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Formula
31-03-2010, 07:39 AM
In one of the for sale threads I remember reading that the guy had simply 'lost interest' in collecting these models.
Which got me thinking, how do people, especially serious collectors with 50+ 1/18 models, not lose interest? Most collectors seem to make the claim their cars have never been displayed, so how do some people just have thousands of dollars sitting in a wardrobe somewhere without getting the joy of at least having them on display?
I own about 20 1/18's and they are all in my wardrobe, never to be on display until my house gets finished and I acquire a suitable dust proof cabinet. From time to time it feels like quite a waste though.
So the long and short of it, how do people maintain their love for these models? Especially if they never have any intention of displaying them.
2QUIETLYCOLLECTATWORK
31-03-2010, 07:45 AM
I think my collection is over 60 in 1/18 now and none of them are on display ( i don't have the guts to display them as yet - 3 years down the track ) - i doubt i will ever display the signed ones but i keep my interest up by meeting the drivers etc and getting them signed so i can say that i have met them and had a chat .
Just my 2c worth :)
2QC at work
njf015
31-03-2010, 08:03 AM
Had all of mine (around 20) in wardrobe and cupboard for the first 5 or 6 years of collecting. Wasnt buying too many (as only collect Bathurst Winners). Then in 2007 bought a ex-shop display and since then has blown out to 40+ models as I have started to 'broaden my horizons'.... Glad I got the cabinet though, as felt they were not being remembered properley being stored in a cupboard. If never displaying, or at least getting them out to look at, you may as well just put the $$ spent in the cupboard.
smokey_dj
31-03-2010, 08:06 AM
at current only half my cars are on display (43) due to no glass for there ass
so the others are currently being stored wherever i can find space but if i had the glass or room i would have them all displayed my only acception to that rule is when the supercars come out each yr where i keep them all safe in their box's till the members only is issued then i sell swap which ever is to become the members only model
other than that i go to every meet i possibly can to see the cars in the flesh to maintain intrest that and im a bargain huner with alot of gaps still to fill due to only collecting since august 08 so thats what gets me by :D
sleepy
31-03-2010, 08:07 AM
I have 80 1:18 around 40 1:43 and 90 or so 1:64 all on display with the 1:64 and some of the 1:43 still in their boxes and another 10 or so 1:18 still in boxes as i dont have much more cabinet space. My wife once said (she regrets it now) if you give up smoking you can spend all the money you want on models. Unfortunately i dont have all the money i want and i dont even spend half the money i spent on cigarettes, on models but i enjoy collecting the models more than i did smoking. I enjoy looking at them moving them around sometimes to make more room planning my next cabinets etc the only time i will lose the passion is when 1 day im old (well older than i am now) and they have to be packed away in their boxes to be handed on or sold.
Leigh
31-03-2010, 08:40 AM
Got over 500 models in the wardrobe in boxes...they sit there in hope of one day being displayed, but competing priorities with time and $$$ prevents me from completing the display area!
So until that is addressed, they will continue to live in the dark...many of the models are "never displayed" and some are "never opened"...
Currently have around another 50 models on display.
How do people maintain their love for these models? Well, I don't own a 1:1 toy so, this is my way of owning lots of Aussie muscle cars! I often think of bailing out & selling my collection, however, once I see a collection on display I think about how great they look and vow NEVER to sell mine.
david5
31-03-2010, 10:26 AM
I've been collecting for a long time, over 25 years, my interest level goes up & down depending on what else is going on, but I've never thought about stopping.
Went through a 3 year period when everything was packed away after a move, but still bought a few during that time. Everything is now on display but space is getting tight, the minister for war & finance put the kybosh on the last cabinet with the rotating shelves, but has approved a new built in one in the model room which will see all the models in one cabinet with room to expand.
Being a member on several forums has also fired my enthusiasm over the last couple of years.
Holdennumber1
31-03-2010, 01:40 PM
Sometimes I lose interest but I regain it every time I open the box of a new model for the first time. It may sound wierd but I love the smell of a new 1:18.:o:)
Plus mine are on display and I always love showing my car mad uncles and cousins my latest addition.
I know that a lot of the time its not possible to display them and thats fair enough but IMO, they're useless while being kept in storage for no one to look at and appreciate.
superfly
01-04-2010, 11:26 AM
I know that a lot of the time its not possible to display them and thats fair enough but IMO, they're useless while being kept in storage for no one to look at and appreciate.
I agree. I've only just started collecting cars but each one is on display already.
Sometimes I lose interest but I regain it every time I open the box of a new model for the first time. It may sound wierd but I love the smell of a new 1:18.:o:)
Plus mine are on display and I always love showing my car mad uncles and cousins my latest addition..
If you keep this up, the packaging will come with a warning label soon.
Warning: Sniffing model cars can become addictive.
Yeah, I love showing family & friends too. Most people are surprised at first. It's funny how so many people don't even know of Biante OR Classic C's.... do they live in a cave? Or should Biante consider more target advertising? Several people who have seen my collection became interested and are now collecting themselves.
Richard Poole
01-04-2010, 03:11 PM
Got over 500 models in the wardrobe in boxes...they sit there in hope of one day being displayed, but competing priorities with time and $$$ prevents me from completing the display area!
So until that is addressed, they will continue to live in the dark...many of the models are "never displayed" and some are "never opened"...
Currently have around another 50 models on display.
Exactly the same situation as me Leigh. I've got 200 odd 1:18's and about 40 or so 1:43 in total and only 20 1:18's on display. I have the room and cabinets planned but also a long list of priorities to work through before I get to work on them.
I just look forward to the day when I can display all of my models. The LM winners and F1 champs will look great when they all get to come out and play. It'll come. Eventually. Until then I will keep adding to the collection so that when they do come out, it'll look even better.
louieate8ate
01-04-2010, 04:02 PM
[quote=Holdennumber1;392494]Sometimes I lose interest but I regain it every time I open the box of a new model for the first time. It may sound wierd but I love the smell of a new 1:18.:o:)
That will be the thinners in the paint !! ;):)
alfa156
01-04-2010, 04:16 PM
About three years ago I was running a small business that was losing money nearly every week. I sold most of my collection in one go to a diecast model retailer that included most of the Allan Moffat and Peter Brock, and Bathurst winners collection all 1/18 scale. Ended up having about 20 models left. Just started to get back into now when I purchased last month the Allan Moffat Porsche 935 that he raced at LeMans with Bobby Rahal. I almost cry tears of blood to see the value of such models like 78 and 79 Brock toranas, the 77 twin set and 84 Brock Porsche.
brchi17
01-04-2010, 04:22 PM
I know how you feel Rich and Leigh as I too am in that boat. One day I will have a massive shrine to display them in, however getting that built is a long way from the top of the priorities list atm, think it's somewhere on page 2.....What drives me is knowing that I've got some awesome cars that one day I'll be able to show off :cool:
Richard Poole
01-04-2010, 06:03 PM
What drives me is knowing that I've got some awesome cars that one day I'll be able to show off :cool:
And the longer you leave it the more awesome cars there will be!
My brother has offered me his services to help unbox all of my cars when the cabinets go in but I think that'll be a job for me and me alone. I get jumpy when others handle my cars and since (like Leigh said) most have never been taken from their boxes I think I'll take my time and enjoy the process myself. It'll be like Christmas that lasts for days.
HQGTS74
01-04-2010, 06:13 PM
Maybe we need more window boxes:D.
I never thought anyone would collect models and keep them in their boxes, as IMO, there's no point having them unless you have them on display where you and others can admire them. I understand if collectors have their cars boxed and intend on displaying them sometime in the future, but what's the point of a collection of boxes? Maybe an investment, but that's completely different to collecting for enjoyment IMO. I'm having to start to keep my new additions in their boxes, but only until i find more room (another cabinet:p) to display them in, and hopefully spread out the ones i already have, because for me even having them all packed together detracts from the enjoyment of my models. Would rather have them on an angle where i can see more of them.;)
That's how i maintain my interest in models, not that it's ever lost, but i also occassionaly take a model out of the cabinet for a better look, and actually open the doors etc. We pay $200 for these features, we may as well take a better look.:D
Cheers,
Chris
P.S - NO one touches my models either lol, but me!
Damage
01-04-2010, 06:19 PM
I started a thread about this a while back. Sometimes giving the cabinet a shuffle helps. Few other suggestions and comments in the thread I mentioned:
http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?t=14653
grease
01-04-2010, 06:21 PM
I have about 50 cars in all different scales, stopped collecting as saving but would like to get more cars just have to priorities, find a bigger place then a cabinet. Even though I have stopped I dont think I will ever lose interest.
Waynestr
01-04-2010, 07:13 PM
PLEASE NEVER BRING BACK WINDOW BOXES.They are to flimsy and the perspex becomes very brittle.Just wish Biante would delete the holding screws as per Classics .I have about two hundred quality models, 1/18 only, but I am fast losing interest when a certain manufacturer builds a model that has been made many years ago by Biante,and the value of the original one just plummets. (65E,64E, 28C, 78 Bathurst Moffat Cobra etc). Where will it end, when there are so many that could be made, ( McCormack Charger, Bartlett Camaro etc etc).
malscar
02-04-2010, 07:05 AM
Every so often I will change the theme in one of the display cabinets. About 6 months ago it was only V8s, now only rally cars. Just like any museum, not everything can be displayed, but by changing the displays, you can keep the cabinets fresh.
louieate8ate
02-04-2010, 05:02 PM
Went to the 06 Muscle car Masters to see the Super Falcon on the track.Mate said that they were making a model of it and I got one,now I have 63 1:18's all in cabinets so I can look at them.I only buy what I like the look of and will keep collecting as long as the good looking liveries keep coming.Prior to 06 never new these TOYS existed !!
ratster70
03-04-2010, 05:12 AM
Went to the 06 Muscle car Masters to see the Super Falcon on the track.Mate said that they were making a model of it and I got one,now I have 63 1:18's all in cabinets so I can look at them.I only buy what I like the look of and will keep collecting as long as the good looking liveries keep coming.Prior to 06 never new these TOYS existed !!
AHEM:rolleyes: only the stoopid government classes them as toys hence why we cant get the cigarette sponsorship decals on them they are collectors items thankyou:p lol
FastRedCars
03-04-2010, 06:45 AM
I started a thread about this a while back. Sometimes giving the cabinet a shuffle helps. Few other suggestions and comments in the thread I mentioned:
http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?t=14653
Just finished reading all of this thread, and the similar one (above) started by "damage". What a great read ! Its nice to be reassured that you're not the only grown man who still buys toy cars (LOL). But here's a tip for some : if you possibly can, then get 'em out, and on display. Mine were locked away while I lived in a Flat; but once I got a House, I got suitable cabinets (built the wall ones, bought the floor ones). Best fun thing I ever did ! I enjoy them, my visitors (even the non-car people) enjoy them, and it keeps your interest up. Had a Footy team Re-union recently, and the After-party was at my digs. Blokes I went to school with, and who didn't know I collected, were blown away. Even the non-car blokes had a few coldies and a good ogle (only through the glass - no touching allowed ). Was a buzz to see so many other people enjoy them. Only way to go, I reckon.
Formula
04-04-2010, 10:45 PM
I can relate, no one handles or touches my cars except me. Two years with the missus she's still not allowed near them haha.
Some interesting things mentioned in this thread. I find their value pretty hard to justify at times as well. There's a lot of dollars just sitting there. They do look oh so nice though.
fordmad17
05-04-2010, 06:22 AM
I have 178 1/18s and around 300 1/64s all on display in dust free cabinets. I only had alook at my very first model the Johnson Lakeside 79 XC the other day and it has been there for just over 9 years and is still like brand new.........
Holdennumber1
05-04-2010, 07:49 AM
Some interesting things mentioned in this thread. I find their value pretty hard to justify at times as well. There's a lot of dollars just sitting there. They do look oh so nice though. The good thing is that they'll hold value more than basically anything else you buy though (which is the way I convince my dad to let me get any model I want with my money:D). You could stop collecting and spend the extra cash on new TV's or furniture but they'll be worth stuff all in 5 years time.
And if there are ever any problems down the track, you can get a fair percentage back of what you paid by selling them off. Or if you really shop around and know your stuff, maybe even more than what you paid for them.
wayno
05-04-2010, 10:18 AM
Need to get back to mum's place and make a new list of what I do and do not have as mine was on my laptop when we were robbed. Makes browsing ebay at the moment very hard.
As to the interest thing, I have given serious thought to selling off my unknown number of 1:18's as being robbed has made me question the wisdom of owning something this valuable.
However when the subjct was raised my fiancee vetoed the idea in no uncertain terms. Better do as I'm told I suppose. :D
david5
05-04-2010, 10:28 AM
Can't live in fear of the worst case scenario wayno, then the SOBs have won.
brchi17
05-04-2010, 04:57 PM
I knew I liked that lady for a reason :D lol !!!
Formula
06-04-2010, 06:52 AM
I never thought model cars would be a target in a robbery. Average burgler wouldn't have any ideas about what most of them are worth and would probably write them off as 'toys'. At least, that's what I would have thought.
Holdennumber1
06-04-2010, 09:14 AM
I never thought model cars would be a target in a robbery. Average burgler wouldn't have any ideas about what most of them are worth and would probably write them off as 'toys'. At least, that's what I would have thought. Unfortunately, a member on here had part of their collection stolen while renevations were being done on their house so there must be a few people out there who know what they're worth.
The thing is, without their boxes and COA's and most likely damaged from being stolen, they wouldn't be worth a whole lot of money anyway. Thats unless the person who brakes in also steals the boxes and takes great care in getting them out without damage.
The burgler would also have to take care in where they sell them as a whole lot of members on Biante and CC visit ebay and trademe regularly and a heap of models without their boxes all from the same seller would look pretty suss.
Wot State Were These Taken From, Also Mixed,f1,gmh,blue Ovel,euro.
One Can Let One Know With More Info. No Box 10,20 Model's Mmm Suss.
One Seller.
njf015
07-04-2010, 05:00 AM
had my place broken into a few years ago. took the PS2, DVD's games, camera etc, but left the $400-$500 value models I had on top of my TV cabinet....
superfly
09-04-2010, 03:29 PM
had my place broken into a few years ago. took the PS2, DVD's games, camera etc, but left the $400-$500 value models I had on top of my TV cabinet....
My place was broken into about 3 years ago and they took the PS2 but left the AV cord for it, all the jewellery and 2 of my cars which were about $70 each. They left all my games, dvd's and cd's.
Billy Bob
04-05-2010, 12:06 PM
I'm building a house at the moment so all my cars are in storage except for my really special ones and ones that I have bought since moving in with the outlaws to maintain my interest I frequently get them out and study ten one at a time I also read peoples threads like this :) lol, but if anyone ever stole my car collection I would be devastated I have my entire collection insured for roughly market value and I change certain idividual cars on my policy from time to time but even though I would get my money back it just wouldn't be the same knowing that some cars I would never be able to get again not to mention the fact that some little grub had been in my house an felt he could help himself to my things yerk makes my skin crawl just thinking about it :(
nrma dave
05-05-2010, 08:13 AM
ive been collecting for12 years and have 341 1/43 (all v8 supercars) which are still in boxs in my loft, ive only oppened two, the team brock and john deere cc. im curently building my 2 cases which are 2400x1200 and cant wait to see them opened on display and enjoyed every day with a beer or cup of coffee. i cant loose interest...i wont....
downhiller1979
06-05-2010, 04:19 PM
I lose interest during the winter months (now) as the downhill season is on. I need the spare money for bike parts etc. Somehow I always seem to get the passion back over the summer months. I'm hoping it will be the same this year.
MP4/22
15-05-2010, 10:06 AM
What a Great thread !! I have been collecting since late 2004 first car was a 1/18 R kelly k mart car, I saw a Lowndes CAT car by CC a few weeks before and spent the next few weeks trying to find where to buy them ( I live 300Km away from a Diecast Shop ) I got the k mart car besause of the race at winton that year, and Bathurst. I had at one point had about 30 1/18s all HRT, now I manly collect BRL 1/43 all 50ish, plus my 1/18's ........ but only have one cabinet........
wazza
16-05-2010, 10:42 AM
I've lost interest in V8s, focus has shifted to T.V/movie cars and cars I'd like to own but never will, suffering the issue of display space, I display ALL of my models cos that's what they are made for, but I'm running out of room which is slowing down my buying.
My Element
16-05-2010, 11:30 AM
I have run out of room, so i have the majority in the cartons that they get delivered to the shops in. I have 2 of the Bertby cabinets from ikea and 4 Auto art 4 tier display units which are no longer available. My room, office and have another room full with just boxes. Seriously thinking about storing some at some of my family's homes as it would be cheaper on insurance and give me more room here.
bills
24-05-2010, 05:51 PM
Ive lost abit of interest in collecting. models these days are getting higher and higher. rather spend money on other things.
Some interesting things mentioned in this thread. I find their value pretty hard to justify at times as well. There's a lot of dollars just sitting there. They do look oh so nice though.
I went through the same thing earlier this year
Except mine was "I have all these model cars here, but don't even have a real one" (my daily drive is a Ford Focus :()
So I sold 30 odd 1:18 to invest in a weekend cruiser
Still have 60+ 1:18's which I couldn't bear to part with
Formula
25-05-2010, 06:06 PM
I'm getting a bit like it again now actually. I have an unrego'd VL Calais available to me that I want to buy to restore. Selling about four 1/18's would cover the purchase.
Deep down I know I would probably end up buying them all back over time at a higher price though.
Holdennumber1
25-05-2010, 06:41 PM
I lose interest every time I havn't bought a model for a while. Then when another comes, its like I started the hobby all over again.
barnart
25-05-2010, 07:42 PM
I haven't purcahsed a model in 2 years as I have all the ones I want as Ford GT's & Brocks, cabinet is full and thats it.
Tumbo
25-05-2010, 07:54 PM
i've managed to steer clear of the impulse buys and sold off the few that were leaving me w/ a collection that is 'complete' if I needed to stop today and only has space for specific models to finally be finished..........have never 'lost interest' in what I have but there have been times i've stopped buying for mths and haven't been worried.
I would like to get some cabinets for my 1/18s but that can wait..........
Damage
25-05-2010, 08:06 PM
Cabinet space is my issue too. The ones I like and that match the existing ones are $1200 plus $300 for extra custom shelves.
Thought seriously about giving it up recently (as per another thread) but have not had the minerals to sell up totally. Over the last 12 months I have lightened up on doubles/triples/signed cars, but have kept my favourite 'must-haves'. Still a LOT in boxes, and maybe 80 on display.
I would love to build-in a whole wall of shelving with a glass front though. A friend has a display wall that runs up beside his staircase and is maybe 5m x 3m. I'll get a pic next time I'm over there, pretty impressive.
I only collect 1:18 V8 Supercars now, use to collect all scales but the detail of the 1:18 just keeps me more intruiged. So I will eventually sell off all my smaller scales, which will give me a little more room. I have 2 full cabinets of 1:18s already but the better detail & closer attention to detail (meaning a better model overall) is getting me excited for models in years to come....
Dont think i will lose interest too quickly. Not a day goes by when i dont have a look at my models
Splatcat03
26-05-2010, 05:32 PM
I have around 80 1:18 Ford Supercars and a couple of non-supercar race cars. Unfortunately I don't have the room to display any of them so they just sit in the cupboard, which is a shame as they would look awesome on display. I have slowed down on my collecting, buying only the couple of drivers I like plus any special releases and I have sold off close to half of my collection. it is getting too expensive to maintain the rage collecting all of the Ford Supercars and I am running out of room.
louieate8ate
26-05-2010, 05:49 PM
Sometimes I wish I would lose interest in models,for awhile at least.I have a VL V8 project that I have not done anything to for 3 years.Obviously I haven't collected enough yet!!
Holdennumber1
26-05-2010, 08:07 PM
I have a VL V8 project that I have not done anything to for 3 years. Yes, I know, very off topic but go turbo instead of a V8.;) Theres much more to work with.
Anyway, i just decided tonight that i won't be buying anymore new release 1:18's after I pay for all my pre-orders (a massive 2 models and 1 will be here soon). It'll all be oldies from now seeing the cost of these things keeps going up and up.
Formula
31-05-2010, 07:42 AM
Yes, I know, very off topic but go turbo instead of a V8.;) Theres much more to work with.
I know, also very off topic. Go a V8, much better noise.
I'll be selling up a few of mine to fund a car project soon. Probably cut the population by about half I think.
moffatxc
08-06-2010, 08:51 PM
not lost interest, but as astuden models are getting too expensive
David Paterson
09-06-2010, 08:30 AM
I've lost interest, i haven't bought any new models for several years and now i'm thinking of selling some of my collection. I keep thinking of all the other things i could do with the money. Most of these things involve my 1:1.
commanderwhite
09-06-2010, 07:44 PM
I have all the Brock models in 1/18 scale & they are all on display in my Brock Bar - I never got Peter to sign on any of the cars just the COA's.
One day when I learn how to reduce a photo I will post here pictures of my collection & bar.
Maximus
09-06-2010, 08:04 PM
commanderwhite, jump on WEBSHOTS or some other free online photo hosting site.
Upload the pics to there and then put up a link in here to those pics.
Easy as mate.
Would be great to see your collection.
v8coupe
09-06-2010, 08:35 PM
Becoming redundant at work as there closing up, could force a loss of interest in collecting. Dam R35 Skyline has been released to. Was looking forward to that.
Na, could never lose interest but tastes do change. I think when you get your collection in the direction that you want it, it costs less to upkeep. Eg for the Bathurst winners collectors only a handfull of gaps to fill now, & soon will only have to buy 1 per year.
I've certainly used ebay to get rid of stuff I've lost interest in (and run out of room) plus pick up the ones that were missed when released new. Good to know there will always be a market.
I think it's fair to say that the collectors of today's V8SC's can easily think enough is enough, particularly when up to half their collection is on ebay for 1/2 price. I mean how many VE/BF/FG's could someone want? These days I buy 2 and maybe 3 V8SC's per year. I really don't know why there is much of an interest at all in the bottom rung of V8SC models & why people would pay rrp for them. Have a look on ebay at how many 2nd tier 2-6 year old V8SC's are listed where they can be purchased for about 30%-50% rrp. I have no interest in having say 15 VY's.
There were some cheers on this site with the announcement of the 1997 Young Lions Commodore. This thing crashed out in the warm-up. Unless you collected every HRT Commodore, had plenty of room & cash, not sure why you'd buy it IMO.
the_goldie
11-06-2010, 07:31 AM
SDK, you are right about the upkeep once you have your theme going in the right direction and it gets smaller and smaller... I think the Brock collection will never end... I was going down the same way with Moffat and Johnson, but then didn't really want some of the cars that were released in the series as I mainly collect Bathurst cars in 1/18 so was no point in getting other cars at the time. Although will probably fill those gaps as time goes by.
I find that when there is a lull in the new releases I end up buying alot of cars from eBay that I either didn't get when released as I was in two minds about them or they just slid by due to other purchases.
eBay is bad and takes alot of my money when I get bored and want something new ;) I almost bought a car the other day which i didn't think I had but then did a look around and found it on top of my cabinet... That's what happens when you don't keep your records upto date :)
I have been through the losing interest phase, but then I have a look at all my models and go hmmmm, what a great collection. I think about selling some that are on the edge of not wanting but can't bring myself to do it when I think as to why I bought it in the first place.
Of course there are always new themes to start on too which is dangerous, it can be a vicious circle that keeps on going :) Just enjoy the cars you have or the chase finding that elusive model. Sometimes letting new releases go by can be good as you then have to hunt one down. I am still kicking myself about the red dust car as I was unsure about buying one when it was announced then when I wanted one and saw the price I nearly fell over. Lucky it isn't a MUST have but I guess one day it will be that MUST have model for the cabinet.
David Paterson
11-06-2010, 09:51 AM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
Bones
11-06-2010, 09:59 AM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
Don't really want too think about it too much, as i no I could buy a great 1:1, but on that note I love my models
ratster70
11-06-2010, 09:59 AM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
All the time david but to be honest i love my collection just as much as i would my 1:1 so itll have to wait till i get older with more time on my hands to appreciate it more than i could right now ;):D just dont let the wife know lol
All the time david but to be honest i love my collection just as much as i would my 1:1 so itll have to wait till i get older with more time on my hands to appreciate it more than i could right now ;):D just dont let the wife know lol
I agree with you too Rat!
If you can afford to do it, dont count the cost cos it will scare you!
Formula
11-06-2010, 10:24 AM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
My collection isn't too big. But I tallied it up to being able to afford about one quarter (10grand) of the engine for my current 1:1 VL Commodore project.
inter
11-06-2010, 12:06 PM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
I have:o
I could buy a GT-P Fg falcon and have enough to paypetrol for 2 years:rolleyes:
I have:o
I could buy a GT-P Fg falcon and have enough to paypetrol for 2 years:rolleyes:
Gee, it adds up after a while doesn't it.
It does not worry me how much I have spent on models, the thing that annoys me is waisting money on Smoke and heaps of booze over the years. It took me to long to grow up and I could have another $10g atleast on models or panels. Sure I could by a new car but in time I would lose $ on it. New cars are not my thing anyway. I like style and I like not seeing the same car/s next to me at the lights. + I would not have a room and shed full of cool $tuff. At least I got something to show for it rather than weeing down the toilet. Sure I still like a couple of drinks but going stupid is stupid.
no1holdenfan
11-06-2010, 02:48 PM
Hi,
I'm one of those people who had lost interest in model collecting. At the start of the year I sold my 95% complete Bathurst Winners collection in one lump sum. It started with me getting made redundant, after the company I worked for 5 years went into voluntary liquidation. The intention with the money was to get started in motorsport, but then again that dream has changed.
I'm finishing university next week with majors in Accounting and Commercial law and looking at moving over to Australia. On the 25th June, I'm going over to Brisbane (and, hopefully Melbourne) to check out the job market for Graduate Accountants. I would like to stay in New Zealand, but Australia has much better opportunities.
So hopefully it works out for me, as the money is going towards my future. Never know, I could start over again.
P.S. So if anyone knows of any accountancy jobs for a 21 year old, friendly and hardworking graduate, I'm the one. :p
monarocveightz
11-06-2010, 03:06 PM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
Sure have.........Could have bought a Holden Cruze by now:rolleyes::D
Or a 1980's Jaguar XJ6 Series 3 with some work done on it;):rolleyes::D
malscar
11-06-2010, 05:35 PM
Or a 1980's Jaguar XJ6 Series 3 with some work done on it
Is that some work done on it or a never ending moneypit into the future?:p
monarocveightz
11-06-2010, 05:38 PM
Is that some work done on it or a never ending moneypit into the future?:p
Aren't all cars money pits:p:D
Kashmir
11-06-2010, 05:43 PM
Aren't all cars money pits:p:D
Yeah but Jags are even more of a money pit.:p:p
group C
11-06-2010, 05:45 PM
Sure have.........Could have bought a Holden Cruze by now:rolleyes::D
Or a 1980's Jaguar XJ6 Series 3 with some work done on it;):rolleyes::D
what work Codie a heart transplant(Chev)that makes them a great car then!:p
That way you dont need a drip tray under them to recycle the oil..:D
monarocveightz
11-06-2010, 05:46 PM
Yeah but Jags are even more of a money pit.
Trust you to add your two bobs worth:rolleyes::D:p
At least they're not as bad as Alfa's and Lancia's:p
Kashmir
11-06-2010, 05:48 PM
At least they're not as bad as Alfa's and Lancia's:p
Can't disagree there but you forgot to add Renault and Citroen:D
monarocveightz
11-06-2010, 05:50 PM
what work Codie a heart transplant(Chev)that makes them a great car then!:p
That way you dont need a drip tray under them to recycle the oil..:D
The old Jag I6 isn't too bad......only 30kw shy of a Blue meanie from the same era......but a chev would be good.
Electrics would need replacing......as would the 3sp auto.......unless a 5 sp manual version (rare) could be found
singer
11-06-2010, 05:59 PM
This subject is interesting as my Son & I were just talking about our Collection & whether my Son would prefer to do something else with the money which he currently spends on Diecast. The answer was emphatic, NO!
My Son & I gain a lot of pleasure from our Collections.
In 1995 I had my collection professionally valued. At that stage I had a lot less Diecast models than I do now. Even then & much to my surprise, I was looking at a very substantial sum.
The monetary value of my collection is immaterial to me as the only reason I would ever sell any, is for the health & well being of my Family. The last time I sold one model, was when my Wife was dealing with Breast Cancer
Andrew
11-06-2010, 06:14 PM
Hi,
So if anyone knows of any accountancy jobs for a 21 year old, friendly and hardworking graduate, I'm the one. :p
Try getting into the Graduate Programs with the Australian Commonwealth Government.
Andrew
11-06-2010, 06:25 PM
Coming back to this question, no I do not get sick of collecting. I have not lost interest although I spend less time thinking of new releases because I just can't afford them with a new baby and the need to now buy a second car. *sigh*
IF someone was to offer a straight swap for my entire model collection for an excellent condition Australian delivered 1:1 R32 GT-R with full service history (and under 80,000kms) then I'd probably say yes, including the small bits of memorabilia (signed posters etc) I've managed to collect along the way too.
I doubt the opportunity would ever come up, but I love my model collection so much that it would take something special like the real Australian delivered 1:1 for me to part with all the models, magazines, posters and books I've collected about the GT-R over the years.
Apart from that, collecting still gives me great pleasure. I see my line-up of Skylines in 1:64, 1:43, 1:18 and 1:12, across road and race cars, signed posters, team cards, magazines and articles and I remember why I did it. My price to say goodbye to all of it would be an excellent full service history Aussie delivered R32 GT-R.
Waynestr
11-06-2010, 07:10 PM
Is that some work done on it or a never ending moneypit into the future?:p
The second most happiest day in a mans life is when he buys a Jaguar
The happiest day in a mans life is when he sells it !!!!
brchi17
11-06-2010, 07:26 PM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
yes I have, but I don't want to publish it in case someone I know sees it and starts to get ideas of what she could buy with it.....woops, did I say she...:laugh3:
ratster70
11-06-2010, 07:29 PM
yes I have, but I don't want to publish it in case someone I know sees it and starts to get ideas of what she could buy with it.....woops, did I say she...:laugh3:
Well i hope you said SHE:p not that theres anything wrong with that lol
Graeme
11-06-2010, 08:09 PM
The second most happiest day in a mans life is when he buys a Jaguar
The happiest day in a mans life is when he sells it !!!!
It's definitely a love/hate relationship ... I've had my V12 E-Type for thirty years ... bought it in March 1980 for then top dollar, being $14,000 ... could have sold it in the early 1990s when they were fetching best prices of $60K and upward.
I worked at a Holden dealer in the late 70s and lived through the L34/A9X era, but have to say I fell in love with the manual version of Jaguar's V12 the first time I drove one ... good for around 205kW in original Stromberg CD carburettor form, but with another 45kW liberated by adapting six downdraught Weber IDF carburettors. With a standard V12's redline starting at 6,500 rpm, I have always thought these cars sounded better than any V8, bar perhaps a well-sorted 351 Cleveland.
Kashmir
11-06-2010, 08:20 PM
I have always thought these cars sounded better than any V8, bar perhaps a well-sorted 351 Cleveland.
Pfft your forgetting the greatest sounding V8 of all time the Holden 304:p;)
Splatcat03
11-06-2010, 08:51 PM
Pfft your forgetting the greatest sounding V8 of all time the Holden 304:p;)
The Ford 351 sounds awesome, but so does the 327 Chev.
onfire
11-06-2010, 08:55 PM
Has anybody ever tallied up the value of their collection and wondered what sort of 1:1 you coud buy for that much money?
all i know is its costing me a fortune to keep up to date with all the cars they keep bring out, im sure i could by a hk monaro or a walky
Andrew
11-06-2010, 09:14 PM
Pfft your forgetting the greatest sounding V8 of all time the Holden 304:p;)
And here I was thinking that any Ferrari V8 would take the cake as 'best sounding V8 in the world'.....
VXfan
11-06-2010, 10:16 PM
I have lost interest in collecting diecast.It's just too expensive for me to be honest.
I have sold most of my Brock collection and F1 collection.The only collection of note I have now is my Murph one.
The only models I expect to buy this year are both Murph 1/18's (2010 Castrol VE and last years Bathurst car).
I have gone back to making model aircraft (WW2 era) which is massively cheaper and far more rewarding imho.
As I said,diecast is too expensive and now that I've been reading here that more resin kits are being made at pretty much the same cost it confirms that I am making the right decision.
It's a rich mans hobby alright..:(
Cheers,
Tony.
Brutesutes
11-06-2010, 11:08 PM
Agree Tony i'm with you it's become to expensive now ,these company's are going to price us all out of the market .does'nt give anybody a chance to start collecting a theme at all ;be it brock, muffin ,johnson ,bathurst winners, etc I have lost interest all together now :(
supa-roo
12-06-2010, 04:45 AM
I have:o
I could buy a GT-P Fg falcon and have enough to paypetrol for 2 years:rolleyes:
I'm with you Rick :o
Car, Petrol, insurance and tyres for 2 years
inter
12-06-2010, 07:45 AM
I have lost interest in collecting diecast.It's just too expensive for me to be honest.
I have sold most of my Brock collection and F1 collection.The only collection of note I have now is my Murph one.
The only models I expect to buy this year are both Murph 1/18's (2010 Castrol VE and last years Bathurst car).
I have gone back to making model aircraft (WW2 era) which is massively cheaper and far more rewarding imho.
As I said,diecast is too expensive and now that I've been reading here that more resin kits are being made at pretty much the same cost it confirms that I am making the right decision.
It's a rich mans hobby alright..:(
Cheers,
Tony.
I wonder if Biante/CC made only 500 of each model, Improved the quality and Sold them for $500 each.........how many will buy?
I reckon many will. But it will be only collectors that want to buy to make money and no other reason.
malscar
12-06-2010, 08:32 AM
I wonder if Biante/CC made only 500 of each model, Improved the quality and Sold them for $500 each.........how many will buy?
I reckon many will. But it will be only collectors that want to buy to make money and no other reason.
But if it is only the ones who want to make a profit that will shell out $500, then who are they going to on-sell to?
Vectra
12-06-2010, 10:29 AM
I've had enough of it now as well. Sick of once they make a mould of a car they knock out every model the can think of.
Also spend money on a 1;18 thinking oh great it's one of 5000 or whatever, then 12 months later they knock it out in 1;43 too.
I agree, quality is not there for the price either ...take Griceys A9X, cause I moved it around a bit reorganising the cabinet, the Max Aubert started to wear off the front and I noticed when doing the decals the paint around the door numbers is paper thin, pretty bad when I've seen $4.00 matchbox cars stand up to more than that and keep their stickers.
Basically keep the base of what I've got now (Sell a few too)and maybe add a new one at birthdays or xmas if other people buy.
No more new cars will I buy, second hand is fine as I don't care about boxes etc, just like to look at them.
inter
12-06-2010, 07:57 PM
But if it is only the ones who want to make a profit that will shell out $500, then who are they going to on-sell to?
there is always a buyer, I would buy a lot less.......but I would buy
kts350
13-06-2010, 02:36 PM
I dont have huge collection only 12 models and since we live in a small unit and have got bugger all room so my models have to compete with my Starwars Helmets and costume and they use to live in my wardrobe. Having them packed away and the fact i can't afford to buy a lot of models so wasn't always looking at models I found I was really starting to lose interest..
So I had what i call a brain wave (the wife says it was a brain fart) and I built a couple of crapy display boxes.. They not pefect actually they pretty rough given Im hopeless at that stuff.. SO now l can at least have 8 cars on display, I just love standing there every now and again for 10 or 15 min and just look at them makes me happy and keeps the interest levels right there infact at the moment the starwars helmets are in the wardrobe.
biante11500
15-06-2010, 02:40 PM
i've been burnt out on collecting diecast for at least a couple of years now, the quality control keep's getting worse while rpr prices keep raising skyward?? with all the re-peat releases from multiple manufactures the market is saturated globally with models in all forms. i had a good run from 2002 to 2008 collecting aussie cars but lost intrest, just like i did with the american drag cars,,i still collect a few minichamps racing bikes when i can catch them on sale at a good price..im mostly back into building plastic kit's 1/25 scale race cars and 1/12 tamiya racing bikes, building kit's is a lot more rewarding to me personally, compared to shelling out 200+ bucks on every new 1/18 diecast release to keep up with the jones'es! & to usually only end up being dissapointed with poor quality issues with each new diecast release... diecast collecting was a good fad that caught on in the late 1990's & had a good run but i think like most fad's it's about ran it's course & the manufactures are raising prices to try and cash in before the bottom falls completely out of the market all together.
moffatxc
15-06-2010, 03:16 PM
how wonder if all collectors sell their models all at once will that make the market fall out:confused:
how wonder if all collectors sell their models all at once will that make the market fall out:confused:
If there were only 2 houses in your suburb for sale, what would your property be worth? More, no competition
If there were 600 houses on the market in your suburb for sale, what would your house be worth? Less, more competition
The same applies for model cars.
louieate8ate
16-06-2010, 05:06 PM
how wonder if all collectors sell their models all at once will that make the market fall out:confused:
Would be a few bargains anyway !! :D
I Burnt out of collecting a few years ago now. I was getting silly with how big my collection got in any case. I could also no longer justify the prices being charged for what I was after. Especially when you could get a similar model overseas, for 80$ less than the 215 RRP here. The main differences being the paint scheme and minor detail.
I can understand licensing costs and etcetra, but I thought 80$ more was a bit rich. Overall I have probably bought 6 models or so in the last few years, if that.
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 01:59 PM
there is always a buyer, I would buy a lot less.......but I would buyHow often would you buy Inter ? The company's like Biante or CC are here to make a profit not just sell to a few individuals they couldn't survive on lots of 500 ,you would not get any new collectors and the industry would turn stale ,just my thought's :cool:
I’m generally happy with the quality of today’s models from both manufacturers. To put it another way, I don’t want to pay any more for any further quality/detail improvements.
I first thought when Trax announced the Brabham cars & particularly the one where production numbers are yet to be announced at $139 would have included some sort of payment to Sir Jack, hence the “high” price. Now the HK Brougham has been announced in resin at the same price. Well that’s simply too high for me to justify heading in that direction. It would really take some sort of car with massive personal appeal for me to pay that for a 1:43. On the topic, I have little interest in 1:43 resin/diecast anywhere near 100 bucks. Having 1 Trax diecast HK Premier at 43 bucks is OK.
I have said earlier that I have little interest in stock piling today’s V8SC’s. 1-2 per year at the most. There are to many of these cars that are basically the same floating around now. When comparing my 2007 Tander champ car to my 2009 BW, the only real difference is the paint. All other detail is nearly 100% unchanged when as we know there would have been numerous changes to the 1:1’s. I see no point in having 10 or so VE’s for this.
My main interest in Aussie race cars is approx late 1960’s to late 1980’s. Prefer to have a car that has something solid on its CV. As an example I’ll buy the Moff ’74 XB Sandown winner rather than the Bathurst or ATCC entries.
As a hobby though, I can’t see myself ever losing interest.
MOTIV8
21-06-2010, 03:08 PM
The company's like Biante or CC are here to make a profit not just sell to a few individuals they couldn't survive on lots of 500 ,you would not get any new collectors and the industry would turn stale ,just my thought's :cool:
Brutesutes, true but also on the flip side of that, is the problem of losing 'collectors' with mass production - using VK Brock cars as an example.
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 03:13 PM
Brutesutes, true but also on the flip side of that, is the problem of losing 'collectors' with mass production - using VK Brock cars as an example.And the Brock austin :mad: now that killed what should have been an icon model to all of us that loved BROCKY ? I will never forgive Biante for making so many of those cars and now they give them away
rayman
21-06-2010, 03:18 PM
And the Brock austin :mad: now that killed what should have been an icon model to all of us that loved BROCKY ? I will never forgive Biante for making so many of those cars and now they give them away
So you are saying, just because they made a heap of them it is less of an important Brock icon. Huh?
david5
21-06-2010, 03:18 PM
And the Brock austin :mad: now that killed what should have been an icon model to all of us that loved BROCKY ?
I find it interesting that folks consider models "killed" or of no interest just because it's overproduced. The Austins a great model & I have one, paid very little for it, but I paid full tilt for my VK Big Banger, still a great model (despite it's faults). The overproduction was a fiasco for the manufacturers & yes they have died in the bum value wise, but there still nice models, at the end of the day do people collect model cars or $$$$ ?
MOTIV8
21-06-2010, 03:19 PM
And not being primarily a Brock fan I bought it when it first come out, paying full noise for it and see them a while ago for $60 brand new. Same thing as the D Johnson statue (whilst not being the best and not wanting to get into a discussion about it) but was supposed to be a limited number and look at what you can buy them for now........ Honestly it really has made me think about what I actually collect now and tend to go for a lot of rarer memorabilia and not just models - just about need another factory to put all of our stuff in....;)
MOTIV8
21-06-2010, 03:23 PM
I find it interesting that folks consider models "killed" or of no interest just because it's overproduced. The Austins a great model & I have one, paid very little for it, but I paid full tilt for my VK Big Banger, still a great model (despite it's faults). The overproduction was a fiasco for the manufacturers & yes they have died in the bum value wise, but there still nice models, at the end of the day do people collect model cars or $$$$ ?
David I personally collect stuff for my own reasons and not the dollar value but to my way of thinking the stuff that is mass produced or lacking in the value area is not necessarily collectible to me as I like collecting a lot of rarer items as well.
Just my 2c worth, Cheers
Sean
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 03:34 PM
So you are saying, just because they made a heap of them it is less of an important Brock icon. Huh?When we paid $170+ and now they give them away with every model you purchase what do you reckon ,there greed killed that model it means nothing to them ,there after the big bucks ,BUT yes my model means a lot to me ,even though the average joe can buy it for a third of the price i bought it for I LOVE IT :cool:
El Cheapo
21-06-2010, 03:40 PM
When we paid $170+ and now they give them away with every model you purchase what do you reckon ,there greed killed that model it means nothing to them ,there after the big bucks ,BUT yes my model means a lot to me ,even though the average joe can buy it for a third of the price i bought it for I LOVE IT :cool:
Said it before, but Biante simply had to make big numbers of that car to come close to justifying making the things. It's not a mold they can re-use like a V8SC mold (and those molds are probably milked to at least 20k releases or thereabouts in their lifetimes). At the end of the day, they're a company, and their top priority is to make big bucks, as much as we'd like to think otherwise.
The Big Bangers from both companies are a better example of greed, as those molds can be, and probably have been, retooled and used for other releases. 15k a piece was and is, ridiculous.
I'm still yet to get my hands around a Brock Austin :( Planning to get one at Bathurst though. Fingers crossed I suppose.
rayman
21-06-2010, 03:50 PM
Said it before, but Biante simply had to make big numbers of that car to come close to justifying making the things. It's not a mold they can re-use like a V8SC mold (and those molds are probably milked to at least 20k releases or thereabouts in their lifetimes). At the end of the day, they're a company, and their top priority is to make big bucks, as much as we'd like to think otherwise.
The Big Bangers from both companies are a better example of greed, as those molds can be, and probably have been, retooled and used for other releases. 15k a piece was and is, ridiculous.
I'm still yet to get my hands around a Brock Austin :( Planning to get one at Bathurst though. Fingers crossed I suppose.
That is a correct statement about the Austin. Also Biante would have never believed they would ever be able to sell 18000 of the things either. The best they would have hoped would have been to break even or close to and then give the rest away as they did.
But on the large number's of the VK's. That was fueled by us, the collector's, by hyping it up and pre-ordering from multiple shops. I know the shop I used to buy from had pages and pages of names down for that one and was easily 4 times more than for any other model.
louieate8ate
21-06-2010, 04:00 PM
With regard to the VK's do you think that the "collectors"who pre-ordered so many were hoping to make some $$$??
rayman
21-06-2010, 04:01 PM
With regard to the VK's do you think that the "collectors"who pre-ordered so many were hoping to make some $$$??
Yes certainly. The "collectors" that is, apposed to collector's.
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Said it before, but Biante simply had to make big numbers of that car to come close to justifying making the things. It's not a mold they can re-use like a V8SC mold (and those molds are probably milked to at least 20k releases or thereabouts in their lifetimes). At the end of the day, they're a company, and their top priority is to make big bucks, as much as we'd like to think otherwise.
The Big Bangers from both companies are a better example of greed, as those molds can be, and probably have been, retooled and used for other releases. 15k a piece was and is, ridiculous.
I'm still yet to get my hands around a Brock Austin :( Planning to get one at Bathurst though. Fingers crossed I suppose.How many efijys or coupe 60's or mambo's or utster's did Classics make?they didnt make 11,000 of each so it comes back to greed and nothing else trying to make money on a great man that is no longer with us
rayman
21-06-2010, 04:12 PM
How many efijys or coupe 60's or mambo's or utster's did Classics make?they didnt make 11,000 of each so it comes back to greed and nothing else trying to make money on a great man that is no longer with us
Then explain the 18750 1984 Bathurst Winning VK's they made
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 04:14 PM
Then explain the 18750 1984 Bathurst Winning VK's they madeThey made them before Biante:cool:
rayman
21-06-2010, 04:17 PM
They made them before Biante:cool:
Which one did you put your name down for?
CC rushed like mad to get them out first :p
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Which one did you put your name down for?I didn't really care Rayman I just wanted a bathurst 84 winner which i had waited years for ,which trevor and bev promised years ago ,got sick of waiting went for CC ,but mind you i bought the twin set there were less made
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 04:26 PM
CC rushed like mad to get them out first :pNO they didn't biante rushed the make because they got the hard word from holdens, make it or dont make any at all ?So i heard :)
El Cheapo
21-06-2010, 06:05 PM
How many efijys or coupe 60's or mambo's or utster's did Classics make?they didnt make 11,000 of each so it comes back to greed and nothing else trying to make money on a great man that is no longer with us
I'm only assuming, but considering how strange a model the Austin is, the production methods and casting would be way way harder to do, compared with something like a Coupe60, which Peter Thompson has said was easy to make, as the mold was simply derived from a CAD drawing from Holden. New production methods and time spent on perfecting molds would just add to the production count on these cars. There's no magical 'Austin CAD drawing' Biante could've downloaded from Wikipedia :laugh4:
inter
21-06-2010, 06:59 PM
How often would you buy Inter ? The company's like Biante or CC are here to make a profit not just sell to a few individuals they couldn't survive on lots of 500 ,you would not get any new collectors and the industry would turn stale ,just my thought's :cool:
your thoughts are quite good, and there is no right and wrong in this.
How often I would buy? Currently I purchase about $2500 to $3000 per year.
In that expenditure I purchase about 9 x 1:18 Biante ( sometimes CC) Aprox $1800....Plus i purchase an other 20 odd 1:43 ( biante legends and CC V8) Aprox $900 an then I just buy the odd model here and there.
If lets say the Biante 1:18 went up to $500 each RRP and only made 500 of them , I would buy only 3 per year and spend an other $1000 on other models
I would like to Biante to make a prestige model ( No V8 supercar ) and only make veryl imited edition and charge more.
and also make the current models at much higher numbers at a lower price. all opening parts
look at the 1984 bathurst winner, with the numbers they made surely they could of retailed at half the RRP and still made $.
with the same model they could of made the first 500 of them with different pakaging and also an individual cast numbered base at $500 a model.
This will allowe people to get into the collecting world and it gave the serious ( cant think of a better word so dont shoot me in flames) a model to chase
Brutesute.....I agree that we should get new collectors into this. I have two boys my self.
My thoughts, over to you.....and it would be good if a Biante employee got involved into this discussion
Cheers:)
Maximus
21-06-2010, 07:15 PM
Biante should make something of this calibre.
http://www.cmc-modelcars.de/modelle/de/1_18/Mercedes-Benz_300_slr_uhlen_details.htm
Keep it under $400 and limited to 1500 or so and it will sell.
Just what car to make is the hard part.
Brutesutes
21-06-2010, 07:48 PM
your thoughts are quite good, and there is no right and wrong in this.
How often I would buy? Currently I purchase about $2500 to $3000 per year.
In that expenditure I purchase about 9 x 1:18 Biante ( sometimes CC) Aprox $1800....Plus i purchase an other 20 odd 1:43 ( biante legends and CC V8) Aprox $900 an then I just buy the odd model here and there.
If lets say the Biante 1:18 went up to $500 each RRP and only made 500 of them , I would buy only 3 per year and spend an other $1000 on other models
I would like to Biante to make a prestige model ( No V8 supercar ) and only make veryl imited edition and charge more.
and also make the current models at much higher numbers at a lower price. all opening parts
look at the 1984 bathurst winner, with the numbers they made surely they could of retailed at half the RRP and still made $.
with the same model they could of made the first 500 of them with different pakaging and also an individual cast numbered base at $500 a model.
This will allowe people to get into the collecting world and it gave the serious ( cant think of a better word so dont shoot me in flames) a model to chase
Brutesute.....I agree that we should get new collectors into this. I have two boys my self.
My thoughts, over to you.....and it would be good if a Biante employee got involved into this discussion
Cheers:)Was hoping you would take it this way Inter thanks mate cheers :cool:
Andrew
22-06-2010, 05:49 PM
Talking about the massive numbers of Brock Austons sold, perhaps, in retrospect, this car would have been better made as a resin release.....
the_goldie
22-06-2010, 07:05 PM
They should have just made half the amount, then they wouldn't be giving them away... Has to be the MOST devalued car ever made.
Holdennumber1
22-06-2010, 07:10 PM
They should have just made half the amount, then they wouldn't be giving them away... Has to be the MOST devalued car ever made. How about those Wayne Gardner Coke Commodores. Or the GRM early 2000's commodores. They can be picked up bloody cheap. Although for the detail and quality of the Austin, it should be worth a lot more.
wazza002
22-06-2010, 07:13 PM
even if they made less of them do you think CC would made them as well like they have been lately :( and so they made that many to put a stop to CC making them do you think ;)
rayman
22-06-2010, 07:29 PM
even if they made less of them do you think CC would made them as well like they have been lately :( and so they made that many to put a stop to CC making them do you think ;)
No and no.
wazza002
22-06-2010, 07:31 PM
No and no.
Is that your final word rayman LoL :p:D:D
rayman
22-06-2010, 07:32 PM
Is that your final word rayman LoL :p:D:D
No, ummm, I mean, Yes.
jager
22-06-2010, 08:02 PM
I've read similar comments on overseas forums in the last 12 months and it seems that in particular, 1:18 collectors simply reach a point where a lack of physical storage/display space starts to limit their collections. Nobody wants to spend $200 for a model if its just going to sit in its box in a cupboard.
Similarly, many of these 1:18 collectors who have been losing interest have started to switch their focus to 1:43 which appears to have re-stimulated their interest, based on :
a) much greater detail in 1:43 compared to 4 or 5 years ago
b) wider, more diverse range of models
c) much cheaper price
d) easier to store / display
4 or 5 yars ago, if you wanted to collect Bathurst winners 1:18 was really your only option. Today, there are very few 1:18 Bathurst winners that aren't available in 1:43 and the selection is increasing all the time.
I appreciate why collectors love the extra detail in 1:18. Nevertheless, it becomes a trade-off between detail and space/cost and for some collectors switching scales has rekindled their interest.
Buffalo
23-06-2010, 06:55 AM
Like a lot of people - I haven;t lost interest but I am not spending as much ... I have my collection up to date over the last 5 years so not many new releases required to keep it going - maybe 1 or 2 a year of the 1:18's plus the odd one I am hanging out for like a Channel 9 Camaro !!! I do feel for the new collectors that have to backfill a theme like Bathurst Winners - that's a bit of a daunting financial excercise ... Echo-ing Jager's comments above - I have switched to 1:43 to soothe the desire to buy some cars that I like - much cheaper and easier to display ...
I do feel for the new collectors that have to backfill a theme like Bathurst Winners - that's a bit of a daunting financial excercise ...
I don't feel sorry for them one bit. I wish there were tonnes more of them to improve the secondary market. I know I've paid overs for 2nd hand models plenty of times & I'm not complaining.
~Half the angst on this site over the past year or so can be traced back to supply/demand factors & simply another several thousand new collectors with backfill requirements across all themes and deep pockets would be awesome.
Further to Inters 2010 wrap up thread along with the one just closed that ruffled a few feathers, IMO I think that the market, interest & outlook is reasonably strong. Picked up this thread rather than start a new one.
Definitely getting some very low production numbers for some models & both manufacturers have & will learn from some prior mistakes, (these are reasonably well documented here). We’re not at the heady days before GFC, but on certainly on the improve.
There seems to be a more than normal amount of members on this site than usual. A bit strange given the racing has finished & we’re not likely to now see any grand new model announcements for a month or so.
As mentioned elsewhere, also pleased that both manufacturers are getting close to releasing all the VE/FG’s that have been in pipe for a while, hence we should be able to look forward to some great models next year from prior eras. Also have to assume that there will be less V8SC releases in 2011 (not to be confused with # of individual models manufactured), demand for the 2011 range should also be higher.
Can’t say I’ve lost any interest, & always looking forward to finding out what will be released next.
canuck617
15-12-2010, 04:10 PM
Very, very interesting read..
I got back into collecting in 1993?, I've had my peaks and valleys..,
..I have over 450 1/24th nascar pieces, I also stopped counting in 2004, so that number is for sure very much higher. I kinda stopped in 2006, with the death of team caliber, the action junk just ain't the same, I do collect when my 3 drivers have race win pieces made.
My 1/64th is well over 1000 pieces, I have all the ford race cars from nascar and the v8's, plus odds and ends..
My 1/18th is around 20-50, including both the nascar and V8's (10-15 V8's as I only collect marcos, winterbottom and the Jim Beam pieces, of which I am still working on)
I have many, many Ford race cars from all over, as well as my ertl boss mustang collection, don't even know how many I have..
..for me, I collect what I like and like what I collect, I'm not in it for the money, because as someone else mentioned, it's just a money pit, just like a 1/1, so I'll never get out of it what I put into it, and I stopped counting after the 10K mark.., many, many moons ago..
..I kinda walked away from it in 2006, as I felt like I was being fleeced, with the fact that I used to collect anything that was Mark Martin, and in that year, there was a whole lot..!, so after that, I just collect race wins..
..as for the health of the hobby, it's hurting, I've got some holy grails for less than half of what they were going for on fleabay a few years ago, as people are dumping to get cash..
..I'm not out, as I'm still very much interested, I'm just more tight with what I buy, from 2007 until now, I doubt I've bought more that 50 pieces..
..just my 2 pennies worth..
David Paterson
15-12-2010, 04:38 PM
I'm keen to offload most of my Trax 1:43 collection. Where should i sell them, as an alternative to eBay?
Sandman77
15-12-2010, 04:45 PM
Swap meet?
Give away:p
I'm keen to offload most of my Trax 1:43 collection. Where should i sell them, as an alternative to eBay?
Some model shops will buy or give you a credit for them. Naturally if the current ebay price is "retail", a shop would give you wholesale. Ask around & if they're the older/valuable ones, might be OK.
v8superman
15-12-2010, 05:42 PM
I've read similar comments on overseas forums in the last 12 months and it seems that in particular, 1:18 collectors simply reach a point where a lack of physical storage/display space starts to limit their collections. Nobody wants to spend $200 for a model if its just going to sit in its box in a cupboard.
Similarly, many of these 1:18 collectors who have been losing interest have started to switch their focus to 1:43 which appears to have re-stimulated their interest, based on :
a) much greater detail in 1:43 compared to 4 or 5 years ago
b) wider, more diverse range of models
c) much cheaper price
d) easier to store / display
4 or 5 yars ago, if you wanted to collect Bathurst winners 1:18 was really your only option. Today, there are very few 1:18 Bathurst winners that aren't available in 1:43 and the selection is increasing all the time.
I appreciate why collectors love the extra detail in 1:18. Nevertheless, it becomes a trade-off between detail and space/cost and for some collectors switching scales has rekindled their interest.
i agree with this post 100% and would consider myself to be in that suitation. I have sold off nearly all my 1:18s in the last two months for the reasons mentioned above.
Today, there are very few 1:18 Bathurst winners that aren't available in 1:43 and the selection is increasing all the time.
There are 4 X 1:43 BW's for sale in the Christmas Sale section on the Biante site. All key cars as far as Bathurst history goes IMO.
Tumbo
15-12-2010, 08:05 PM
I started off w/ 1/43 and thankfully my move into 1/18 was small (compared w/ most) and i've stuck to a consistant list which I do my best to substitute cars on when I see something else I like..............makes for building a collection which to me works perfectly and thankfully has lead to only a few cars being sold off or traded over the yrs.
All ebs and flows but having riden the crest where some holy grails were nearly out of reach and highly expensive it is nice to now pick up a few of the rarer cars at a reasonable price.
firemansam
15-12-2010, 08:57 PM
I still enjoy collecting, but not as much as I used to. I have mine all on display and I've now got a specific list of models both produced and unannounced that I'm sticking to, mainly for space reasons. I have however added the Courtney championship winner to the list. I figure there's always gonna be one or two of those models thats gonna be added to the list no matter how strict you are about it.
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