1972 Bathurst liveries

[ESP]

Hello.. Im currently painting the cars the competed in the 1972 Bathurst for rfactor as part of the Legends 1972 mod http://ausmodders.com.au/index.htm (http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Bathu rst%20Legends%201972). I have previously painted all the cars for the 1969 Bathurst race

Im after your help to complete the cars to as close as possible to accurate as I can.

Here is s ample of 3 cars I have completed

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/XYrender.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/XU1render.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/chargerrender.jpg



This is a list of the cars I'm painting

2D Leo Geoghegan Charger E49
4D Tom Naughton / Tony Farrell Charger E49
9D Graham Ryan Charger E49
11D Tony Allen & Len Searle Charger E49
14D Lawrie Nelson & Tony Roberts Charger E49
15D Doug Chivas Charger E49
20C Ray Kaleda & Paul Pressler Charger E38

10D Paul Gulson / Ray Gulson Falcon XY GTHO
12D John Goss Falcon XY GTHO
13D Des West Falcon XY GTHO
1D Allan Moffat Falcon XY GTHO
3D Murray Carter Falcon XY GTHO
5D John French Falcon XY GTHO
8D Fred Gibson Falcon XY GTHO

19C Don Holland Torana LJ XU1
21C Gerry Lister & David Seldon Torana LJ XU1
22C Bill Brown & P Ramsay Torana LJ XU1
23C Les Grose Torana LJ XU1
24C Colin Bond Torana LJ XU1
27C Bob Forbes Torana LJ XU1
28C Peter Brock Torana LJ XU1
29C Graham Moore Torana LJ XU1
30C Mrs.Pat Peck Torana LJ XU1
31C Bruce McPhee Torana LJ XU1
32C George Giesberts Torana LJ XU1
33C Wayne Negus & Neville Grigsby Torana LJ XU1

If you are able to provide any reference pictures it would be greatly appreciated and you will be credited.

Please contact me Via PM fif your able to help

I do plan on painting all cars that raced Bathurst from 1969 to 1973

[james]

Well done so far,hope to see more posts in the future as you finish each car.As to pics all mine are in books .all the best jim

[ESP]

I will update this shortly with images of all the 1969 cars so you can see the work I have done

[ESP]

Well done so far,hope to see more posts in the future as you finish each car.As to pics all mine are in books .all the best jim

Thanks Jim :)

feel free to take pictures and email them to me if you have a digital camera..

All pictures will remain the copyright and will not be posted anywhere else and would remain for personal use only

[HQGTS74]

Hey mate, they look great but shouldn't the Moffat XY have XY stripes that go down to the grille, unlike the XW type which yours appears to have. And should also be a number 1 in a black circle on the bonnet. Also the Moffat 72 XY Bathurst car didn't have a spoiler..

chris

[brchi17]

You've possibly looked at these, however the Bathurst Photographic Series of books by Stephen Stathis have heaps of shot of the older cars, sadly most are in B&W, however it may help be a starting point.

[chavez]

Definately no spoliers on the '72 Falcons.

http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj436/chavez_17 18/PDVD_000.jpg

[Mr K]

http://www.autopics.com.au/images/72713.jpg

[ESP]

You've possibly looked at these, however the Bathurst Photographic Series of books by Stephen Stathis have heaps of shot of the older cars, sadly most are in B&W, however it may help be a starting point.

Yes I have the XU1 Torana's and the GTHO Falcons

[David Paterson]

Hey mate, they look great but shouldn't the Moffat XY have XY stripes that go down to the grille, unlike the XW type which yours appears to have. And should also be a number 1 in a black circle on the bonnet. Also the Moffat 72 XY Bathurst car didn't have a spoiler..

chris

You're right, that XY has XW bonnet stripes and the XU-1 appears to have widened wheel rims. In 1972 they ran standard wheels. Otherwise, utterly top work! :)

[fatty]

D should be after the #1 on the passenger side of the XY. They look awesome though. Can't wait to see the rest.

[Fat Mal]

Keep up the good work, they look fantastic.

[SDK]

Like others have said, please post your 1969 collection. Love to have a look. Congrats on your work & must be a rewarding hobby.

[szwadiak100]

The Moffat car should also have silver tape on the headlights, and what's the deal with those number plates? Great work though.

[ESP]

The Moffat car should also have silver tape on the headlights, and what's the deal with those number plates? Great work though.


The number plates are for the mod group... In the game there is an option to run number plates or not..the cars that ran plates will also have the plates done

[ESP]

thanks for the comments and the things you have all pointed out

[brchi17]

I hope you guys do a colour chart for these like you did for the templates for your 69 mod, as I thought that was a really cool & unique addition

[ESP]

I hope you guys do a colour chart for these like you did for the templates for your 69 mod, as I thought that was a really cool & unique addition

Yes we are doing this for all 3 makes of car :)

[ESP]

still working through some small issues but here is an update

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/E49test.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/xytest.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/XY.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/E49.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/XU1.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/XYmr.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/e49mr.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/xu1_new.jpg

[fatty]

They look really good. Well done.

[Damage]

Look really good, well done. 28c has a blue battery triangle on the passenger side of the bonnet.

[awawaw]

great stuff, now we need a pre 87 bathurst!!

[tigerpete]

love those chargers:)

[singer]

you have a pm re Gulson Cars:)

[CraigD]

Thats great work on those cars.Just a couple of discrepancies that i've noticed.By the time the phase 3 came out they had done away with the spoilers front and rear and the john french car had ford painted in white on the grille.I hope that is of some help to you.

[bjsti7]

Look really good, well done. 28c has a blue battery triangle on the passenger side of the bonnet.

also no bonnet pins, but it does look awesome

[CraigD]

Frenchs car also had falcon on the rear quarter panel not ford.

[ESP]

Thats great work on those cars.Just a couple of discrepancies that i've noticed.By the time the phase 3 came out they had done away with the spoilers front and rear and the john french car had ford painted in white on the grille.I hope that is of some help to you.

thanks for that...I never noticed the front spolier missing.

Ford is painted white on the radiator behind the grill(this is not 100% accurate but the grill section cannot be painted on this model)

The car has the Ford logo on the RHS and Falcon on the left as per how the car raced at Bathurst

[ESP]

you have a pm re Gulson Cars:)

Thank you :)

[ESP]

great stuff, now we need a pre 87 bathurst!!

Funny you say that...

The mod team im part of are quietly working away on 1984 Bathurst :)

[CraigD]

thanks for that...I never noticed the front spolier missing.

Ford is painted white on the radiator behind the grill(this is not 100% accurate but the grill section cannot be painted on this model)

The car has the Ford logo on the RHS and Falcon on the left as per how the car raced at Bathurst

My mistake,the car looks awesome mate.:2thumbsup:

[ESP]

My mistake,the car looks awesome mate.:2thumbsup:


its all good :)

If it wasnt for the fact you said about the spoiler I would not have picked it up :)

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/E4915D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/E492D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/E494D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/E499D.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU133C-1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/E3820C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/E4911D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/E4914D.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU129C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU130C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU131C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU132C.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU123C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU124C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU127C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU128C.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XY8D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU119C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU121C.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XU122C.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XY13D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XY1D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XY3D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XY5D.jpg

[ESP]

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XY10D.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e114/nrap1975/AU SBL/final%20renders/XY12D.jpg

[CraigD]

Good stuff!!!

[awawaw]

great stuff. but why has the Brock car got a windscreen banner? CC model has too but I cant find a picture of the car with one? didnt have one at bathurst .also the falcons front windscreen chrome seem to wrap over too far. other than than bloody brilliant.

[ESP]

great stuff. but why has the Brock car got a windscreen banner? CC model has too but I cant find a picture of the car with one? didnt have one at bathurst .also the falcons front windscreen chrome seem to wrap over too far. other than than bloody brilliant.

In the book Bathurst XU-1 Toranas by Stephan Stathis on page 154 there is this banner on the window.. It does appear to be ripping off from the wipers so throughout the day it probably completely flew off

I will try and take a pic from the book with my camera

[awawaw]

In the book Bathurst XU-1 Toranas by Stephan Stathis on page 154 there is this banner on the window.. It does appear to be ripping off from the wipers so throughout the day it probably completely flew off

I will try and take a pic from the book with my camera

i found 1 photo of it at sandown, but every other pic i have its off. i dont have that book you have. must admit it looks better without it!! maybe we can have banners that fall of during a race LOL

[tigerpete]

great pic's, i love those chargers, pete

[louieate8ate]

The Falcons look really outstanding,very nice viewing.

[david5]

great stuff. but why has the Brock car got a windscreen banner? CC model has too but I cant find a picture of the car with one? didnt have one at bathurst .also the falcons front windscreen chrome seem to wrap over too far. other than than bloody brilliant.

Had the banner on at the start & the wipers tore it & it eventually fell off.

[commanderwhite]

Mate - I was there way back in 1972 & all I remember was two legends being born;-

Peter Brock's first win at Bathurst & also my first visit - still going each year since.

Torana - Little car - big heart.

Can't help you sorry but good luck you are quite gifted.

[ESP]

thanks for the comments :)

[David Paterson]

Absolutely fabulous. I am VERY keen to see this mod released.


"Picky nerd alert" LJ Toranas had white front blinkers in '72 & orange in '73.

[singer]

:pAbsolutely fabulous. I am VERY keen to see this mod released.


"Picky nerd alert" LJ Toranas had white front blinkers in '72 & orange in '73.
In fact you could have either. It just depended on what parts were on the production line at the time.

Have had 2 LJ's built 3wks apart (going by the Nos) 1 had Clear lenses the other had orange.

[ESP]

Absolutely fabulous. I am VERY keen to see this mod released.


"Picky nerd alert" LJ Toranas had white front blinkers in '72 & orange in '73.


LMAO...Well the wait wont be much longer :)

[ESP]

well this has finally been released for rfactor :)

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail.cfm?ID=Bathur st%20Legends%201972

I hope you enjoy it as much as we enjoyed making it

[awawaw]

Funny you say that...

The mod team im part of are quietly working away on 1984 Bathurst :)


What Mr Burns would say!!!

[Peter Minahan]

:p
In fact you could have either. It just depended on what parts were on the production line at the time.

Have had 2 LJ's built 3wks apart (going by the Nos) 1 had Clear lenses the other had orange.

I doubt any Toranas at Bathurst 72 had orange lenses as the ADR requiring them only came in from some time in (early?) '73. Colour pics of Brock, McPhee, Forbes, Holland and Moore all show white lenses at '72 race. The change of lenses may have happened towards the end of '72 if they ran out of the white ones but the bigger change was in the wiring as the parking lights changed from the indicators to the headlights (or vice versa).

[Graeme]

I doubt any Toranas at Bathurst 72 had orange lenses as the ADR requiring them only came in from some time in (early?) '73. Colour pics of Brock, McPhee, Forbes, Holland and Moore all show white lenses at '72 race. The change of lenses may have happened towards the end of '72 if they ran out of the white ones but the bigger change was in the wiring as the parking lights changed from the indicators to the headlights (or vice versa).

I tend to agree Peter ... ADR #6 effective January 1973 ... same goes for the HQ Holdens, where amber indicator lenses went into the bumper and the parking light was incorporated into the headlight sealed beam unit.

[singer]

I doubt any Toranas at Bathurst 72 had orange lenses as the ADR requiring them only came in from some time in (early?) '73. Colour pics of Brock, McPhee, Forbes, Holland and Moore all show white lenses at '72 race. The change of lenses may have happened towards the end of '72 if they ran out of the white ones but the bigger change was in the wiring as the parking lights changed from the indicators to the headlights (or vice versa).

Peter, I didn't say at Bathurst. :)

My Father bought his LJ XU1's one in Dec 72 & the other toward the end of Jan 73, following a series of LC XU1's.

Graeme you are correct in the ADRs being a Factor, as am I when I stated you could have either depending on which Day they were being built as GMH were preparing for the Changover:)

After his Torana experiences, he then went to Gulson's Canberra Speed Shop & bought an Alfa Romeo Guilia 1300. A beautiful Vehicle with a propensity to snap Clutch Cables on a regular basis (weekly My Father's rather heavy use of the clutch dropping it at High Revs)

[Peter Minahan]

Peter, I didn't say at Bathurst. :)

My Father bought his LJ XU1's one in Dec 72 & the other toward the end of Jan 73, following a series of LC XU1's.

Graeme you are correct in the ADRs being a Factor, as am I when I stated you could have either depending on which Day they were being built as GMH were preparing for the Changover:)

After his Torana experiences, he then went to Gulson's Canberra Speed Shop & bought an Alfa Romeo Guilia 1300. A beautiful Vehicle with a propensity to snap Clutch Cables on a regular basis (weekly My Father's rather heavy use of the clutch dropping it at High Revs)

No worries, but I thought this thread was related to the cars as they appeared at Bathurst '72.

[Graeme]

...

My Father bought his LJ XU1's one in Dec 72 & the other toward the end of Jan 73, following a series of LC XU1's.

...


I'm curious as to why your father bought two XU-1s at essentially the same time ... I mean, everyone has heard the line about Jaguars whereby you need two of them, one to drive whilst the other one is in the workshop ...

[singer]

I'm curious as to why your father bought two XU-1s at essentially the same time ... I mean, everyone has heard the line about Jaguars whereby you need two of them, one to drive whilst the other one is in the workshop ...

To answer that one I'd have to be a mind reader:D.

However I'll attempt to answer by saying that , my Dad believes that he has the skill of the Great Juan Manual Fangio & doesn't (to the point where my Son won't ride in a Vehicle of any type when he is the driver) so your analogy with Jags isn't to far from the mark;)

BTW before the Torries he had numerous Jags:rolleyes: