1975 Holden HJ Sandman 1/18

[HRT-222]

G'day Guys, i was wondering whether or not an yof you guys know if the 1975 Holden HJ Sandman has been made in 1/18....any help would be much appreciated

Cheers Josh

[HDT337]

G'day Guys, i was wondering whether or not an yof you guys know if the 1975 Holden HJ Sandman has been made in 1/18....any help would be much appreciated

Cheers Josh

No, but a HQ and a HZ ute and panel van are on the way, easy conversion to a HJ.

HDT337

[HRT-222]

So whats the difference betwwen them if you say it's easy to convert them....Cheers Josh

[HDT337]

On the J, X and Z, usually only the grill I think, but cosmetically, the Sandman stripes as well.

That would be the most obvious changes, there may be a few small things.

HDT337

[Graeme]

The differences between the HJ and HX vary, but if you accept the HJ as a late version (ie a 1976 build) then the engines are essentially the same (ADR 27A) but for large air cleaner ID decals on the HJ-series. The earlier HJ versions (1974/75) had simpler emissions requirements, and therefore no charcoal canister, EGR valve, or other pollution gear under the bonnet.

But, the most significant variation is that the HJ featured fluted front guards straight off the Monaro GTS.

Otherwise, the HJ featured Holden Belmont inner door trims, but with the addition of arm rests, whereas HX featured Holden Kingswood door trims. A few little things varied inside such as the multi-function steering column stalk on the HX-series.

Door mirrors were standard Holden passenger car items on the HJ, whereas the HX Sandman featured the A9X style of sports mirror.

The rest of the external differences relate to the front grille, tail-light surrounds and paint treatments / accents.

[00lowndes]

With the Hx Sandman coming you would think that Biante will do the HQ,HJ and HZ vans at some stage over the next year or so. I can't wait for these to come out. Bout time we got something new

[slr5000a9x]

they should have started with the best
sandman....the sea witch.

WHAT WILL BE MORE POPULAR??????

Panelvan or Ute?????

Does anyone know how many they will be making of each?

[sleepy]

[QUOTE=slr5000a9x;383194]they should have started with the best
sandman....the sea witch. Did you get the trax 1:43 seawitch its a fine looking model despite its small size.

[HDT337]

they should have started with the best
sandman....the sea witch.

WHAT WILL BE MORE POPULAR??????

Panelvan or Ute?????

Does anyone know how many they will be making of each?

That would look great along side the Mambo Sandman.

HDT337

[Maximus]

http://www.biante.com.au/product_22857.htm

Give this a shot.........

[HDT383]

Anyone no production numbers on the HX Sandman van in Red.

[Brutesutes]

The panel vans would be the best you could do code 3's in the back ,mirors on the roof archways to the front, cupboards on the side, surf racks man those were the days :D

[john]

I didnt buy the Mambo Sandman. I know it's an expensive model now, but I just didn't like it. The HX Sandman is more appealing, I might add one to my collection.

[HDT337]

The panel vans would be the best you could do code 3's in the back ,mirors on the roof archways to the front, cupboards on the side, surf racks man those were the days :D

Or an NRMA van....

HDT337

[Brutesutes]

Or an NRMA van....

HDT337Or a bedford van with a 308 and a ford 9 inch rear end :cool: oh and chrome side pipes

[singer]

Or a bedford van with a 308 and a ford 9 inch rear end :cool: oh and chrome side pipes

Don't laugh (to hard) but I had a Bedford van no 308, instead a 4.4l P76 V8 with a ford 9 inch rear end & the Chrome side pipes:o.

Good to put Drum Kit, lighting & mixing Gear in, & still leave room to SLEEP in:p

Decked oiut my fair share of Shagging Wagins including an Escort Van with Mirror Tiled Roof for a female acquaintance

[sleepy]

One of my mates used to have one of the bedford vans with the dual rear wheels they had a holden red motor 173 i think it was a shocking thing out on the highway diff was way to low lol the old red motors in standard guise and non standard were extremely noisy in a bedford panel van with a low diff.

[Graeme]

One of my mates used to have one of the bedford vans with the dual rear wheels they had a holden red motor 173 i think it was a shocking thing out on the highway diff was way to low lol the old red motors in standard guise and non standard were extremely noisy in a bedford panel van with a low diff.

Yep ... I had a basic specification van back in 1978 as a work vehicle, plain white with hinged doors (not sliding doors as featured on many 'bread' and postal vans), with heavy-duty cross ply tyres rather than radials, and running a standard single-wheels rear axle. The engine was indeed a 173 red motor coupled to a 3-speed manual floor shift.

Unlike the Ford Transit vans, the Bedford did not get an extended nose to accommodate the six-cylinder engine, consequently the gearshift was actually behind the seat line and the gearlever angled forward from the floor.

With no load on board, the old van would light up the rear tyres no sweat, but the gearing would drive you mad when cruising speeds rose above 80kph ... the driveline noise was pretty much unbearable at 100kph ... it was a good idea to have asprin handy for long hauls ... but there was no glovebox in the Bedford, so basic was the interior.

[infinity]

My mate Russ had a XC sundowner panel van with factory 5.8 power steering a/cond auto 9 inch diff, full gs pack.In fact every option available on a van.Even 4 wheel disc brakes.He eventually drove it into the ground.How rare would that be today.

[Graeme]

My mate Russ had a XC sundowner panel van with factory 5.8 power steering a/cond auto 9 inch diff, full gs pack.In fact every option available on a van.Even 4 wheel disc brakes.He eventually drove it into the ground.How rare would that be today.

I don't recall when I last saw a Sundowner ... XC Falcon GS utes and GS vans were far more common, but the vans almost always feature barn doors. The XC Falcon Sundowner van, if I remember rightly, came standard with the much less common drop-down tailgate.

[fordmad17]

Yep ... I had a basic specification van back in 1978 as a work vehicle, plain white with hinged doors (not sliding doors as featured on many 'bread' and postal vans), with heavy-duty cross ply tyres rather than radials, and running a standard single-wheels rear axle. The engine was indeed a 173 red motor coupled to a 3-speed manual floor shift.

Unlike the Ford Transit vans, the Bedford did not get an extended nose to accommodate the six-cylinder engine, consequently the gearshift was actually behind the seat line and the gearlever angled forward from the floor.

With no load on board, the old van would light up the rear tyres no sweat, but the gearing would drive you mad when cruising speeds rose above 80kph ... the driveline noise was pretty much unbearable at 100kph ... it was a good idea to have asprin handy for long hauls ... but there was no glovebox in the Bedford, so basic was the interior.

Oh Graeme ur bringing back all my childhood memories of my old mans bedford...I think it was an ex Aussie post van, it was red and he nailed it and it went but yes I remember sitting in the back and getting out not hearing a thing the noise was loud....I have some pictures of it somewhere..

[infinity]

I don't recall when I last saw a Sundowner ... XC Falcon GS utes and GS vans were far more common, but the vans almost always feature barn doors. The XC Falcon Sundowner van, if I remember rightly, came standard with the much less common drop-down tailgate.
Yep thats right,it also had drop-down tailgate because i remember many wild nights clambering into the back of it in a inebriated state for another hell raising ride home.Those twin pipes sounded magnificent with the top part open.

[sleepy]

Yep thats right,it also had drop-down tailgate because i remember many wild nights clambering into the back of it in a inebriated state for another hell raising ride home.Those twin pipes sounded magnificent with the top part open.Yes they were great sucking all the fumes in the rear killing our brain cells..

[infinity]

Yes they were great sucking all the fumes in the rear killing our brain cells..
Yeah,along with riding in the back of utes,not wearing helmets when riding a bicycle parents that smoked indoors And drank and drove.Kind of makes you wonder how we got this far.

[rayman]

Yeah,along with riding in the back of utes,not wearing helmets when riding a bicycle parents that smoked indoors And drank and drove.Kind of makes you wonder how we got this far.
You forgot living in asbestos houses.

[infinity]

You forgot living in asbestos houses.
And buying mcdonalds in stryafoam packaging.

[ratster70]

And buying mcdonalds in stryafoam packaging.


And petrol was only 80 cents a litre :rolleyes:

[singer]

And petrol was only 80 cents a litre :rolleyes:

1 of my fisrt Jobs was managing a Full Service Petrol Station when Petrol was 29.9cpl & I could afford to run 4 Cars

[ratster70]

1 of my fisrt Jobs was managing a Full Service Petrol Station when Petrol was 29.9cpl & I could afford to run 4 Cars


hehe now your showing your age mate :p but those were the days ;)

[infinity]

My first car a HQ statesman,cost $20.00 to fill from empty in 1984.40 something cents a litre i think.

[Silver Mink]

And petrol was only 80 cents a litre :rolleyes:
Those were the days.. The cheapest I can recall Super was 17c/litre ~ in the mid 70's.

[malscar]

$10/$15 to fill the Escort. 26mpg out of a 2ltr motor, geeze they were thirsty.

[david5]

$10/$15 to fill the Escort. 26mpg out of a 2ltr motor, geeze they were thirsty.

Nothing to do with the driving style at all....? :rolleyes:

[singer]

hehe now your showing your age mate :p but those were the days ;)

I had a fleet of 8 Cars once(4 Singer's, a Humber Sceptre, Morris Minor 1000 [still own] HJ Panel Van which changed colours over time & a Subaru:D)

[malscar]

Nothing to do with the driving style at all....? :rolleyes:


No, not at all Dave, but gee it went like a cut snake.:p Drove the twin cam 1.6 Sprinter the same way and it was giving me about 35mpg. The Escort was actually worse than the VN Commodore.

[david5]

No, not at all Dave, but gee it went like a cut snake.:p Drove the twin cam 1.6 Sprinter the same way and it was giving me about 35mpg. The Escort was actually worse than the VN Commodore.

My Swift GTi was brilliant, you could drive it like you stole it all day & get 30 mpg, better again when driven with sanity.

[lachlan]

There must be something wrong with my Pulsar at the moment cause I can only get 300ks from 45Lts… what’s that around 19Mpg. :(

[malscar]

Which Pulsar? The standard shopping cart, or the go damn quick one. If the second one, stop using the leadfoot.

[lachlan]

Which Pulsar? The standard shopping cart, or the go damn quick one. If the second one, stop using the leadfoot.

The second one, I can't help myself :). If it was the first one I would be really worried...

[grease]

My old Mk2 cortina was getting about 200km to 250km per tank 1.6L engine that was worked but standard tank and I drove it hard.

[Brutesutes]

Do any of you guy's remember the old valliant drifter panel van ,they would be worth a fortune now ,came with side cupboards and an archway from memory , I had a hk panelvan at the time ,was in the back of the van doing the old side walls with a peice of chipboard and some foam and fake orange velvet ,I glued the foam on with contact adhesive was in the back for about 20 mins, fell out the back high as a kite ,wont do that again :D

[sleepy]

I remember the drifter. The drifter the sandman and the sundowner+ there was an escort van dressed up like a sundowner as well were all competing with each other for sales i dont know the sales figures but on the ground the sandman was the most popular the sundowner and the drifter seemed to be around in similar numbers while the escort seemed to be more popular the falcon and the valiant.

[Brutesutes]

I think we will see some good code 3's with these vans, murals on the side and tailgate ,decked out in the back might try to score 1 myself if i can swap something for 1 :)

[Graeme]

Do any of you guy's remember the old valiant drifter panel van ,they would be worth a fortune now ,came with side cupboards and an archway from memory ...

Chrysler also did an image thing with the CL panel van called the "Sports Van", something of an equivalent to Ford's "GS" option.

And, as an aside to Ford's Escort van, I wonder how many people recall Holden's TE Gemini "Gypsy" van ?

[singer]

Chrysler also did an image thing with the CL panel van called the "Sports Van", something of an equivalent to Ford's "GS" option.

And, as an aside to Ford's Escort van, I wonder how many people recall Holden's TE Gemini "Gypsy" van ?

Now thats a blast from the past

[group C]

was'nt the gemini van called a sandowner or something like that???

Chrysler also did an image thing with the CL panel van called the "Sports Van", something of an equivalent to Ford's "GS" option.

And, as an aside to Ford's Escort van, I wonder how many people recall Holden's TE Gemini "Gypsy" van ?

[malscar]

was'nt the gemini van called a sandowner or something like that???


Sundowner was the Ford versions. Very vague memory tells me it was the Gemini 'Gypsy' panel van.

[group C]

sundowner was that the falcons or the escort(geeze my memory is failing me;))

Sundowner was the Ford versions. Very vague memory tells me it was the Gemini 'Gypsy' panel van.

[GLENN L]

yes the gemi was a gypsy and i do belive the escort was the sundowner, but i have been wrong before.

[HQGTS74]

I think both the Falcon and the Escort were Sundowners. Here's a pic i had saved from a while ago..

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/HQGTS74/X C20Van20Sundowner20Advert20.jpg

Would love the Falcon in 1:18

Chris

[rayman]

I think both the Falcon and the Escort were Sundowners. Here's a pic i had saved from a while ago..

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/kk392/HQGTS74/X C20Van20Sundowner20Advert20.jpg

Would love the Falcon in 1:18

Chris
Don't forget the Transit Sundowner.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x228/Rayman011/ ford_1979_37.jpg

[sleepy]

was'nt the gemini van called a sandowner or something like that???I think there may have been a gemini called a sandpiper but cant remember wheather it was a sedan wagon or a van lol..

[group C]

thats the one i was thinking of sleepy thanks;)

I think there may have been a gemini called a sandpiper but cant remember wheather it was a sedan wagon or a van lol..

[Graeme]

I think there may have been a gemini called a sandpiper but cant remember wheather it was a sedan wagon or a van lol..

"Sandpiper" was a quasi-luxury version of the 1977 TC Gemini sedan and coupe, built in limited numbers and only available in exclusive Sandpiper Beige metallic paint, with cream and black accent colors.

The idea was repeated by Holden in 1981 with the TE Gemini "Sandpiper II" sedan.

Here's a recent pic of a 1977 coupe, with non-standard road wheels :

[infinity]

The gemini Gypsy van had S/LE wheels,stripe kit and gypsy decals but ill stand corrected.

[infinity]

Chrysler also did an image thing with the CL panel van called the "Sports Van", something of an equivalent to Ford's "GS" option.

And, as an aside to Ford's Escort van, I wonder how many people recall Holden's TE Gemini "Gypsy" van ?
I remember the sports van,was promoted as, the spirit of charger rides on,or words to that effect.