Symons Plains

[Oh Five]

Just browsed through and noted there wasnt a thread for this round, so here we go:)
Just saves reading about results, accidents, dumb driving stunts, dumb schenkin decisions etc, in various threads, for those who dont want to know yet;)

[Rob]

For starters you need to spell "Symmons" with the extra "m".
Secondly, qualifying has been run and won and it should be an interesting race 1...hopefully.

[no1holdenfan]

How about the guy who qualified second?

[Rob]

Yeah not bad for an old guy. Must have been the chat I had with him on Wednesday??

[bills]

who wants to know who got pole?

[VXfan]

How about the guy who qualified second?
I have never doubted him personally though many others can't seem to wait to pension him off...;)
Cheers,
Tony.

[VE II]

Top 10 shoot out results here for those who havent seen it yet and want to.

Great front row ;)

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/v8data/2009/evnt_272/ raceresult.asp?ssn=2009&ind=M&rid=976&eid=272&rDesc=Top 10&rDay=SAT

[Oh Five]

Firstly, sorry Rob I didnt know it mattered that much, still pronounced the same isnt it?
Secondly I posted this AFTER the top 10 had been won, so was aware of the result thanks.

[pitcrew]

It's on Most Recent Model Purchased as well :furious3::smash:.
Crap !!!! were being invaded....:alien:

[smokey_dj]

i just reported both

[wazza002]

i just reported both

Yeah I did to, but the 4 of them

[singer]

Yeah I did to, but the 4 of them

I suugest that you Forward them to Chris Roche & Richard Poole as well.

They seem to think that the Moderators have ALL the time in the World to get the SPAMMERS out of the system ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS.

Our Mods do a Fantastic Job however they do have a Life outside of the Biante Forum including their JOBS, SPOUSES, & FAMILIES

[Rob]

Firstly, sorry Rob I didnt know it mattered that much, still pronounced the same isnt it?
Secondly I posted this AFTER the top 10 had been won, so was aware of the result thanks.

It's OK, I wasn't having a go, just pointing out that an "m" was missing.
It's unfortunate, in general, that spelling these days doesn't seem to matter.
I guess it's down to the SMS age we are in??

As for qualifying, I was merely stating that it had been run and should
make for an interesting race....it wasn't directed at you at all.

[Kashmir]

Nice to see that Holden FINALLY got a pole:D
And neither 888 car in the top 5 as well.

[minh427]

Hahaha Haven't seen the bird for a while in V8 supercars lol

[Oh Five]

Dont get too cocky yet Kash, its only pole;)

[Kashmir]

Dont get too cocky yet Kash, its only pole;)

Yeah I know,but It's nice to see at least a pole seeing how we've had nothing this year so far.

[pitcrew]

Great work GT, now for the race "You Can Do It". please !
Cheers

[Oh Five]

I wonder if there will be a special release model of Ricks car with "Ricks Century" on the bonnet:rolleyes:

[smokey_dj]

i bloody hope there is

i even got a can of jack and coke to celebrate in my own lil way

[pitcrew]

Did they do one for Todd ?

[smokey_dj]

when was his i cant remember

[pitcrew]

when was his i cant remember
me either. I'll do some searching.

[El Cheapo]

Oh God. Ingall must've been close to exploding :laugh4: At least you guys finally got something on the board :D

[VE II]

Poor Ingall there. So close to getting past Tander, probably would have made it if it wasnt for the slower cars.

Regardless, :D :D :D

[Kashmir]

Good to see a Holden win:D

[T888]

Good to see Johnson up there - would have loved to see all the lapped cars show some better driving toward Ingall - he should have won the race.

I must say though, it's time V8 Supercars got itself sorted out.
In qualifying both Lowndes and Coulthard should not have been excluded, they did not benafit in any way from having unfortunate off track experiences.

The top ten (or nine) shootout is a joke, they need to start allowing heat packs on tires. Tander did not deserve pole position, and he only got it because of the tire temperature advantage from qualifying worse than the others in the ten (nine). I'm sure the result would be completely different if it wasn't so tied up in the stupid officials web.

V8 Supercars is going down hill fast, I care less and less after every round - love the drivers, but can't get my head past the stupid organization running them...

[pitcrew]

Great work GT, now for the race "You Can Do It". please !
Cheers
Well done, top job. Good to see the Generals back on the podium. Good race for Ingall too.
cheers :D

[barnart]

Well done, top job. Good to see the Generals back on the podium. Good race for Ingall too.
cheers :D

About time , it only took you lot 7 races

[HQGTS74]

Damn i missed it! HRT come out on top?!??!

[group C]

Great race from GT and also Ingall,goo dto see the red ones up the top for a change.

[pitcrew]

About time , it only took you lot 7 races
As the T.V ad say's. If it happens once a year it's a goodyear.
Is this the start of a comeback for the general. :D

[supa-roo]

What the hell happen today :confused:

I demand a parity review :D

In the words of the great rat Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[barnart]

As the T.V ad say's. If it happens once a year it's a goodyear.
Is this the start of a comeback for the general. :D

Thats the general with no parent company and it's about to be sold overseas

[Pug205]

Its a joke isn't supa-roo, Ford could only manage a 3rd (mind you what a car it was too!)

If they keep this up tomorrow I will turn off in disgust :D

[barnart]

We should complain I think HRT were running brackets AND BOLTS IN THEIR SPLITTER

[supa-roo]

Oh I'm so disillusioned, I'm blaming the front splitter :laugh4:

seriously though, that was a bit of a shame with the back runners and rusty, would have been a great finnishing tussle

[T888]

As I said, if don't qualify 1st in 2nd qualifying, aim for 10th! Then you get pole the same way Tander did.

Barnart - they were running bolts in the splitter? That must be goving them some kind of advantage! I'd bet the Ford teams arn't low enough to complain abour it though.

[HRT-222]

Yea great race by GT, well deserved win.......i think russell was a unlucky there getting cut off by other drivers once GT had overtaken them but otherwise it was a great race between the two.

[wazza002]

Well done to Tander and Ingell for a great race and a win :D

[brchi17]

...In qualifying both Lowndes and Coulthard should not have been excluded, they did not benafit in any way from having unfortunate off track experiences....

I actually think that giving them a smack in the head for this was not such a bad thing. My logic is their error ruined many drivers laps and so they deserve some form of penalty. Does the penalty fit the crime, I doubt so, which is why I think it would of been fairer for both of those drivers to have simply lost their fastest lap to that point for causing the red flag & then been allowed to rejoin the session when it was restarted.

[Maq]

Coultard and Lowndes Getting sat out was a joke. There should be more time between Qual and T10 so that the first few do not benifit from having warm tyres. Ingall got ripped big time by 3 laped cars and should have one easy. T kelly bumping Courtney down the Back straight was a bit poor. Great to see Jnr sticking to all the knockers that payed out on him for only being here because of Daddy. Shows the differance a new car makes. Seeing as the new tyre lasts longer than predicted, this should be the new control tyre next year and make a stickier one as a sprint tyre that does go of like it should, to promote passing. The racing is a lot better for the tyres. Bout time the dark side had a win. Thomas should be happy :D

[pitcrew]

Thats the general with no parent company and it's about to be sold overseas
Yeah it's said (ABC story).
But as we haven't had a win for a while we will just have a happy moment :party3:, lets see how they go tomorrow good luck to GT & Will and to the rest of the Generals..

[T888]

Perhaps, but neither driver ran off the track intentionally - so on that grounds does any driver who runs off the track deserve a penalty? Richards has been going off on that turn in every session - it was just his luck that he didn't get stuck.

[bills]

Finally holden win great stuff GT and HRT man ingall was fast.

[group C]

so your saying that G.Tander didn't deserve poll??
you play/race/qualify with what your given so Tander had an advantage well so does everyone who is 10Th coming into the shoot out(how many have come from 10Th in shoot out to putting it on pole???the answer might crush your conspiracy)
He won the race and deserved to! Ingall got the short straw in traffic but if not traffic he still had to pass Tander would of been a good last couple of laps.
As I said, if don't qualify 1st in 2nd qualifying, aim for 10th! Then you get pole the same way Tander did.

Barnart - they were running bolts in the splitter? That must be goving them some kind of advantage! I'd bet the Ford teams arn't low enough to complain abour it though.

[T888]

so your saying that G.Tander didn't deserve poll??
you play/race/qualify with what your given so Tander had an advantage well so does everyone who is 10Th coming into the shoot out(how many have come from 10Th in shoot out to putting it on pole???the answer might crush your conspiracy)
He won the race and deserved to! Ingall got the short straw in traffic but if not traffic he still had to pass Tander would of been a good last couple of laps.

What I am saying is that Tander would not so likely be on pole if all tire temps were even. He raced well - and deserved the win. What I am saying is if the qualifying system were equal I doubt he would have done it so easily.
I am not knocking his driving ability in any way, just saying he took an unfair advantage with aided his victory.

[Brasha]

What I am saying is that Tander would not so likely be on pole if all tire temps were even. He raced well - and deserved the win. What I am saying is if the qualifying system were equal I doubt he would have done it so easily.
I am not knocking his driving ability in any way, just saying he took an unfair advantage with aided his victory.


I totally agree.

He was damn lucky to make the top 10 in the first place.

Having said that.........................

What sort of drugs was Whincup on today?????????

How did he forget that there is a left hand ruen at the end of pitlane, and how many times did he run off the track, or run wide not just in the race but qualifying as well???

Not the sort of performance we have seen from him over the past few years.

[T888]

Having the sprint tyres on a cold track is new to the drivers, so much less grip than they're used to. Can't expect him to be up the top all the time - it's not as if Tander's been anything special until this round...

[minh427]

Whats with Steven Richards Qualifying. Whos idea was it to qualify on brand new rear tyres and knowing that it takes more than a lap to get them up to temperature.

[pitcrew]

hope they do it again :D

[Holdennumber1]

In the words of Shane Crawford, "Thats what I'm talkin about!":DFinally, a Holden win in a ford (or should I say Hogg) dominated season.
My Brief Rap up: Ingall was really unlucky with all that lapped traffic getting in between him and Tander at crucial stages of the race. Didn't see much of Whincup, but he was crap. Davison and McConville both had good races and Steven Richards must be annoyed at his pitcrew.
As for the race, it was great to see something different and a Holden team get a win. I didn't really find the early stages that interesting, but the end was a bit of a nail biter.
Anyway, I'd be saying I'm looking forward to tommorrows race right about now, but I know I won't as its on at 10:30pm.:mad: Bloody channel 7!
Cheers,:)
Thomas

[Rob]

Whats with Steven Richards Qualifying. Whos idea was it to qualify on brand new rear tyres and knowing that it takes more than a lap to get them up to temperature.

Whincup did the same did he not??

[ratster70]

As I said, if don't qualify 1st in 2nd qualifying, aim for 10th! Then you get pole the same way Tander did.

Barnart - they were running bolts in the splitter? That must be goving them some kind of advantage! I'd bet the Ford teams arn't low enough to complain abour it though.


BWAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA sorry T888 yours is the post im gunna quote on here yes i grant you that it is holden teams that are pushing the splittergate protest now but it was a ford team that lodged the initial complaints about the T8 splitters and that was from CL's mouth at a recent signing session so in your words ford teams are low enough to complain thankyou and as far as im concerned about the whole splitter matter is if it saves costs let them run with them the stats show they give no performance benefit gains so good on em for finding a cost cutting method

[Skaife fan]

Finally a win , hats off to G.T and Ingall it was a great battle to the end. Another lap and it could have been different.

[steelo]

fair enough tander won fair and square,and to rusty a fine second,so congrats all round.Good to see a jim beam car up there too so a fine third to steve.But still a long season ahead and t888 will be back.who said v8 supercars were boring.

[HrtTassieFan]

Yeah what a race Lovin the Tander's win today although i reckon Rusty would've nearly had him but as he said in the post race interview Holden needed the win so he wouldn't have pushed Tander too hard or make a dive to pass, Really sensible stuff from Russell

[inter]

good race,

I am a little bemused at the lack of respect drives have towarsd others while being lapped. Ingall was unluky and In my opinion the guilty drivers should be punished.
How to stuff up an exiting finish.:mad:

[Oh Five]

If If If :snore:

[inter]

If If If :snore:






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[smokey_dj]

ric i think hes commenting on ppl playing the what if game

[Oh Five]

Yes ewe no me 2 well smoko:)
Not directed at you Ric.

[HRT 1-2]

I actually think that giving them a smack in the head for this was not such a bad thing. My logic is their error ruined many drivers laps and so they deserve some form of penalty. Does the penalty fit the crime, I doubt so, which is why I think it would of been fairer for both of those drivers to have simply lost their fastest lap to that point for causing the red flag & then been allowed to rejoin the session when it was restarted.

I can see why this has been implemented, not sure if I totally agree with it but, a sceptic could say that forcing an early finish to the session when you're safe inside the top 10 could well happen!!;)

Great work Tander!!:D

[spiderken17]

Tander did well, got a bit lucky with the lapped traffic slowing Ingall down because he had a heap more pace. I reckon he would have had him had the lapped cars not got in the way. How about "The Dude"? Brilliant idea with changing the working tyres around. Shame Rusty didn't get the win out of it because you can only use that trick once, now everyone knows about it.
I am a fan of Toddler but he really didn't give JC any racing room running down the back straight. JC had nowhere to go and Todd had a heap of track on his right. Dissapointing, since Todd's usually not one to mess with other cars.
Said it before and I'll say it again, Stevie J is really showing what he can do with the right equipment under him, great to see.
Also, FPR's strategy with Richo was well planned and would have probably got him 3rd (i reckon he would have got Stevie J) if only the pit stop wasn't stuffed up. There will be some red faces in the FPR garage for that.
All in all, a pretty good race, the sprint tyre seems to be doing its thing, bring on race 2.

[bills]

when ingall came out of the pits gt had a 3 second gap and then the slower cars made him lose that gap so i say that the cars who are about to get lapped get a blue flag so that it doesnt hold up the leading cars.

[spiderken17]

when ingall came out of the pits gt had a 3 second gap and then the slower cars made him lose that gap so i say that the cars who are about to get lapped get a blue flag so that it doesnt hold up the leading cars.

Yeah thats the idea, but the lapped cars dont know straight away who is behind them. Remember that they have helmets, the HANS device and wings on the seat, so their rear visibility isn't great. They're not going to let anyone pass until they're sure. I reckon the teams need to get onto the radio's earlier to tell them a faster car(or 2) is coming through. A couple of times GT was let through but then the gap closed before Rusty got through, probably shouldn't have happened. Anyway, thats racing, its never going to be perfect.

[minh427]

i missed the start, what happened to Tander?

[spiderken17]

i missed the start, what happened to Tander?

me too. what happened in general? why are all the cars so banged up? objective descriptions please.

[Road Runner 72]

tyre forced tandar in for a 2nd stop.

[Road Runner 72]

Cars banged up due to hairpin.

[VE II]

Great racing so far. And good to see a mixing up of the leaders, little prangs, and passing. Lets hope the next 40 laps are as good.

[barnart]

Why not waste tax payers money again and build a wank wank street circuit.
V8 Supercar drivers have called on the custodians of Tasmania’s Symmons Plains Raceway to extend the track and improve its safety levels.
Sprint Gas Racing’s Greg Murphy and Garry Rogers Motorsport’s Lee Holdsworth have been the most vocal on the safety issues.
The drivers’ biggest concern is the earth-filled tyre barriers on the back straight.
“The earth-filled tyre bank scenario is a thing of the past,” Murphy said.
“That was a safety system back in the ’60s and ’80s.

[Kashmir]

James Courtney causes a crash,can't say I'm surprised.

[VE II]

Kelly was doing really well - up in 4th too at the time. Feel sorry for Murphy. Him and Richards have a good mid pack battle or day - shame to see it end.
Great to see brighty up the front.

I feel that it'll be a very insane final few laps.

[spiderken17]

James Courtney causes a crash,can't say I'm surprised.

What race were you watching? it was pretty obvious Wood turned in on him. He was well up the side of his car and even Skaife said that "you (Wood) just can't do that".

[minh427]

Yep, Courtney was well up the inside and Wood turn into him.

[spoonster05]

Kelly was doing really well - up in 4th too at the time. Feel sorry for Murphy. Him and Richards have a good mid pack battle or day - shame to see it end.
Great to see brighty up the front.

I feel that it'll be a very insane final few laps.

Was a shame that the battle ended the way it did as both would have finished well inside the top ten

[Kashmir]

What race were you watching? it was pretty obvious Wood turned in on him. He was well up the side of his car and even Skaife said that "you (Wood) just can't do that".

I worded it wrong I meant "Courtney was involved in a crash,can't say I'm surprised" perhaps it's Karma as he has taken out many drivers previously.

[spiderken17]

Lapped traffic really needs to be addressed. I'm pretty sure Coultard would have got Davo and maybe Whincup as well if Dumbrell had got out of the way earlier. After that and what happened to Rusty yesterday the results really could have gone the way of some drivers who could use a win much more than the "regulars".

[pitcrew]

What a good race that was, regardless of the result. well done to the winner.
Another good race Will. It had a bit of everything in that race which is good to see.
Great entertainment.
Cheers

[grease]

Is the Autobahn entry (#10 Paul Dumbrel) part of uncle tom's team?

[Kashmir]

Is the Autobahn entry (#10 Paul Dumbrel) part of uncle tom's team?

Yep it is.

[grease]

How convenient, dont move over for a blue flag Paul so Fabian Coulthard could not have a run at Will, is that uncle tom's doing?

[ratster70]

BWAHAHAHAHAHHA how funny was the last interview with murph guessin richo an winterblurter arent his mates anymore and i cant say i blame him pretty average driving at the end by both who are supposedly senior very qualified drivers but oh well i guess thats racing :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[singer]

What race were you watching? it was pretty obvious Wood turned in on him. He was well up the side of his car and even Skaife said that "you (Wood) just can't do that".

IIRC Skaife also said that you can't race 2 Cars in the part of the Track.

As Wood was in front of JC just prior to the Corner its possible that they both could 've avoided the Accident, I didn't see any sort of Backout from JC though I did see Wood going wide into the entry of the Corner. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) comes of it.

IMHO, JC both last year & to the present this year has not been consistently Quick, without bending his Car or someone elses Car:(

[ratster70]

IIRC Skaife also said that you can't race 2 Cars in the part of the Track.

As Wood was in front of JC just prior to the Corner its possible that they both could 've avoided the Accident, I didn't see any sort of Backout from JC though I did see Wood going wide into the entry of the Corner. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) comes of it.

IMHO, JC both last year & to the present this year has not been consistently Quick, without bending his Car or someone elses Car:(

yeah i agree i cant believe everyone bagging out dale woods on that they both shouldve yielded better at that part of the track IMO i didnt see woods turn in at all he was driving his line as was courtney and the tyres rubbed causing courtney to spear around and of track i dont believe anything will be done racing incident is all it was but knows people will disagree:D

[spiderken17]

IIRC Skaife also said that you can't race 2 Cars in the part of the Track.

As Wood was in front of JC just prior to the Corner its possible that they both could 've avoided the Accident, I didn't see any sort of Backout from JC though I did see Wood going wide into the entry of the Corner. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) comes of it.

IMHO, JC both last year & to the present this year has not been consistently Quick, without bending his Car or someone elses Car:(

I'll admit that JC can be reckless sometimes (Clipsal last year for one) but i really think Wood should have let him go. JC's car was hit in the RH rear wheel by Wood's LH front, meaning he was well and truly past Wood's car. Wood should have backed out by then. I don't think anything will be done about it and to be honest, I don't think there needs to be. It wasn't anything malicious just silly driving.

[HQGTS74]

Sorry, who won Race 2? Only saw half the race:o

Chris

[spiderken17]

Sorry, who won Race 2? Only saw half the race:o

Chris
Have a wild guess!:D

[El Cheapo]

IIRC Skaife also said that you can't race 2 Cars in the part of the Track.

As Wood was in front of JC just prior to the Corner its possible that they both could 've avoided the Accident, I didn't see any sort of Backout from JC though I did see Wood going wide into the entry of the Corner. It will be interesting to see what (if anything) comes of it.

IMHO, JC both last year & to the present this year has not been consistently Quick, without bending his Car or someone elses Car:(

JC was ahead of Wood though when the contact was made (Courtneys rear to Woods front wheel), and it can be assumed that the car that is in front is expecting the car behind to ease off, rather than the opposite. Dale's still a rookie to the category though, so the odd mistake should be expected.

Great run by PMM and PCR. Dumbrell and/or Walkinshaw racing should be given a warning (at least) though for testing the boudaries for their own benefit. Coulthard would certainly have had 2nd in the bag at least if he had gone through.

Good run by Bright too. Pity for Murph, although he seems to be a bit more upbeat this weekend. Maybe results are just around the corner..

Chalk another win for Whinners :)

[singer]

JC was ahead of Wood though when the contact was made (Courtneys rear to Woods front wheel), and it can be assumed that the car that is in front is expecting the car behind to ease off, rather than the opposite. Dale's still a rookie to the category though, so the odd mistake should be expected.

Great run by PMM and PCR. Dumbrell and/or Walkinshaw racing should be given a warning (at least) though for testing the boudaries for their own benefit. Coulthard would certainly have had 2nd in the bag at least if he had gone through.

Good run by Bright too. Pity for Murph, although he seems to be a bit more upbeat this weekend. Maybe results are just around the corner..

Chalk another win for Whinners :)

Matt,

I'm no Race driver however, as far as I could tell Wood was on the outside of the Track (without going for an off track excursion) & JC late braked into the corner & Wood had no where to go except off track & I think we all saw what can happen when someone does that.

Dammned if you do & Dammned if you don't. A No Win situation

[Rob]

I'll admit that JC can be reckless sometimes (Clipsal last year for one) but i really think Wood should have let him go. JC's car was hit in the RH rear wheel by Wood's LH front, meaning he was well and truly past Wood's car. Wood should have backed out by then. I don't think anything will be done about it and to be honest, I don't think there needs to be. It wasn't anything malicious just silly driving.

Yes but that was after JC rubbed mirrors with Dale first. Dale ran a little wide and maybe
the rear caught the ripple strip and after the contact with JC pitched him into JC's rear???

The driver who gets turned around always blames the guy from behind and the other guy
always defends and says he pushed me wide etc. There's always two versions to every event.
So who's fault was it?? I wasn't there so who really ever knows.

[HQGTS74]

Have a wild guess!:D

ohhh not again:(:(

[supa-roo]

ohhh not again:(:(

I'ts gotta be the splitter :p

[malscar]

Skaife summed the Courtney/Wood accident quite easily. All Dale had to do was back out of it. Lots of room to his right before running out of road. I would say that Dale just was not looking.

[El Cheapo]

Matt,

I'm no Race driver however, as far as I could tell Wood was on the outside of the Track (without going for an off track excursion) & JC late braked into the corner & Wood had no where to go except off track & I think we all saw what can happen when someone does that.

Dammned if you do & Dammned if you don't. A No Win situation

Neither am I. Just using some good ol' fashion common sense ;)

Wood went wide at the turn at the end of the straight (what Skaife or Cromley said), which put him in an already bad position. It wouldn't have been all that hard for him to have simply eased off. Although it's all done anyway, and to be honest I'm not the biggest fan of JC anyways :p

Also, what do people think of Aaron Noonans commentary? Noonan vs White..

[VXfan]

Pathetic driving from Steve Richards,the guy is a grade-A moron.How he gets a factory drive is beyond me......
Cheers,
Tony.
P.S. Nice to see he has been consulting the smiling assassin regarding the nudge,nudge,shunt overtaking manouvre..:rolleyes:

[HRT-222]

yea i agree VXfan, i reckon both FPR cars were doing stupid things as winterbottom was also pushing people out of the way like tim slade i think it was at turn 4

[Holdennumber1]

So, what happened guys? Its not on in SA till bloody 10:30 and I really can't be bothered waiting until tommorrow to watch the race.:mad::(
Whincup was 1st right? Who was second and whats the championship looking like?
I Haaaaate channel 7!!!!

[VE II]

Hey Thomas, and others

- race highlights.

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/content/videos/video _index/latest/

2nd one down - "race 8 highlights"

[Skaife fan]

Sounds like it was an interesting race , spew'n Seven didn't show it here. :mad:

[Holdennumber1]

Hey Thomas, and others

- race highlights.

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/content/videos/video _index/latest/

2nd one down - "race 8 highlights" Lol, for some reason, my computer won't allow it to play properly and I can only listen to the commentary.:(
So, it was Whincup 1st and Davison second then?
Cheers,
Thomas

[Holdennumber1]

Sounds like it was an interesting race , spew'n Seven didn't show it here. :mad: They will show it, just at 10:30 tonight.:mad:

[ratster70]

i think seven has got a bit to answer for in quite a few issues like todays start of race they show them get off the line then switch to a camera inside whincup's car before theyve even made the first turn in which you couldnt see **** then after turn 3 they go back to the rest of the field so we didnt even know who was leading the race from the start while i feel its better than channel 10's coverage it still needs improving :(

[barnart]

They said lets stay with James as he was on a quick Q lap and then went to a break. Gee their good

[steelo]

im a ford fan but i have to agree with greg murphy.Full amatuer stuff from steve richards.murph is right hes got the talent but dosent seem to think it out right.Cheers to whincup whats not to like about him still along way to go but looking good so far.Dont despair holden fans sure another win is just around the corner davidson is doing ok.And no i dont think he is a traitor.I think fabian coulthard is emerging as a big talent exciting times ahead for him.

[bills]

what about lowndes in qualifying he went off about 3 or 4 times.:confused::confused: also great race, shame for rick and todd they could of been on the podium. did anyone see when dick johnson moved the tyre out of the fast lane? lol!

[pitcrew]

what about lowndes in qualifying he went off about 3 or 4 times.:confused::confused: also great race, shame for rick and todd they could of been on the podium. did anyone see when dick johnson moved the tyre out of the fast lane? lol!
I thought I heard them say he got a fine for doing that. Anyone else hear that.

[wazza002]

what about lowndes in qualifying he went off about 3 or 4 times.:confused::confused: also great race, shame for rick and todd they could of been on the podium. did anyone see when dick johnson moved the tyre out of the fast lane? lol!


Yeah and did they get a fined for that when dick grab the wheel having to many people in pit lane....???

[spiderken17]

Yeah and did they get a fined for that when dick grab the wheel having to many people in pit lane....???

What happened was the wheel came off and went into pit lane, so they would have got the drive through anyway, and coincidently at the same time, Dick was walking back from the pit wall and the saw the wheel and grabbed it to get it out of pit lane. He didn't actually go out and get it, it more came to him.:D
I dont have any problem with the drive through as rules are rules, but to fine them extra for too many people on the car seems a bit petty, Dick was just removing a danger from the pitlane, was he supposed to keep walking and let it roll past him?

[fordmad17]

im a ford fan but i have to agree with greg murphy.Full amatuer stuff from steve richards.murph is right hes got the talent but dosent seem to think it out right.Cheers to whincup whats not to like about him still along way to go but looking good so far.Dont despair holden fans sure another win is just around the corner davidson is doing ok.And no i dont think he is a traitor.I think fabian coulthard is emerging as a big talent exciting times ahead for him.

Have to agree there. Richards was abit of a tosser today

[wazza002]

What happened was the wheel came off and went into pit lane, so they would have got the drive through anyway, and coincidently at the same time, Dick was walking back from the pit wall and the saw the wheel and grabbed it to get it out of pit lane. He didn't actually go out and get it, it more came to him.:D
I dont have any problem with the drive through as rules are rules, but to fine them extra for too many people on the car seems a bit petty, Dick was just removing a danger from the pitlane, was he supposed to keep walking and let it roll past him?

No he did the right thing mate, but its a wonder they did get one if it was anyone else they would if you know what I mean mate

[MP4/22]

How long till Richards is fired by FPR all he has won in the last 3 years is the UGLY CAR awards.

[spiderken17]

How long till Richards is fired by FPR all he has won in the last 3 years is the UGLY CAR awards.

Bit harsh. Same could be said about many drivers (not the ugly car bit:)). There is 30 cars in the pack and there can only be one winner, Richo is a solid consistent driver (usually), don't know what happened to him this weekend, seemed a little agro behind the wheel. At least he gave Murph a legitimate reason to go off (and wasn't that great, gotta love that guy):D.

[El Cheapo]

How long till Richards is fired by FPR all he has won in the last 3 years is the UGLY CAR awards.

And the round at Hidden Valley last year. And pole at Hamilton last year :rolleyes:

[MP4/22]

Well i am looking for a Richards FPR car to make my collection even Better !!!!! :D

But its so hard to pick the worst one ??????

[El Cheapo]

Well i am looking for a Richards FPR car to make my collection even Better !!!!! :D

But its so hard to pick the worst one ??????

I thought the 07 car looked good :o

[Kashmir]

I thought the 07 car looked good :o

Crazy Kiwi's:laugh4:

[MP4/22]

I liked the bathurst 2007 car to bad it didnt win........ I would love to have a car that Hideously Ugly in with all my HRT cars!!!

[bills]

what about when he took out murphy man that was crazzzzzzyyyyy!!

[MP4/22]

If you Can't Win BIN......

[grease]

With the D.Johnson thing, if he let it go and it broke something he would have been the worst guy around, so he did the nice thing and got done for it. Where is the logicm, let it go next time Dick.

Did the Dude get finned or anything for his comments about the scrutineers on saturday after qualifying?

[steelo]

How long till Richards is fired by FPR all he has won in the last 3 years is the UGLY CAR awards.
Probably going a bit far there.Hey does anybody know if 888 is going to release the pink pig badges might replace the rear ford badge on our car would look quite cool i recon..lol:cool:

[T888]

Good work Whincup.
Also great job by Coulthard.
Shame on Dum-brell, Wood and S Richards - if they escape post race penalties my respect for the sport will weaken!

[smokey_dj]

Probably going a bit far there.Hey does anybody know if 888 is going to release the pink pig badges might replace the rear ford badge on our car would look quite cool i recon..lol:cool:

yes the hog has been approved for merchandise some time in the near future

[minh427]

K-Yd1DUvRpE

[ratster70]

hey guys can anyone tell me why the points for the championship changed overnight i cant find anything on it did someone get penalised or something from the weekend??
cheers
john

[malscar]

All here

http://www.cams.com.au/en/Media/News/V8%20Supercar %20Championship%20Symmons%20Plains%20Rnd%203.aspx

[ratster70]

Thanks malscar only place i didnt look BWAHAHAHAHA typical :D:D

[Oh Five]

If anyone is interested Radio SEN are talking motoring soon (symmons etc) its a regular segment on Mon nights, so chuck on the radio or

http://www.sportsentral.com/pro/main/main2.aspx

Right top corner

[inter]

Can the track be extended on the nothern side?
I have never been there?http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=symmons+plains&vps=1&jsv=160f&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=33.924368,54.580078&ie=UTF8&latlng=-41648288,147239199,4175265334284318279&ei=Jb8jSsynJY2mjgP4rr2sBQ&cd=1

It would be good if the track is a little bigger with out touching the hairpin and the back straight?

[brchi17]

I might be in the minority here, but I don't want to see the track layout altered. To me doing so removed some of the tracks character and uniqueness. Sure, they could look at some safety improvements, but I think have some variety like this short track is good for the series.

[Kashmir]

I quite like the current layout,It's short and fast flowing which contradicts most of the street circuits.

[david5]

Yes leave it alone, love it, fast & plenty of variety of corners & wide open spaces.

[HRT 1-2]

With the D.Johnson thing, if he let it go and it broke something he would have been the worst guy around, so he did the nice thing and got done for it. Where is the logicm, let it go next time Dick......



I haven't seen any thing official indicating that DJR were done for having too many people on the car!! The only official penalty was for the wheel rolling into the fast lane!!

[Donny05]

I don't really know where you could extend Symmons without wrecking what character of the track? I always thought it should of been extended out the end where they have built the pit garages, but too late for that now. It is fine for any other racing, it is just when you add compulsory fuel and tyre pitstops that makes it terrible to follow. I think the Symmons round races need to go back to 3 sprint races with ONE compulsory tyre change. For the average punter ( not in corporate tent ) It was absolutely hopeless trying to keep up with who was where in the race.

[awawaw]

Well, I had a ballD: When I wasnt racing I took some nice (amateur) shots. Got DJ to sign a couple of things and came home with the car still in one piece, which cant be said for some others!!
Im always slighty off the pace at Symmons so didnt drive that hard most of the time. Im currently 2nd in Targa B in the state series and so was being a bit tippy toey. Anyway, some blow-in in a Lambo got all the attention!! In the final race I pre planned once I fell off the pace I would try to entertain the crowd at turn 2 with some power sliding. Hope they enjoyed it.
www.jbr90.blogspot.com
Havent updated my site but I will.

[awawaw]

I don't really know where you could extend Symmons without wrecking what character of the track? I always thought it should of been extended out the end where they have built the pit garages, but too late for that now. It is fine for any other racing, it is just when you add compulsory fuel and tyre pitstops that makes it terrible to follow. I think the Symmons round races need to go back to 3 sprint races with ONE compulsory tyre change. For the average punter ( not in corporate tent ) It was absolutely hopeless trying to keep up with who was where in the race.

Who won!! Yes, I didnt know who was where either. I had to take a pic of the big screen to find out what lap it was and who was leading.
I also agree that the track is fine as it is. Nascar have short and long tracks, why do we need to have every track the same? I mean the cars are the same, lets not have evreything like that.
Im told us Targa boys were well recevied by the crowd (pity we wont be on telly) the crowd seemed to be watching anyway. lots of passing and variety.

[awawaw]

Couple of pics my GF took. Starting to slide in second one.

[firemansam]

I noticed there was a penalty handed out for refuelling without all four wheels being off the ground. Has this always been a rule because its the first of heard of it?

[HrtTassieFan]

awawaw the Targa class was awesome to watch and the variety was something i really haven't seen before either, If i'd known you were there i would've popped in and said g'day.
Hope your all back next year :)

[awawaw]

awawaw the Targa class was awesome to watch and the variety was something i really haven't seen before either, If i'd known you were there i would've popped in and said g'day.
Hope your all back next year :)

Yeah, im a friendly guy, you should of!!
It was a blast seeing myself on the big screen. v8tv wont be showing us on tv but we have been offered the footage (for a price of course)
At one point i was doing a lowndes and watching the big screen at the end of the top striaght but since there is a thing called a hair pin I had to stop LOL
Im going to post some of my incar on you tube when i get around to it.
there is a good chance we could be back next year, but we will have to wait and see.

part of an email i recieved today:
I want to take this opportunity to thank you all very much for the effort you put in to make the Targa Invitationals a success at the weekend. All the feedback we have received over the last couple of days has been extremely complimentary and the action on the track certainly pleased the spectators.

http://dcpgallery.com/main.php

[pitcrew]

Some very nice shots, especially the EH and the HQ's.
Cheers

[MOTIV8]

Just a couple of pics that I took from the weekend. As usual the hairpin never fails to show how much heat is generated into the front wheels..................
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Motiv8or/T asv8-4.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Motiv8or/T asv8-3.jpg

...and if the V8's are not blowin' flames like they used to, at least the Lambo didn't let us down. If you wanted to see where it was on the track at any one time all you had to do was look for this !!!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Motiv8or/T asv8-1.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x207/Motiv8or/T asv8-2.jpg

[wrxwrc]

I just love the flame-outs the Lambo's produce...Some of the shots of Kevin Weeks and Whitey's from TARGA were awesome!! Plus the sound....fantastic!!

[awawaw]

I just love the flame-outs the Lambo's produce...Some of the shots of Kevin Weeks and Whitey's from TARGA were awesome!! Plus the sound....fantastic!!

I nearly had the front of my car burned off a couple of times!! LOL

www.jbr90.blogspot.com

[awawaw]

Ive posted a short video so far
http://www.youtube.com/user/rockcliche