View Full Version : Would you like to see Biante Make a FG Code 3
Chris Roche
06-01-2010, 01:01 PM
In listening and viewing to the forum, we see that the Ford fans are complaining that we don't make enough Fords! We would like your views and thoughts if we where to make in a very limited number a Code 3 of the 1977 Allan Moffat Bathurst car!
This giving you the latest tooling we have in the FG in something very different!
Its just a thought, but would welcome all feedback good and bad! If good, what other cars would you like to see being made, and bad, well all the bad points!
We look forward to your thoughts and views!
My Element
06-01-2010, 01:06 PM
yep, bring it on i reckon
i think it'd go well.... how many is a very limited number?
Maybe get some of the most iconic Ford liveries from the past & the greatest liveries & put them on a FG mould. I'd have to see a prototype before i thought about buying one though
Deeno
06-01-2010, 01:07 PM
I want one!!!!
My Element
06-01-2010, 01:08 PM
make under 500 i hope
00lowndes
06-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Would love to see the Jonhson 1978 Bathurst XC reverse Cobra, to go with my
Johnson and Moffat 78 Cobra's and the Winterbottom BF Cobra. Would make for a great set.
Would also love to see the Brock 78 or 70 livery on a Code 3 VE as well
Chris Roche
06-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Best guess -Numbers would be limited to 200 tops 500 at best!
00lowndes
06-01-2010, 01:11 PM
What sort of price are we talking for low numbers of 200
would have to be standard price wouldnt it? can only help biante out doing more FG falcons..... lower the cost of the mould etc
Chris Roche
06-01-2010, 01:15 PM
Pricing would remain the same!
My Element
06-01-2010, 01:17 PM
yep 200-500, I'm keen, maybe a brock 97 VE for us holden guys as well. Can see another theme starting here lol
El Cheapo
06-01-2010, 01:25 PM
I'd be very keen on that :D
i think a couple of VE's wouldnt go astray either. Keep both sides of the fence happy
Mark Wicks
06-01-2010, 02:00 PM
Pricing would remain the same!
Not what I'm into collecting, but they sure would look awesome!
Chris, if you can keep the price the same for a run of just 200 of these items, what's the hurdle to produce similar numbers of the current crop of V8 Supercars that are currently not being modelled (the backmarker/private teams and drivers)? I would have thought 200 would be a very achievable sales target on pretty much anything. Same deal for the huge range of race cars that can utilise the VL and VR/S, XD/XE etc castings. There is a loooooong list of items i would pay money for there.
Anyway, I'm sure there would be enough of a market to move 300+ of some of these Retro Racer liveries on current body styles, so +1 from me.
Chris Roche
06-01-2010, 02:09 PM
Mark Wicks - we are trying to make those back marker teams where possible. Anything we don't have is contracted to Classics.
No everything can be done due to different factories requirements. We are trying to where possible do some of those cars that may not have been made before. Its all work in progress!
UNDFTD
06-01-2010, 02:12 PM
yes please! 250 sounds like a good production number to me
Leigh
06-01-2010, 02:17 PM
Not interested myself, as I collect cars that have raced...but I think you'll get enough people interested to sell 3-400.
On a technical note, I though Code 1 was a model produced by a model manufacturer (i.e. Biante, Code 2 was one modified with the original manufacturers permission and Code 3 was an unauthorised modification...so I would not call this a Code 3, it is a Code 1 like every other model that Biante make. Not sure if there is a term for what you want to do...
lachlan
06-01-2010, 02:17 PM
Wouldn't it be a code 2? or a normal code1?:D
lachlan
06-01-2010, 02:20 PM
Not interested myself, as I collect cars that have raced...but I think you'll get enough people interested to sell 3-400.
On a technical note, I though Code 1 was a model produced by a model manufacturer (i.e. Biante, Code 2 was one modified with the original manufacturers permission and Code 3 was an unauthorised modification...so I would not call this a Code 3, it is a Code 1 like every other model that Biante make. Not sure if there is a term for what you want to do...
Oops, posted at the same time....
Chris while we are on the topic of code 3, would it be possible to release white race cars (FG and VE) so that people who do there own code 3's would have a good base to work from. I am sure there would be alot of people who would buy those. (1:43 please).
Chris Roche
06-01-2010, 03:04 PM
1:43 - working on your request. FG easy, VE not so easy but working on it!
supa-roo
06-01-2010, 03:15 PM
I know it's an FG thread but what about some older models as clean skins, XA's through to AU's and even further back to some Cortinas for some early Bathurst Winning model code 3's ?
1:43 - working on your request. FG easy, VE not so easy but working on it!
Cool :cool::cool::cool:
Thanks for the reply Chris
8hype
06-01-2010, 03:27 PM
1:43 - working on your request. FG easy, VE not so easy but working on it!
was wondering chris with 1:43 request is it possible to not have it in white but in an undercoat so paint can just go straight on.i think a lot of people would go for these
cheers matt
HRT01
06-01-2010, 03:30 PM
Put me down for one for sure. :)
smokey_dj
06-01-2010, 03:33 PM
was wondering chris with 1:43 request is it possible to not have it in white but in an undercoat so paint can just go straight on.i think a lot of people would go for these
cheers matt
only prob i see with that matt is the undercoat is usually not very strong in holding onto a car or anything without paint and scuffs marks damages alot easily i dont know what you could do to prevent that ?
UNDFTD
06-01-2010, 03:33 PM
is it possible to not have it in white but in an undercoat so paint can just go straight on.i think a lot of people would go for these
that would be a good idea, also how about releasing a 1:18 FG in kit form with instructions, i remember Maisto an Bburago having kits like this
that way you wouldn't have to pull every thing apart and could get stuck into a project....anyways just a thought.
Not what I'm into collecting, but they sure would look awesome!
Chris, if you can keep the price the same for a run of just 200 of these items, what's the hurdle to produce similar numbers of the current crop of V8 Supercars that are currently not being modelled (the backmarker/private teams and drivers)? I would have thought 200 would be a very achievable sales target on pretty much anything. Same deal for the huge range of race cars that can utilise the VL and VR/S, XD/XE etc castings. There is a loooooong list of items i would pay money for there.
Anyway, I'm sure there would be enough of a market to move 300+ of some of these Retro Racer liveries on current body styles, so +1 from me.
What about the Fiore Bathurst car from last year. Limited run of 250. I would buy one for sure. Kitten Car Care if I recall??
Also, The D'Alberto Bottle-o car. Awesome looking livery and something a bit different. Similar small run would sell wouldnt it?
And would somebody please make the Dumbrell #10 Autobarn car!!!! Now that Biante is contracted to do Bundy Red Racing for 2010 whats the chances of seeing the Autobarn car?
brchi17
06-01-2010, 03:44 PM
In listening and viewing to the forum, we see that the Ford fans are complaining that we don't make enough Fords! We would like your views and thoughts if we where to make in a very limited number a Code 3 of the 1977 Allan Moffat Bathurst car!
This giving you the latest tooling we have in the FG in something very different!
Its just a thought, but would welcome all feedback good and bad! If good, what other cars would you like to see being made, and bad, well all the bad points!
We look forward to your thoughts and views!
Nice to read that you're hearing the minority of Ford fans whom are calling out for more!
Agreed, the Brock model car company doesn't make enough Ford's but how about releasing something 'new' (from the ages), rather than what looks like another release to share the cost of the FG mould. I've got nothing against the idea as it's one of the current fad's however as a longer term collector I believe there are other Ford's should be a higher priority than this.
Let's talk Falcon road cars?
There are so many unreleased Ford roadies which no one has made or are even rumored to be making in 1/18 like
XD Fairmont Ghia ESP
XE Fairmont Ghia ESP
Falcon utes and panel vans (XD/E/F)
XF Falcon
XA/B Falcon GT 4-door (I know you've shelved that project atm)
EB Falcon XR8 (return of the V8 into Ford and saw Ford return to racing) EB XR8 Sprint, XR6
EB GT
EF XR8
EL Falcon XR8/6
EL GTAnd that not including the many DJR racing Mustangs, Sierra's & EF/L Falcon of which there are many, many more waiting for Biante to make.
supa-roo
06-01-2010, 03:53 PM
Nice to read that you're hearing the minority of Ford fans whom are calling out for more!
Agreed, the Brock model car company doesn't make enough Ford's but how about releasing something 'new' (from the ages), rather than what looks like another release to share the cost of the FG mould. I've got nothing against the idea as it's one of the current fad's however as a longer term collector I believe there are other Ford's should be a higher priority than this.
Let's talk Falcon road cars?
There are so many unreleased Ford roadies which no one has made or are even rumored to be making in 1/18 like
XD Fairmont Ghia ESP
XE Fairmont Ghia ESP
Falcon utes and panel vans (XD/E/F)
XF Falcon
XA/B Falcon GT 4-door (I know you've shelved that project atm)
EB Falcon XR8 (return of the V8 into Ford and saw Ford return to racing) EB XR8 Sprint, XR6
EB GT
EF XR8
EL Falcon XR8/6
EL GTAnd that not including the many DJR racing Mustangs, Sierra's & EF/L Falcon of which there are many, many more waiting for Biante to make.
Gots ta agree with ya there Brad, the list does go on with the older models and liveries
Pug205
06-01-2010, 04:16 PM
Not a fan of this at all.
I like my models based on real race cars. Keep this to the hugely talented code 3ers on this site ;)
skaifeyfan2
06-01-2010, 04:29 PM
What if Biante made 500 white FG v8 supercars that code 3ers could buy for code 3s. maybe would cost less than 215 due to not having to worry about licencing for teams/sponsors etc?
fatty
06-01-2010, 04:40 PM
This would put poor Rascot out of a gig.
I'm not against it yet does not do it for me as far as a purchase goes. Having said that, hope ya make it & hope it sells.
The retro thing is big in the NRL & certainly sells merchandise. Harder in V8SC given the current sponsors fairly having a say in things.
Enjoyed the 2008 HRT Bathurst livery along with the FPR Cobra livery. Think there should be more of this during the season that can then be done as models.
HRT for example could easily do something that resembles their 88-89 livery etc for a one-off meet.
As some of the other guys have said, plenty of earlier actual race cars that could be done from the lesser teams that I'd buy. Tooling already done..
Qu. Has Biante got Bob Morris in their stable for some more of his cars? At least 5 I'd buy & all from existing models that have been done.
model_mad
06-01-2010, 05:40 PM
Yes at 250
UNDFTD
06-01-2010, 06:35 PM
Yes at 250
in your case Ash, they'd be better off making 99, that way you'll get your low COA without any hassles:p:D
Damage
06-01-2010, 06:37 PM
Plain red or white VE V8SC, blue/green or white FG's please.
Have to call these a code 4...
HDT337
06-01-2010, 06:45 PM
Not a fan of this at all.
I like my models based on real race cars. Keep this to the hugely talented code 3ers on this site ;)
Yep, got to agree, seems as though Guys like Rascot, Damage, Super-Roo and others have created a nice little hobby in doing out of the ordinary Code 3 models for themselves and others, and now Biante want a piece of the pie because they can see some profit in it.
Biante, there are many, many models that you can release before you copy the creations and ideas of the little guys.
HDT337
Biante, there are many, many models that you can release before you copy the creations and ideas of the little guys.HDT337
As I siad earlier not my thing but this is a reproduction business.. Lets the guys that want one that cant do one themselves have one though? Sure that if it gets off the ground the Biante code 3's will be few & far between so wont spoil that hobby as a whole.
Lastly, the more models that Biante can sell from the tooling, the cheaper the input cost per unit which should benefit both Biante & us in the long run. If they can sell them, go for it.
UNDFTD
06-01-2010, 07:19 PM
Lastly, the more models that Biante can sell from the tooling, the cheaper the input cost per unit which should benefit both Biante & us in the long run. If they can sell them, go for it.
i dont think you'll ever see a new 1:18 Biante release for under $215.
HDT337
06-01-2010, 07:37 PM
i dont think you'll ever see a new 1:18 Biante release for under $215.
If anything, we can probably expect another price rise soon....
HDT337
Rascot
06-01-2010, 07:39 PM
Didn't some one make a BF 77 Moffat car :laugh4:
A FG Moffat 77 would look great.
Kalekta
06-01-2010, 08:08 PM
A FG Moffat 77 would look great.
Sure would - put me down for 1!!!
was wondering chris with 1:43 request is it possible to not have it in white but in an undercoat so paint can just go straight on.i think a lot of people would go for these
cheers matt
Factory paint is actually a better base than primer as paint will always stick to other paint (in general terms) as long as the prep work is done correctly.
MOTIV8
07-01-2010, 03:27 AM
Chris, I think that this is a great idea and that Biante are utilising the forums for ideas of future product lanches (as not too many businesses do this type of thing). Being such a low number to be produced would it be possible to be sold through the website only and strictly one per person so that we all get a fair chance of buying one or pre-order only (I am happy to hand over the folded stuff prior :)) Also just wondering as it is a 'code 3' that are we as collectors still going to have to finish it off with the cigarette sponsorship?
Cheers
Sean
malscar
07-01-2010, 04:52 AM
Also just wondering as it is a 'code 3' that are we as collectors still going to have to finish it off with the cigarette sponsorship?
Cheers
Sean
That is when it becomes a Code 3. As sold by Biante, they would be considered Code 1. Just like matchbox cars, a fictional scheme overlaid on a factual car.
Personally I would not be interested in buying any. What Rascot and others have done look great, show a amazing talent which I love seeing, but are still just a fictional 'what if' representation of a race car. I would rather the 250/500 cars be of real cars that have raced.
Maybe do a lightly modded road car. i.e a Torana L34 with some very nice period mags, candy apple red and without the pinstripes etc. Doing something like this is more likely to get a response from the general public as they could imagine a real one in the garage.
AmonFan
07-01-2010, 06:18 AM
That is when it becomes a Code 3. As sold by Biante, they would be considered Code 1. Just like matchbox cars, a fictional scheme overlaid on a factual car.
Personally I would not be interested in buying any. What Rascot and others have done look great, show a amazing talent which I love seeing, but are still just a fictional 'what if' representation of a race car. I would rather the 250/500 cars be of real cars that have raced.
Maybe do a lightly modded road car. i.e a Torana L34 with some very nice period mags, candy apple red and without the pinstripes etc. Doing something like this is more likely to get a response from the general public as they could imagine a real one in the garage.
I agree Mal....... Stuff like that would be very cool. A FJ with mags and a red motor, even some early FX/FJ race cars..... XC road car with some nice mags..... Plus the endless list of race cars that could be produced if we are going with say 250 units....
lachlan
07-01-2010, 10:39 AM
How about another Possum Bourne, Neal Bates or Ed Ordynski car? I'm sure if your now talking of low numbers (250-500) you would be able to sell them easily.
Leigh
07-01-2010, 11:35 AM
Chris, I think that this is a great idea and that Biante are utilising the forums for ideas of future product lanches (as not too many businesses do this type of thing). Being such a low number to be produced would it be possible to be sold through the website only and strictly one per person so that we all get a fair chance of buying one or pre-order only (I am happy to hand over the folded stuff prior :)) Also just wondering as it is a 'code 3' that are we as collectors still going to have to finish it off with the cigarette sponsorship?
Cheers
Sean
I clearly remember the 78 BW fiasco many moons ago where the website kept crashing with the traffic, and to confirm purchases, Biante briefly posted a list of confirmed orders, it was clearly evident on that list that husband/wives etc bought thye "1 per customer" to get multiples...then you get legit "two collector" households like Ken and his son...
I like the concept, but somebody has to put on the thinking cap to ensure it is a fair process.
Garry
07-01-2010, 01:32 PM
To clairify what is being proposed and discussed will eventually be a Code 1 release.
The following definition of "Code 1" etc was a copy / paste extract from; www.matchboxclub.com
CODE 1- "Models that have been manufactured in their entirety by Matchbox and have been distributed for sale to the general public through retail outlets, or by mail order."
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CODE 2- " Models that were originally of a Code 1 status, but whose livery, or decorations, have been altered, removed, or replaced by a third party with the full agreement of Matchbox; OR where a Code I model has not been made available to the general public through normal retail outlets or by mail order."
CODE 3-" Models that were originally of Code I status, but whose livery or decorations have been altered, removed, or replaced by a third party without the agreement and acknowledgement of Matchbox."
These models fall outside the control of the owner of the Models of Yesteryear brand and so are no longer classified as Models of Yesteryear.
CODE 4-" Presentation, commemorative or one-off models which have been produced on Matchbox premises, under Matchbox management supervision and which were never intended to be released to the general public or collectors market."
Hopefully this will clear up the confusion on this thread.
Now, I want to ask two questions,
1/ Why should this type of release be restricted to the website ??
2/ Is this the beginning of a mailorder only ??
Regards, Garry
lachlan
07-01-2010, 01:58 PM
Read post #17 Garry :)
malscar
07-01-2010, 01:59 PM
1/ Why should this type of release be restricted to the website ??
2/ Is this the beginning of a mailorder only ??
Regards, Garry
Garry, the website sales was brought up by a forum member. Chris never mentioned how they would be sold.
Mal
Masterblaster
07-01-2010, 02:15 PM
As a collector of "Pure" Race Cars . . . I can't see myself buying a Code 1, 2, 3 (or whatever you want to call it) of a FG that is fictional!
Even Movies cars have relatively little interest from collectors (have a look how the Mad Max Coupe is doin? ;) )
I agree with many of the other members, that biante have to focus on building ALL of the other historic racecars yet to be manufactured.
Someone wrote about Bathurst Cortina's? . . .That would be a great start . . . then follow up with the remaining Bathurst models we're missing like the 1985 Jag, or the 1998 Bright/Richards EL.
And as far as Website ordering is concerned . . . it should be "1 per household." I appreciate the fact that there are father/son collectors . . . and maybe some truth in the "Husband/wife" collectors. Those requiring more than 1 per household could source these from a retailer!
OK . . . enough controversy! :)
Garry
07-01-2010, 02:28 PM
Read post #17 Garry :)
Hi Lachlan,
Having read post #17, along with all the other posts in the thread, I still felt that quoting the source and guidlines associated with the coding would be helpful to at least a few forum members.
Regards, Garry
lachlan
07-01-2010, 02:39 PM
Hi Lachlan,
Having read post #17, along with all the other posts in the thread, I still felt that quoting the source and guidlines associated with the coding would be helpful to at least a few forum members.
Regards, Garry
No worries Mate :D
Garry
07-01-2010, 02:43 PM
Garry, the website sales was brought up by a forum member. Chris never mentioned how they would be sold.
Mal
Hi Malscar,
Why would you mention Chris when my questions were not directed at anyone in particular ?? Rather, the questions were openly posted to the forum???
If you feel that you could offer an answer, please do.
Please don't miss read my posts as I can get MYSELF in the S..T without your help. LOL
Regards, Garry
malscar
07-01-2010, 02:49 PM
Hi Garry
It just appeared that you had the idea that the models could be mailorder only and that this info was from Biante. I know this has been brought up before due to rumours being circulated that Biante was going this way, (Actually I think by you lol) so was just making sure that it was not interpreted as coming from Biante. I think if it was mail order only, then they would be sitting in the warehouse for a while.
Mal
Garry
07-01-2010, 02:59 PM
Hi Garry
It just appeared that you had the idea that the models could be mailorder only and that this info was from Biante. I know this has been brought up before due to rumours being circulated that Biante was going this way, (Actually I think by you lol) so was just making sure that it was not interpreted as coming from Biante. I think if it was mail order only, then they would be sitting in the warehouse for a while.
Mal
Hi again Mal,
I appreciate your reply.
Garry
Leigh
07-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Hi Lachlan,
Having read post #17, along with all the other posts in the thread, I still felt that quoting the source and guidlines associated with the coding would be helpful to at least a few forum members.
Regards, Garry
Cheers Garry. Yours are better words than mine :D
model_mad
07-01-2010, 04:46 PM
in your case Ash, they'd be better off making 99, that way you'll get your low COA without any hassles:p:D
Ha then i would chase one over 100, just to be a tool!
Road Runner 72
07-01-2010, 09:16 PM
Mmmmmm Code 1 Hmmmmmmm
Hi Chris,
Okay I know most collectors collect Real race cars, not Fantasy cars & some road cars are popular, as I feel the % of collectors cars are race cars.
But you never know till you try it right?
Another Q, will this be a biante FORUM only car, or as I see it a Biante website members only car? as I do know a lot more non posting members now & there input (Apart from how they see some members lol) will be unheard unless they post, but from there point of veiw the don't want to post just read what they wan't, it's there choice, but if they need info they email lol.
So anyway, this gave me an idea, can't remember why you guys stopped doing it, but like years ago, why not make is a Biante Club Members model? As you have the magazines now & you can then do a small run of a limited car, be it race, fantasy or road, as you can change it each year or release two or three different sorts a year, might get more members signing up to the website & buying direct from you & might work by doing it adavance order so there is no website melt down.
Anyway just my thoughts.
Cheers
Garry
08-01-2010, 10:27 AM
Mmmmmm Code 1 Hmmmmmmm
why not make is a Biante Club Members model?
Cheers
A Club Member's Model falls into the Code 2 catagory. As do ALL promotional models, Sidchrome, Gillette, Sunbeam, Ferrodo etc.
CODE 2- " Models that were originally of a Code 1 status, but whose livery, or decorations, have been altered, removed, or replaced by a third party with the full agreement of Matchbox; OR where a Code I model has not been made available to the general public through normal retail outlets or by mail order."
I do like the idea of re-introducung the an annual Club model.
Out of curiousity, anyone know the current value of the 1:18 Orange Mclaren 'Club Model"'?
Regards, Garry
MP4/22
08-01-2010, 10:30 AM
Out of curiousity, anyone know the current value of the 1:18 Orange Mclaren 'Club Model"'?
two livers and one Kidney ;)
Richard Poole
08-01-2010, 10:30 AM
The McLaren isn't orange, it's a silver road car with orange/red stripes and lettering. Haven't seen one for sale in ages. Still have mine though.
Garry
08-01-2010, 11:36 AM
The McLaren isn't orange, it's a silver road car with orange/red stripes and lettering. Haven't seen one for sale in ages. Still have mine though.
Thanks Richard,
I haven't got one, thats probably why I make the mistake on colour. Got it mixed up with the original release of the Orange one. ie. I have a vague recollection the problem was, it was modelled on a modified production road car ?
I fear, old age creeping on again , at least thats what my young girl friend keeps telling me. (Tri Weekly, Try Weekly, Try Weakly)
Where was I ??????? What was I doing ?????
spiderken17
08-01-2010, 12:07 PM
I dont reckon i would buy an "imaginary" car as i like my actual race replicas. If Biante was to build a small run of a supercar using one of their existing moulds (to get the most use out of them i assume) i would rather have something that was actually raced.
Something like the Holdsworth/Caruso bathurst car, the SBR mixed livery enduro car or the FPR enduro car (i know the last two are mede by CC but i am just using thm as examples)
A Biante club exclusive (or at least first chance to purchase) would be fantastic and much better than the CC members cars which are the ordinary season cars on a base. It would make them much more collectable.
spolyhronidis
08-01-2010, 02:24 PM
Out of curiousity, anyone know the current value of the 1:18 Orange Mclaren 'Club Model"'?
two livers and one Kidney ;)
one was for sale on ebay 2 months ago for $165 if i remember correctly.
MP4/22
08-01-2010, 02:36 PM
Well you don't know the state of my organs :sick2::D
00lowndes
09-01-2010, 01:04 PM
OK CHris
Here is 3 good canderdates for thr FG as these hold signifance
Geoghegan SuperFalcon white castrol colours
Moffat Phase 4 as you aren't doing the normal
Johnson 1978 Reverse Cobra
UNDFTD
09-01-2010, 01:10 PM
OK CHris
Here is 3 good canderdates for thr FG as these hold signifance
Geoghegan SuperFalcon white castrol colours
Moffat Phase 4 as you aren't doing the normal
Johnson 1978 Reverse Cobra
the Geoghegan livery would look awesome!, wouldn't mind the 81 and 89 Bathurst winning livery's too
00lowndes
09-01-2010, 05:36 PM
Yer the list could go on. But how many of these do we want. I think the Fantastic five would be great to have as a set
Geoghegan Super falcon
Moffat Coke
Jane Camaro
Beechey Monaro
Geoghegan 67 Mustang
Yer the list could go on. But how many of these do we want. I think the Fantastic five would be great to have as a set
Geoghegan Super falcon
Moffat Coke
Jane Camaro
Beechey Monaro
Geoghegan 67 Mustang
I don't think that the Jane Camaro or the Beechey Monaro would look any good on an FG body :p:D
HDT337
10-01-2010, 06:36 AM
OK CHris
Here is 3 good canderdates for thr FG as these hold signifance
Geoghegan SuperFalcon white castrol colours
Moffat Phase 4 as you aren't doing the normal
Johnson 1978 Reverse Cobra
Did Moffat ever drive the Phase 4, from what I have heard, it was never even dressed up in race colours let alone Moffat driving/racing it. Correct me if I'm wrong.
HDT337
The Phase IV project was axed and the cars were ushered out the back door to selected owners in Australia.
Our GTHO was shipped to Queensland rally driver Keith Goodall. It was the only car of the three racers that was completed; it had been tested at Calder, and was all ready to be handed to Fords top driver Allan Moffat. Having talked to Keith recently he was able to give me some insights into his ownership of the Ford racer. Keith raced a GTHO Phase I quite successfully, both at the circuit and on the dirt. He was approached by Howard Marsden during part of the Dulux Rally at Hume Weir and asked if he wanted to get one of the new Phase IV GTHO's they were developing. Keith had never heard of the new car and asked how much it would cost, "around 2500 dollars" Howard replied. Keith was very interested, it seemed about time to replace the Phase I and the price was right.
Over the next few months Keith rang Howard to get information on the new cars progress. With every call the cars price seemed to be increasing. Howard told him that the factory race team would be attending an upcoming meet at Surfers Paradise raceway, so he travelled there with a bank cheque in hand for $3,500. This was presented to Howard ensuring he received one of the Phase IV GTHO's. Once again some time passed, then out of the blue he received a phone call telling him to pick up the car immediately from Ford Special Vehicles. Unable to get to Melbourne on such short notice, he had his brother collect the car and organise it onto a boat bound for Townsville, Qld.
Once the car arrived in Townsville Keith was amazed at what he had been sent, a fully prepared race car all sign-written for none other than Allan Moffat! He had read all about the Super Cars and the pressure put on the manufacturers to stop building these machines, so it didn't take long to put two and two together, and realise what he had in his hands!
Reprinted (Copy & paste?) from Bowdens website
david5
10-01-2010, 09:48 AM
Thats interesting, everything else I've read said the car had not received any signwriting . Is this right Nedwob ??
HDT337
10-01-2010, 10:17 AM
Thats interesting, everything else I've read said the car had not received any signwriting . Is this right Nedwob ??
Thats what I thought as well.
HDT337
Boogs
12-07-2010, 06:04 AM
Let's talk Falcon road cars?
There are so many unreleased Ford roadies which no one has made or are even rumored to be making in 1/18 like
XD Fairmont Ghia ESP
XE Fairmont Ghia ESP
Falcon utes and panel vans (XD/E/F)
XF Falcon
XA/B Falcon GT 4-door (I know you've shelved that project atm)
EB Falcon XR8 (return of the V8 into Ford and saw Ford return to racing) EB XR8 Sprint, XR6
EB GT
EF XR8
EL Falcon XR8/6
EL GTAnd that not including the many DJR racing Mustangs, Sierra's & EF/L Falcon of which there are many, many more waiting for Biante to make.
If these were made in also 1:43 or 1:64, you would have a buyer here, right now wanting them.
As for code 3's, not really a fan to be honest.
Although I reckon a scale model of the VE HDT cars would look awesome.
VE HDT Blue Meanie.. = hot!
YRI55K
12-07-2010, 09:51 AM
i'll be interested in gettin 1 but i'm not interested in collecting V8 supercars as there's way too much of em....but if u do something like ur talking about that'll be different and also a VE with...say...VH 82 bathurst paint would be good 2...
if ur only making limited numbers how would 1 pre order 1 before their all sold...the model shop i deal with waits for some1 to ask then they put their order in...and if only 1 or 2 people put their name down i doubt they even bother...
fatty
12-07-2010, 10:46 AM
Wow fancy dragging out this old thread. Wonder what Biantes thoughts on the feedback were. Was this the start of the Directors Special
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