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HDT 4 EVER
17-01-2003, 08:09 PM
Hi collector's now that the monaro's are here i think the hk/t/g
brougham would make a great model what do you's think.
Three_o_seven
18-01-2003, 10:22 AM
Even the plain old Belmont or Premier would look good, even station wagons and utes would be another way to go. HK Monaro with a Premier grille would look smart.
Bring on the 307 Brougham.
Jeremy
7Litre
18-01-2003, 05:56 PM
"King of the Cruzers"[/B]
As a Ford Fan, the Brougham has soft spot in my heart.
What a great classic luxury car, with all the power of a Monaro but with all the creature to boot.
Looking through a GMH advertising Magazine The HK Brougham came with 240 hp 308 with Magic Mirror acrylic lacquer. Optioned with a Black island vinyl roof or light saddle tan.
If anyone can help, please tell me what colour range they were available in.
Graeme
18-01-2003, 07:31 PM
Sorry I can't help with the colour range for "7litre" , but I think he may be confusing his engine applications between the HK and HT model Broughams.
The American-sourced 307 V8 (Chevrolet) engine was available in the HK model range, badged as "5 litre", and was the standard equipment engine for the HK Brougham. This engine also found it's way onto early-build HT Holdens following their release in May 1969, along with the new baby, the locally developed Australian-built 253 V8.
Release of the HT Brougham was delayed until August 1969 and when it did appear, it was initially exclusive in being the only Holden HT model to feature the new Holden 308 V8, this engine being a development of the 253. The fender badging proclaimed this engine as "308", which helped with avoiding confusion over which 5 litre V8 engine was under the bonnet.
The 253 and 307 engines were two-barrel carburettor units rated at 185bhp and 210bhp respectively and the four-barrel 308 was rated at 240bhp.
The Aussie V8's were well received at the time in relation to both performance and fuel economy when compared to the imported 307 engine.
The one thing that always comes to mind about the Brougham was the enormous boot it had. I imagine with all the extra leg space, they had to extend the boot.
timbo333
19-01-2003, 06:08 PM
My first motor was a 1968 HK Premier Sedan bought 'very used' for $600 in 1983.
I spent bucket loads under the bonnet and in stereo equipment. Chrome everywhere!
I had a mate who had a pearly white Brougham and always loved hearing the V8 burble.........
Geez those were the days.........and petrol was around 20c a litre......:eek:
chups
19-01-2003, 07:11 PM
My uncle is restoring his dads old brougham (very slowly) and its looking great, although he doesnt have the brougham badge or the holden badge from it. maybe when he gets to that stage ill giv em back but at the moment they look very nice in my collection rather than in a tray on his bench getting dirty. i cant wait for him to finish it though they look awsome.
Three_o_seven
20-01-2003, 01:27 PM
Hey chups....
I have two front fender '5 litre' badges off an early HK Brougham if your mate ends up needing a set....they came with the 307 I bought for my Chev.... as well as an M21 Holden to Chev 4speed bell housing, manual flywheel and original Holden SL/R 5000 4spd bell housing to suit 308/253 motor. If anyone is interested in these let me know.
Jeremy
Graeme
20-01-2003, 10:50 PM
It may come as a surprise to VRSS, but the Brougham did not feature any extra interior room - other than rear headroom via a slightly extended roof - to it's lesser brothers. An extension of the boot existed to give the appearance of a bigger luxury car.
With the HQ Holden came the longer wheelbase for wagon variants and the new Statesman.
I've just been reading A C Bushby's "The Holden Collection" and I think this contains the reference of '7litre' to the HK Brougham. The reprint article actually refers to the HT Brougham, but it's been incorrectly printed between two HK-related items.
I note that both the HK and HT Broughams feature the "island vinyl roof", which describes the fact that the vinyl roof does not carry all the way across to the rain-gutters or windscreen and 'A' pillars, thus leaving a painted area above the door/windscreen frames ....looks good, but I'd guess it became an effective rust producer over time. Still, customers also had the option of a painted roof.
The same book illustrates samples of the HK Premier range of exclusive metallic paint colours, some of which may also have applied to the Brougham, namely :
The lighter metallics:
Hacienda Blue
Silver Mink
Tennyson Turquoise
Inca Gold
The darker metallics:
Burgundy Maroon
Paragon Blue
In addition, the solid colours of Grecian White and Warrigal Black were available on all HK model Holden cars.
chups
19-02-2003, 08:48 PM
Hey admin, is there any news on a HT borugham yet? is it in the pipeline? i noticed that most collectors are about the age that they grew up with these cars. i wasnt arround then but my dad was and that was the car he learnt to drive in (yes, its the one my uncles restoring) and every time he comes in and sees my HT, i get the whole story, he would love the model but my modifying skills arent that good yet. i think it would be a huge seller as the appear so popular. even non collectoers would love the memories of one. (lets face it, thats how most of us got collecting)
Three_o_seven
20-02-2003, 09:48 AM
Have you guys seen the movie 'Dirty Deeds' yet? There's a top looking HK Brougham (Dark metalic green) that Bryan Brown gets around in....worth a look.
Jeremy
Timbo333
Not that i'm ancient but i remember when i brought my first car back in 1972 - a HT GTS Monaro( only a 186S - but had a great time in it), anyway, petrol was 22cents/gallon :D . What about the rest of you, what is the cheapest priced petrol you can remember?
Cheers Frank
FORDS - KEEP ON CRUZIN:)
Graeme
20-02-2003, 12:41 PM
I got my driver's licence in 1977 and remember those days of buying only $2.00 or $5.00 worth of petrol at each visit.
The ACTU (Australian Council of Trade Unions) was playing the game back then with it's discount "ACTU-SOLO" service stations, much like Woolworths Plus Petrol today.
My first experience in 1977 had Standard petrol at 13.5 cents/litre and Super at 15.0 cents/litre.
cleveland
20-02-2003, 07:02 PM
I got my licence in May 1981, the petrol prices were around 33.3 cents per litre for super in those days!
cleveland....:mad:
Esses
20-02-2003, 07:05 PM
I can't remember the price per litre, but I do remember doing a quick return trip to the coast & back one Tuesday night with 2 mates in my Cooperised Mini Clubman Van, 1982, I think. One of the mates had left an open drum of kero in the ceiling of his family's beach-house, & had to get it down, but quick.
Bottom line was, his 302 XB was too thirsty, the other guys EH likewise, so we took the Mini, & used a total of $12-00 petrol for the entire run. From memory, about 45mpg! Going VERY quickly.
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