The Hamilton 400 thread: Gossip, thoughts, pics AND spoilers

[El Cheapo]

OK so are any Kiwi's from here heading down this year?

I'm heading down with pops for the 3rd time :cool: Looking forward to finally getting some decent viewing of the track. Moved from the rubbish Main Straight grandstand to the Hinemoa stand :D

And what are peoples thoughts on the weekend? I personally am looking forward most to the V8 Utes racing. 16 utes from the Australian championship versus 16 utes from the NZ championship. NZ will get smashed, but it'll be entertaining, and if Australia gets coverage of it, it'll show the Hamilton circuit in a more promising light :)

[ratster70]

Cheapo its ute racing mate they all get smashed :p expect major carnage all round in that one lol

[El Cheapo]

Cheapo its ute racing mate they all get smashed :p expect major carnage all round in that one lol

:laugh4:

The NZ guys, apart from about 5 of them are a bit 'ametuer hour'. Still will be entertaining to watch us take you guys and ourselves out :D

[louieate8ate]

Cheapo its ute racing mate they all get smashed :p expect major carnage all round in that one lol
Agree with you Ratster,the guys from your side can do enough damage amongst themselves,add our guys and it'll probably be damage x2 !!:D

[NO.5HDT]

Looking forward to it Cheapo. Holden Club Hawkes Bay is heading up 9.00 am thursday for the annual pilgrimage

[ratster70]

Have a favour to ask of one of our kiwi cuzzies going to the race please. Can someone grab me a Fabian Coulthard face mask from the bundy team at all. Has a collection of drivers masks and id like to add that one if i can. pm me if you can help at all.

sorry mods if this is deemed advertising wasnt sure where to put it

[NO.5HDT]

I'll see if I can grab one Rats

[<Jonboy>]

And what are peoples thoughts on the weekend? I personally am looking forward most to the V8 Utes racing. 16 utes from the Australian championship versus 16 utes from the NZ championship. NZ will get smashed, but it'll be entertaining, and if Australia gets coverage of it, it'll show the Hamilton circuit in a more promising light :)MeNews suggests only 7 Chassis are going over, does that mean there are only 7 Aust teams, or the others borrowing NZ based chassis?

[wayno]

Have a favour to ask of one of our kiwi cuzzies going to the race please. Can someone grab me a Fabian Coulthard face mask from the bundy team at all. Has a collection of drivers masks and id like to add that one if i can. pm me if you can help at all.

sorry mods if this is deemed advertising wasnt sure where to put it

I haven't got a problem with this mate. Seems like (as per usual) there is always another member willing to help out.
Good on ya guys! ;)

[ratster70]

I haven't got a problem with this mate. Seems like (as per usual) there is always another member willing to help out.
Good on ya guys! ;)


Ok ta wayno

And thanks to El Cheapo and NO.5HDT for the help offers very much appreciated. I messaged Bundy racing via facebook and they said they will be handing them out free but will give more info closer to the event so as soon as i know more ill post it
cheers
Rat

[El Cheapo]

MeNews suggests only 7 Chassis are going over, does that mean there are only 7 Aust teams, or the others borrowing NZ based chassis?

I'm hoping the latter :(

If anyone else has news on the matter, it'd be appreciated :)

PS, No worries Rat ;)

[zigen]

bit of a late reply, but il be there too, though as part of the crash rescue team, so not sure how much free time il get to talk and meet people sorry

[the_goldie]

Fabian topped first practice for bottom half...

[david5]

Murph fastest in P3 & SR third. Kiwis on fire.

[pitcrew]

Murph fastest in P3 & SR third. Kiwis on fire.
Poor little birds :D

[njf015]

anyone using the new V8 iPhone app?? LOL they have some holden drivers in fords and vise versa....pretty poor effort for $5.99 per month!!

[skaifeyfan2]

Spectacular driving in the support races as always :P hahaha

[ratster70]

Spectacular driving in the support races as always :P hahaha


How many utes made it to the finish :p missed all the racing today was at a kids 1st birthday party in a park with no tv access damn bad planning by the father i tell ya lol

[k1w1taxi]

Utes were a bit tame. Almost all finished. The racing at the front was pretty exciting though with Pither and Jane going at it hammer and tongs. More carnage on view in the Suzukis.

The Kiwis V8s were pretty good too. As for the V8SC what can you say Whincup is a machine!! Was not at all surprised to see Ricciadello chuck it in the concrete as his bakes were smoking badly every time he pitted yesterday and in fact he had a brake fire during P2.

Cheers
Lee

[Holdennumber1]

It was good to see Tander get another strong result.:) Well done to Whincup though, 888 are bloody impressive this year.

Again, I thought Will Davison was hopeless.:( Even if he got to 11th from wherever he started before retiring, much better should still be expected from him.

[Kashmir]

As much as I would've loved to see GT win that at least he got a 2nd to help his points.How impressive has D'alberto been I reckon he would do great in car 22.

[VXfan]

street races = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
What a load of tripe this series has become.

[royaloaks]

I was at the races today and had a really great time.That Jamie Whincup is sure a great race car driver. So smooth and consistent.There was some excellent racing in some of the support classes as well.Overall a great day and I am looking forward to tomorrow.Thanks to Australia for giving us a round of the V8s. As Fred Dagg would say "We dont know how lucky we are" Cheers

[monarocveightz]

street races = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
What a load of tripe this series has become.

I haven't been able to watch a race since Abu Dhabi......sounds like I haven't missed a hell of a lot then...

[Mixalis]

I really enjoyed todays race. Im a ford fan so the shootout really dissapointed me but what a show Whincup, Tander and Courtney put on today! (Well for me they did :P)

Cant wait for tomorow!

[fastboysmith]

I really enjoyed todays race. Im a ford fan so the shootout really dissapointed me but what a show Whincup, Tander and Courtney put on today! (Well for me they did :P)

Cant wait for tomorow!
yep hopefully Courtney can win and whincup crash out or have problem.

[Mixalis]

yep hopefully Courtney can win and whincup crash out or have problem.

Couldnt agree with you more mate, hopefully Courtney gets us a good result. With Whincup, dont want the bloke to crash lol maybe just a black flag or mechanical :P


What happened to Frosty?? Thats the quietest his been this season ?!?!? Didnt even notice he was in the race, they barely showed him in the race!

[HRT-222]

Im glad to see GT is still getting good results, deffinatly helping him in his championship comeback :D I'm a huge GT fan so really hope he can seal the deal tomorrow...

The man i really feel sorry for at the moment is Will Davison. He just seems to have the worst luck atm. Today wasn't his fault and imo he really deserved a top 10 finish after an amazing fightback in the race after starting 24th.

I know alot of people have been saying that Will isn't performing really well and shouldn't be there. I sort of agree, but the main of the problems havn't nessacerily been his fault. Sure he shouldn't be all the way down the order, due to his bad qualifying efforts, but he has had a few unfortunate mechanical issues. In race 1, in Abu Dhabi, he had his engine let go, which wasn't his fault...In race 5, in Adelaide, he had a solid result but could have gotten an even better one if lowndes didn't take him out, as he does....and Race 6, having steering difficulties with the car...At the AGP, even though it's not a champ round, he had a pretty solid result, finishing fourth for the weekend im pretty sure.

In todays race, as i said above, he was looking good to have a solid result, which may have been a sign of better things to come, before stopping with only 5 laps to, due to the car dropping a cylinder.

I wouldn't write Will off yet, i wouldn't say that all of his 2010 results so far are his fault, hopefully HRT can get the heads around the car, trying to find out what the problem is. Hopefully at the next round at Queensland Raceway, he can come out with all guns blazing and really show that he hasn't forgotten how to drive and he still has the potential.....atm his future is on the line and his contract runs out at the end of this year with HRT, hopefully for Will's sake, they give him a chance and re-sign him for a few more years....

Also Murphy, that bloke just can't seem to catch a break....really felt sorry for him when he was taken out in that turn 2 kaos which wasn't much of his own doing and then having a few mechanical issues...again!!!

He's in the same sort of situation, the team jus't cant their heads around the car and mainly every race for Greg this year has been a disaster due to mechanical failures in the engine.

Hopefully tomorrow will be a good race, may the best man win and hopefully for Will and Greg's sake, they can get a decent result out of the weekend.

Cheers Josh

[skaifeyfan2]

T Kelly is another, guy has been smashed piller to post in every race this season. Has he finished lap 1 of any race without being turned around? :confused:

[fastboysmith]

Couldnt agree with you more mate, hopefully Courtney gets us a good result. With Whincup, dont want the bloke to crash lol maybe just a black flag or mechanical :P


What happened to Frosty?? Thats the quietest his been this season ?!?!? Didnt even notice he was in the race, they barely showed him in the race! he was in a battle back with rick kelly and lee holsworth for 8 9 and 10th place and ended up 9th i think

[Mixalis]

he was in a battle back with rick kelly and lee holsworth for 8 9 and 10th place and ended up 9th i think

I think he finished 7th, anyway lookig forward to todays race!

[kts350]

street races = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
What a load of tripe this series has become.

Couldn't agree more...

[skaifeyfan2]

I'm thinking they should be banning queueing cars in pitlane these days.

[Holdennumber1]

Gee, Frosty isn't qualifying too good this weekend. He'll have a lot of work to do to get up the front.
Anyone know if FPR had problems or he's just not fast enough. I always thought he was a very good at putting a fast lap together.

[superfly]

anyone using the new V8 iPhone app?? LOL they have some holden drivers in fords and vise versa....pretty poor effort for $5.99 per month!!
I was going to use it until I saw that it was $5.99 per month plus download fees! May as well just use the V8supercar website.

[superfly]

street races = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
What a load of tripe this series has become.
Totally disagree!!

Street races are awesome especially whilst you're in the crowd. There's nothing like the cars rubbing walls rather than getting stuck in sand traps.

That's one thing I didn't like about the other overseas races, they had waaay too much runoff which made life much easier for the drivers.

[superfly]

Good stuff on Whincup winning the race yesterday! Hope he comes up today again.

I do wished the Fords would do better as I dislike Holden but whilst Whincup is racing, everyone else has to settle for second :)

Wished Tander had Davidson's bad luck.

[stevanford]

Channel 7 coverage is pissing me off. :mad:

[barnart]

Channel 7 coverage is pissing me off. :mad:

This crap Ch7.
I in QLD and they stopped to show footy and then back to 2nd half of race 8 at 3:45

[ratster70]

Channel 7 coverage is pissing me off. :mad:

PFFFFFTTTTTT what friggin coverage like barnart said in qld we got qualifying at 12 then stoopid bloody AFL between 2 victorian team like YEAH i really want to watch that and racing not back on til 3.30pm. I like the commentary team on 7 but christ their coverage is crap with the new digital network there is like 5 channels on 7 and they do this crap. Tony cochrane your money spent with channel 7 isnt worth it buddy their screwing you over and showing their real money maker gayfl :mad:

[kts350]

This crap Ch7.
I in QLD and they stopped to show footy and then back to 2nd half of race 8 at 3:45

They did the same in NSW, was watchign qualifying went outside for a smoke come back in and AFL was on..
Any way instead of waiting for the pathetic coverage I just got on twitter and found out whats going in the race wont spoil it for everyone..

[El Cheapo]

street races = Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
What a load of tripe this series has become.

Slight disagreement Tony. Just got back from Hamilton and I can confirm that all the other categories this weekend were awesome to watch :D The V8's though really don't suit the track. not enough room in breaking areas for them to really do anything but follow the leader. The sooner the V8's move to Hampton Downs, sadly, the better.

That said, it was an awesome weekend :D Even though none of the drivers I really follow had a good one :rolleyes: Whincup is insane. In-freaking-sane. Highlights of the weekend would have to be the upskirt on the big screen (the camera man was possibly getting a bit curious on the pit-straight?), getting all the signatures I was after bar Tanders (typical..) a getting a decent haul of V8 goodies, and the big trans-tasman battle between Chris Pither and Rodney Jane in race 2 of the V8 Utes :cool:

[ratster70]

Big thanks to the cheapster one for his help with the Fab mask;) cheers buddy. I thought the racing was great man whincup is just unstoppable at present. Its the friggin coverage being offered by channel 7 at present thats crap no supports shown at all OHHHH hang on what am i thinking the V8's were the support category to the GAYFL:p silly me

[ratster70]

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/04/18/three-falcons-excluded-from-hamilton-result/

This will please the ford boys Bwahahahahahahaahaha

[fastboysmith]

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/04/18/three-falcons-excluded-from-hamilton-result/

This will please the ford boys Bwahahahahahahaahaha
how bloody stupid can't get much worse then this

[skaifeyfan2]

Did nothing for them did it.

[Kashmir]

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/04/18/three-falcons-excluded-from-hamilton-result/

This will please the ford boys Bwahahahahahahaahaha

haha:laugh4:

[Holdennumber1]

Why's everyone abusing channel 7? The AFL was awesome, Port Adelaide got absolutely thumped!:D Best game all year so far; Go Geelong!

Congrats to Whincup. I wonder if anyone other than Tander and Whincup will win a race this year. Those two and seem to be on top of everyone else at the moment (Whincup more so).

[k1w1taxi]

Pither and Kim Jane were outstanding in both races 1 & 2. Don't know what went wrong for Jane in Race 3 as Pither just streeted him. Was very disappointed with the last BNT V8 race. What a complete stuff up that start was. I was on pit wall down by GRM's garages and even I could see that that Go was FAR too late. I can tell you Scooter was NOT a happy camper when he got back to the pits.

Missed the upskirt on the big screen, but did see those Monster girls close up. By far the promo highlight of the weekend :D

As for the main event, I was wrapped for 'my' boys. A job well done by the team ended in a great result for Michael and Lee. Must say though that Garry Rogers himself was pretty understated in his reaction. One interesting T8 piece that may not have made it to telecast was Craig Lowndes re entry to the race after going to the Garage. After failing to find anything wrong the team wheeled him back out to the pit apron and proceeded to carry out one of the most mickey mouse stops for fuel and tyres that you are likely to see.

One great site standing where I was came towards the end of the race as the shadows made it quite dark there, and as a result you could really see the brake disks glowing as they slowed for Turn 1. Some of the guys like the podium finishers hardly glowed at all while Craig Lowndes had them heated up to rival the red on the livery. Really wish I had been allowed my camera.

Cheers
Lee

[ratster70]

Why's everyone abusing channel 7? The AFL was awesome, Port Adelaide got absolutely thumped!:D Best game all year so far; Go Geelong!

Congrats to Whincup. I wonder if anyone other than Tander and Whincup will win a race this year. Those two and seem to be on top of everyone else at the moment (Whincup more so).


Umm prolly because the game we got was the richmond game up here Thomas and believe me even if it was a lions game id still be pissed that is just unnacceptable when they have like 5 digital channels and the telecast we got was crap. It wasnt even live and we still didnt see whincup take tander on lap 10 it was a replay after the add break for christs sake, then to top it off all we got of the podium presentation was whincup lifting the porter trophy no second or third just pathetic.

Oh and did i mention that aussie rules is GAY:p

[k1w1taxi]

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/04/18/three-falcons-excluded-from-hamilton-result/

This will please the ford boys Bwahahahahahahaahaha

One thing that WILL please them is the news conference on the Speedcafe TV with SBR signing both SP Tools and Shane van Giz til 2012. :D

Cheers
Lee

[Mixalis]

Did not like todays race at all and after reading an article on the exclusion of those three, just ruined my day :(

Oh well all part of racing. Whincups 200pts ahead of JC! Big lead to have this early in the comp! Does anyone know what his salary is?

[Kashmir]

Oh well all part of racing. Whincups 200pts ahead of JC! Big lead to have this early in the comp! Does anyone know what his salary is?

Oh give it a few races and GT will be ahead of Courtney as well in the points;):D

He's up to 6th now:cool:

[Pug205]

The F1 telecast could not have started soon enough today. What a boring weekend of V8's. Not sure what frustrates me more - the telecast, the predictable results, or what our once great Touring Car series has descended into to :mad:

[minh427]

So many ads during the v8s. Result was predictable so switched to F1. :)

[njf015]

had to laugh during the closing stages of the F1 telecast where I could overhear the producers (i think) over the commentators, and they said something like "f1 race, just ad water to make it interesting"
Maybe the V8CS needs to take on that mantra to assist with interesting racing.
Only good bits were watching guys bounce off the turn 4 tyre bundles.....

[inter]

8 races and 8 holden wins, as a ford supporter this is going to be a long hard season.

Aslo the points system is crap, how can someone win 6 out of 8 races and anly be 200 points ahead ( 150 per race win)

[El Cheapo]

Missed the upskirt on the big screen, but did see those Monster girls close up. By far the promo highlight of the weekend :D

I missed it. Quite disapointed to be frank.... :( lol! Had to laugh at Matt Gunn fainting in his chair though.

Here's a few pics for those wondering what a monster girl is.....


http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6811/dscn1609f. jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/dscn1609f.jpg/)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2407/dscn1610g.jp g (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/dscn1610g.jpg/)

Will throw up some of my less crappy pics over the next few days. Some might even have cars in them....

I kid, I kid lol

[louieate8ate]

Now I know why Murph had a Monster hat on !!!!

[rex555]

Well, Queensland raceway is no longer the only race that I've fallen asleep in front of now. Both days were an absolute snoozefest in the V8s. Glad the people at the track had some good racing to see cos there wasn't any on the tv.

Just before I fell asleep today, I had the idea that, since Ch7 care more about the 3 people in Adelaide who would have watched Port get smashed again rather than the several thousand who would have watched the V8s and caught up on some sleep, and since Ch 7 care nothing about the complaints of the people who watch V8s, maybe I should do a mass email to the advertisers (KFC, Supercheap et al)? If Ch7 won't listen to the viewers, maybe they will listen to the advertisers where they get their $ from? After all, if enough people complained to the advertisers, they would start asking questions as to how their $ are being spent and then maybe people would take the viewers seriously?

[bills]

bit of a snooze fest after whincup got past tander the f1's were more interesting.

[GOBBO]

yep i commented to the missus it was one of the most boring race i have ever watched and went and reread the news paper

[Maq]

It getting a bit old hearing how boring it is fellas. Dead set watch something else if you do not like it. Sick of hearing it every round

[VXfan]

It getting a bit old hearing how boring it is fellas. Dead set watch something else if you do not like it. Sick of hearing it every round
No worries mate,I'm off to watch some paint dry...:p

[GOBBO]

It getting a bit old hearing how boring it is fellas. Dead set watch something else if you do not like it. Sick of hearing it every round

dont worry i did . but i for one really enjoy the v8s and not often bored by them but yesterdays race was terible imo

[<Jonboy>]

One interesting T8 piece that may not have made it to telecast was Craig Lowndes re entry to the race after going to the Garage. After failing to find anything wrong the team wheeled him back out to the pit apron and proceeded to carry out one of the most mickey mouse stops for fuel and tyres that you are likely to see.

Cheers
Lee
you could see him clowning around in the cockpit as well as he came down pit lane, and then lit the tyres up after passing the control line at the end of the lane, was a little humourous that the ever eagle eyed Crompton/Skaife show somehow missed

[FastRedCars]

Umm prolly because the game we got was the richmond game up here Thomas and believe me even if it was a lions game id still be pissed that is just unnacceptable when they have like 5 digital channels and the telecast we got was crap. It wasnt even live and we still didnt see whincup take tander on lap 10 it was a replay after the add break for christs sake, then to top it off all we got of the podium presentation was whincup lifting the porter trophy no second or third just pathetic.

Oh and did i mention that aussie rules is GAY:p

Just want to add my voice to those who are critical of the Ch7 coverage of the V8 Race Events. Chopping the coverage up to slot in a VFL game is an insult - and El Cocko should take it as such ! A loooong long way to go at 7 before they consider V8's to be anywhere near as important as (any sort of) footy.
But what is even more annoying, Ch7 now has "7TWO" that it could use to give FULL coverage (eg Support races, whole Podium presentation, etc), and what did it use it for yesterday ?? From 12noon to 6pm it showed 3 movies - one from 1968, the next from 1969, and the third from 1987 ! What a waste of a digital channel, BUT, obviously, more important and interesting than the V8 Event.
Our sport is not just a long way down the list from footy, Tony C, but a long way behind old movie re-runs as well, at least in Ch7-land. Time to negotiate a better TV deal for the fans, Mr V8 Supercar Events. We are getting shabby service from the current deal.

[Leigh]

...antisiphoning laws apply to the second digital channels, so they can not show the V8's or the support races on 7Two unless it is, or already has been shown on Ch7...

The V8's have been scheduled around the football for several years now...the reality is that they are a long way down the pecking order compared to those events!

[FastRedCars]

...antisiphoning laws apply to the second digital channels, so they can not show the V8's or the support races on 7Two unless it is, or already has been shown on Ch7...

The V8's have been scheduled around the football for several years now...the reality is that they are a long way down the pecking order compared to those events!

I see what you're saying (and am not up to speed on these Laws), but, nevertheless, Free To Air digital ( "more....and its free!") should result in a better deal for the V8 Fans. I don't want to have to get Pay-TV just to watch V8's , fair enough.
So maybe the re-negotiating has to occur at a different level or place. Digital is, or soon will be, available everywhere, so there should be a way that one digital channel can show footy, and another, on the same Network, can show V8's - and do it justice. How can 3 old movies be better?
I like the way 10 does it with F1. They still run the late-night Sunday broadcast on 10, but show much more (and usually earlier) on OneHD (Qualifying, pre-race, race, podium and interviews -over Sat and Sun). A similar set-up for V8's can't be bad for anyone, surely? And if V8 Events can negotiate mega$$'s out of gov'ments to stage street races, surely they can put such a reasonable argument as well. I just want better TV on V8's - I go to 2 or 3 V8 Events in person each year, but I can't go to them all, so TV has to do. But it has got to get better than it is - the excuses of limited Free-to-Air time from years past have now gone. "Digital - Its Free - and there's MORE " ! - yeah, sure. The V8 fans deserved better coverage than we got of the Hamilton Event.

[superfly]

Oh and did i mention that aussie rules is GAY:p

Couldn't have said it better myself!


BTW does anyone know what Van Gisbergen said on the radio during qualifying? I couldn't make it out but Larko said he needed a good kick up the arse for that.

[superfly]

Oh well all part of racing. Whincups 200pts ahead of JC! Big lead to have this early in the comp! Does anyone know what his salary is?

I think he signed for about $70K a year back in 06 for 3 years. After almost winning the championship in 07 and then winning it in 08, I believe his salary went up to around $600K. And judging by the cool 'toys' he owns, I'd say it's about right.

I wonder how Gary Rodgers feels :D

[rex555]

Couldn't have said it better myself!


BTW does anyone know what Van Gisbergen said on the radio during qualifying? I couldn't make it out but Larko said he needed a good kick up the arse for that.

He was whinging about putting the car back on the truck.............and then pulled out 3rd fastest time up to that point. Larko said that he needed reminding that he was a contracted employee who was being paid to do a job.

[bortall]

I didn't see the broadcast, but the biggest problem I have with 7 is there coverage outside of the race broadcast. Sunday nights news had 5 seconds of footage and mentioned who won, all after what seemed like 10 minutes on AFL rubbish.

[My Element]

It getting a bit old hearing how boring it is fellas. Dead set watch something else if you do not like it. Sick of hearing it every round

I enjoy every race and thought last weekend was one of the better ones I've seen. I'm sick of hearing it too, i don't see what the issue is. Some tracks are better than others, yes. But I'm a fan so I'll always enjoy it no matter what.

[Kashmir]

Couldn't have said it better myself!


BTW does anyone know what Van Gisbergen said on the radio during qualifying? I couldn't make it out but Larko said he needed a good kick up the arse for that.

Something along the lines of "the car is crap may as well put it on the truck back home"

Larko's comment made me laugh though.

[david5]

...antisiphoning laws apply to the second digital channels, so they can not show the V8's or the support races on 7Two unless it is, or already has been shown on Ch7...



How do TEN get around showing the GPs first on ONE HD & then later on TEN ??

[NO.5HDT]

I had a great weekend up there. Positives were John Bowe, Tim Shenken, Tomas Mezera, James Moffat and Mark Skaife were very approchable and chatty.
Negatives were Lion Red beer, yuk. Had to go to the Bundy and Cokes. Murph going so well early and drifiting back. Dunno the story there.
I like Holdens to win but JW just butchered the field. There was nobody within miles.
Still it's our only round, so you have to get into it.
Got a 1:43 West Brock Monaro and an Allan Moffat A9X in 1:43 also.
The worst part of the weekend was getting a call after we got home. A mate was burgled while we were away and his die cast collection and memorabilia was ripped off.
Cheers Graeme.

[Chev_350]

...antisiphoning laws apply to the second digital channels, so they can not show the V8's or the support races on 7Two unless it is, or already has been shown on Ch7...

How do these laws work? As there is a lot shown on One which isn't shown on TEN.

[malscar]

...antisiphoning laws apply to the second digital channels, so they can not show the V8's or the support races on 7Two unless it is, or already has been shown on Ch7...


Chev, you may find it is this part. Here in Canberra at least, OneHD is the only Ch10 owned high definition channel offered. Ch7 has 2, &two being the second one.

[El Cheapo]

I had a great weekend up there. Positives were John Bowe, Tim Shenken, Tomas Mezera, James Moffat and Mark Skaife were very approchable and chatty.
Negatives were Lion Red beer, yuk. Had to go to the Bundy and Cokes. Murph going so well early and drifiting back. Dunno the story there.
I like Holdens to win but JW just butchered the field. There was nobody within miles.
Still it's our only round, so you have to get into it.
Got a 1:43 West Brock Monaro and an Allan Moffat A9X in 1:43 also.
The worst part of the weekend was getting a call after we got home. A mate was burgled while we were away and his die cast collection and memorabilia was ripped off.
Cheers Graeme.

I was hoping for Mezera and Skaife's signatures...but I never saw Tomas, and I only saw Skaife on that C7 platform :(

Murph developed a missfire in race 1, although that was when he was already in 16th.

Sad to hear about your mates collection being taken. There's some real nobs out there.

Here's a few random shots from the weekend. Mind the crap quality of the racing shots. Neither me nor my camera are fit for taking shots of moving things.

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1470.jpg

The interior of a TKR V8 Supercar at the venue. Was dressed up in VZ Pannels with the 05 (or 06?) livery, but was as you can see, an upgraded VT/VX.

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1475.jpg

The view from where I was on the Hinemoa stand at turn 3. Not that bad. Although it'd be better somewhere in the middle. I was on the bay on the edge.

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1517.jpg

[El Cheapo]

Garth never came out from the HRT pit when I was there. Ignored my pleas too...hmph

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1510.jpg

Got some good shots of the catch-fencing at the bottom of the stand....sigh

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1582.jpg

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1575.jpg

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1583.jpg

[El Cheapo]

First lap of race 1...moments before...

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1647.jpg

Then...

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1648.jpg

*cries*

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1650.jpg

[bortall]

How do TEN get around showing the GPs first on ONE HD & then later on TEN ??

As far as I know, not everything is covered by theses laws. The Aus GP is and hence is on Ten & One at the same time but the overseas races are obviously not covered by it and shown on One live and Ten on replay later.

[Leigh]

Antisiphoning laws only relate to events on the "antisiphoning list". Mostly the premier sports categories...

By the letter of the law, these must be shown preferentially on one of the 5 analogue stations. This will not change until the analogue signal is switched off.

If it appears on 1HD and not 10, you can guarantee that sport is not on the list...

[FastRedCars]

Antisiphoning laws only relate to events on the "antisiphoning list". Mostly the premier sports categories...

By the letter of the law, these must be shown preferentially on one of the 5 analogue stations. This will not change until the analogue signal is switched off.

If it appears on 1HD and not 10, you can guarantee that sport is not on the list...

Thanks for the explanation, Leigh. Since I'm happy that the law is there and prevents the V8's from being siphoned off to Pay TV, I guess I have to put up with a bit of footy disruption and the like. And I note your comment about the analogue being switched off - I hope when this occurs, and we all have all the Free-to-Air Digital Channels, that Ch7 will show one "premier sport" (say footy), and 7TWO is able to show the V8 coverage we yearn for. Here's hoping ! Bring on the Digital Future.

[schmikey]

Garth never came out from the HRT pit when I was there. Ignored my pleas too...hmph

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/tt265/omgthecak eisalie/2010%20Hamilton%20400/DSCN1510.jpg




Was that on Friday? When I was out the back of the pits he walked past 4 times, only had something for him to sign for him the last time. He was only happy to, nice guy

[1:43]

Antisiphoning laws only relate to events on the "antisiphoning list". Mostly the premier sports categories...

By the letter of the law, these must be shown preferentially on one of the 5 analogue stations. This will not change until the analogue signal is switched off.

If it appears on 1HD and not 10, you can guarantee that sport is not on the list...


The laws don't mention analogue they refer to free to air tv and pay tv - The following from the goverment web site.

"The objective of the anti-siphoning scheme is to ensure that certain events are available to the whole viewing public by preventing pay TV licensees from acquiring exclusive rights to listed events. Under section 115 of the Act, the Minister may gazette a list of events or events of a kind that the Minister believes should be available free to the general public. The current anti‑siphoning list comprises domestic and international sporting events in 12 categories including cricket, tennis, golf, motor sports and the football codes."

There is also the anti hoarding law as well.

While the Government's anti-siphoning provisions aim to ensure that as many Australians as possible have the opportunity to watch significant events on free-to-air television, these provisions do not deal with live coverage of listed events.
The anti-hoarding provisions require commercial television licensees who acquire the right to televise a designated event, but who do not propose to fully use that right, to offer the unused portion to the ABC and SBS for a nominal charge within a specified offer time. The national broadcasters must also offer unused portions of rights to each other.

I don't see how any of this would stop Seven using one of there free to air digital chanels to show the V8's
:)

[edy]

Nice NZ pics Matt.

Dont worry about Tander ignoring you.... he does it to everyone!

[monarocveightz]

Nice NZ pics Matt.

Dont worry about Tander ignoring you.... he does it to everyone!

He hasn't ignored me before:p:D

In saying that....he probably will at Bathurst now...

[spolyhronidis]

here's the list of sports currently protected. i know i read somewhere that the anti-siphoning law also relates to digital channels. i just can't remember where i read it.

http://www.keepsportfree.com.au/Content_Common/pg-whats-at-risk-sms.seo

[Holdennumber1]

If you want a sig from either Davison or Tander, prepare to wait outside their pit for hours and really shove the item in their face when they come out. Otherwise, they'll just walk straight past you most of the time.
I was talking to a guy at Clipsal who said he'd spent a stack of time outside the HRT pit all weekend and still couldn't get a sig.

[El Cheapo]

If you want a sig from either Davison or Tander, prepare to wait outside their pit for hours and really shove the item in their face when they come out. Otherwise, they'll just walk straight past you most of the time.
I was talking to a guy at Clipsal who said he'd spent a stack of time outside the HRT pit all weekend and still couldn't get a sig.

I waited outside HRT for hours all weekend :rolleyes: I found Will actually pretty cool. He came out a few times and I got a few sigs and he was quite good about it and talkative (for an HRT driver...lol) :p

[FastRedCars]

here's the list of sports currently protected. i know i read somewhere that the anti-siphoning law also relates to digital channels. i just can't remember where i read it.

http://www.keepsportfree.com.au/Content_Common/pg-whats-at-risk-sms.seo

Thanks for this, spolyhronidis. And the answer to your second sentence lies in the link you posted !
Just click that link, then select "the Facts" from the menu on the left, and read the final dot-point on that page. In effect it says : current anti-siphoning laws restrict listed programs to the Free-to-Air Broadcaster's main channel. (But these Broadcasters want the Law updated to allow more sport to be shown on their other F-t-A channels -might have to start a letter writing campaign to local MP's ??? - and to His V8ness, Mr Cochrane, as the V8 Series is on the List.). At least we know where we now stand.

[monarocveightz]

If you want a sig from either Davison or Tander, prepare to wait outside their pit for hours and really shove the item in their face when they come out. Otherwise, they'll just walk straight past you most of the time.
I was talking to a guy at Clipsal who said he'd spent a stack of time outside the HRT pit all weekend and still couldn't get a sig.

I did that at Bathurst in '07.....gave up waiting for Skaife....so went to the official signing (the one near the marshalling area) instead.....

Did bump into Tander outside of HRT last year....and even got a pic...

[HRT1]

I went to homebush last year, dunno if that made the difference but I was outside the hrt pit a few times over the weekend and got both tander and davo to sign multiple things each for me. I found lowndes and whincup much harder to het hold of (due to popularity mainly)