Sprint tyre

[biante1921]

Just wondering what members think about the use of the sprint tyre?
For me i dont like it,i reckon its wrong.
You stick a different tyre on & youre a world beater.
Yesty's race was all over as soon as Lowndes backed off on the first corner & let Whincup past.Yes i know its upto the teams when they use them.
Just doesnt seem right a tyre can decide a race.

[ratster70]

I do like it to a degree the part i dont like is how they only have it for the 1 race on a weekend so technically it makes it almost impossible to win both races. but in saying that its good to see some different winners it has its fors and againsts ;):rolleyes:

[El Cheapo]

After the big chain of sprint tyre-less races, this round seems a bit meh in comparison. I do like other names coming into contention, but at the same time it's hard to say they worked harder than everyone else to get there, because the tyre would make it a walk in the park. Plus it makes the racing harder to follow. Who's on tyres? Who's not? How effective are the sprint tyres he's on? What are the ones he's got left like? etc

I want winners ballast in the series :D

[LOWNDES 888]

I do like it to a degree the part i dont like is how they only have it for the 1 race on a weekend so technically it makes it almost impossible to win both races. but in saying that its good to see some different winners it has its fors and againsts ;):rolleyes:


Craig won both races at winton 1st time out :-) everybody is just catching up.... :-P

Roh

[VXfan]

Stupid sprint tyres,waste of time imho.
Damn near impossible to work out who is where on the track unless of course ur car #1 ......:rolleyes:

[wazza002]

Stupid sprint tyres,waste of time imho.
Damn near impossible to work out who is where on the track unless of course ur car #1 ......:rolleyes:

Its all in the fun of things VXfan LoL :D And to keep you on you feet or toes.......:p:D

[Holdennumber1]

I like them. They make the races more interesting and its good to see other guys running at the front like Dave Reynolds.
It just means there essentially 2 races going on in one. One race between the guys using the sprint tyres and a race between those who aren't.

[Oh Five]

Nup dont like it. Unless they can use a fresh set each race and not 1 set for whole weekend then forget it. Im not a very well educated boy, therefore lose track of who is where:o

[1:43]

Couple of points to consider

1) It makes it more important to think of tactics and if Saturdays race is worth the same amount of points as Sundays and the race is shorter, then run them Saturday for max points (JW).
2) On the other hand look at CL for the weekend. Not a bad effort on Sunday after having already run them on Saturday. Other people that had fresh ones for Sunday couldn't make them last as long.
3) Cochrane has said that sat and sun are two different races but then why do they not have specific tyres for each race???

[david5]

Back in the olden days, when people were allowed to actually race cars without someone trying to "spice things up", there was not only different compounds, there were different tyre manufacturers. Different tyres suited different applications, so it was not a given what was going to happen re tyre choice. Also different teams tuned their car to their tyres & so you had different things happening at different times.

The sprint tyre at least brings back some of this variation, which to me is a good thing.

I have to agree with the above point re the two seperate races should see two lots of tyre banks, can't have it both ways TC.

I think the rules should be tuned so the teams can spread their tyre banks anyway they see fit, ie all sprints or all control or any split they see fit & even be allowed to qualify on it, provided you start on it. Allow it at all non enduro rounds.

[bortall]

I think you have a control tyre or you don't.

One tyre for all - or a free for all.

[brchi17]

Just wondering what members think about the use of the sprint tyre?
For me i dont like it,i reckon its wrong.
You stick a different tyre on & youre a world beater.
Yesty's race was all over as soon as Lowndes backed off on the first corner & let Whincup past.Yes i know its upto the teams when they use them.
Just doesnt seem right a tyre can decide a race.

5 years+ ago I would of been joining your chorus against this. However in this current age when the series is entertainment 1st and pure racing 2nd, I believe it's a wonderful addition to the race. Agreed, it can make the racing a little contrived and artificial, however it gives lots of action on the track and at worst also gives the lesser cars a chance to shine and keep their sponsors happy...

I also think that giving the teams a choice of when and in which race they use their single set to be a master stroke as it allows those more tactical (thinking) and cleaver drivers to find that extra 10th or so that they may not have the finding to afford. If they were to give the teams a set for each race, then I believe it would nullify the whole purpose of the sprint tyre, which was to mix up the racing and give the crowd more passing on the track. As we've seen this weekend (& for most of the weekends when it's been used) the cream has risen to the top and so while it might make it a little harder for them, it also allows another element into the racing which surely can't be all that bad.

From a television point of view, it's certainly made the watching more interesting as there is a lot more passing. However, I would agree that it make knowing what is going on trackside almost impossible. That said, if VESA go ahead with their totem pole idea which they were talking about for 2010, then it could make things a little easier.

[gab73]

Back in the olden days, when people were allowed to actually race cars without someone trying to "spice things up", there was not only different compounds, there were different tyre manufacturers. Different tyres suited different applications, so it was not a given what was going to happen re tyre choice. Also different teams tuned their car to their tyres & so you had different things happening at different times.

The sprint tyre at least brings back some of this variation, which to me is a good thing.

I have to agree with the above point re the two seperate races should see two lots of tyre banks, can't have it both ways TC.

I think the rules should be tuned so the teams can spread their tyre banks anyway they see fit, ie all sprints or all control or any split they see fit & even be allowed to qualify on it, provided you start on it. Allow it at all non enduro rounds.
Totally agree with the above coments,i remember many people using different tyre manufacturers front to rear (DJ, Avons on the front, Dunlops on rear) and even different compound left to right .

[Chev_350]

Sprint tyre needs to be a tad softer IMO

[1370]

Well, they are all running around in identical cars where no one is allowed to be different, so lets just count our blessings that at least the tyres are different (at some rounds)...

Now for touring car racing with lots of actual ontrack passing, 1HD does a good job bringing the fight between Turkington and Giovanardi in the BTCC to our TVs...

[GSXR1]

I think the sprint tyre added quite a bit to the racing at Wanneroo. IMHO Wanneroo can sometimes produce quite processional, follow-the-leader type racing, but that certainly wasn't the case this weekend. Plenty of passing all the way down through the field due to a mixture of different strategies on when, how and for how long to use the sprint tyre. I found it interesting

It can be difficult to keep track of who's where in the Wanneroo races at the best of times, but I think that's more because it's such a relatively short lap, and it doesn't take long for backmarkers (or front-runners pitting for that matter) to go laps down - this has always been the case, long before the sprint tyre was introduced. I don't think having a single 200km race helped things in this regard either - two x 100km would have been better IMO

[AussieRyan]

Although it gives drivers a chance who wouldn't normally be upfront (Like David Reynolds yesterday) it can also make the results extremely predictable.

Whoever has the youngest set of sprint tyres 9 times out of 10 will win the race. Providing if they're in a good postition of course.

[hobby]

after watching the races from the fence line
i have to say the choice of tyre was a race winner
and it added a great feel to the races!:)
sort of slick against wet when the track is drying or soaked.
made the races more interesting as cars slid when they got low or added pace when new.

[bortall]

Does lots of passing make the racing better, or does good competition between drivers make it better????