Surfers Paradise A1 and v8's

[8hype]

Wondering if anyone is going.Unfortunately looks like i will be heading in by myself as dad is no longer with me and my missus is working.thought i would see who was going in this year might be able to meet up somewhere for a beer or two.

[group C]

will proberly look at going on sat or sunday matt will let ya know

[Chev_350]

Will be going all 4 days

[8hype]

i think at this stage i will be going saturday and sunday

[scoota]

yes i will be going all 4 days just pick up the race program & it looks like the v8 boys are take over the indy pits & a1gp boys are take the old v8 pits

[Bones]

What A1 race?

[biante1921]

What A1 race?


EXACTLY!!!!!!!!

[ratster70]

I'll definetly be there all 4 days volunteer as an official and this year i got lucky and i am working the pit gates this year so looking forward to it spewing the indy cars arent still here but alas it'll still be a great weekend :D

[Bones]

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!


Im glad some else no's what im talking about! :D

[njf015]

Working also. Sector marshal at turn 2. Near Red Rooster. Come say hi if you want. Ill be in black polo (all weekend...uniform)

[HRT-222]

does anyone know if the tickets are the same price at the gate as pre purchase.....i will be going Saturday but they want an extra $7,50 to collect them

[ratster70]

http://www.supergp.com/

Check the website im fairly certain pre purchase would be cheaper they usually are

[SWRT]

There is also meant to be an A1 GP pre-season test at Queensland Raceway, I'm not sure when it is though?

[david5]

There is also meant to be an A1 GP pre-season test at Queensland Raceway, I'm not sure when it is though?

This weekend if they turn up. It's all booked & paid for according to AA.

[Chev_350]

There is also meant to be an A1 GP pre-season test at Queensland Raceway, I'm not sure when it is though?

19th however, apparently the cars have to have side intrusion protection added before they hit the track and the cars are still sitting in a shed in London.

And, Brisbane airport hasn't recieved a booking for the plane that will be carriyng the cars...Yeah, they aint coming.

[david5]

Then the excrement is about to strike the rotary oscilating device.

[njf015]

19th at QR is correct but entry is via 'invite' only. If nothing booked from london...maybe they'll swim the cars over?? ;P

[david5]

Laz get your kart ready, I think they are going to need a replacement series.

http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2009/10/15/148 321_gold-coast-news.html?

[Bones]

19th however, apparently the cars have to have side intrusion protection added before they hit the track and the cars are still sitting in a shed in London.

And, Brisbane airport hasn't recieved a booking for the plane that will be carriyng the cars...Yeah, they aint coming.

Not true about the side intrusion protection, but you are right they are not coming down under! :rolleyes:

[Chev_350]

yes i will be going all 4 days just pick up the race program & it looks like the v8 boys are take over the indy pits & a1gp boys are take the old v8 pits

The A1GP pits havent been built yet either.....

[SWRT]

A good replacement for A1, for 2010 as its too late for a international one for 2009 could be -
Bring back the IRL Indycars
DTM
FIA GT Series
FIA WTCC Championship
GP2 Asia Series
Superleague Formula Series (the Formula cars in football team liveries)
Formula 2

[Chev_350]

I found last year with the Irl indycars was the most enjoyable Indy for some time, they need to get them back!

[beast]

Either Indycars or the WTCC for me. preferably the WTCC.

[grease]

Invite NASCAR over for a run here. Ambrose might win this one. Home track sort of thing, a lot of support for him in aus against other countries.

[inter]

Invite NASCAR over for a run here. Ambrose might win this one. Home track sort of thing, a lot of support for him in aus against other countries.


Not such a bad idea, good one

[Chev_350]

Invite NASCAR over for a run here. Ambrose might win this one. Home track sort of thing, a lot of support for him in aus against other countries.

As awesome as it would be, the NASCAR cars struggled to get around the track and they were bloody loud!

[wazza002]

I just heard on Ch 10 sport tonight, That there is only going to be the V8s only no indy car's At Surfers Paradise this year :mad:

cheers wazza

[onfire]

i also herd the qld gov is planning to sue a1gp if no car's arrive

[grease]

I think the nascars are carby and slightly larger engines.

That is 2 down now, Phillip island with no major support catogery and now this, I understand PI was a fill in for Bahrain but it is starting to look bad.

[david5]

Formula 5000 festival.

[8hype]

bring on the DTM

[12paul12]

Nascars (aus) did run at the first Indy. I remember Charlie O'Brien running out of brakes at ANA in the BP car.

[scoota]

if the a1gp cars do not show up & it to late to get a replacment for them why get the v8s to do the same foremat as they do at clipsal

[Chev_350]

V8 Supercars to replace scrapped event as A1GP cars fail to show

EXCLUSIVE: NEXT week's Gold Coast Super GP has been stripped of its showcase event, with red-faced organisers to confirm this afternoon that the A1GP race will be scrapped.

It is understood that the A1GP cars still remain locked up in London, forcing Gold Coast organisers to abandon the category and turn the event into a V8 Supercar only show.

Instead of the planned two 200km races, the V8 series will instead stage four 150km races - two on Saturday and two on Sunday.

Acting Premier Andrew Fraser said yesterday the State Government would take legal action against the A1GP organisers for "tarnishing the event".

[bills]

bring on the DTM

i would love to have the DTM here that would be mad!

[fordmad17]

600 ks of racing. So does the extra race count for the championship and I wonder if there will be 20 min qualifing sessions for each of the remaining races

[fordmad17]

I guess it will be 75 pts for the win for each race to make it up to the 300 for the weekend

[scoota]

no i would say 1 qualifing sessions for sat 2 races & 1 qualifing sessions for sun 2 races

[scoota]

will they be any cars on track on thursday or will they just trun it in to a 3 day program now

[edy]

no big loss for A1 GP.

it was always a joke.... now its confirmed....

stoopid QLD govt should have played ball with the IRL series cos everyone loved the event....

[Tumbo]

Qld gov tried to play ball w/ the IRL but due to agreements in place w/ V8SC and the requirement to shift the date it just wasn't possible for an arrangement to be sorted. End of the day IRL shafted Aust because it was easier to do that and because it became a question of contracts on both sides precluding anything other than a split occurring.

[Chev_350]

It has been nothing short of a utter joke.

Last year they said they had an extension for the IRL cars.....Turns out they didn't.

They signed Nitro to sponsor the event, Nitro didn't pay a cent.

And this whole deal with the A1GP,

Heads should roll for this, and hopefully the event does still have a future.

Tony George doesn't control the IRL, they should try and negotiate with them again.

[edy]

i remember the heydays at the Gold Coast Indy when there were Champ Cars and V8SCs.

The yanks loved the tintop cars.

Slowly it has declined....

Never know ,with QR being in danger of getting the boot and the future of the Indy track, QLD may only have Townsville left.

In my view, if it was QR or Indy, I would take Indy anyday!!!

[BB]

I wonder where this leaves Alan Jones because I think he invested pretty heavily in the concept of A1 GP?

[group C]

was a short interview on the news last night with Alan and he stated that he is very let down and it has cost him heaps!!!
I would of thought that he would of seen the writting on the wall long before it had happend...:confused:
I wonder where this leaves Alan Jones because I think he invested pretty heavily in the concept of A1 GP?

[Maq]

Will there be Fri night drags on this year?

[ratster70]

Heres the latest replacement for the A1's next week what a replacement is all i got to say

THE show must go on – and what a hell of a show it will be!

Not content on letting an A1GP-no show spoil the party at next week’s Nikon SuperGP on the Gold Coast, Queensland Minister for Sport, Phil Reeves, has headed a task force to create what will be an amazing celebration of Australian motorsport.

Some of Australia’s motorsport greats and the owners of some of Australia’s most prized motoring possessions have agreed to come together to mark the next phase of one of the world’s most spectacular motorsport festivals.

Some of the great names will include Dick Johnson, Kevin Bartlett, John “Rusty” French, Glenn Seton and Colin Bond and more will be announced in the coming days.

They will thrill the crowd at close to race speeds in machines that have been a part of Australian motorsport folklore for generations – loud, fast and sideways!

They will be driving a host of former championship and Bathurst-winning cars including Allan Moffat’s famous Coca-Cola Mustang, Norm Beechey’s Monaro, Ian “Pete” Geoghegan’s Super Falcon, Bartlett’s famous Channel 9 Camaro, Peter Brock’s A9X Torana, Iim Richard’s JPS 635 BMW, Glenn and Bo Seton’s Ford Capri and Johnson’s Tru Blue Falcon XD – all valued well in excess of $1 million each.

Johnson will be joined by his son Steve, who will also be competing in the four 150km V8 Supercar events on the streets of the Gold Coast, and will get the chance to have a drive of a couple of the cars that made his dad a household name in Australia.

On top of the new Muscle Car line-up, the event will also celebrate the 50th anniversary of the first of Sir Jack Brabham’s three Formula 1 world titles.

Brabham, his Le Mans-winning son Geoff and talented grandson Matthew, who are the number 1-2-3 ticket holders for the event, will join the group of legend drivers for special Saturday and Sunday afternoon parade laps.

A couple of Sir Jack’s open-wheel racers will cut a few laps and Matthew will be involved in a special re-enactment of his grandfathers inaugural 1959 championship victory in which he pushed his car over the line at Sebring in Florida to clinch the title.

The group of legendary touring cars and drivers will be on constant display in a free public pit area and there will be at least two autograph sessions during the weekend.

The entire group will share stories and swap tales during the gala ball at Conrad Jupiters on Friday night.

“We need to put the A1GP situation behind us, re-group and put on the best show possible for the fans and television viewers,” said Minister Reeves.

“In a very short period of time we have managed to secure some of the greatest names and cars in Australian motorsport history to compete on the streets of the Gold Coast next weekend.

“With some of these legendary cars and the magical V8 Supercars we have an amazing celebration of Australian motorsport.

“To have names like Johnson, Bartlett, Seton and Bond sitting in pit lane beside modern day heroes like Whincup, Tander, Lowndes and Ingall is going to be fantastic and more than a suitable replacement for the former category.

“When you add the tribute to Sir Jack and the involvement of the Brabham family you have something pretty special.”

Queensland motorsport legend Dick Johnson, said the “party must go on” and he could not think of a better way to add to his “home” event.
Johnson and his V8 Supercar driving son, Steve, have also been named joint grand marshals as part of today’s announcement.

“It is un-Australian to sit back and ***** and moan, we need to get on with it,” said Johnson.

“I think the Minister and his group needs to be congratulated for acting so fast to pull this fantastic group together after A1GP left the event in a very difficult situation.

“So many fans will have only seen pictures of some of these cars. For them to be able to see them in action and get up close to them will be something special and I cannot wait to get out there and have a blast around.”

The program has been put in place with the help of well-known Queensland-based car collector David Bowden and his sons Dan and Chris from Bowden’s own Car Care products, who will supply 10 of the proposed 12-car field.

“The Muscle Car era of Australian motorsport is something that runs deep with every Australian motorsport fan and we are delighted that the crowd on the Gold Coast will have the opportunity to get up close to some of these cars,” said David Bowden.

“As a Queensland family we are delighted to be in a position where we can work with the Minister and the event organisers to pull this together at short notice.

“They say everything is meant for a reason and hopefully this is the beginning of something special at the Gold Coast.”

Nikon SuperGP General Manager, Greg Hooton, said the newly announced four 150km V8 Supercar race format and the injection of the Australian Legends category would see the Gold Coast event keep its status as one of the world’s great celebrations of motorsport.
:D:D

[Maq]

Cool. Sounds great

[ratster70]

It was also just on channel 10 news apparently they are running 4 x 25 minute races although with what these cars are worth i would say they will be mock races but jesus who cares i cant wait to see and hear these legends and aussie car monsters fireing around the goldy track this for me is way better than any silly A1 cars :p:D

[pitcrew]

Sounds like you guys are in for one hell of weekend.
I wish I was going.
Cheers

[8hype]

you beauty.a9x brock.can't wait to see that!!!!!!!!

[malscar]

Sounds like the Bowdens have come to help rescue this event. The $1mil each tag is a bit rich though. Can you imagine paying that for the Capri as an example?

[Kashmir]

Sounds great,makes me wish I was going.

[1:43]

I know where I will be spending next weekend :D:D:D

[ratster70]

Sounds like the Bowdens have come to help rescue this event. The $1mil each tag is a bit rich though. Can you imagine paying that for the Capri as an example?

Also the drivers to malscar as it was reported on the news they are offering their appearances for nothing which is awesome and still more drivers to be confirmed yet ;):D

[scoota]

sounds great this going to mark it a great weekend

[bills]

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/motorsport/news/article/-/6232579/qld-minister-a1gp-farce

[david5]

Two things, 1. I think they have pulled the cat out of the bag, they will probably get a better spectator turn up for this than the A-1s.

2. I hope Channel 7 show the historic stuff & not ignore it because they haven't paid to be broadcast.

[1:43]

Channel 7 will have already commited to there programing (showing A1GP) (probably asked to be paid upfront as well) They will have to reschedule to fit in the 4 V8 races, but they should be left with air time for the historics.

Saturday 24th 11am - 5 pm

Sunday 25th 10am - 5pm

[VE II]

It'd be awesome if channel 7 did show it, but i reckon they'll probably just go to a filler of 3hrs of continous ads!;)

[SDK]

See that the amended time table is out.

Saturday has Top 10 shoot out followed by 2 X 150km races. Have to assume that there is 75 max points for each? Sunday there is qualifying followed by 2 X 150km races.

Can anyone confirm that there will be a CPS in each race? By my maths, they sould be able to do each race on a tank, yet will the cars have to take on fuel/tyres as a rule?

Also note that on TV we will be watching qual & race 1 & 3 delayed (if they in fact show us Sunday's qualifying) whilst races 2 & 4 should be live.

Lastly, will there be 4 podium presentations (12 surfboards) or just 1 for each day? Back to last years' possibilities I guess where a race winner may not end up on the podium.

Thanks for any info.

[VE II]

They were saying on news websites today, that only 4 ppl have requested a refund for the tickets (one being a corporate box), and apparently have actually had even more enquires now since the annoucments of the legend appearances and the extended v8 races.

[GOBBO]

woohoo cant wait to hear the roar of dick johnsons xd have some old footage and that old 351 clevo had the most awsome growl

[Goodwrench3]

woohoo cant wait to hear the roar of dick johnsons xd have some old footage and that old 351 clevo had the most awsome growl

Now you're talkin my sort of langage Friend!! Bring it on! There is no doubt the lack of A1GP is a bonus!!!

[Chev_350]

They were saying on news websites today, that only 4 ppl have requested a refund for the tickets (one being a corporate box), and apparently have actually had even more enquires now since the annoucments of the legend appearances and the extended v8 races.

AquaSP who had some alot of signage on one of the corners has had their logos removed from the track.

The corporate boxes look very minimal compared to years gone by, say what you will but the IndyCars bought out the big dollars

[VE II]

AquaSP who had some alot of signage on one of the corners has had their logos removed from the track.

The corporate boxes look very minimal compared to years gone by, say what you will but the IndyCars bought out the big dollars

The IndyCars were great - a highly professional outfit, fast, had a few succesful australian drivers and teams. They were and are a HUGE (and unncessary) loss.

A1GP was from left field. :(


I wonder if they could remove a few chicanes and get some form of nascar out there like suggested by someone? now that'd be cool.

[awawaw]

im getting chills just thinking about the legends. to see DJ, KB, BM etc take to the track in their old cars, well...can it get any better than that???

[SDK]

I wonder if they could remove a few chicanes and get some form of nascar out there like suggested by someone? now that'd be cool.

Anything other than the real deal would be mickey mouse stuff. NASCAR are to busy to get to Aus & Surfers is not really a good track for them anyway.

Motorsport enews has a story today on a possible future involving F3 including the possibility of some imports. Would be a shot in the arm for that category.

[Maq]

Will there be Fri night drags at the Super gp? I can not find any info

[8hype]

F3 would be pretty silly.how many people watch that.

[david5]

F3 would be pretty silly.how many people watch that.
Well not many cause it's not on TV, but I'd rather watch up & coming Aussie F3 drivers in real racing cars than lumbering Nascars fall over each other.

[8hype]

fair enough but why don't they get something that would be interesting.weren't the lemans cars and dtm cars interested in coming over except our government said no because they wanted open wheelers.

[awawaw]

It was also just on channel 10 news apparently they are running 4 x 25 minute races although with what these cars are worth i would say they will be mock races but jesus who cares i cant wait to see and hear these legends and aussie car monsters fireing around the goldy track this for me is way better than any silly A1 cars :p:D

I would agree, I dont think they will be out to damage them thats for sure. But even half pace will be so god damn cool I cant wait. I only hope they show them on telly, but im not holding my breathe for anything more than a few mintues.

[Chev_350]

Will there be Fri night drags at the Super gp? I can not find any info

Havent had drags for a couple of years now,

[Maq]

Cheers Bud.

[VE II]

Here's the race and point systems for this weekend.

- 2 races (1 saturday, 1 sunday) - both have 2 parts: A + B
- The winner of Part A of each race gets 75 Championship points
- AND - The winner of Part B also gets 75 points
- The Day’s winner is determined by the driver with the most points from the 2 combined parts (A + B)

Qualifying
- Top 10 Shootout on Saturday (for part A)
- 20-minute qualifying session on Sunday determines the grid order for the respective Part A races
- finishing positions from Part A sets the grid order for Part B.

Tyres
- 22 new Dunlop control tyres, 8 used control tyres, 12 wet weather tyres and 4 used tyres for the first practice session on Friday morning.

[GOBBO]

I would agree, I dont think they will be out to damage them thats for sure. But even half pace will be so god damn cool I cant wait. I only hope they show them on telly, but im not holding my breathe for anything more than a few mintues.

jeez i hope they put it on telly cause iam fairly sure there ratings would be there

[Holdennumber1]

Wait, I'm confused.:confused: So is there 4 races still or 2?
And if theres 2 races per day, how is a winner determined for each part? They can't do it on points if the 2 races combined are worth 75 points.:confused:

[VE II]

Wait, I'm confused.:confused: So is there 4 races still or 2?
And if theres 2 races per day, how is a winner determined for each part? They can't do it on points if the 2 races combined are worth 75 points.:confused:

lol.

Saturday - qualyfing via top 10 shoot out. There cars line up on the grid and race 150km. The winner gets 75 points. few hours later the cars line up on the grid again in the same position they finished and race for 150km. That winner gets 75 points.
Say Davison finishes 1st in the first part = 75 points
Whincup 2nd = 70? (making that number up)
2nd race:
Davison - 3rd = 65? (making that up)
Whincup - 1st = 75
Whincup wins the first day's racing on 145 points/150. - he wins "Race 1"

Next day - sunday, regular qualyifing - cars line up on grid, race 150km. start again in the afternoon from where they finished. Combine points from those 2 segments.

In the case of a tie of points (davison 1st, 2nd and whincup 2nd, 1st = 145 each (making that number up) - i assume the winner of the 2nd race is the overall winner like in previous years.

[smokey_dj]

hmmm matty

you werent just making all that up were you


:p

[tonynz]

I wonder what races we get on TV here in NZ.
I guess it does not matter as I will be in China.

[ratster70]

Jim Richards and Bob Morris have just been added to the legends race just keeps getting better:D

[fordmad17]

Is it a race, cause I keep hearing legends parade in the radio

[royaloaks]

I wonder what races we get on TV here in NZ.
I guess it does not matter as I will be in China. We will get 163 ads,(37 of Supercheap) news breaks and no podium presentations, and if we are really lucky might get to see some V8s flash past! No worries,I will be at the beach with my family and dog having fun. :)

[wayno]

Would be nice to see the legends cars get a real caning but with the nature of the circuit I can't see too many liberties being taken with these priceless cars.
And if many of the Bowden cars are involved then I dare say things will be taken very easy.

[tonynz]

Then they will cange to coverage to C4 and it is nearly un watchable on a big screen.
They gotta can those Supercheap ads.

[group C]

cant see them being driven in anger Drew,to many $$$$$$$ invested I think they will put on a good SHOW(and those that dont know any better would nt know the difference...




Is it a race, cause I keep hearing legends parade in the radio

[COA]

what are the tv times

[bills]

what are the tv times

i think 12-6 on sat and 11-6 and sunday.

[gab73]

What a bore fest, they had something similar at the AGP with the Brock VL and Johnson Sierra, the sierra & VL swapping positions lap after lap.

[My Element]

What a bore fest, they had something similar at the AGP with the Brock VL and Johnson Sierra, the sierra & VL swapping positions lap after lap.

yeah I remember that, Brock was in the VL and Johnson is the sierra, got it on DVD somewhere I think

[wrxwrc]

yeah I remember that, Brock was in the VL and Johnson is the sierra, got it on DVD somewhere I think

Fairly certain one Steven Johnson was driving the Sierra at one stage in the wet and hit the wall!!

[VE II]

This A1GP fallout seems to be quite good exposure for the V8's. It's been on the news every night this week + on all the news websites, as opposed to normally just getting a 30second segment after a race or so (if we're lucky).

[Mr K]

Will the legends cars be shown on tv?

[UNDFTD]

Will the legends cars be shown on tv?

i hope so, but seeing as though channel 7 have the TV rights, id say they'll just show the V8SC's and about 4 hours worth of ads.

[rex555]

Would be nice to see the legends cars get a real caning but with the nature of the circuit I can't see too many liberties being taken with these priceless cars.
And if many of the Bowden cars are involved then I dare say things will be taken very easy.

The second Clipsal they had the same thing. Matched the cars with the drivers. Moffat absolutely caned the Phase 3 on the first day but he was the only one. After that they were more in cruise mode, but it was worth being there for that one day.

[david5]

What a bore fest, they had something similar at the AGP with the Brock VL and Johnson Sierra, the sierra & VL swapping positions lap after lap.

Can't please everyone. At least they all won't look the same.

[Chev_350]

Good news for anyone wanting to buy supergp merchandise. Up to 40% off as it all says Nitro SuperGp

[Maq]

yeah I remember that, Brock was in the VL and Johnson is the sierra, got it on DVD somewhere I think

IT was both of the legends kids driving. they had to turn the boost right down on the sierra and it was good to watch

[Chev_350]

Omg the moffatt trans am mustang sounds so good. Jimmy is giving it in the BMW, no race they are just doing laps.

[Chev_350]

And a snapped gear shifter for the coke mustang

[david5]

Omg the moffatt trans am mustang sounds so good. Jimmy is giving it in the BMW, no race they are just doing laps.

Who is driving the Trans Am ?

[Chev_350]

Not sure, will post pics when I get home, I didn't know who he was.

[Chev_350]

this is what happened to the coke mustang.....I have no idea who the driver is.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3485/cokemustang. jpg

[ratster70]

Got some good shots today but im off to get some dinner so will hopefully post them before the weekends out of the legends including sir jack:D

[fordmad17]

How was the crowd today Rats. Was hopeing to go tomorrow but can't now..

[XR8]

Can someone pleeeaaaassssseeee get some video action of these machines?
It would be awesome to hear them without the annoying chatter of a TV presenter.

If they even make it to TV........

Ed :)

[Chev_350]

Thursday crowd is full of too many school kids

[gab73]

Can't please everyone. At least they all won't look the same.

Spot on. Not a fan of "Demo laps" at a race meeting.

[GOBBO]

i hope they get that mustang going again before the weekend

[Buffalo]

this is what happened to the coke mustang.....I have no idea who the driver is.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3485/cokemustang. jpg


That's forum member - Nedwob ! ... Better known for his exploits in a Mazda Miata :p

[VE II]

Winterbottom is apparantly quite sick. He's had tonisillitis all week, and now is in hospital after suffering an allergic reaction to his antibiotics.

[Buffalo]

Lotsa photo's here :

http://tools.goldcoast.com.au/photo-gallery/photo-gallery-view.php?category_id=9565&offset=1

[Maq]

Great link. Thanks heaps

[onfire]

i agree great link, and big thanks

[pitcrew]

Great link.
How good to see the old cars with some famous drivers.
Man I wish I was there.
Cheers

[PeteWalsh]

Lotsa photo's here :

http://tools.goldcoast.com.au/photo-gallery/photo-gallery-view.php?category_id=9565&offset=1

how much better is that than A1GP!!! :)

[AmonFan]

Lotsa photo's here :

http://tools.goldcoast.com.au/photo-gallery/photo-gallery-view.php?category_id=9565&offset=1

Just sad that it was revealed in the photo's that one of my childhood hero's was in fact a cheat, winning the 1965 Great Race in an obviously top secret Group C Spec Capri :(:confused::rolleyes:

[Buffalo]

A bit ahead of its time 'eh !!

[malscar]

Maybe Laz, that is why it apparently is worth over a $million according to the QLD Government speil.

[VE II]

Great link, thanks!

I like the spin that the QLD government has put on this weekend now - they are now claiming that it is better than the A1GP and that we have them to thank for their negotiation skills with the v8supercars... :rolleyes:

[david5]

Just sad that it was revealed in the photo's that one of my childhood hero's was in fact a cheat, winning the 1965 Great Race in an obviously top secret Group C Spec Capri :(:confused::rolleyes:

Wasn't his co-driver in Biggles squadran during the war ?? :rolleyes:

[SDK]

Did the second session have a red flag? If so presume someone hit a wall. Any details?
Note Bottle O did not record a time.

[VE II]

D'Alberto hit the wall.
This site is great - thanks William for the heads up
http://www.speedcafe.com.au/

[Maq]

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Some news Poached from a development driver on the club17 site(car 61) but now drives car 60








P2 - 10 mins to go
- JC in P1 (1:50.9680)
- SJ in P8 (1:51.4506)

3rd Red Flag of the Session!

Heard 'eleswhere':

Perkins and Bright had a head on at turn three after Perkins spun, both on way back to pits.

Holdsworth wiped the LHS off his Commodore- in pits.

D'Alberto was hard into the fence head first in T2 chicane practice A, not sure if it is back out.

#1 in the fence hard at T2 chicane. causing latest Red flag.

[HRT-222]

Any idea on how bad the damage is on whincups car......hitting the wall pretty hard at surfers will quite a bit of damage on the car......will he be right to go for qualifying.

[Maq]

Thats all I know. I am packing my bags and going in half an hr. I am spending the weekend on a 32 foot Scarab 5.7ltr Mercruiser. MMMMMmmmmm (don johnson or baywatch boat)


Seeee yaaaaallllllllllllll later

[VE II]

qualifying is currently on - there is live streaming via the v8supercars website. ;)

[SDK]

Anymore confirmation on Whincup & his car?

[HRT1]

his qualified 2nd fastest it cant be too bad?

[SDK]

Yeh finally managed to see the footage. All OK I guess.

[HRT-222]

Ive heard from people that Race 19A and Race 20A will be non-championship races. Those two races will determine the grid position for the B races, this is what i have heard. Can anyone confirm this at all?

[fordmad17]

Your partly right HRT-222 . Points from both A and B races are added together to get a winner of the round of that day so to speak(race 19 and race 20) Results of the A races also deterine the grid for the B races. That what I have heard anyway

[singer]

Just sad that it was revealed in the photo's that one of my childhood hero's was in fact a cheat, winning the 1965 Great Race in an obviously top secret Group C Spec Capri :(:confused::rolleyes:



Maybe its the 1985 Class Winning Capri:p

[HRT-222]

Your partly right HRT-222 . Points from both A and B races are added together to get a winner of the round of that day so to speak(race 19 and race 20) Results of the A races also deterine the grid for the B races. That what I have heard anyway

Ok thanks fordmad17, that makes more sense than what i said previously, thanks for clearing that up

Cheers Josh

[UNDFTD]

Will the legends cars be shown on tv?

Yes they will Mr K, just checked the foxtel digital program, and it says that they will have the V8 supercars, mini challenge, and a parade of the legends cars Sunday 11am-6pm (NSW time)

[Mr K]

Yes they will Mr K, just checked the foxtel digital program, and it says that they will have the V8 supercars, mini challenge, and a parade of the legends cars Sunday 11am-6pm (NSW time)

Thanks UNDFTD, looking forward to it.

Cheers.

[AmonFan]

Maybe its the 1985 Class Winning Capri:p

That would be even rarer than a 1965 Bathurst Winning Capri :p

[singer]

That would be even rarer than a 1965 Bathurst Winning Capri :p
Touche:p;)

[malscar]

Jason Bright is such a muppet. Gets Ingall yesterday, Whincup today. Who next? Davo?

[Oh Five]

Someone had to fill the Dudes shoes this season Mal :D

[malscar]

Nah, thought that was Patrizi.

[beast]

That would be even rarer than a 1965 Bathurst Winning Capri :p

I was thinking the exact same thing. I believe the car is the Capri that was competed from 1982 to 1984.

[Holdennumber1]

Well done to Garth on the "race win.":) He won on his 150th championship start too. Not a bad one to watch I thought also. Plenty of action in the first race for sure.
And I bet the HRT boys are happy too, there aint a whole lot in the championship between Whincup and Davo now.
Cheers,:)
Thomas

P.S Bet Garry Rogers was happy after his two cars ran into each other.:rolleyes:

[pitcrew]

well done GT and crew.
Another HOLDEN victory.
A great race to watch, can't wait till tomorrow.
Cheers

[VE II]

The season's really turned around now hey. I remember at the start of it we were all whinging about whincup winning every race and that it was going to be a long boring season. Either all the other teams have caught up or Holden had a word to 888 to slow it down ;) (lol-jokes). It's definitly going to be an exciting end to the season - the last few years have been pretty close!
I hope Davison can come out on top... but that'll mean buying ANOTHER HRT car (tho im ok with that ;) :D.

[Oh Five]

Interesting to see if v8 Sportsbet pay up or not.
I placed a bet on tander for the "first race winner".
So i wonder if they class the first "leg" (frosty) as the race winner or GT:confused:

[Kashmir]

Woo hoo go HRT:D seems like HRT have a rocket shoved up their arse's cause they've been on fire lately,just need 1 or 2 more bad races for Whincup now:p Davo has really cut into the points lead!
Courtney hit the wall in the same spot in the top ten and in the race lmfao.

[VE II]

Interesting to see if v8 Sportsbet pay up or not.
I placed a bet on tander for the "first race winner".
So i wonder if they class the first "leg" (frosty) as the race winner or GT:confused:

If they had "first race" and "second race" but not 3rd and 4th, i think you may have got yourself some diecast money.
GT is classed as the winner despite ending on equal points with frosty as he won the final leg.
Its like the old days when they had round winners and the winner of the round if there was a tie, was the winner of the final race.

[wayno]

Does anyone else think the points gap of around 50 sounds ridiculous when they say the championship is close?
I'm starting to wonder if 888 have frozen development on the Falcon and are getting ready for next year.

[Oh Five]

Yeh mate, I understand GT is the Race 1 winner, which is what the bet was for "First race winner"
I just reckon they might class the first leg as the first race, which is technically wrong...isnt it??

[wazza]

Does anyone else think the points gap of around 50 sounds ridiculous when they say the championship is close?
I'm starting to wonder if 888 have frozen development on the Falcon and are getting ready for next year.

nah, they're just keeping the new boss happy :)

[HRT-222]

Well done GT, fantastic result. He was quick all the way through that race. Will is doing a fantastic job in both those races and now he is coming for the championship. Go Will !!!!!!

[Brasha]

Why are we calling these road circuit events "races"?????:confused:

The definition of race is "a contest of speed"

How can you have a genuine contest of speed when the only way to overtake another car is to dive up the inside of a kink in the road and hope the other guy gets out of your way.

On television, (when I wasn't asleep) I saw more overtaking on the highway outside the track than I did on the race track.

[minh427]

Why are we calling these road circuit events "races"?????:confused:

The definition of race is "a contest of speed"

How can you have a genuine contest of speed when the only way to overtake another car is to dive up the inside of a kink in the road and hope the other guy gets out of your way.

On television, (when I wasn't asleep) I saw more overtaking on the highway outside the track than I did on the race track.

There was a traffic jam parallel to the main straight:p;). And does any one know why its so hard to grab reverse gear?

[HRT-222]

There was a traffic jam parallel to the main straight. And does any one know why its so hard to grab reverse gear?

Minh427, i was actually asking myself the same question a few weeks back and sent V8 supercars and email and this is the response i got:

"If Drivers are still using the H pattern gearbox (all cars in the Fujitsu Series do) the Teams will often set up the gearing to allow for the best gear changes when going forward. This is turn does make it difficult to select reveres, which is used very little. However the rules do require that the driver must be able to select reverse when required to do so."

Hopefully this answers your question.

Cheers Josh

[MRFOON]

I would have thought winterbottom should get the race win considering he was on pole.Maybe starting positions should come into account when 2 drivers are on equal points.

[Kashmir]

and also combined with the fact that they're strapped into the seat pretty tight makes it all the more difficult to grab reverse.

[minh427]

Minh427, i was actually asking myself the same question a few weeks back and sent V8 supercars and email and this is the response i got:

"If Drivers are still using the H pattern gearbox (all cars in the Fujitsu Series do) the Teams will often set up the gearing to allow for the best gear changes when going forward. This is turn does make it difficult to select reveres, which is used very little. However the rules do require that the driver must be able to select reverse when required to do so."

Hopefully this answers your question.

Cheers Josh

Thanks for that. Because earlier James Courtney was trying to grab reverse and all you hear is grinding. And I think Crompo said so either roll the car forward or switch the engine off to grab reverse. Why do you need to switch the engine off?

[model_mad]

Thanks for that. Because earlier James Courtney was trying to grab reverse and all you hear is grinding. And I think Crompo said so either roll the car forward or switch the engine off to grab reverse. Why do you need to switch the engine off?
stops the gears spinning i think

[kts350]

Good to hear Tander won on the day didn't see race 1 and went to sleep after 5 min watching race 2 god damn that track is so friggin boring..

[grease]

That is true and even worse ch10 said something along the lines that Frosty won!

[grease]

Of course its hard to grab reverse, its so they dont slip it into reverse accidently, also making the tolerances of the reverse gear close and a limited space inside the gearbox and the limited use of reverse the teams make them a real low ratio to reduce size and weight of the boxes.

[12paul12]

Just watched a replay of race 2, was amazed how Frosty gave up the first corner to GT, even MS made a comment.

[fordmad17]

Its going to be a very interesting day today. Showers and storms are expected just after lunch and the chance of severe storms as well. Going to make race 2 anyones race

[wazza002]

Its going to be a very interesting day today. Showers and storms are expected just after lunch and the chance of severe storms as well. Going to make race 2 anyones race

Yeah, I don't think whincup will win but LoL:p:D Its Holden all the way;)LoL

[1:43]

Thanks for that. Because earlier James Courtney was trying to grab reverse and all you hear is grinding. And I think Crompo said so either roll the car forward or switch the engine off to grab reverse. Why do you need to switch the engine off?

stops the gears spinning i think


No syncro on reverse (like a road car) If the clutch isn't 100 percent then you need to go to plan B http://forums.biante.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gi f

[Oh Five]

Just as i thought:rolleyes:
V8bet class leg 1 as race 1:mad:. They told me they have had a number of calls over this:D

[Brasha]

Nice Driving Will!!!

[wazza002]

Jason Brags gets pole well done mate, It's Be a long time :D

[pitcrew]

Jason Brags gets pole well done mate, It's Be a long time :D
well done.
I think they said it was his second ever pole.
Good to see someone different on pole.
Cheers

[Holdennumber1]

Jason Brags gets pole well done mate, It's Be a long time :D How'd that happen Wazza?:eek: Any problem for the big teams like 888 and HRT? Geez, he'd be one of the least expected to ge pole.
BTW, I hate delayed telecasts.:mad: Qualifying hasn't even started here yet.

[wazza002]

well done.
I think they said it was his second ever pole.
Good to see someone different on pole.
Cheers

How'd that happen Wazza?:eek: Any problem for the big teams like 888 and HRT? Geez, he'd be one of the least expected to ge pole.
BTW, I hate delayed telecasts.:mad: Qualifying hasn't even started here yet.

Its been ten years when he got his first pole,He got a 1.49.9, I be jumping to good luck to him :D:D

[bills]

man what a lap by bargs well done should be a cracking race!

[bills]

y arent the lengends racing?

[wazza002]

Did you see Dicky say he was quicker in the old green tuff car then his son was in his car LoL :D

[awawaw]

LEGENDS!!!!!!!! holding back the tears....enter Green machine....tears. Wish they were going a tad faster, but good none the less.

Please someone post some photos of these cars!!

[fordmad17]

y arent the lengends racing?

It was always just a parade. How awesome was that, great stuff

[Kashmir]

Channel 7 you ****s,showing the mini challenge while the V8's are on:mad:

[malscar]

y arent the lengends racing?


Don't know if I was a owner of one of the cars that I would want my car racing between concrete blocks. Would hate to see any of these cars end their life as a crumpled beer can.

[awawaw]

Channel 7 you ****s,showing the mini challenge while the V8's are on:mad:

does it really matter? stop looking at live timming and enjoy whats on the telly!!

[Kashmir]

does it really matter? stop looking at live timming and enjoy whats on the telly!!

To me maybe:rolleyes:

[wazza002]

Is there any points for wining today or not, And if there is they have just added a race weekend to the hole year ;)

[bills]

Man thats unlucky for davo bloody winterbottom!

[1:18 scale]

Whincup into wall ( at lap 33 )and unable to finish.

[minh427]

Whincup into wall ( at lap 33 )and unable to finish.

??? not showing on 7 at the moment

[bills]

Whincup into wall ( at lap 33 )and unable to finish.

BSSSS!!!!!!! no way! im watchin the delayed telecast!!!

[Kashmir]

Whincup into wall ( at lap 33 )and unable to finish.

hahahahahahahahahahahaha not such a bad race for Davo then.
talk about him being lucky

[Kashmir]

what a **** call on Rick,man I feel for the guy.

[pitcrew]

Doh !
ch 7 is only up to lap 24
I think I'll stop reading this thread until the race is over.
Cheers

[fordmad17]

the rain is coming boys. 11ks from the track

[1:18 scale]

BSSSS!!!!!!! no way! im watchin the delayed telecast!!!
I,m in N.Z and i,ve just watched the end of the race. Jamie totally ****** up. Good thing is that Lowndes wins.

[VE II]

What happened to will davo early on-I missed it

[fordmad17]

hit the tyres in the esses and broke his steering

[fordmad17]

bent it i should say lost 3 laps

[VE II]

Thanks drew. Hope it rains for this afternoons! Go the giz! ;)

[bills]

man what another crazy race!

[awawaw]

what a **** call on Rick,man I feel for the guy.

even though i cant stand Rick, i agree. awful call that.
Whincup blaming lapped traffic?????? wrong call that.

[HQGTS74]

Unlucky Whincup:confused:

Chris

[wazza002]

Well,Well,Well, Not going to say anything. LoL :p:D

[malscar]

Whincup blaming lapped traffic?????? wrong call that.


He just admitted it was totally his fault and not the lapped(Holdsworth) traffic.

[fordmad17]

Only 400 pts back to Lowndes. It closing up big time

[Holdennumber1]

Bugger, its lap 28 here still but it aint looking good.
Sucks about Davison.:( If Frosty didn't hit the tyre bundle up, I don't think he would have got any damage.
And Rick was right, it is turning into the V8 super circus regarding black flags. The fuel pretty much stopped leaking out and like the commentators were saying, would stop all togther after a few more laps.:confused:

[Holdennumber1]

Wooohoo, so thats what happened to Whincup.:D Wonder what Lowndes was thinking when he went past him on the last lap to claim the race win. Bet Davison was beeming though.:)
So, did Jamie classify as a finisher?
Cheers,
Thomas

[Kashmir]

So, did Jamie classify as a finisher?

Nope DNF so a nice tally of 0 points to his name;):D

[wazza002]

Wooohoo, so thats what happened to Whincup.:D Wonder what Lowndes was thinking when he went past him on the last lap to claim the race win. Bet Davison was beeming though.:)
So, did Jamie classify as a finisher?
Cheers,
Thomas

Yes Thomas whincup had done 75% of the race, So he gets his points Mate;)

[El Cheapo]

Thanks drew. Hope it rains for this afternoons! Go the giz! ;)

So it was YOU who jinxed him!! :mad: :laugh4:

I reckon they should get rid of the tyre bundles at turn 1 and at the back of the circuit. 2 cars were taken out by them today after the car in front picked them up. Toss them and enforce the old laws from a few years back maybe.

BS for R Kelly definitely. Great driving by Lowndes though. He'll be hard to stop in the last one. Hoping that Frosty has something for him ;)

[Holdennumber1]

Nope DNF so a nice tally of 0 points to his name;):D Ah ok, cheers.:D The leaderboard at the end of the race had him ahead of Davison so I wasn't sure.
Its very good news for Holden fans anyway, and the best thing is that it was fully self inflicted for Jamie. No unfair play by any other drivers.:D
So, is it now safe to say the championship has closed up? Whats 20 point when you've been leading by hundreds previously.

[wazza002]

Nope DNF so a nice tally of 0 points to his name;):D

So he don't get any points then, Well what was skaife talking about then, When he said whincup did 75% of the race and he still gets points then :confused:;)

[fordmad17]

He should he finished 2 laps ahead of Davison

[VE II]

Lee Holdsworth was fined $2000 (but suspended till the end of the year) for wearing "inappropriate clothing"!
during the drivers introduction (not shown on tv) he was seen with his racegear taped to him!! - lol!

[Holdennumber1]

He should he finished 2 laps ahead of Davison But he didn't actually finish and thats the thing. Will Davison went across the finish line on the last lap where as Whincup didn't.
Sounds stupid but I reckon that might be why.

[Leigh]

To finish, you have to cross the start/finish line...

[malscar]

Here are your regs as per the V8 manual

D 13 FINISHING AND RESULTS
D 13.2 Classification
13.2.1 To be classified as a finisher, a Car must cross the finishing line on the Race Track
under its own power; either:
13.2.1.1 as the winner of the Race; or
13.2.1.2 after the winner has crossed the finishing line; and
13.2.1.3 must have covered at least seventy-five (75%) of the distance covered
by the winner.
13.2.2 If a Car, in traversing its last lap, takes more than twice the time of the winner’s
fastest lap time for the race, the Car will not be classified as a finisher.


Reading 13.2.1 , Jamie did not cross the finish line and therefore can not be classified as a finisher. Also if you then read 13.2.2 it would be questionable it Holdsworth would also be classified as he was slower than my daughter on her pushbike (which is slower than walking pace).

[fordmad17]

fair enough

[Kashmir]

He should he finished 2 laps ahead of Davison

But he didn't;)

[Footy]

Just been watching the Demonstration laps of the "real" cars on TV ...a big thanks to The Bowdens and all involved for bringing them out..:D:D:D

[minh427]

Is it me or was there a caption on the bottom that said "Russell & Gay Skaife" It appeared then quickly disappeared. lol

[bills]

Is it me or was there a caption on the bottom that said "Russell & Gay Skaife" It appeared then quickly disappeared. lol

Yea thats what i thought and also man that formula ford race was bloody great!!!!

[1:18 scale]

Race 20 / leg 2 just started on T.V in N.Z. Not a good start for lowndes.

[bills]

bloody lowndes he better get a penalty!

[wayno]

Re-establishing the grid? WTF?!?
So Lowndes could get a bad start, punt someone at the first chicane and then get pole back when the grid is re-established?
Bull **** amateur hour from V8 Supercar once again. :mad:

[gab73]

Re-establishing the grid? WTF?!?
So Lowndes could get a bad start, punt someone at the first chicane and then get pole back when the grid is re-established?
Bull **** amateur hour from V8 Supercar once again. :mad:

Totally agree. The precedent has been set now.
Will this happen at every race start from now on????.

[1:18 scale]

Theres now a big fiasco. They are putting all the cars back into there starting grid order. A lot of drivers that made places at the start, are not very happy.:rolleyes:

[Brasha]

As I have said before V8 Supercars are a complete joke!!

[Brasha]

bloody lowndes he better get a penalty!


He Did!!!!!!!!!

Straight back to the front!!!!!!:mad::mad:

[wayno]

Totally agree. The precedent has been set now.
Will this happen at every race start from now on????.

I'm just gobsmacked that this is happening. I'd love to know what mental pygmy thought this up.
Glad to hear Skaife giving his opinion quite forcibly as well. :cool:

[minh427]

So they re started the race in the order that they started with?

[wazza002]

This is a joke, BS racing from V8 Supercars,And lowndes should of got a drive through for what happen :mad:

Now theres a black flag for lowndes about time and what a mockery this is

[wayno]

Just waiting for a black flag for Lowndes.
I think it's inevitable.

[1:18 scale]

This is a joke, BS racing from V8 Supercars,And lowneds should of got a drive through for what happen :mad:
He has got a black flag

[minh427]

Lowndes just did.

[wazza002]

This is a joke, BS racing from V8 Supercars,And lowndes should of got a drive through for what happen :mad:

Now theres a black flag for lowndes about time and what a mockery this is


Thanks, like I just said :mad:

[1:18 scale]

Lowndes just did.
Yeah! For the start. Punting Ingall at the first hairpin. He,s just completed a drive thru.

[minh427]

Funny, v8 supercars comes to the rescue of A1 GP and yet they stuff it up what was almost a great weekend. Gotta feel sorry for Russell.

[malscar]

I'm just gobsmacked that this is happening. I'd love to know what mental pygmy thought this up.
Glad to hear Skaife giving his opinion quite forcibly as well. :cool:

I am with you Wayne. Someone needs to try and explain the reasoning behind this one.

The only thing they got right was the penalty for Lowndesy. The rest is a crock of poo.

[Kashmir]

What a load of ****,the series really is ****ed:mad:

[wazza002]

I'm just gobsmacked that this is happening. I'd love to know what mental pygmy thought this up.
Glad to hear Skaife giving his opinion quite forcibly as well. :cool:

I'm all so thing this as well wayno, and glad to see skaife saying something as well, And it needs to be looked at later :mad:

[VE II]

They should make a boxing ring out back for after the race. Let bargwana at whincup. Risky move and ruined 2 guys races (bargwana for second weekend in a row) while whincup got no damage.

[Kashmir]

What sort of a pass was Whincup trying to pull off????

[1:18 scale]

What sort of a pass was Whincup trying to pull off????
I think the V8 utes could pass better than that.

[bills]

stupid whincup! i think whincup is feeling the pressure thats y his making alot of bad moves.

[Holdennumber1]

Lets see if Whincup is penalised this time because he definately deserves to be. It was a stupid passing move and he caused two cars to get wrecked.:mad:
888 won't be popular among other teams over the next few weeks for sure (loved Paul Morris' comments:D).
BTW, that race start was a huge mess. Absolutely stupid rule!
Cheers,
Thomas

[HRT-222]

Whincup needs to be penalised for that inncident with bargwanna and s.richards. He was the one that hit bargwanna to then hit richards. He was the one who caused the accident so he needs some sort of penalty.

[kts350]

What a friggin joke dcup should have got a drive through but it seems he can do what he wants.. I heard the incident will be investigated after the race which usually means he will get a slap on the wrist..

[awawaw]

What a friggin joke dcup should have got a drive through but it seems he can do what he wants.. I heard the incident will be investigated after the race which usually means he will get a slap on the wrist..

considering Kelly got a drive through for a bit of fuel leaking which would of stopped on its own, Whincup gets nothing...so far... for wrecking 2 cars. Make sence of that!!!!

[bills]

reckon lowndes might get some friendly fire from ingall next round.

[VE II]

Congrats Winterbottom. Great to see him finally doing well this season.

[james]

Seems that the car with the number1 plate does not have the same penalty book as the rest of the field ,same yesterday with loose bodywork.hope bargs gets the chance to do the same before the end of the year.

[SWRT]

For next years event, to make it up to race fans for the QLD Governments stuff-up with A1 GP (didn't they know about the $$$ problems when they signed them up?), the 2010 Event should have the FIA World Touring Car Champion & GP2 Asia Series to have a "Triple Billing" for the event.
WTCC's have thier Macau event in a few weeks time, so the timing of the event makes sense, and GP2 Asia Series would fill the 'open wheeler' hole in the programme, and bring along with it a "F1 feel".
If GP2 Asia Series were on the bill, I'd bet $1000 that Red Bull would enter Daniel Riccardo in the race.

Now THAT'S an Surfers Street Race that I WOULD attend.