Close ups of Skaife 92 ATCC Nissan GTR

[HDT337]

Thought I would post a few close up pictures of some of the finer points / details of the new Nissan GTR Skaife 92 ATCC car.

First thing you notice when you have a look is the striking red colour, looks awsome, larger more detailed wheels, a few small but very well detailed parts including a tow hook on the front, and a air jack nozzle on the front and fresh air intake hoses for the cabin.

Looking under neath you will be amazed with air cooling hoses for the front and rear brakes and a great looking exhaust.

Looking under the bonnet, you will find a heap of detail to the engine and ancilleries, including strut brace bar, and cool looking turbo intake pipes and radiator.

I'm sue the inside if the boot is just as impressive, but the model has some transportation wire holding the boot closed and being a freinds car, I didnt want to remove this.

The interior detail is great with a swade leather look steering wheel, and a well detaled seat.

This model is based on the Autoart model where as the older GTR's were Kyosho models, and there realy is no comparison between the two, the newer clearly being a far better model.

Biante have done a very impressive job with this one just like they did with the Moffat RX7.

Take a bow Biante...

HDT337

[Mr K]

Thanks heaps HDT337. It's looks absolutely amazing. Very well detail too. I just totally love it. I cannot wait to get mine.

[MOTIV8]

Geez HDT337, no mucking around with the stickers, already on ;). I picked up two of them last night but unfortunately I am out of room in the cabinets but must say that I too am impressed with the car and will look good next to the Bathurst winner!!

[Chris Roche]

HDT337 - Many thanks for your posting of this. Is a great car, and we at Biante are very proud of the way the car has come out for you as collectors.

You think this is good, you should see the detail of the VL /VE /FG that are the way!

We want to make sure you feel like for your money you are getting the very best.

Chris

[VE II]

Looks awesome!!! I want australia post to hurry up!

Chris - looking fwd to the VL and v8supercars. Do we know roughly when we'll see them? Its great that you guys are also keeping the price down - its a big help.

[Chris Roche]

VL - #?? - Due out October for sure! VL - #?? - Due out December

V8 Supercars - all going well, 64th & 43rd will be ready for October - 1:18th to follow soon afterwards

[VE II]

Awesome news Chris! Cant wait!!!
I imagine the 08 cars will be out around the same time as well. Looking fwd to what you guys come up with.

[HDT337]

HDT337 - Many thanks for your posting of this. Is a great car, and we at Biante are very proud of the way the car has come out for you as collectors.

You think this is good, you should see the detail of the VL /VE /FG that are the way!

We want to make sure you feel like for your money you are getting the very best.

Chris

No worries Chris, credit where credits due, a mighty top job.

Now, with the VE, any chance you can do me a 60th Anniversary Bathurst car Chris, I missed out on one from the other mob. hint, hint, hint.

HDT337

[Kashmir]

VL - #?? - Due out October for sure! VL - #?? - Due out December

V8 Supercars - all going well, 64th & 43rd will be ready for October - 1:18th to follow soon afterwards

Thanks Chris,looking forward to my 1/43 Holdsworth first win:)

[basman]

HDT337 - Many thanks for your posting of this. Is a great car, and we at Biante are very proud of the way the car has come out for you as collectors.

You think this is good, you should see the detail of the VL /VE /FG that are the way!

We want to make sure you feel like for your money you are getting the very best.

Chris

What about the BF???

Definately can't wait!!! The detail and finish of the RX7 was most impressive and is right up there with the best. Even the much maligned VK Bathurst Winner was in my view a far superior model to the other one (except for the passenger seat harness - one thing I don't like as it did not appear on the real thing). I think the "tougher", exaggerated nose of the other version gave us the "rose coloured glasses" or "fuzzy" feeling about the most iconic aussie racer ever to grace the track (even if it were for three races). Whilst not absolutely perfect at the front (minor retooling of the bonnet and/or grill could achieve a perfect finish for future releases), I felt that it was far closer to the real thing and this version was far better detailed.

I only want a Moffat Rothmans VL to keep the #10 (or #05) company!!!!

[domstrama]

hey guys i picked up my gtr today (will post pics 2moro) is it true that numbers are now 708 instead of originally 1008 due to quality issues??? can someone confirm this?

[rayman]

hey guys i picked up my gtr today (will post pics 2moro) is it true that numbers are now 708 instead of originally 1008 due to quality issues??? can someone confirm this?
No there are 1008.

[Kashmir]

is it true that numbers are now 708 instead of originally 1008 due to quality issues???

Remember this isn't CC we are talking about:p

[domstrama]

funny that..... the guy from toyworld told me this..... so is this a white lie he was telling me?

[rayman]

Hmmmmm.

[Road Runner 72]

Sounds like it, but dont forget someone might of told him, & that is the key to it!

[domstrama]

all i know is that 300 were (destroyed) whether it's true or not i don't know. Perhaps some of the dealers are witholding some.... toyworld in act only (had) an allocation of 6.... some thing doesn't seem right

[edy]

or perhaps 50 boxes were crushed or fell off a back of a truck?

[malscar]

all i know is that 300 were (destroyed) whether it's true or not i don't know.


So Dom, you know300 were destroyed but not if it is true?

[turbopsi]

You think this is good, you should see the detail of the VL /VE /FG that are the way!

We want to make sure you feel like for your money you are getting the very best.

Chris

Hi Chris, do you plan on releasing any 1:18 888 Lowndes & Wincup Vodafone cars with the BF + FG run?
Cheers.

[brchi17]

Hi Chris, do you plan on releasing any 1:18 888 Lowndes & Wincup Vodafone cars with the BF + FG run?
Cheers.

atm T8 are linked to cc so in the short term you'd have to think the answer would be no

[turbopsi]

atm T8 are linked to cc so in the short term you'd have to think the answer would be no

Both my 2007 and 2008 Bathurst winners are with CC for repair. Would love to see what Biante could do with the T8 cars..

[malscar]

Must ask a silly question. The COA for my car is handwritten in blue ink, whereas the one Andrew picked up, is a stamp. Anyone have the same thing with their COA?

[My Element]

Must ask a silly question. The COA for my car is handwritten in blue ink, whereas the one Andrew picked up, is a stamp. Anyone have the same thing with their COA?

no mine is printed like the build number

[malscar]

Andrew was actually wondering if my COA (because the number is hand written) was like the vouchers in the Willy Wonker movie. This one wins me the Biante business:D:deal:

[Holdennumber1]

Hey guys. Just a quick question for the South Australian members. Has anyone recieved their 92 ATCC winner yet from an SA based retailer? I know everything comes late over here but I'm starting to get worried.:(Cheers,
Thomas

[My Element]

Hey guys. Just a quick question for the South Australian members. Has anyone recieved their 92 ATCC winner yet from an SA based retailer? I know everything comes late over here but I'm starting to get worried.:(Cheers,
Thomas

Yes. Got mine. Didn't see any at marion shopping centre or at West Lakes

[Holdennumber1]

Yes. Got mine Cheers for that.:)
Now I'm starting to get evern more worried. They've completly taken it off their website when they usually write sold out underneath.:confused::(

[HQGTS74]

If you don't get your car where you ordered Thomas, i know of a few stores which still have some in stock.

Chris

[rayman]

Must ask a silly question. The COA for my car is handwritten in blue ink, whereas the one Andrew picked up, is a stamp. Anyone have the same thing with their COA?
Both numbers or just one?

[Andrew]

Thanks Graham for posting up your pics of the car with offending signage added. What a difference it makes. I think the car is a beauty.

I picked up a Skaife 1992 ATCC winner yesterday and there are some points I noted after a quick look over it (while at the store). Please note that these are only things I've noticed after a brief check but not poring over the car in any detail for any length of time (in fact it is till screwed to the base of the clamshell box).

Box:
The box artwork is 'washed out' showing a real faint red colour of the car. I hope this does not deter potential purchasers because the car itself is very good.

Model:
The colour red is, in my opinion, too light. Graham's photos show it being slightly darker than it is in the metal (which is perfect) but holding it in front of me at the moment, the colour just seems too light. If it was any lighter in tone it would be approaching the upper orange range.

I know that finding the absolutely correct colour is extremely difficult. The Skaife/Richards VR is very dark red in comparison to this '92 ATTC car. I also acknowledge that there was a few years' difference in seasons which can explain that (darkened tones according to title sponsor Winfield's wishes). However, the red on the old '92 Bathurst winner is, in my opinion, the more accurate red. It is darker than this 92 Skaife ATCC model and lighter than the VR. After the best part of a decade studying these cars and poring over so many photos and seeing both the #1 and #2 in the metal (as well as sitting in the '92 Bathurst winner) a shade between these two seems to be the happy medium. However, I also acknowledge that, after spending so much time examining the Winfield GT-Rs in photos, videos and in the metal, that the tone does appear to lighten or darken dramatically depending on climactic conditions. Am I sounding like I'm taking this colour accuracy thing too seriously? Yeah probably, but I can also see the conundrum Biante faced when colour matching this car.

If you see the two images I have posted below, you will see how hard it is to determine whether the lighter or darker tone is correct:

Image 1 - in a studio:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/ajrichar/Sk yline%20GTR/Skaife-1.jpg

Image 2 - on the track in bright sunlight (Wanneroo to be exact - they ran cigarette warnings here and at Sandown only):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/ajrichar/Sk yline%20GTR/Skaife-2.jpg

In direct sunlight the red tone lightens a lot. Out of the sun, it looks darker.

The problem is that, sitting inside looking at the model Skaife 1992 ATCC winner in the metal, the colour is as it looks when the car is in direct sunlight. If I was to take this model outside in direct sunlight and photograph it, it would be too light. Oh well, c'est la vie...... It's only a model! :)

The small vents on the front pillars next to the side mirrors are an excellent detail item although sadly there is no piping inside to channel the air from those vents into the cabin like the 1:1 (Richard/Chris/Julian - I have interior pictures of all that piping and interior work if you ever need(ed) it) while there is also not enough internal wiring in the passenger side. Again, I have reference pictures.

One other small detail that was unfortunately incorrect is that the 'Skaife' name on the rear side window is in italics on this model. The 'Skaife' lettering on the real car is not italicised. Take a look at the image I have posted above (image 1). There appears to be a very slight tilt (almost imperceptible) but it is not italicised like the model shows. I can supply larger images for clarity if required.

In addition, the exhaust is also not correct in my opinion. I am almost certain that the cars ran as they are both today - with a slightly downward facing cylindrical pipe rather than the square box-like side-xiting 'muffler' on the model.

Certificate:
I am surprised Skaife didn't sign the certificates like Richards did for the 1991 winner. Also, as Mal noted, his certificate has a hand written number in blue pen where the printed number out of 1,008 would normally be. Does this mean he wins a prize by having a handwritten 'golden ticket' certificate? ;) Was this just where the printing machine had a hissy fit and needed the personal touch?

Does all this mean Biante have stuffed up with this model? Not on your life. Ultimately, the car is a cracker and as a rabid and obsessive Aussie GT-R fan, I have to give Biante massive kudos for taking a punt and making these cars. Being non-Ford, non-Holden, non-Bathurst and non-Brock, there is always a risk that the run won't sell but I think the limited nature of the production run and the inherent quality of these cars will see them sell well. I am really grateful for the opportunity to buy the ATTC cars and get them in the far superior and modern AUTOart mould. If anyone who is undecided about buying one reads this post, my advice to you is to go and get one. You will not be disappointed. While you're at it, slap down a pre-order for the #1 Richards ATCC car as well as they will make a terrific set together.

Some questions:

As Dom has stated, there is a rumour out of Super Toyworld Fyshwick that 300 units of this Skaife 1992 ATCC winner were destroyed due to production deficienceies, and they are stating that was the reason they did not get their full allocation of this car. Can Biante confirm or deny this? It doesn't make a lick of difference to me (ie. less car made, rarity factor, etc.) but would be good to know if it is misinformation, a genuine error or whether it is in fact true.

Secondly, I wouldn't mind having a few sets of the excellent wheels used on this and the GIO car. Biante have nailed the rims used on the Aussie Gibson Motorsport built GT-Rs (they were not used on any Japanese Group A car) and I'd like a few spare sets for dioramas etc in the future. Are any available for purchase?

[pwh_gtr]

Does anyone know if we'll see this model, or in fact any of the ATCC GTR's produced as 1/43s to go with the three 1/43 Bathurst winning GTR's?

[Andrew]

Does anyone know if we'll see this model, or in fact any of the ATCC GTR's produced as 1/43s to go with the three 1/43 Bathurst winning GTR's?

If so, I'd hope Biante only made them with HPI moulds. They are much better than even the new Ebbro mould.

[Road Runner 72]

I'll go the ebbro mold, my hpi is cracking up so to speak.

[Andrew]

I'll go the ebbro mold, my hpi is cracking up so to speak.

What do you mean? Are you having problems with the resin car?

[Road Runner 72]

Well being a thin white over resin, when I have a sunny day here and the sun shines on it a little you can see some small hair line cracks, but with a war painted car I see the would be unoticable, but yes you can get better lines with resin, but feels I will be sticking with diecast where I can, unless they made them in resin kit that one couldmake n paint as that's would be more rewarding.

[fordmad17]

Got mine today and I am very impressed with it

[onfire]

can biante staff shed some light on these so called 300 missing car's?

[halbster]

Can one of you skyline experts outline the steps required to code 3 this into a Bathurst winner. I have #2 on pre-order, but wonder if I should have ordered #1 - which would be better for this?

I'm sure I'm not alone in asking this question.

(nice pics by the way)

[1370]

This was a piggy back of the AUTOart JTCC cars, Andrew, so there was not going to be any big changes to the moulds or level of detail. The stick on bits perhaps, but not the main details.

Another case of poor-attention-to-detail like it, lump it or code 3 it.

[Chris Roche]

The missing 300 or so cars, is very simple to explain. At a time in point, we have to say what production numbers we would like to run with, with the success or failure of any models. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we get it wrong!

At first, we had a lot more on order with the factory, due to poor sales, slashed the numbers back to what happened to arrive! Due to previous models arriving and the amount of interest shown, sales grow to levels that showed maybe we should have ordered more! Well we didn't, so we had in fact to cut numbers back to stores.

Never an easy decision to make, but I am sure to those that have one, love it anyway!

[fordmad17]

Oh yes Chris, a very noice model indeed. A happy little camper here.

[HQGTS74]

So how many were made in the end?:p

Can't wait to get one! :)

[Chris Roche]

Not looking, 1008! I'm guessing, but feel thats correct

[fordmad17]

1008 is on the COA

[Road Runner 72]

Like some say the Brock lemans Porsche in 1:43 was not a full run mmmmm

[Chris Roche]

Can't comment on that as that was before my time if i am correct!

[Road Runner 72]

It's ok Chris I was scraching at old wounds is all, just wish some retalers would get the facts before talking, as there a now 3 different storys I have heard about the skyline.

Just happy to hear it from yourself, as I had two orders for the Skyline, one the be decaled with Winfield and one without as released, and my local gamesworld called me to break the bad news that my order will not be filled, but feels my other order should be fine, I only have one Richards car ordered so hoping all will be fine with that, I feel you understand where we are coming from sometimes.

[onfire]

chris how many richards 1992 will be made?

[HRT1]

jagged myself a skaife skyline. wasnt going to order one but after seeing the pics and reviews on here i got one from my normal outlet....happy now

[Andrew]

jagged myself a skaife skyline. wasnt going to order one but after seeing the pics and reviews on here i got one from my normal outlet....happy now

So are you happy with it?

[Chris Roche]

onfire - 1008 as well