Moffat Mustangs/devil monaro?

[pro-4x4]

Hi Everyone... I have just joined! But have been reading these threads for awhile, a lot of info out there.
I have two query's ONE: The Moffat mustang's, Is the #1 part off the set? as some threads I have seen seem to only state the #9 and the Brute #33. They say the #1 mustang is the USA version But did he drive that one? Would you buy that one or spend alittle more and go for the #9?

TWO: Devil yellow moraro's, why do they cost so much more than the other one's? is just because they are yellow? This also goes for the HSV one's. I have got two yellow cv8's from the USA off e-bay at $43.00 each,cost me $142.00NZ slow shipping though. Are mine the same car's? They do come in a window box and guess there's no COA. But is that it? Is the COA worth $100+ dollar's?
Thanks for looking in on this thread.
Cheers Pro-4x4

[brchi17]

G'day & welcome to the forum :)

About the Devil CV8's the one's without a COA are what was left over from the initial release (4000) for the rest of the world to purchase.

Admin spoke of this in more detail a long, lojng time ago & it was something a long the lines of,...... of the 4000 made, say 3000 came with COA's for Australia & NZ & the other 1000 were released for the rest of the world without COA's.

At the end of the date the production # on the certificates are correct, it's just that there was not COA's made for each car produced.

As to why the Yellow one's are worth more than other colours, I've no idea, perhaps it's because they look better & that is a more popular colour ???

cheers. :)

[pro-4x4]

Thanks for that Brchi17, So there was only 4000 made anyway with and without COA'S. I guess the Sydney motor show Monaro's is another kettle of fish, as I see on e-bay now there is one and the seller is saying 1 of 504 made! looks the same as mine. go figure! Thanks for the answer.

Cheers

[biante11500]

the #1 mustang was a 1of 1000 model released in the usa. no real driver car. the brut#33 and coke#9 are the only moffat mustangs that have been released so far. there is a third car scheduled to come out in mid 2004.a union travel livery moffat mustang as it was last raced in newzeland. i purchased the #1 car off ebay a couple of weeks ago and made a moffat #4 coke version with headlight covers and a few other mods. it looks great with the brut#33 and #9 coke mustangs.i just wanted a different version and it gave me something to work on.:)

[brchi17]

Originally posted by pro-4x4
Thanks for that Brchi17, So there was only 4000 made anyway with and without COA'S. I guess the Sydney motor show Monaro's is another kettle of fish, as I see on e-bay now there is one and the seller is saying 1 of 504 made! looks the same as mine. go figure! Thanks for the answer.

Cheers

No worries :)

You are right with the Sydney motor show cars being a separate kettle of fish as they were not an offical part of any collection & were released in a total number of 504.

These came in a multi-coloured box, with a special COA & out of the 504 they were evenly split with
168 Devil Yellow
168 Red Hot
168 Silver

They are extreamly rare & hense why they are soooooooo much dearer than all other Monaro's of the same colour.

Hope this helps,

cheers.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by pro-4x4

TWO: Devil yellow moraro's, .....
I have got two yellow cv8's from the USA off e-bay at $43.00 each,cost me $142.00NZ slow shipping though. Are mine the same car's? They do come in a window box and guess there's no COA. But is that it? Is the COA worth $100+ dollar's?


The difference in CoA and non-CoA prices is huge only for the DY CV8 and the SR Clubby. These are probably the only two Biante models an Aussie might consider purchasing without a CoA.

Even with that, the CoAs apparently ARE worth a lot, because most Aussies don't seem interested in non-CoA CV8s or Clubbys, unless they are about half the price (or more).

I have noticed through recent searches, though, that even the non-CoA versions of the DY CV8 are becoming scarce in the US.

BC

[pro-4x4]

Thanks for all that info guy's,

Cheers.

[Leigh]

Yellow would appear to be a very popular colour for all models...in general a yellow model will fetch a better price than other colours...

Moffat never raced a Mustang with the number 1 on it...as Tony said, made for the American market...

As for the Sydney motor show Monaro's, as far as I can tell, they are just different boxes.

The COA is important to Australians as it adds another level of security to the purchase. As somebody said a while ago, it would not be difficult to re-spray some red Monaros yellow and flog them off, if you didn't also have to forge the certificate...

Cheers

[pro-4x4]

I guess the bottom line with the COA's is did you buy it because you have the real car in your shed and is a novelty? I agree that with the COA's your model hold's a better value, as I am getting the Moffat car's and have seen the XY #9 fake one and a #9 Mustang that have no COA's with them and have not got them because of that fact, I think that with a racing car there is more history with the car than a road going car, Hence I find it hard to see history behind a road car, I guess the COA's for them are just as important as they are with the race car's. If you are collecting them. It wouldn't surprise me if someone has already resprayed a car and made a copy of a COA and sold it off Leigh, With today's tech gear anything is possible. A little harder with a race car to copy I would think.(more time) Is this a problem that may came in the future? How would you know if I had the same COA number as your XYGT? I'm new at this how could i tell if it's not the real thing?

With the Mustang's I asked as Gateway models show all three under the heading of Moffat's Mustang's, Now I know I will save a little more and go for #9 and #33 one's first!
Thanks Glen.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
The COA is important to Australians as it adds another level of security to the purchase. As somebody said a while ago, it would not be difficult to re-spray some red Monaros yellow and flog them off, if you didn't also have to forge the certificate...

Cheers

Agreed, but, from what I've read out here, I thought it was impossible to totally disassemble the model without some cutting (like the calipers, I believe). So, I guess my question is this; even if the respray is flawless, is it possible to mask all evidence of having disassembled the model?

BC

[Leigh]

I know what you're saying...but most wouldn't know what to look for...

As for the race car re-sprays...there are pictures of mock-ups of existing models on this forum that look pretty convincing...

Cheers