Clarification on the 1/43 Bright/Reindler 2009 Bathurst car -William Hall/Chris Roche

[edy]

To Chris/William.

Firstly, I would like to congratulate Biante on a very job well done on your 1/43 FGs. They are extremely authentic compared to your competitor. I am impressed with your take on the 8 spoke A-Tek rims, exhaust and the front grille. I especially like the detail in the front grille where you can see a yellow airbox from DJR and the green colored airbox for Britek.

I wish to seek clarification on the above named car that was recently released.

Here is the rear of the DJR season car with some alcohol related decals 'Know your limit, drink responsibly'.

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Here is the rear of the Bright/Reindler model. As you can see, it seems that the same alcohol related decals ''Know your limit, drink responsibly' that belong to DJR have also be applied to the car? ;)

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Enclosed is the picture of Brighty's car following its melee at the beginning of the race. Source of pic - Bathurst 2009 book There is no decal on the rear bootlit.


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Has a small oversight occured where staff applying the alcohol related decals to the DJR cars also accidently applied it to Bright/Reindler's car?

[Maq]

Deffin8tly should not be on the green car. What about the spelling. Is that correct?

[edy]

Deffin8tly should not be on the green car. What about the spelling. Is that correct?

good pick up on spelling

it should be 'responsibly'

[1:43]

Sorry to change the topic (slightly) I was down at DJR this morning and the boys were telling me that at each round the driver on the forklift (decal) was changed with a different team member. Points were given for where the car finished each round and at the end of the year the person with the most points got a pize.

[8hype]

that is very worrying that decal being wrong.but then again.looking very closely at that pic there is some sort of writing there

[1:43]

Not much they can do now. I doubt that they could get all the cars back to fix them. But maybe they will check the 1:18 before sending the out.
Is there a safe way to remove the decal??

[inter]

here is my photo from bathurst

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/inter66/D SC_0651.jpg

[onfire]

w/d edy nice find

[edy]

thanks onfire.

i guess if i wasnt buying the DJR cars I wouldnt have detected this.

it looked strange at first and then when i got home and looked in the Bathurst 2k9 book it confirmed my suspicions

[HRT1]

yeh no ways brighty would of carried that decal. mistake it looks like

[Rob]

As the designer of the livery it definately wasn't on car 25.
I hope it doesn't appear on the other scales too???

[Leigh]

I hope we haven't regressed to the old days where close enough was good enough and mistakes were constantly signed off as being OK.

I guess I'll be hitting the back with nail polish remover...

[spiderken17]

wrong shape or size decals is one things but an extra one from a completely different car is pretty inexcusable. I'm not a stickler for accuracy in my models but i wont be happy paying $200+ for a mistake like that on my 1:18. I hope they take notice and have the problem resolved.

[brchi17]

wrong shape or size decals is one things but an extra one from a completely different car is pretty inexcusable. I'm not a stickler for accuracy in my models but i wont be happy paying $200+ for a mistake like that on my 1:18. I hope they take notice and have the problem resolved.

Absolutely! That's a monumental **** up and it's hard to explain how something like this has slipped through the process, the spelling mistake is bad enough!
Hopefully it's been found in time for all other scales

[Waynestr]

The offending decal(s) can be easily removed with nail polish remover, but it must be ACETONE FREE.

[david5]

Might be a one off, has anyone else got one ?

[1:43]

I have two and they both have it on the back :(:(

[edy]

Additionally some further questions have arisen

1. Are the 1/43 FG and VEs made out of resin? They seem very light?

2. For the 1/43 DJR cars - my friend bought some at the Sydney race from DJR, and the even though they are the same production - his bonnet grilles were black and did not have the kelvar coloured finish?

[model_mad]

still no response, all so familiar!

[William Hall]

still no response, all so familiar!

Thanks for the Vote of confidence there model_mad!!!

First up, lets agree that a mistake has been made.

Final samples were approved in Australia and were correct, however the initial run of FG 1:43rds were the DJR and Britek FG's and clearly a Mistake has been made in the factory that was not addressed up there prior to delivery to OZ.

We can confirm that the logo in question is a water decal, and as such can be removed carefully using extreme caution. We would probably steer clear of nail polish remover or anything quite like that, but carefully (can i say carefully anymore!) using your thumbnail, gently scraping the decal should remove it.

We cannot guarantee that things like this won't happen again, but you can be assured that we do everything we can possibly do to get your models as accurate as possible.
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[ratster70]

UMMMMMAAAAAA biante made a mistake:p well william i think its great that you can publicly announce it and admit it unlike some other companies who i wont name a credit to you guys ;)

[William Hall]

Additionally some further questions have arisen

1. Are the 1/43 FG and VEs made out of resin? They seem very light?

2. For the 1/43 DJR cars - my friend bought some at the Sydney race from DJR, and the even though they are the same production - his bonnet grilles were black and did not have the kelvar coloured finish?

In Answer to these questions:

1) No - Diecast. There were a very limited run (about 100) #17 DJR Season of Endurance FG's done for DJR for Bathurst that were resin, but the rest are diecast. You can also tell the difference with these cars, as the product code starts with BR rather than just the B

2) Yes, again, a small run were delivered to DJR at Homebush - these were the first of the Season run and were slightly different to the final production run that you can buy instore or from our website.

Just to add to this, Clearly 2009 has been our first year back in V8's for sometime and as such we have been trying to get these cars out to our collectors as quickly as possible. This explains a few of these anomalies that appear to be creeping in. That said, development has already started on our 2010 V8 Supercar Collection, and we hope to start delivery of these to you in a very timely manner this year as we have started the year earlier than last. Also, this year will be the first time in a long time that you will be able to collect your favourite V8 Supercar by mid year of the year it raced!
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[Rascot]

UMMMMMAAAAAA biante made a mistake:p well william i think its great that you can publicly announce it and admit it unlike some other companies who i wont name a credit to you guys ;)

You're not talking about the company that makes corn chips are you :laugh4:

[8hype]

thanks william.i must say i am very excited about biante doing the v8's this year.especially seeing the low numbers produced of other models about to come out.i wonder if we may see one off liveries produced in limited numbers as they run this year.would be very exciting if biante can do this.i get this feeling that biante are going to raise the bar this year for model collecting.this could be the greatest year ever.especially when the likes of william are asking for feedback about cars they are thinking of producing.

[ratster70]

You're not talking about the company that makes corn chips are you :laugh4:

I said i wouldnt name them all i will say is you cant say No!!:p;)

[brchi17]

so have we got an updated decal kit with the correct spelling?

[Rascot]

I said i wouldnt name them all i will say is you cant say No!!:p;)

No worries, as long as it wasn't "once you pop you can't stop" :laugh4:

[spiderken17]

still no response, all so familiar!

I think that would be the other company.

I am more than happy with the amount of feedback and responses the Biante staff give us, as they don't have to give us any and we would still buy their product (everyone still buys CC cars).
I'm glad they didn't just give the usual "we try our best from the information we have at hand" spiel without acknowledging there is a problem. Good on 'em for admitting it and hopefully steps will be taken to correct it.

[onfire]

thanks for the update william
just a side question will this be on the 1:18's or the 1:64's or will you guys be able to removethe decal in question before they hit the market?

[Kashmir]

In Answer to these questions:

1) No - Diecast. There were a very limited run (about 100) #17 DJR Season of Endurance FG's done for DJR for Bathurst that were resin, but the rest are diecast. You can also tell the difference with these cars, as the product code starts with BR rather than just the B

2) Yes, again, a small run were delivered to DJR at Homebush - these were the first of the Season run and were slightly different to the final production run that you can buy instore or from our website.

Just to add to this, Clearly 2009 has been our first year back in V8's for sometime and as such we have been trying to get these cars out to our collectors as quickly as possible. This explains a few of these anomalies that appear to be creeping in. That said, development has already started on our 2010 V8 Supercar Collection, and we hope to start delivery of these to you in a very timely manner this year as we have started the year earlier than last. Also, this year will be the first time in a long time that you will be able to collect your favourite V8 Supercar by mid year of the year it raced!

Thanks for that William, looking forward to seeing this years cars already!

[minh427]

No worries, as long as it wasn't "once you pop you can't stop" :laugh4:

Pringles makes models now?? Does it come the tube?? :p;)

[Rascot]

Pringles makes models now?? Does it come the tube?? :p;)


Yes they do.

[Leigh]

so have we got an updated decal kit with the correct spelling?

Surprised noone has said yet, but why are we using decals in the first place?

[brchi17]

very true Leigh, I don't know the answer, perhaps it's a quicker way to work with the resin bodies, or perhaps it comes down to $$$ :confused:

[William Hall]

thanks for the update william
just a side question will this be on the 1:18's or the 1:64's or will you guys be able to removethe decal in question before they hit the market?

I hope not... 64th samples received so far don't and the factory knows of the problem, so we hope their won't be any issues.

The 1:18th isn't as far down the production lifecycle so i hope i can say defiantly not...
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[edy]

First up, lets agree that a mistake has been made.

Final samples were approved in Australia and were correct, however the initial run of FG 1:43rds were the DJR and Britek FG's and clearly a Mistake has been made in the factory that was not addressed up there prior to delivery to OZ.

We cannot guarantee that things like this won't happen again, but you can be assured that we do everything we can possibly do to get your models as accurate as possible.

Thanks for your honesty William and for Biante for having the guts to stand up and admit that a mistake occured and to provide a solution.

This is more than what your competitor has done! :D:D

[onfire]

I hope not... 64th samples received so far don't and the factory knows of the problem, so we hope their won't be any issues.

The 1:18th isn't as far down the production lifecycle so i hope i can say defiantly not...

thanks again william for your prompt response, make sure u get paided overtime when answering these questions after hours......;)

[supa-roo]

Surprised noone has said yet, but why are we using decals in the first place?

Whats with the water slide decals ?
Does this mean we'll be able to buy blanks one day and apply whatever livery we want ?

[model_mad]

UMMMMMAAAAAA biante made a mistake:p well william i think its great that you can publicly announce it and admit it unlike some other companies who i wont name a credit to you guys ;)
Yeah i jumped the gun slightly, good for coming out and admitting it. and even providing solution.

[1:43]

William, thanks for the replies.

Yes if you scratch the decals, carefully they come off without any hassle. :)

How long until someone makes a correctly spelt decal to replace the DJR ones? :rolleyes:

Even with the mistakes, if they are sat side by side with the other FG's that are available they are still far superior. :cool:

[1:43]

Does this mean we'll be able to buy blanks one day and apply whatever livery we want ?

Hey Supa, I asked Chris this question in another post and I liked the sound of the reply :cool::cool:

http://forums.biante.com.au/showpost.php?p=374620&postcount=20

"1:43 - working on your request. FG easy, VE not so easy but working on it!"

[onfire]

edy- in the first post its shows the djr car what number is it17 or 18??
thanks

[edy]

edy- in the first post its shows the djr car what number is it17 or 18??
thanks



can't remember. all I know is that both cars had that issue

[onfire]

edy on the #17 car
does the end plate have "3" on it?

[1:43]

My 17 car has "3" on the end plates, the 18 car has "club assist" on them. Interestingly my 17 doesn't have the "drink responsibly" decal on it at all. (Maybe that's where the extra ones for the bright cars came from) :rolleyes::rolleyes:

My cars are from the first run (before christmas). Not that, that should make a difference, but maybe the later ones are different???

[1:43]

Sorry, Just noticed the new thread about this! :o

[edy]

edy- in the first post its shows the djr car what number is it17 or 18??
thanks

It was 17 - I compared it to a T8 Falcon and there are material differences.

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Sorry if this post is finalised. It's been split and its all too confusing!!