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TIC-302
17-03-2004, 01:23 PM
Practice,qualifying, and top 10 shootout all on friday.
I hope its an all FORD front row !;)

Lowndes and Ambrose:D

wayno
17-03-2004, 01:25 PM
Ford can have the front row. We'll take the top three on Saturday and Sunday thank-you! :D

TIC-302
17-03-2004, 01:28 PM
you wish

wayno
17-03-2004, 01:30 PM
And it shall be granted!

HRT 1-2
17-03-2004, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by TIC-302
Practice,qualifying, and top 10 shootout all on friday.
I hope its an all FORD front row !;)

Lowndes and Ambrose

Form so far, particularly Lowndes, would indicate you'll probably be right:rolleyes:

TIC-302
17-03-2004, 03:51 PM
The GP form doesn't mean much as far as V8 supercar drivers ar concerned, I am going by previous years results.

Ambrose
skaife
bright
Lowndes

were all very strong there in the past

So if your looking at the GP as a form guide you must know alot about V8 supercars:rolleyes:

GRPIII
17-03-2004, 04:25 PM
how about skaife & toddler
HRT had a good run there over the past years, and even from the back.

HRT 1-2
17-03-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by TIC-302
The GP form doesn't mean much as far as V8 supercar drivers ar concerned, I am going by previous years results.

Ambrose
skaife
bright
Lowndes

were all very strong there in the past

So if your looking at the GP as a form guide you must know alot about V8 supercars:rolleyes:

When was the last Adelaide round win for Ambrose or Lowndes (in a Ford)? For that matter when was the last time Ford won an Adelaide round?

Last years podium was:

Skaife
Richards
Bright

with Todd Kelly 4th

I'd be silly to say Ford doesn’t have the goods but, the 12 month old form guide doesn't help your cause either!

Pedro
17-03-2004, 04:59 PM
The Clipsal 500 has been HRT's stomping ground for a few years now so history has them doing well.

69Mach1
17-03-2004, 05:41 PM
Just remember the only competetive BA Falcon is Ambrose. Ingall has a good car but he is too busy playing bumper cars with the Holdens. The rest of the Ford Teams have got a long way to go to catch the Stone Brothers this year.

My tips for Adelaide Quartet are

Skaife
Ambrose
Bright
Murphy

Dark Horse is the Orrcon Team drivers

Kiwiracing
17-03-2004, 05:43 PM
You are all wrong, it'll be Murph on top (he's learnt how to get off the line - fast):)

Kiwiracing

69Mach1
17-03-2004, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
You are all wrong, it'll be Murph on top (he's learnt how to get off the line - fast):)

Kiwiracing

Got a valid point , he is the inform driver at the moment

stonebrosfan
17-03-2004, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
You are all wrong, it'll be Murph on top (he's learnt how to get off the line - fast):)

Kiwiracing

murph has one major flaw:

he is from new zealand! :D

sbf

HRT 1-2
17-03-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
You are all wrong, it'll be Murph on top (he's learnt how to get off the line - fast):)

Kiwiracing

And when he doesn't quite get off the line the quickest, he'll nail your ass;)

V8SS
18-03-2004, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by stonebrosfan
murph has one major flaw:

he is from new zealand! :D

sbf

Sorry to burst your bubble but so are Ross and Jimmy Stone.:D

HRT 1-2
18-03-2004, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by V8SS
Sorry to burst your bubble but so are Ross and Jimmy Stone.:D

Touché V8SS, Touché:D

TIC-302
18-03-2004, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by HRT 1-2
When was the last Adelaide round win for Ambrose or Lowndes (in a Ford)? For that matter when was the last time Ford won an Adelaide round?

Last years podium was:

Skaife
Richards
Bright

with Todd Kelly 4th

I'd be silly to say Ford doesn’t have the goods but, the 12 month old form guide doesn't help your cause either!

Just to mention a few,

Lowndes race 1 winner in 2001 (FORd)

Ambrose 3rd in race 1 2002

Lowndes 4th in race 1 2002

lowndes 4th in race 2 2002

Ambrose 1st in race 1 2003

These are not great results compared to HRT record.
It just prooves what i stated before that the above 2 ford drivers always go ok at the clipsal 500

HRT 1-2
18-03-2004, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by TIC-302
Just to mention a few,

Lowndes race 1 winner in 2001 (FORd)

Ambrose 3rd in race 1 2002

Lowndes 4th in race 1 2002

lowndes 4th in race 2 2002

Ambrose 1st in race 1 2003

These are not great results compared to HRT record.
It just prooves what i stated before that the above 2 ford drivers always go ok at the clipsal 500

I still don't see any round wins as I stated before but, granted they go OK!

Kiwiracing
18-03-2004, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by stonebrosfan
murph has one major flaw:

he is from new zealand! :D

sbf

Yes, but whats your Location? Aren't we supposed to display it:p

Kiwiracing

TIC-302
18-03-2004, 07:24 PM
GO THE FORDS:D


I need to stir up some you big nose supporters!

HRT 1-2
18-03-2004, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by TIC-302
GO THE FORDS:D


I need to stir up some you big nose supporters!

That's the funny thing with you blokes, just because I follow HRT means I must be a Skaife supporter, nah!

I follow the team before the players and followed the team well before MS came near it!

TIC-302
19-03-2004, 07:37 AM
Practice 1

yeah go the fords!!

1 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 5000 20 12 1:23.2625*
2 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 5000 16 8 1:23.3521 0:00.0896
3 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 5000 17 17 1:23.3610 0:00.0985
4 11 Castrol Perkins Racing Team Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 5000 14 13 1:23.5390 0:00.2765
5 31 Supercheap Auto Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 5000 19 19 1:23.7172 0:00.4547
6 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 5000 17 15 1:23.7737 0:00.5112
7 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 5000 18 13 1:23.8738 0:00.6113
8 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 5000 17 13 1:23.9661 0:00.7036
9 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 5000 18 13 1:23.9855 0:00.7230
10 29 Sirromet - Life,Style,Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY 5000 18 18 1:24.0456 0:00.7831
11 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY 5000 15 12 1:24.0622 0:00.7997
12 51 K-Mart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 5000 18 8 1:24.0787 0:00.8162
13 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 5000 20 13 1:24.1506 0:00.8881
14 3 Lansvale Smash Repairs Jason Richards Holden Commodore VX 5000 19 16 1:24.1852 0:00.9227
15 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 5000 15 10 1:24.2332 0:00.9707
16 15 K-Mart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 5000 16 15 1:24.2352 0:00.9727
17 23 WPS Financial Solutions David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 5000 14 10 1:24.3063 0:01.0438
18 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 5000 17 13 1:24.4011 0:01.1386
19 44 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 5000 13 8 1:24.5252 0:01.2627
20 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VX 5000 18 15 1:24.5428 0:01.2803
21 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 5000 17 17 1:24.6321 0:01.3696
22 20 Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 5000 15 12 1:24.6733 0:01.4108
23 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 5000 18 10 1:24.6759 0:01.4134
24 7 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Tony Longhurst Holden Commodore VY 5000 20 13 1:24.7635 0:01.5010
25 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 5000 17 17 1:24.9538 0:01.6913
26 21 OzEmail Racing Team Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 5000 18 8 1:24.9820 0:01.7195
27 10 Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 5000 14 6 1:25.0082 0:01.7457
28 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 5000 10 9 1:25.0117 0:01.7492
29 5 Ford Performance Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 5000 16 16 1:25.7499 0:02.4874
30 45 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY 5000 20 20 1:26.0173 0:02.7548
31 24 Romano Racing Phillip Scifleet Holden Commodore VX 5000 7 7 1:26.9846 0:03.7221
32 99 Thexton Motor Racing David Thexton Ford Falcon BA 5000 21 19 1:28.9118 0:05.6493
33 43 PWR Performance Products David Krause Holden Commodore VX 5000 3 3 1:31.8335 0:08.5710
34 14 Imrie Motor Sport Terry Wyhoon Holden Commodore VX 5000 1
021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY 5000

69Mach1
19-03-2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by TIC-302
Practice,qualifying, and top 10 shootout all on friday.
I hope its an all FORD front row !;)

Lowndes and Ambrose:D

That aint going to happen !!!

diecastdude
19-03-2004, 03:10 PM
Skaife and Kelly fail to make the top ten shootout. Might be a great year !

69Mach1
19-03-2004, 03:22 PM
Lets have a look at Ambrose's record over the past couple of Adelaide 500's

2003

DNF 4 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA
73 laps 02:02:55.9659 Fast lap 1:23.4156

2002

DNF 4 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon AU
67 laps 01:49:26.4526 Fast lap 1:24.9767

That's consistancy for you.....

TIC-302
19-03-2004, 05:14 PM
i hope you eat your words on sunday night!

that 69 mach 1 must have a holden badge on it:rolleyes:

HRT 1-2
19-03-2004, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by diecastdude
Skaife and Kelly fail to make the top ten shootout. Might be a great year !

What? Been poppy hunting have we? Don't hold your breath;)

HRT 1-2
19-03-2004, 10:06 PM
13th to 1st has got to be easier than last to 1st:D :p

TIC-302
20-03-2004, 05:12 AM
What about 13th to DNF.

mid field is very dangerous for any driver

the_goldie
20-03-2004, 05:33 AM
woohooo some hope at last seeing good old Murph and Bright in 1 & 2 for the start.

I can't believe there is no HRT car in the top 10 :eek:

Just finished reading the HRT book - maybe being the owner (or whatever Skaifes role is) is taking a toll on him - time will tell.

the_goldie
20-03-2004, 05:52 AM
From the V8 site -

"Skaife has missed a Top 10 shootout just four times in 46 races since the fastest lap concept was introduced in 2001. For the first time in the history of the shootout the Holden Racing Team does not have a car in the Top 10."

Also anybody notice that PWR have changed the colour of their bonnet?

brchi17
20-03-2004, 05:52 AM
Originally posted by the_goldie
woohooo some hope at last seeing good old Murph and Bright in 1 & 2 for the start.

I can't believe there is no HRT car in the top 10 :eek:

Just finished reading the HRT book - maybe being the owner (or whatever Skaifes role is) is taking a toll on him - time will tell.

I wonder if HRT were trying some different set-ups (for the race) & they got caught out come qualifying ???

It's hard to imagine HRT being sooooo far down the grid, & I really don't expect them stay there during the race, espically at Adelaide.

cheers.

GO DJR !!!!

TIC-302
20-03-2004, 01:17 PM
FORD WINS RACE 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D

diecastdude
20-03-2004, 01:19 PM
They are eating their words !

diecastdude
20-03-2004, 01:35 PM
Tomorrow its lobster Murph can't take the heat

Y2Joel
20-03-2004, 01:47 PM
Paul Morris did well. I'm a big fan of his and if he didn't stuff up the restart on cold tyres, he might of finished further up still. If its hot tomorrow, he'll be up their.

Kiwiracing
20-03-2004, 02:10 PM
I reckon Murph will do it tomorrow, he was by far the fastest in the last third of the race, had he pitted when Ambrose had it would have been all over rover for SBR.

Interesting to hear that the SBR cars were covering the K-mart pit when both Ambrose and Ingall pitted at the same time.

All in all a very good race, HRT seem to have a bit to sort out, 2 cars down one to go:eek:

Look forward to tomorrow. Wish I was there.

Cheers
Kiwiracing

HRT 1-2
20-03-2004, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by diecastdude
They are eating their words !

I seem to remember being here last year and what happened Sunday, down boy, chickens are still hatching!

Seriously, well done SBR, great strategy to get both cars back in while they were in traffic that made the diff and even better strategy from PMR & DJR back to back pit stops . Crap strategy from KRT!

Y2Joel
20-03-2004, 03:40 PM
How about Steven Johnsons wheel nut on his BA Falcon. Reminded me when Moffat couldn't get the door open on his Mazda RX7 and when DJ couldn't get the seat back in the DJR Sierra.

Esses
20-03-2004, 04:54 PM
....actually reminds me more of the Charger they couldn't get the wheel nuts off've at Bathurst. Or the Xu-1 that ran out of petrol with the race shot to bits, sob....

Esses
20-03-2004, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
I reckon Murph will do it tomorrow, he was by far the fastest in the last third of the race, had he pitted when Ambrose had it would have been all over rover for SBR.

Interesting to hear that the SBR cars were covering the K-mart pit when both Ambrose and Ingall pitted at the same time.

All in all a very good race, HRT seem to have a bit to sort out, 2 cars down one to go:eek:

Look forward to tomorrow. Wish I was there.

Cheers
Kiwiracing

All over, Rover? What about Murph's spin? How many places did he lose there? Granted it was a top drive to get back up the board, likewise Seton after the same spin, knockers take note.

Malik
20-03-2004, 05:39 PM
I just noticed that Romano Racing had an entry in the Clipsal as did Thexton according to the entry list..

did anyone see either of them?

I noticed the Romano car at the start of the race (No 24) with what looked like Jim Beam sponsorships on it.. dunno who was driving.

Kiwiracing
20-03-2004, 05:53 PM
I also noticed the car Noske was to drive is actually been driven by Besnard, although they did say they were going to be a two car team, plus is their sponsor the same one that is on the offical safety car?

Anyone there today that confirm this for me.

Cheers

Kiwiracing

the_goldie
21-03-2004, 06:11 AM
Do you guys think the drivers who DNFd in Race 1 will be chasing hard all season to catch up from their 0 points haul from race 1?

How many bad rounds do you think you can have this season before you fall out of contention of getting the number 1 on your car?



22 3 Lansvale Smash Repairs Jason Richards Holden Commodore VX 0 0
23 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 0 0
24 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 0 0
25 24 Romano Racing Phillip Scifleet Holden Commodore VX 0 0
26 31 Supercheap Auto Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 0 0
27 44 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 0 0
28 45 Road Ships/Alpha West/Holden Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY 0 0
29 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 0 0
30 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 0 0
31 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 0 0


Great result for the Paul's driving Holdens in Race 1:
Weel - 5th
Morris - 76h
Dumbrell - 8th

Not so good for the other Paul in the Ford :
Rat - DNFd

brchi17
21-03-2004, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by Malik
I just noticed that Romano Racing had an entry in the Clipsal as did Thexton according to the entry list..

did anyone see either of them?

I noticed the Romano car at the start of the race (No 24) with what looked like Jim Beam sponsorships on it.. dunno who was driving.

Here are the info for you Malik. I also added the other cars that DNQ.
24 Romano Racing Phillip Scifleet Holden Commodore VX - DNF lap 2, race 1
99 Thexton Motor Racing David Thexton Ford Falcon BA - DNQ
43 PWR Performance Products David Krause Holden Commodore VX - DNQ 1:27.4856
14 Imrie Motor Sport Terry Wyhoon Holden Commodore VX - DNQ 1:27.4730

cheers. :)

acpl
21-03-2004, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by Y2Joel
Reminded me when Moffat couldn't get the door open on his Mazda Thats why you dont buy jap crap

acpl
21-03-2004, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
I also noticed the car Noske was to drive is actually been driven by Besnard, although they did say they were going to be a two car team, plus is their sponsor the same one that is on the offical safety car?

Anyone there today that confirm this for me.

Cheers

Kiwiracing maby Noske was driving the safty car

Leigh
21-03-2004, 09:20 AM
WPS Racing (Besnard and Noske) only have one BA race-ready atm...They also only have one franchise (a level 2 leased from Tasman/LRT).

Romano, Imrie and PWR all have L2 franchises for sale...WPS want one but not at the price they are asking. Seeing as they don't have a second car ready, they are waiting for one of the three franchise owners to get desperate for a sale...

L2 franchises must be used at all events this year, or face a $150K no-show fee.

Cheers

Leigh
21-03-2004, 09:22 AM
PS...it is the same WPS (Wright, Patton, Shakespeare) that sponsors both the twocar race eam and the safety cars...

Cheers

Y2Joel
21-03-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by acpl
Thats why you dont buy jap crap

Too right. No ricers for me.

Kiwiracing
21-03-2004, 12:04 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Lowndes jumped ship from Ford back to Holden, what with 4 years of bad luck. Good to see his he still has a smile on his face. Seems like a nice guy, just watched the interview after his car cooked yet another engine.

Kiwiracing

Kiwiracing
21-03-2004, 01:11 PM
Congrats to Ambrose, well driven in a race of high attrition, can't believe there are so few finishers - 17.

Now on to - EC.

Cool
Kiwiracing

bernoo
21-03-2004, 01:18 PM
FORD WON AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as for all you holden fans GAMEOVER....HHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAA A:D

TIC-302
21-03-2004, 01:26 PM
FORD WINS CLIPSALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FORD WINS CLIPSAL

diecastdude
21-03-2004, 01:37 PM
Ford wins times are a changing.

brchi17
21-03-2004, 02:02 PM
Well while the main team might have not had such a good day (to say the very least !!!) the junior team had a great hit-out with Owen Kelly doing the job for the team.

Here's the press release from the V8 Supercar website (http://www.v8supercar.com.au)

Kelly Wins Konica Minolta Clipsal Round

Team Fujitsu's Owen Kelly has won the second round of the Konica Minolta V8 Supercar Series at the Adelaide Clipsal 500. Kelly backed up his win in last night's twilight race with a superb drive this morning, taking the win in convincing fashion.

In the early stages of the race the Fujitsu Ford started losing power, as soon as Kelly crossed the finish line he had to pull over and park the car.

"With about 15 laps to go the car seemed to drop a cylinder, and I thought oh no it's all over again, so I tried to nurse it around and lucky it got there (to the finish)," Team Fujitsu's Owen Kelly said.

"I kept going as hard as I could, but it seemed to be going ok, so we just kept going as best we could.

"I was very concerned that I might not finish but I just kept driving and focussing on the job.

"The car literally stopped on the line so I parked it down on the chicane."

Kelly was ecstatic to win his first round of the season and make an impact on the championship.

"It means a lot (the win) 'cause I want to win all races, but it's good to win," Kelly said.

"I were so far in front last year and broke down, to finally have a change of luck is good.

"The win also give me the points I need, obviously it gets our points back on track and we can get on with it."

Kelly's teammate Jose Fernandez gave Team Fujitsu added reason to celebrate with a sixth placing.

"It's great for the team that both its drivers finished in the top-six," Jose Fernandez said.

"I got touched early in the race which turned me around, but I quickly gained the positions lost and got on with it.

"It was a bit like last night's race, we were again spread out so I just tried to bring it home as best I could so that I added to my points tally."

Owen Kelly now sits in sixth place of the Konica Minolta V8 Supercar Series with teammate one above in fifth.

Now if we can get Junior & Luffy to stay on the track, I think the main team might be in for a change in thier fortunes ???

cheers. :)

TIC-302
21-03-2004, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
I wouldn't be surprised if Lowndes jumped ship from Ford back to Holden, what with 4 years of bad luck. Good to see his he still has a smile on his face. Seems like a nice guy, just watched the interview after his car cooked yet another engine.

Kiwiracing

I was just thinking the same thing today!

this is his 4th year with Ford, and he hasn't delivered, due to mant,many reasons, IMO he is the best driver in the category
but hasn't had the equipment to proove it.

I'm sure Holden would welcome him with open arms.

I hope he stays and wins the championship in 2005 !;)

Y2Joel
21-03-2004, 04:31 PM
I think I would welcome Lowndes back, Kelly simply isn't performing at HRT.

Elvis
22-03-2004, 04:54 AM
Originally posted by Y2Joel
I think I would welcome Lowndes back, Kelly simply isn't performing at HRT.

Yeah,your not wrong there Joel-went much better at K-mart/Young Lions.

Well done to Ambrose-He does it so easily-He is in a class of his own,but dont get too cocky Bernoo,its only round ONE.
Sucked in Bingall,wish ya the same bad result next round.

Leigh
22-03-2004, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Y2Joel
I think I would welcome Lowndes back, Kelly simply isn't performing at HRT.
..but who wants to be a number two driver?

Not Lowndes, Murphy or Bright...

Cheers

TIC-302
22-03-2004, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by Elvis

Sucked in Bingall,wish ya the same bad result next round.

your a nice peice of work;)

Elvis
22-03-2004, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by TIC-302
your a nice peice of work

Shame Bingalls not,that idiot deserves all the crap he gets,though i really like Ambrose and i think hes got the best paintjob in the field so for 2004 Go Ambrose and Go Murphy.

brchi17
22-03-2004, 06:21 AM
Did anyone catch Cameron McConville's interview after the race ???

It seems that it might be the company line (in the Red corner) to blame Russ everytime there is a big crash. During this interview Cam said the following when asked about who hit him "I'm not sure who it was but I think Russell or someone gave me a tap in the middle of the corner"

Now what i find suprising about this is that Ingall had retired well over an hour earlier before this crash, yet he seems to be on the tip of people's tounges when there are big insidents :( ???

cheers.

BB
22-03-2004, 06:56 AM
I would just like to take this opportunity to say thankyou to Richard for taking the time out of his busy schedule to catch up with "stonebrosfan", "badbilly" and myself for dinner at the Earl of Aberdeen Friday night and for what was an amazing weekend of action. "Turn 8" has proved yet again to be one of the most dangerous/exciting/expensive corners on the calender. My heart goes out to Matt Coleman after his huge shunt in the Carrera Cup. I would be interested to get other peoples opinion on "that" corner and what suggestions they might have to improve the safety.

TIC-302
22-03-2004, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by brchi17
Did anyone catch Cameron McConville's interview after the race ???

It seems that it might be the company line (in the Red corner) to blame Russ everytime there is a big crash. During this interview Cam said the following when asked about who hit him "I'm not sure who it was but I think Russell or someone gave me a tap in the middle of the corner"

Now what i find suprising about this is that Ingall had retired well over an hour earlier before this crash, yet he seems to be on the tip of people's tounges when there are big insidents :( ???

cheers.

Maybe Cam thought Russell was still driving for Perkins:confused:

But after a shunt like that you can't blame him for being a bit confused.

the_goldie
22-03-2004, 10:39 AM
Interesting top 10 after round 01 a few surprises in there.

2 PWR cars and 2 K-Mart cars. Only team with 2 cars in. Besides Morris who is only a 1 car team anyway - which is a surprise to be in the 10. I wonder if he can stay there?

I am sure SBR would have had 2 cars as well had Ingall finished. Also CPR would have had 2 cars if Dumbrell was not penalised 75points.

1 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 96 96 192
2 11 Castrol Perkins Racing Team Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 93 93 186
3 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 84 87 171
4 51 K-Mart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 87 72 159
5 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 57 90 147
6 15 K-Mart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 63 81 144
7 29 Sirromet - Life,Style,Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY 81 51 132
8 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 72 54 126
9 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 78 48 126
10 10 Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 36 84 120

V8SS
22-03-2004, 10:48 AM
Big effort from Paul Weel in race 1. Didn't he start from 2nd last?
I thought Dumbrell did well in race 1 as well. Skaife was finding it hard to shake off rookie in the old VX. Can't comment on race 2 as we haven't seen it over here yet.

the_goldie
22-03-2004, 11:14 AM
I didn't realise Bright got past Weel in Race 2, Dr Tooheys must have taken over by then ;) Did Weel let him by or did Bright put on a good move? Pity would have liked to have seen Weel on the podium - seeing as though they don't go by overall results for the podium spots.

Kiwiracing
22-03-2004, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by the_goldie
I didn't realise Bright got past Weel in Race 2, Dr Tooheys must have taken over by then ;) Did Weel let him by or did Bright put on a good move? Pity would have liked to have seen Weel on the podium - seeing as though they don't go by overall results for the podium spots.

Weel let him bye, well done to both of them.

Cheers
Kiwiracing

HRT 1-2
22-03-2004, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by Y2Joel
I think I would welcome Lowndes back, Kelly simply isn't performing at HRT.

Big ditto from me on that one, I would be over the moon!

Thing is, would it be possible due to the past?

HRT 1-2
22-03-2004, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by lcfp2297
..but who wants to be a number two driver?

Not Lowndes, Murphy or Bright...

Cheers

Fair point Leigh!

Is there such a thing as equals in this sport?

Kiwiracing
22-03-2004, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by HRT 1-2
Fair point Leigh!

Is there such a thing as equals in this sport?

Sure there is:

Ford = Holden (squared) divided by the hypotenuse of Cochrane:D

Kiwiracing

HRT 1-2
22-03-2004, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by brchi17
Did anyone catch Cameron McConville's interview after the race ???

It seems that it might be the company line (in the Red corner) to blame Russ everytime there is a big crash. During this interview Cam said the following when asked about who hit him "I'm not sure who it was but I think Russell or someone gave me a tap in the middle of the corner"

Now what i find suprising about this is that Ingall had retired well over an hour earlier before this crash, yet he seems to be on the tip of people's tounges when there are big insidents :( ???

cheers.

I thought he confused Todd with Bingall!

Didn't he say, “I think Russell got passed then someone tapped me�, could be wrong and I didn't tape it plus as Goldie said, I may have had the Larger Goggles on by then ;)

brchi17
22-03-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by the_goldie
I didn't realise Bright got past Weel in Race 2, Dr Tooheys must have taken over by then ;) Did Weel let him by or did Bright put on a good move? Pity would have liked to have seen Weel on the podium - seeing as though they don't go by overall results for the podium spots.

From memory, Bright out-braked Weel at the end of the long back straight & Paul didn't give much of a fight to hold him off, even thought they were side by side entering the corner.

cheers. :)

HRT 1-2
22-03-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
Sure there is:

Ford = Holden (squared) divided by the hypotenuse of Cochrane:D

Kiwiracing

LOL

I did mean equal drivers within a team!

Y2Joel
22-03-2004, 12:47 PM
I hope Morris can keep up in the standings this year. If Seton hadn't hit him, he could've been top 5 in the championship.

Mux
22-03-2004, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Kiwiracing
I also noticed the car Noske was to drive is actually been driven by Besnard, although they did say they were going to be a two car team, plus is their sponsor the same one that is on the offical safety car?

Anyone there today that confirm this for me.

Cheers

Kiwiracing

I was reading an article and they dont have two licenses yet or something, so they're swapping. Noske drove at GP and Besnard at Clipsal. They will interchange until they both can race.

I was there, and god damn it was awesome. It smashed crowd records again, awesome weather, great racing, great grid girls.

Had great seats aswell. The major crach in race 2 was right in front of me.

I'll attach some pics later. Took plenty.

Malik
22-03-2004, 05:04 PM
Turn 8 is the place to sit!...

BB
22-03-2004, 05:34 PM
An announcement on the news tonight in Adelaide has said that "tens of thousands of extra seats" will be added for 2005 and beyond. I hope there better than the one I bought. (see pic) Luckily I had friends further down pit straight with spare seats around them. I have E-mailed my pics x 3 to Clipsal Management to voice my concerns so hopefully nobody will have the same problem in the future.

Mux
22-03-2004, 09:28 PM
jee, thats shocking. The only thing pit straight is good for is watching the start and finish of the races, and seeing the pits..other than that there is no action. To me it'd be a big waste of money. I had a look at the top stand and your view was still limited.

BB
23-03-2004, 05:56 AM
Where were you Mux? My seat was actually at the corner coming onto Pit Straight which has usually been pretty good.

Mux
23-03-2004, 06:14 PM
I was at the end of brabham straight, alot of action around me.

Oh Five
23-03-2004, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by BB
[. I hope there better than the one I bought. (see pic) Luckily I had friends further down pit straight with spare seats around them. . [/B]

you had a great view of the "corporate freeloaders" above the pits enjoying themselves, BB:D

chups
24-03-2004, 10:47 AM
this is the view from my seat, apart from the fence which you soon forget about, the view was pretty good.

BB
24-03-2004, 11:11 AM
We missed you on Friday night Chups where were you?

Thanks to Richard for taking time out to catch up with stonebrosfan, badbilly and me though. It was a good night.

I moved around a bit while I was there. I didnt actually sit at my seat. I also had a friend in a corporate box at Senne chicane and watched the top ten shootout from there. I agree Mux, the hairpin at the end of Brabham Straight or turn 8 are the way to go.

Leigh
24-03-2004, 11:18 AM
http://www.racenews.com.au/?racenews=5921

Interesting that PWR Racing's "Control ECU Loom was not in compliance with the Rules" in the first race...

Cheers

HRT 1-2
24-03-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by lcfp2297
http://www.racenews.com.au/?racenews=5921

Interesting that PWR Racing's "Control ECU Loom was not in compliance with the Rules" in the first race...

Cheers

How did Mark Noske get pinged for a driving infringement when he wasn't driving? That should be enough to clear them;)

wayno
24-03-2004, 01:35 PM
Well done to Ambrose, the win was much deserved. My highlight was Paul Weels drive on Saturday. It's amazing what you can achieve if you drive sensibly and keep your nose clean!

chups
24-03-2004, 03:57 PM
mentioned on the other thread about getting together at the Earl of Aberdeen (also known as the Coopers Brew House) at around 7.00-7.30pm Saturday night for a beer and a feed. The last race finishes at around 6.30pm and its a 15minute walk from the track. Its on the corner of Carrington St. and Pulteney St and its where the last Biante dinner was held.

and i didnt read bevs post properly, so thats why i wasnt there :) also i dint know who i was looking for which makes it hard.

stonebrosfan
24-03-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by chups
and i didnt read bevs post properly, so thats why i wasnt there :) also i dint know who i was looking for which makes it hard.

it was a good night (not many people were there, 7 i think) but it was good to put some faces to names, i now also know that richard isnt an old fart! which is what i originally thought!

stonebrosfan
24-03-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by HRT 1-2
How did Mark Noske get pinged for a driving infringement when he wasn't driving? That should be enough to clear them;)

im not so sure, if the stewards are as bad as last year, he might get a 3 race ban (suspended of course!) :D

BB
24-03-2004, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by stonebrosfan
it was a good night (not many people were there, 7 i think) but it was good to put some faces to names, i now also know that richard isnt an old fart! which is what i originally thought!

That'll get back!

he he he :D