now I'm in debt unlike before, so bring on round 3 FAST.

[david5]

Maybe we could have a bit of a get together with some of us other Gold Coasters if you have time and if we can organize something
Cheers Drew

That would be great Ill pm you closer to the date.

david

[ITGRIPS]

ours is going to go in the bank to help replace the money we spent on our new lounge that has just arrived.

[spoonster05]

Mine will be buying me a kegging setup...beer on tap at home mmmm

Whose going to be the first one to do a Barney and lie under the taps ? :p

If only i got paid more :D I only get equal to 200 1:18s at rrp $215 a year.......

You need to get into online vitamin selling then to boost up the income....:D

[kts350]

We are using to help pay for our new pc we are getting, the last one went on rego and I bought 1 model for $40 to use as a code 3..

[8hype]

Maybe we could have a bit of a get together with some of us other Gold Coasters if you have time and if we can organize something
Cheers Drew
sounds like a good plan

[Chev_350]

Maybe we could have a bit of a get together with some of us other Gold Coasters if you have time and if we can organize something
Cheers Drew

i'd been keen on something like that,

[DJR17]

Has anyone received the money yet. I just heard on the radio about the roll out over the next 6 weeks

[HRT_fan]

Got my cheque today :)

[david5]

sounds like a good plan

i'd been keen on something like that,

Sounds the go. I wont expect a limo or anything flash. :D

[singer]

Not much. If you dont have to pay for lawyers its just the submission costs. Not sure what the application fee is but I would be surprised if it was more than a couple of hundred.

You have to pay instructing Solicitors & QC's too (in my Case Senior QC's)

BTW as the original case in the Supreme Court (decision in my favour) had been appealled by the other party & we went through Fedral Court, full bench Federal Court then High Court, the other Party had to pay all legal costs IIRC $5m

It would have been cheaper for them to settle but they were worried about the precedent Set:rolleyes:

[wayno]

Whose going to be the first one to do a Barney and lie under the taps ? :p

Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick me! :D

[fatty]

Has anyone received the money yet. I just heard on the radio about the roll out over the next 6 weeksKeep checking my bank account but not yet.

[swanee]

Keep checking my bank account but not yet.

same... nothing yet..

[Malik]

nada here....

[fatty]

Still nothing.

[whitlam]

My package is still feeling very unstimulated

[Road Runner 72]

My mailbox was stimulated today! so I feel there will be some happy campers when they get off work today!

[fordmad17]

My mailbox hasn't been stimulated yet

[Damage]

Whats all this about mailboxes and stimulation?

[fordmad17]

You know the money we get from Kruddy's back pocket

[Damage]

Is this one for the shiny-bums, the unemployed or the natives?

[malscar]

Anyone who put their '07/'08 tax return in and I think got tax back.

[Road Runner 72]

I payed on my tax return, was a nice little suprise when I got home.

[Damage]

What about if you got all your tax back? (not that I did, just curious)

[smokey_dj]

damage it was for ppl who put forward there 07-08 tax return and earned less than i think it was $80,000 gross not 100% sure on that no# but if im wrong it was a higher no# than that anyway like $100k gross regaurdless of what tax return you recived

[VE II]

If you earnt less then $14 000, you got all your tax back and therefore unable to get the bonus.
Generally students fall in to that category. Though if students are on Youth Allowance or the like they can get $950 bonus.

[pitcrew]

sorry already said above

[smokey_dj]

its only $900 matt was scaled back to $900 about a month ago

[VE II]

its only $900 matt was scaled back to $900 about a month ago

nah - its $900 for tax returns, but from Centrelink its $950 :D - i got mine last week :D
Re that - you can be eligble for both - if ur on centrelink and earnt over $14k last year... then u get $950 + $900.

[Damage]

If you earnt less then $14 000, you got all your tax back and therefore unable to get the bonus.


Sounds a bit silly, the lowest income bracket not eligible for the STIMULATION. You sure about that? Me old Mum would be in that category. (Part time work) I think she got all of her five-hundred and something tax back. Whats the source of that info?

[VE II]

Sounds a bit silly, the lowest income bracket not eligible for the STIMULATION. You sure about that? Me old Mum would be in that category. (Part time work) I think she got all of her five-hundred and something tax back. Whats the source of that info?

Its from the ATO website... and yeah it is a bit / VERY silly.
Theres a calculator on their as well which shows if you're eligible and what you're entiled too

http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.asp?doc=/c ontent/00178930.htm&page=1&H1

re rolling out - apparently its done by postcodes and will take up to 6 wks!

[Damage]

Its from the ATO website... and yeah it is a bit / VERY silly.
Theres a calculator on their as well which shows if you're eligible and what you're entiled too

http://www.ato.gov.au/corporate/content.asp?doc=/c ontent/00178930.htm&page=1&H1

re rolling out - apparently its done by postcodes and will take up to 6 wks!

Thanks for that VE, no she is not eligible. Poor old bugger. I suppose I should gve her the 9 hunj...

[Nate07]

So I'm not eligable then? That sucks. Bloody apprentice!:mad:

[VE II]

Yeah, arguably the people that could use it the most dont get it.... yet people who have died since putting in their 07-08 tax return, or have gone to jail and are currently still there do... Not a lot of thought went into it.

[Nate07]

So because I only started working in Feb 2008, I started my Apprenticeship as a Motor Mechanic. I lodged my tax return last year, and got all my tax back. I am not eligibale for the stimulas. Is that correct?

[Tumbo]

if you didn't 'pay' - as in after filing your return did not receive all the tax back - any tax for the 07-8 financial yr then you are not eligible :(

[terrine]

What is silly is it is supposed to be a stimulus package.
Dont 6 figure wage earners spend money.

[Damage]

if you didn't 'pay' - as in after filing your return did not receive all the tax back - any tax for the 07-8 financial yr then you are not eligible :(

Meaning if you got ALL your tax back, you DON'T get it (that's if you earned 100k or less).

If you paid $15000 tax and got $14999 back you DO get it.

I don't expect to get it on my income but I feel for my old Mum, not that I really like her that much.

Dumb.

[the_goldie]

What is silly is it is supposed to be a stimulus package.
Dont 6 figure wage earners spend money.

Good point!

[Damage]

What is silly is it is supposed to be a stimulus package.
Dont 6 figure wage earners spend money.

Okay, but be honest, do we need it?

[brchi17]

Seeing I couldn't find a plasma I liked for the price, I think I might try for some heating/cooling in the shed :cool:

[terrine]

Okay, but be honest, do we need it?


Nobody needs this money, except the business' its supposed to filter through to.

In reality after those that have lost their jobs and self funded retirees the middle to top wage earners have financially probably been the worst effected by the financial crisis, declines in income and both investment capital and returns.

[domstrama]

the reality is this, the govt is giving us $900 or depending on your income, now how much do you think they are going to want back in taxes? , 2k maybe......?

[Bathurstfreak]

All this talk about do we need it etc.............I say if you have worked and paid Tax then YES!

Quite frankly it's about damn time the government gave the actual Tax Payers of this Country something back!! And they should throw a little extra to all the people who have lost their jobs due to this recession!

The only down side is eventually we are going to have to pay this money back, either through taxes, road tolls, petrol prices etc.....

[barnart]

I pay taxes to run the country and build schools, hospital and the list goes on. I don't pay taxes for lower income workers to purchase white goods and feed the pokies. At the end of the day I don't get any hand out, but I have help pay it back.

Thanks K Rudd for nothing but a debt.

[singer]

I pay taxes to run the country and build schools, hospital and the list goes on. I don't pay taxes for lower income workers to purchase white goods and feed the pokies. At the end of the day I don't get any hand out, but I have help pay it back.

Thanks K Rudd for nothing but a debt.

Someone might buy one of your DIORAMA'S which they might not have bought without the TAX monies (which we'll all have to Pay for)

[malscar]

Someone might buy one of your DIORAMA'S which they might not have bought without the TAX monies (which we'll all have to Pay for)


So, by what barnart has stated and I agree with him, in this scenario, barnart has bought his own diorama (with a interest charge over the time it will take to pay it back by way of taxes) and given it to someone else.

[singer]

So, by what barnart has stated and I agree with him, in this scenario, barnart has bought his own diorama (with a interest charge over the time it will take to pay it back by way of taxes) and given it to someone else.

I was trying to look on the brighter side, as I don't want my Son to be paying for the Govts policy for YEARS to come but its DONE, all over red rover .

Its done & its Govt Policy & there is nothing that we can do about it, but try & make the best of it.

[david5]

At least it took Gough Whitlam 3 years to send the country broke, Kevin747 will do it in half the time.

[Tumbo]

$42 billion..............we can hum and hah all we want about it being 'in the future' but I strongly think we will start paying back all this money by this yr's budget...............

[Bathurstfreak]

$42 billion..............we can hum and hah all we want about it being 'in the future' but I strongly think we will start paying back all this money by this yr's budget...............

OMG I wonder how much interest we are going to have to pay on that amount borrowed?

[VE II]

Its supposed to be something like 10x the original amount - i.e. every $900 given out, $9000 will have to be returned.
Thats the numbers they were throwing around when it was announced anyway.
I'll try and find some more information on it.

It'd been better if the stimulus package had been better thought out - i.e. NOT go to overseas people, NOT go to deceased people or people in jail as its not a stimulus then - rather a "hand out" / waste.

[brchi17]

I'd happily give back my $900 tomorrow if the government was to spend it on making more (better) roads, public transport, hospitals, schools etc...as in my eyes this handout is a misguided grab for votes....I'd much prefer it was spent on providing better infrastructure & like projects seeing we're going to be paying for this $900 long after what ever we purchase with it has died...

[VE II]

I'd happily give back my $900 tomorrow if the government was to spend it on making more (better) roads, public transport, hospitals, schools etc...as in my eyes this handout is a misguided grab for votes....I'd much prefer it was spent on providing better infrastructure & like projects seeing we're going to be paying for this $900 long after what ever we purchase with it has died...

Agreed Brad. And doing this would increase jobs and keep so many industries in work with long term benefits. Not rocket science really... :rolleyes:

[viking]

Don't worry people, John Bumbly has his road thugs out in force this weekend with the primary aim of acquiring as much stimulus money as he can, coz he'll spend it so much more wisely than we can, lol

[barnart]

The Australian Government does it again




It is interesting that the Federal Government provides a Single Refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00
and each can also get an additional $580. 00 in Social Assistance, so a total of $2,470.00 per month..
Family of 4 can receive $9,880.00 per month or yearly $118,685

A single Australian pensioner who, after contributing to the growth and development of Australia for
40 to 50 years, receives only a monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed
Income Supplement. (Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!)

*Let's send this to all Australians so we can all be ticked off and maybe we can get the refugees cut back to
$1,012.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470.00 and enjoy some of the money we are forced to submit to the
Government in taxes.

[viking]

It is a bit rough barnart, but if you happen to be a nurse (and I am not), you can apply to look after the refugees at an off-shore facility and get paid a couple of grand a week for doing so! I have heard that some of these "refugees" have been found with upwards of US$50000 on them.

[Bathurstfreak]

The Australian Government does it again




It is interesting that the Federal Government provides a Single Refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00
and each can also get an additional $580. 00 in Social Assistance, so a total of $2,470.00 per month..
Family of 4 can receive $9,880.00 per month or yearly $118,685

A single Australian pensioner who, after contributing to the growth and development of Australia for
40 to 50 years, receives only a monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed
Income Supplement. (Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!)

*Let's send this to all Australians so we can all be ticked off and maybe we can get the refugees cut back to
$1,012.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470.00 and enjoy some of the money we are forced to submit to the
Government in taxes.

No bloody wonder I see all these "refugees" with their thousands of children all dressed up in designer clothes and gold watches, rings etc........FMD I don't even make half of that a month and I work!

[pitcrew]

that is pathetic, look at the state of our country ie (hospitals transport, employment) and they go and do this.
I might get an old boat go offshore, beach myself on an island say I'm a refugee and retire.

[Damage]

The Australian Government does it again


It is interesting that the Federal Government provides a Single Refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00
and each can also get an additional $580. 00 in Social Assistance, so a total of $2,470.00 per month..
Family of 4 can receive $9,880.00 per month or yearly $118,685

A single Australian pensioner who, after contributing to the growth and development of Australia for
40 to 50 years, receives only a monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed
Income Supplement. (Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!)

*Let's send this to all Australians so we can all be ticked off and maybe we can get the refugees cut back to
$1,012.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470.00 and enjoy some of the money we are forced to submit to the
Government in taxes.

Scott can I ask what the source is of that info? Seems too stupid to be true. Much cheaper to send them back 1st class.

EDIT: Googled a sentence of that and anwered my own question. Looks like hoax email from the US.

[Tumbo]

note of course that there are multiple differences between refugees and an illegal immigrants ;)

[Damage]

Well, a fair percentage of the money spent by the recipients of this money will be funneled directly back into the Federal coffers via a complex network of taxes within taxes. Think about it.

In real terms, I'm more worried about our country donating funds to other nations, supposedly to help them out, and then they spend the money on other things. I dont see any skinny soldiers in footage from Somalia. I seem to remember a few years ago the Howard government giving Indonesia a rather large "stimulus Package" which they promptly spent on warplanes.

{OT RANT}

On the immigration/refugee issue, I disagree with the amount Australia receives of both. In the 50's/60's it was mostly Europeans, then the Asians in the 70's/80's. No real problems IMO. More recently however, the Middle Eastern and African arrivals are for me, a major concern. In many cases, they bring the violence and anger from thier homelands with them, do not assimilate and most worrying of all, many African nation's populations are up to 40% HIV+. Are we testing these "New Australians"?

Further, when many were failing the citizenship test, not only did they lower the pass mark but made the questions easier!

This may be OT or seem nasty or non-PC to some, but thats my view. Had to have a vent.

{/OT RANT}

[mick78]

Scott can I ask what the source is of that info? Seems too stupid to be true. Much cheaper to send them back 1st class.

EDIT: Googled a sentence of that and anwered my own question. Looks like hoax email from the US.

I think it has been quoted in the media a few times and has been debunked by a couple of media commentators, most notably Mediawatch on the ABC. I think you will find that it is a hoax.

[barnart]

Scott can I ask what the source is of that info? Seems too stupid to be true. Much cheaper to send them back 1st class.

EDIT: Googled a sentence of that and anwered my own question. Looks like hoax email from the US.


Just came via a email so I don't know where it came from, but I will say we do look after boat people pretty well.

[david5]

Just came via a email so I don't know where it came from, but I will say we do look after boat people pretty well.

You just cant tip them into the sea. One day it might be us in strife, I hope not.

David

[Tumbo]

Singapore just send them on as do Indonesia - being the 'end of the line' plays against us

[wayno]

Antarctica is just down the world a bit. ;)

[Tumbo]

of course 42% is Australian lol!!!!

wonder how long it will take stimulus cheques to reach scientists down there lol! and what industry is there to spend the money and fuel the economy?

[viking]

Talking to people at work, some have been blessed, but I am still hanging out for my krudd money. Has anyone here got it yet.

[grease]

Not me I dont qualify but my house mate is still waiting!

[jdnno1]

Talking to people at work, some have been blessed, but I am still hanging out for my krudd money. Has anyone here got it yet.

Yep I got it 2 weeks ago, also that day at the servo the attendant said she also got it the same day, so I'm wondering if their doing it by area, that was in Ballarat. My parents are getting theirs sent to the tax agent, which happens to some people.


Nick

[smokey_dj]

arrived this morning for mum dad and a the missus still hasnt got it though and she lives here too!!!

[halbster]

Heard on the radio the other day, someone used their $900 stimulus grant to buy a gun on the black market.....not sure how true it is, but has probably happened.

[barnart]

Mr Rudd is spending his on cheese @ $128.00 per kilo and a loaf of bed @ $6.40 as reported yesterday in the herald sun.

[fatty]

Havent got mine yet.

[Skaife fan]

Haven't got mine yet either.

[jdnno1]

I'm sure they said it would take 6 weeks to pay everyone, so everyone should get it by about 2 weeks into May.


Nick

[fordmad17]

Haven't got mine either

[UNDFTD]

got mine 2 minutes ago.........pre orders here i come!!!!

[lionking]

Mine will come off my tab.. :o

[Oh Five]

Been and gone!!

[group C]

Got a cheque in the mail last wed,mine will be going to expenses of going to the V8's in Townsville.:D:party2:

[J-PaP]

just got confirmation I won't be getting this as my dad just got his cheque. Seems because I was in between jobs I didn't earn enough last year to "pay" tax.

[john]

Got a cheque in the mail last wed,mine will be going to expenses of going to the V8's in Townsville.:D:party2:
group C, this is EXACTLY how they want us to spend the money, because it stays right here in Australia. Much better than buying an overseas made television. Good on you & enjoy your trip.

[fatty]

Received mine yesterday. I want new models now.:D

[VE II]

Mine rocked up in my bank account this morning :D. I would buy new models but ive already had pre spent it! whoops!

[Bathurstfreak]

Whooo hoo I gone mine this morning as well!

[Maq]

Got mine at the start of the week. I supported my local model shop not ebay sharks. Thanks KRUDDY :2thumbsup:

[fordmad17]

Wish mine would come

[singer]

Got mine & all went on Bills:(

[pitcrew]

lucky Bill :D:D
(sorry)

[spiderken17]

Mine arrived yesterday and is going towards this.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u229/spiderken1 7/engine.jpg

Leyland alloy V8 with Supra 5 speed for my Datsun 260Z.
Not the fastest engine but it makes the right noise.

[8hype]

got mine and got a few models.77 brock 1:18 and johnson bathurst winning sierra.and a 1:43 bathurst 69 winner

[lionking]

Got mine & all went on Bills:(

Gee singer, that is sad...

[singer]

Gee singer, that is sad...

Sandra has to go back into Hospital to have another Cancer removed.

The Cancer is on her lip so she Needs Plastic surgery as well.

The Plastic Surgeon will only operate at a Private Hospital hence the Krudd Money came in Handy

She won't be able to talk for a week:p;)

Those who know her will attest that this will be the hardest week of her life

[zoomster]

Got my the other day so went to Rare Spares in Adelaide and brought the GMP Ferrari 330 P4 ,the one I showed in Most Recent Model Purchased,while there I got them to order another GMP.Have to support local shops.

[malscar]

She won't be able to talk for a week:p;)

Those who know her will attest that this will be the hardest week of her life


And probably the quietest of yours.

Wish her well for me Ken.

[singer]

And probably the quietist of yours.

Wish her well for me Ken.

Will do Mal though Not now as she is asleep:)

It may well be the quietest week though I'd prefer to have a talking Sandra than ALL the Diecast inthe World

Cheers

[zoomster]

Hi Singer good luck,$900 well worth spending.

[pitcrew]

Sandra has to go back into Hospital to have another Cancer removed.

The Cancer is on her lip so she Needs Plastic surgery as well.

The Plastic Surgeon will only operate at a Private Hospital hence the Krudd Money came in Handy

She won't be able to talk for a week:p;)

Those who know her will attest that this will be the hardest week of her life
Sorry to hear Singer, hope all is well.
I do apologize for my comment about (Bill/s), not the right time.
Cheers :)

[Oh Five]

I'm sure Ken can speak for himself (and probably will) but i dont think he'll be offended, you wernt to know:)

[singer]

Sorry to hear Singer, hope all is well.
I do apologize for my comment about (Bill/s), not the right time.
Cheers :)

All OK, nothing to apologise for as I hadn't said anything & even if I had I didn't find your remark offensive, more amusing:)

[grease]

Surprise surprise I got the money, that was a surprise as they told me I was not eligable on the phone.

[spoonster05]

Got mine today as well, decided it would be useful to fund this years Bathurst trip with Kev's dollars.....:)

[grease]

Looks like I might get my car serviced and tuned with the money! No fun with it dam!

[john]

Surprise surprise I got the money, that was a surprise as they told me I was not eligable on the phone.

Ring them back & tell them you "accidently" got the money & you would like to hand it back.... yeah right !!!!

[barnart]

As I am not getting the $900.00 from Kev, dose that mean I don't need to help pay the 100's billions back??

[singer]

As I am not getting the $900.00 from Kev, dose that mean I don't need to help pay the 100's billions back??
The Kruddswann DEBT belongs to every man, woman & child :(

[barnart]

The Kruddswann DEBT belongs to every man, woman & child :(

O POO

[brchi17]

The Kruddswann DEBT belongs to every man, woman & child :(

seeing I voted for the other guy, you can have my share Ken :p

[rex555]

Don't vote it only encourages them ;)

I got stimulated yesterday.............. :D


Only to be told that I can't spend it on model cars :(

[beast]

Dear Mr Rudd.

I wish to inform you that I still haven't recieved my stimulus package just as yet. I would be very intrigued to know when this payment will be recieved. I thought about knocking on your front door but thought the better of it.

Please contact me back soon.

[fordmad17]

I still haven't got mine either

[whitlam]

Wait till the 16th, if you haven't got it by then, start complaining ;)

[ViperSRT10]

I want to spend some of mine at P101 and please the greedy half witted clowns (refer 2008 V8 Supercar yearbook thread) when they decide to get their act together and print it!

[james]

seeing I voted for the other guy, you can have my share Ken :p
I'm with you Brad,(but will take whatever they give me)

[singer]

seeing I voted for the other guy, you can have my share Ken :p

He lost more (including his Seat in Parliament) esp when he was Treasurer. He took us into a recession too in 1979 thru 83.

Anyway Teach, you earn more than I do, so you can have mine, yours, Christopher's & the 2 Sandra's;)

[awawaw]

Dear Mr Rudd.

I wish to inform you that I still haven't recieved my stimulus package just as yet. I would be very intrigued to know when this payment will be recieved. I thought about knocking on your front door but thought the better of it.

Please contact me back soon.

I could of used it on my holidays...didnt get it. I could really do with it this week...havent got it. I REALLY need it next week...I hope I get it!!

[smythy17]

Dear Mr Rudd.

I wish to inform you that I still haven't recieved my stimulus package just as yet. I would be very intrigued to know when this payment will be recieved. I thought about knocking on your front door but thought the better of it.

Please contact me back soon.

It'd be futile knockin' on Kruddy's door.. He's probably off oversea's AGAIN spending it for ya..:D:D You'd have a better chance stimulating yourself!!

[The real OZ GP]

Unless you can wave a Hair Dryer around , bet he would offer you the money then :)

[terrine]

...and tonite at 7.30 we will find out the cost to date of Chairman Kev and Swansongs fiscal mismanagement and how working families are going to pay it back

[wazza002]

I got my stimulus money today, So i'm very happy, thanks Mr Rudd ;):D

[pitcrew]

I better cash my check before Krud takes it back.

[smythy17]

...and tonite at 7.30 we will find out the cost to date of Chairman Kev and Swansongs fiscal mismanagement and how working families are going to pay it back


Ha ha oh but it's not our fault... "It's all due to the previous government.. it's their fault".. LOL.. Nothin like floggin it for all it's worth. Gee one of these days they might actually have to take responsibility for something.. not likely.. :mad:

[singer]

Ha ha oh but it's not our fault... "It's all due to the previous government.. it's their fault".. LOL.. Nothin like floggin it for all it's worth. Gee one of these days they might actually have to take responsibility for something.. not likely.. :mad:

Back in 96 when the Lib/Nats got in, it was all Labors fault.

Does anyone remember "The Labor Black Hole" or another 1 from CHOWARD "Core promises & non Core Promises" .

Remember that all politicians LIE:mad:

I expect Better from the present Leader of the Opposition, but then what else can I expect from someone who made most of their Money during the Labor Boom times:mad:

[Tumbo]

note that Kevin said it would be different under his government and they wouldn't hide - further that there was a huge surplus which disappeared rather quickly in the last 6mths there Ken.......in reality this deficit should read $80 billion

[Leigh]

Makes me laugh when I hear that Governments are better off with surplus budgets.

There is a whole lot more to it than that!

Ken, pretty naive comment that. The fact is that there is no single answer in politics, just like economics and religion! Just because you disagree with the logic, does not make them liars...

[david5]

during the Labor Boom times:mad:

Remind me when this was ??

[singer]

Makes me laugh when I hear that Governments are better off with surplus budgets.

There is a whole lot more to it than that!

Ken, pretty naive comment that. The fact is that there is no single answer in politics, just like economics and religion! Just because you disagree with the logic, does not make them liars...

Leigh,

Who is being niave?

IMHO, all Politicians LIE or tell half truths when it suits.

Just trying to point out that all sides of Politics twist the Truth to suit whatever they are trying to put across.

I.e. John Howard on Liberal Leadership when Peacock was Leader
said something like 'I will never try to become Leader, it'd be like Lazoarous with a Triple bypass' Or like John Howard & Peter Reith when trying to sell "Children OverBoard" or the "Martime Union" lockout from Patricks.

Keating (Cheating) "The Recession We had to Have" when interest rates hit 19- 20%

etc, etc, etc

during the Labor/Boom times
Remind me when this was ??

David, Malcolm "The Tunip" Turnbull made most of his Money during the late 80's & early 90's. During the Mid to late 80's we had a resonably stable economy

He also made money during the late 90's before off loading the MacQuarie Bank when he became interested in the Republic then in the Politics of the Country.

[malscar]

David, Malcolm "The Tunip" Turnbull made most of his Money during the late 80's & early 90's. During the Mid to late 80's we had a resonably stable economy



Don't know if I would call it stable with the housing interest rates peaking at 18%.


By the way, how is Sandra? talking your leg off yet?

[singer]

Don't know if I would call it stable with the housing interest rates peaking at 18%.


By the way, how is Sandra? talking your leg off yet?

1. Remember MT was a Banker;)

2. Not yet !:o

[Road Runner 72]

1. Remember MT was a Banker;)

2. Not yet !:o

did the word Banker start with a W?

[singer]

did the word Banker start with a W?

IMO he is 1 now:p. I don't think he'll last long in the job:rolleyes:

[david5]

IMO he is 1 now:p. I don't think he'll last long in the job:rolleyes:

PC is waiting in the wings.:D

[barnart]

PC is waiting in the wings.:D


And with a safe pair of hands

[terrine]

David, Malcolm "The Tunip" Turnbull made most of his Money during the late 80's & early 90's. During the Mid to late 80's we had a resonably stable economy

He also made money during the late 90's before off loading the MacQuarie Bank when he became interested in the Republic then in the Politics of the Country.


Whilst Turnball was a banker, I cant recall his involvement with Mac Bank, he was a partner in a few firms and MD of Goldman Sachs. The internet really fattenned his piggy bank, you cant put that down to politics, it was just good business - he was a founder and chairman of OZEMAIL (Jones/Bowe, remember them) which he sold to MCI Worldcom and pocketed $60m. It is possible however that fate got some help, who knows , as he was heavily linked to the other side of politics in those days with business interests with Gough Whitlams son and Neville Wran

[Leigh]

OK Singer, that's cool. Using your definitions I will no state that your whole post is a lie (i.e. you are twisting the truth to make your point)...

Do you see my point?

I don't believe that last statement of mine, but that is exactly how YOU just described it.

Just because somebody sees a situation differently to you does not make their view any less valid or as you would say a lie or a "twisting of the truth"...

As an example, Howard was correctly told that children were thrown overboard. He then announced this. Are you going to say this event didn't happen? Where he failed was finding out and informing the public WHY they were thrown overboard!

I could go on, but it is clear that your political opinions differ from others on here (including mine), and I for one would appreciate you not using this forum as your political soapbox!

[singer]

OK Singer, that's cool. Using your definitions I will no state that your whole post is a lie (i.e. you are twisting the truth to make your point)...

Do you see my point?

I don't believe that last statement of mine, but that is exactly how YOU just described it.

Just because somebody sees a situation differently to you does not make their view any less valid or as you would say a lie or a "twisting of the truth"...

As an example, Howard was correctly told that children were thrown overboard. He then announced this. Are you going to say this event didn't happen? Where he failed was finding out and informing the public WHY they were thrown overboard!

I could go on, but it is clear that your political opinions differ from others on here (including mine), and I for one would appreciate you not using this forum as your political soapbox!


This whole thread has a Political bent to it.

I have no particular Axe to grind Political or otherwise.

In regard to Soapboxes, if I have an opinion, I will continue to express them

I you find differing opinions to your own difficult to bear, I suggest you stop frequenting forums because it seems you will find their are people using forums with varying opinions.

[Leigh]

You are a very funny man Singer!

Your second line is a very big LIE! Absolutely no doubt about it. You have many axes to grind, politically and otherwise! Remember I spent 3 hours in lengthy discussions with you about many of your axes.

Feel free to express your opinion Singer, and feel free to continue to choose to miss the point.

This thread was about the Stimulus Money, the o.p. asks if people are going to spend it on models...the o.p. does not suggest talking about the politics of the decision, nor whether you agree with those politics, nor the politics of politicians or other political activities, which your last few posts have been solely focused on.

If you think I find your comments difficult to bear, then you really don't understand me at all...as with you I will freely express my opinions.

Happy to debate bureacracy and politics all day mate...oh hang on, that is my day job...

Shall I express this in another way. Should you continue to degrade this thread with your political opinion, I will be forced to continue to counter with mine...after all, THAT IS WHO I AM! I tend to hold back a fair bit on this forum (now that will scare some people)...but I'm happy to let rip!

Do YOU want to be responsible for that...I leave the decision to you...

[david5]

Take a deep breath Leigh.

[Leigh]

I haven't stopped breathing Dave...I get a kick out of bureacracy and politics...strange but true:confused: In fact doing a Masters in it!

I just don't want to bore the general populus of this forum;) You should see the political debates on other forums...albeit in threads labled "Political debate on X"...lots of fun!

[david5]

I dont mind the political debate, if Im not interested, I just dont take comments onboard. Dont think you have to call anyone a liar thats all.

Whilst on a political subject, Im amazed that the Labour party would think of a double disalusion (sp?) atm, lot of people feeling a lot of pain.

David

[ViperSRT10]

Go for it Leigh, there should be more of it :) I'm not bored. People should think before they open their mouths (or keyboards) before typing some of the crapola that comes out sometimes.

[malscar]

http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/images/smili es/popcorn.gif http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/images/smili es/stickpoke.gif

[david5]

Go for it Leigh, there should be more of it :) I'm not bored. People should think before they open their mouths (or keyboards) before typing some of the crapola that comes out sometimes.

Yes.

[Leigh]

Dont think you have to call anyone a liar thats all.


Agree 100% David. I think it is worse though to call somebody a liar who isn't here to defend themselves.

My mum always taught me to treat others as you would like to be treated, but I always took that to mean treat others as you see them treating others...

[Leigh]

PS and for my uncles mate who reads this forum but won't identify himself, my mum knows that;)

[david5]

Agree 100% David. I think it is worse though to call somebody a liar who isn't here to defend themselves.

My mum always taught me to treat others as you would like to be treated, but I always took that to mean treat others as you see them treating others...

Fair enough, however I feel that politicians are a different kettle of fish to fellow forum members.

[Leigh]

I think it applies to everybody...

You make it sound so...ummm...like a ... ummm...warm-fuzzy club of some sorts:p

[Tumbo]

I agree Leigh but there is a distinct difference between a politician who tells a lie and a politician who forwards on false information. Re: Howard and the children overboard he was acting on advice from defence and was merely stating the facts as he knew them when he told the public (like GWB and the WMDs but that is a different kettle of fish altogether) Rudd stating that he would stop the blame game of previous governments and get on w/ governing without stooping to blaming the other side of the political fence and would take responsiblity for the hard decisions is at best a truth w/ a caveat and at worse an outright lie - notice that Malcolm brought that to the fore last night in his budget reply.

[david5]

I think it applies to everybody...

You make it sound so...ummm...like a ... ummm...warm-fuzzy club of some sorts:p

Well..........yes. I dont come on here to rip into anyone. Will defend myself if I have to. On some occassions I have made mistakes & apologised to the open forum.

david

[Leigh]

But that is different to making a statement that "all politicians lie"...which is in effect calling them liars...

Anyways, way off topic! I'll be filling the first keg I bought with my stimulus money this weekend...will be good pouring from the tap at home:D

[david5]

Do you refrigerate the whole keg or cool it at the tap ?

[singer]

You are a very funny man Singer!

Your second line is a very big LIE! Absolutely no doubt about it. You have many axes to grind, politically and otherwise! Remember I spent 3 hours in lengthy discussions with you about many of your axes.

Feel free to express your opinion Singer, and feel free to continue to choose to miss the point.

This thread was about the Stimulus Money, the o.p. asks if people are going to spend it on models...the o.p. does not suggest talking about the politics of the decision, nor whether you agree with those politics, nor the politics of politicians or other political activities, which your last few posts have been solely focused on.

If you think I find your comments difficult to bear, then you really don't understand me at all...as with you I will freely express my opinions.

Happy to debate bureacracy and politics all day mate...oh hang on, that is my day job...

Shall I express this in another way. Should you continue to degrade this thread with your political opinion, I will be forced to continue to counter with mine...after all, THAT IS WHO I AM! I tend to hold back a fair bit on this forum (now that will scare some people)...but I'm happy to let rip!

Do YOU want to be responsible for that...I leave the decision to you...

I am very happy to have a conversation/debate with you but this Forum is not the place.

If you'd like I can PM you with Detail so that we can have a in depth discussion. It was my day job too, for some 20 years.


From my experience with all sides of Politics, they do lie, whether it be by ommission, straight to your face or by following a Party line when they've staed otherwise.

I hold many opinions & do not expect others to hold the same. It would be be very dull,boring As well as a Sad old world if we all thought the same.

I wasn't the first one to place political comment here, however I have continued it.

I'll expect a PM, should you wish to continue.

Cheers:)

[robrooter]

a new car diecast of course.

[singer]

a new car diecast of course.

Well thats stimulating the economy at least.;) (which is what it was meant for)

Hope it makes you happy:)