record sale

[inter]

I think this is a record sale?
Moffat Phase 2 64E sold for $810 ( item no # 6901426327). The highest i have ever seen is $610 feb this year.
inter

[the_goldie]

holy @(#$%& I paid $440 back in November 2003. I thought that was expensive at the time, guess not. I guess it has become sought after as the 65E got out of some peoples league but that is surpassing the 65E price tag - strange. Watch those #1Ds start going up.

[terrine]

Originally posted by inter
I think this is a record sale?
Moffat Phase 2 64E sold for $810 ( item no # 6901426327). The highest i have ever seen is $610 feb this year.
inter

the exception rather than the rule i think

check this buyers feedback
50 buys in the last 3 months, the last 23 from this same seller
this buyer is also the top bid on the same sellers DJRXC at $355 with 3 days to run.

where do you find woodducks like this?

r/peter

[jager]

50 buys in the last 3 months, the last 23 from this same seller

Buyer is the Seller ? ? ?

Is someone trying to manipulate the market. ie Sell the 64E for a dummy price, then relist the car a week later and hope that people will pay more because a new 'record' has been set ?

[zeitgeist]

Plus, it took two bidders to get it to that level. Someone had to bid just under him to raise it. Man, oh man. What a windfall for yourmodelcars.

BC

[Dingo]

Originally posted by terrine
check this buyers feedback
50 buys in the last 3 months, the last 23 from this same seller
this buyer is also the top bid on the same sellers DJRXC at $355 with 3 days to run.

where do you find woodducks like this?

Same place you find a guy bidding $470 for the Johnson 1984 XE on Biante Auctions - check out #3811 and make your own conclusions...

[inter]

here is an other record sale?
Moffat 1969 race car for $ 260. ( item no# 69040924350 EBAY).
INTER:)

[Y2Joel]

I've seen one of those in a shop on the mainland with one of those for $295. Bit steep I reckon.

[terrine]

Originally posted by Dingo
Same place you find a guy bidding $470 for the Johnson 1984 XE on Biante Auctions - check out #3811 and make your own conclusions...

and he/she is at it again on the biante auctions...this time the xy historic.

r/peter

[Nick Short]

Curiouser and curiouser......

[inter]

Originally posted by inter
here is an other record sale?
Moffat 1969 race car for $ 260. ( item no# 69040924350 EBAY).
INTER:)
Just sold tonight , item #6103124964 for $266( New Record?)
inter

[zeitgeist]

Hmmm. I wonder if, in the near future, the 61D will pass the 1D in value? There are two 1Ds at $345 and $300, neither of which has a bid.

I agree the 1D is a nice-looking model, but what is its significance in racing history? The other three are no-brainers, but this one leaves me mystified.

BC

[SBR Winner]

This guy/person certainly has too much money or doesn't understand the pricing of cars or possibly both .What price is this guy prepared to pay to have cars of interest in his collection. Surely this type of purchase is well and trully out of the reach of the average collector. Just my opinion , but I'm definately not in the same league.

[inter]

And the price goes up and up, New record? item no#6904999998 Moffat 61D 1969 Falcon sold for $305
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[ferrari fan]

One thing is for sure ; the Moff's machines are popular and if yer still gawking for one or two:mad: , yer gonna peel some serious notes to get one.
They have been out for some considrable time and in a larges issue, so what the deal!?
I am glad I've got them, phewwwww:eek:

[ferrari fan]

One thing is for sure ; the Moff's machines are popular and if yer still gawking for one or two:mad: , yer gonna peel some serious notes to get one.
They have been out for some considrable time and in a larges issue, so what the deal!?
I am glad I've got them, phewwwww

[inter]

An other new record , Moffats 1D 1972 falcon just sold on ebay for $610. Item no # 6909524622.
Inter:(

[BATHURSTFAN]

I've got a 1D but no 65E, I'd rather the 65E though.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by inter
An other new record , Moffats 1D 1972 falcon just sold on ebay for $610. Item no # 6909524622.
Inter:(

That's gotta be an anomaly or someone not up to speed on current values. Even on DMC's website, you can buy it $400 (and that's STILL out of line, market-wise).

BC

[goblues]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
That's gotta be an anomaly or someone not up to speed on current values. Even on DMC's website, you can buy it $400 (and that's STILL out of line, market-wise).

BC

It is possible that DMC have that car undervalued on their website. I advised them of such a possibility yesterday. It will be interesting to see what happens.

But there really is no doubt, the price will climb as time goes on.

Seen the twin mirror currently sitting at $1500.00 on Biante Auctions???

[singer]

Hi all :) ,
The value of all of our (collective models) is of great interest to us all, but the more important question we all have to ask ourselves is:

"Would we sell our models?"

At one point in time I had to sell 98% of my collection. The decision was a "No brainer" for me aas my family's needs come first & foremost.

Even at what I consider to be ridiculous sums, I would NOT sell my models unless something dire happenned to my family. My Wife & Son are of paramount importance to me and worth far more than any model. So if it came to a decision to sell my models again or the welfareof my family, family win hands down all the time.

[inter]

new record sale ( i will stand corrected if i am wrong). Tango xb 1/18 on ebay for $152.50, item 6914808272
inter
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6914808272&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

[castkrazy]

The guy must have really wanted it bad or doesn't know how readily available they still are . :confused:

[Kenseth17]

I have seen on ebay a couple of weeks back that the '69 Moffat XY went for $305.00 At the moment they tend to go for between $205 and $260 The most expensive I have seen the 65e is $800 last year and if you can pick up the 64e for less than $600 bucks, then you have been charmed for sure.This collection of cars along with the 1D are the most sought after pricewise. Wonder how quick the '73 Moffat Bathurst winner will climb after it gets released?

[inter]

New record sale
xd yellow federation moffat car $305 item no #6917285091
http://
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[ferrari fan]

It is a wonderfull model, and the yellow lime colour does set it off very well.
It also does not have these awfull front panlids on the wheels and therefore does show the wheels in all it'ds glory, unlike the kermit ones of DJR.

[Renz Man]

Originally posted by Kenseth17
The most expensive I have seen the 65e is $800 last year and if you can pick up the 64e for less than $600 bucks, then you have been charmed for sure.This collection of cars along with the 1D are the most sought after pricewise.

I have to agree Kenseth. I'm looking at consolidating my collection in selling 'second' issue cars such as Moffat's 61D (along with a few others) to fund prior releases such as 64E. The closest to under $600 I've seen on ebay for the 64E has been $591.

There have been a few earlier ones on Biante's auctions that went for around $500. You do have to be careful of dreamers though. Currently on Biante there is a 64E at $620, 65E at $720 & (get this!) 1D at $760 all not reached reserve EXCLUDING buyers premium. I tell you what, if someone wants my 1D for $760 you can take it off my hands no worries!!

[Kenseth17]

Originally posted by Renz Man
I have to agree Kenseth. I'm looking at consolidating my collection in selling 'second' issue cars such as Moffat's 61D (along with a few others) to fund prior releases such as 64E. The closest to under $600 I've seen on ebay for the 64E has been $591.

There have been a few earlier ones on Biante's auctions that went for around $500. You do have to be careful of dreamers though. Currently on Biante there is a 64E at $620, 65E at $720 & (get this!) 1D at $760 all not reached reserve EXCLUDING buyers premium. I tell you what, if someone wants my 1D for $760 you can take it off my hands no worries!!

Yeah I was playing catch up with the DJR 89 Sierra paid $468.00 including postage, 84 XE paid $402.00 including postage, Moffs 70 Bathurst Winner paid about $650 including postage and all I need now is the 71 Bathurst Winner.As you say, selling some cars here and there just to get this rare 71 Winner is the only way I could afford one.At least they do come up from time to time I guess.

[Y2Joel]

I'm not sure what your all worried about with 65E - It'l probablt be out in minicar soon.:)

[Kenseth17]

Originally posted by Y2Joel
I'm not sure what your all worried about with 65E - It'l probablt be out in minicar soon.:)

Only interested in 1/18.

[ZORAK]

Originally posted by Kenseth17
Only interested in 1/18.

Have to agree with you there... although it would be easier to display the smaller ones - and a lot cheaper!

Z

[Kenseth17]

Originally posted by ZORAK
Have to agree with you there... although it would be easier to display the smaller ones - and a lot cheaper!

Z

Yeah that's for sure. :)

[ZORAK]

Nothing like a room with a couple of hundred 1:18's hanging on the wall :D

Z

[inter]

Dick johnson lakeside sold on ebay item no# 6917819192 for $363 new record
inter

[goblues]

Originally posted by Renz Man


There have been a few earlier ones on Biante's auctions that went for around $500. You do have to be careful of dreamers though. Currently on Biante there is a 64E at $620, 65E at $720 & (get this!) 1D at $760 all not reached reserve EXCLUDING buyers premium. I tell you what, if someone wants my 1D for $760 you can take it off my hands no worries!!

This shows how scary Biante Auctions are. By the time you add commissions etc, the 64E would cost $688.20 plus post, 65E would cost $799.20 plus post and the 1D would cost $843.60 plus post.

I'm thinking these prices are for the elite, not the rest of us. And with bid increments at $55.50 including, you wonder why these don't end up getting sold. To think they might only be $10.00 off hitting reserve, and an actual sale.

[inter]

Originally posted by inter
Dick johnson lakeside sold on ebay item no# 6917819192 for $363 new record
inter
this has now been beaten by biante action 4584 at $430.
inter

[goblues]

Originally posted by inter
this has now been beaten by biante action 4584 at $430.
inter

Is that including commissions etc? If not, it's $477.30 plus post. Ouch!!!

[goblues]

And did anyone happen to see the 65E on Biante Auctions last Saturday night?

I logged in with 15 minutes to go, and the car wasn't there. There was a 1D, but the 65E had vanished. It wasn't in recent sales, and shouldn't have been anyway, as the hammer wasn't supposed to fall for another 15 minutes.

Obviously there is a bug in there somewhere.

I wonder how many other cars have dissappeared before the hammer drops, to the detriment of the seller, and buyers.

[admin]

Originally posted by goblues
And did anyone happen to see the 65E on Biante Auctions last Saturday night?

I logged in with 15 minutes to go, and the car wasn't there. There was a 1D, but the 65E had vanished. It wasn't in recent sales, and shouldn't have been anyway, as the hammer wasn't supposed to fall for another 15 minutes.

Obviously there is a bug in there somewhere.

I wonder how many other cars have dissappeared before the hammer drops, to the detriment of the seller, and buyers.
Check the Auction site time clock compared to the time on your computer.
No one else has a problem with the times.

[goblues]

Originally posted by admin
Check the Auction site time clock compared to the time on your computer.

Checked it tonight against an auction that went at 10:00pm, and it's within 5 seconds of your clock. Not bad.


No one else has a problem with the times.

That we have heard of.

The 1D was still there, with it going at the same time. I'll talk to the seller and see what he knows.

Thanks Admin.

[teambrock50]

I have heard the guy that is paying huge $$$ for the Bianye XY Historic Series has 16 of them now. I wonder what he will do with them all. I would sell them now if i was him as i remember when the 1999 HRT Bathurst cars came out there were going for huge $$$ and now they go for under $220.00 each.

[Patterson]

Originally posted by admin
Check the Auction site time clock compared to the time on your computer.
No one else has a problem with the times.

I had a similar problem yesterday.

Auction was meant to finish at 10pm, i checked at 8:30 and it was nowhere to be seen.

Its not in my winning or losing auctions, or anywhere else in my user history, but I have a receipt.

I've sent an email to auctionadmin and am awaiting a response.

Its just disappeared too....:confused:

[goblues]

Originally posted by Patterson
I had a similar problem yesterday.

Auction was meant to finish at 10pm, i checked at 8:30 and it was nowhere to be seen.

Its not in my winning or losing auctions, or anywhere else in my user history, but I have a receipt.

I've sent an email to auctionadmin and am awaiting a response.

Its just disappeared too....:confused:

Thank you Patterson for having the guts to make this post. I know too well the reception you get when one raises issues like this.

I now feel a little bit better having previously thought I was going mad. :rolleyes:

[inter]

new record sale. Original 1:18 cobra $250 on ebay item no# 6921575842. A little steep i think.
inter

[inter]

Brutt 33 moffat falcon for $357 ebay item no# 6921578759.
Way too much.
inter

[biante11500]

i had to pull out a chunk of change to get the missing piece to my moffat collection. i won a 64e this past week for 455.00 aus+shipping. thats the most i have had to pay for a single model.
but its still cheaper than the online retailers who ask 750.00 for a 64e.;)

[inter]

Wow. New record sale ( Moffat 65e 1:18 scale ) for $986.
Inter

[inter]

For all interested, i have been keeping a record of sales on ebay ( and Sold.com) since Oct 01. Here are some of the record sales
All 1/18 cars
Dick Johnson original xe Green tuff = $450 Sept 04
Dick Johnson XD tru blue original = $ 430 Aug 04
Moffat no#1 cobra = $492 July 03
Original road cobra = $250 ( 3 times)
Moffat Brut 33 = $357 Aug 04
Moffat xd yellow federation = $305 Aug 04
Moffat xc Black federation = $202 March 03
Moffat xb championship = $180 dec 02
cheers inter
yes i know , i have too much time on my hands

[ZORAK]

What about the silly person that paid $255 for the original XB GT last week? That has to be a record!

Z!

[terrine]

Originally posted by inter
Wow. New record sale ( Moffat 65e 1:18 scale ) for $986.
Inter

thanks inter

....and the underbidder on this sale at $976 was a buyer called aussieuk who won another one last week for $895.

the underbidder on another at $851 was a dealer

must be ready to go off
off to twin mirror territory

r/peter

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by inter
For all interested, i have been keeping a record of sales on ebay ( and Sold.com) since Oct 01. Here are some of the record sales



Hey Inter -

Did you validate those against feedback? Just wondered. Man, after seeing some of the goofy prices over the past few weeks, I have NO idea how to value my collection.

Tony! Good to hear you got yourself a 64E. I'm sure we'll soon see some pics from the deck with your newest purchase. Congrats!

BC

[biante11500]

im begining to wonder if i will get to take any pics Brett. the car was shipped on the 8th of september & hasnt gotten here yet.
i dont no whats up with the postal service. its never taken more than two weeks to get here from oz. wednesday will be four weeks if they dont show today.:confused:

[the_goldie]

Tony - I have won items from the US and I think the longest it took was 5weeks. Maybe they sent it by sea and not air? If that is the case it may take 2months?!

I can't believe the price that the 65E has been going for lately. I watch out for them just to see what they go for, but sadly they are out of my price range at the moment.

[biante11500]

thanks for the info goldie. it was supposedly sent economy air?
i have been watching the moffat cars also on ebay. the 65e is going out of site. luckly the only one i was missing was the 64e. its been going from 450 to 750 aus on ebay. i figured if i wanted it i better get now before they got out of my reach. i have made a couple of 65e's using a vermillion fire xy and a jogn goss xy for the wheels and tires and interior with seat belts. i used decals from plato's i painted the windscreen at the top silver, the grill black, the head lights were painted the wheels painted silver and i put the ford license plates on them. if you take your time you can get it to look identical to a 65e. heres one thats a clone. tell me what you think of this one. check this links for the first one i made.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/124314195/1228 06051NFThbK
http://community.webshots.com/photo/124314195/1324 61324QpmZAE:D

[inter]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zeitgeist
[B]Hey Inter -

Did you validate those against feedback? Just wondered. Man, after seeing some of the goofy prices over the past few weeks, I have NO idea how to value my collection.

Yes i did, i have kept record on all the sales of cars that i have in my collection. i Have hll the highest , lowest and median prices.
inter

[goblues]

Originally posted by inter
For all interested, i have been keeping a record of sales on ebay ( and Sold.com) since Oct 01. Here are some of the record sales
All 1/18 cars
Moffat xc Black federation = $202 March 03
Moffat xb championship = $180 dec 02
cheers inter
yes i know , i have too much time on my hands

Moffat xc Black federation = $202.50 22 August 04
Moffat xc Black federation = $207.50 23 August 04
Moffat xb championship = $182.50 27 August 04
Moffat xb championship = $195.00 18 September 04
Moffat xb championship = $305.00 7 September 04

You must have been on holidays from around last week August to third week September. :D

Keep up the good work though. :)

[goblues]

Originally posted by ZORAK
What about the silly person that paid $255 for the original XB GT last week? That has to be a record!

Z!

Don't forget someone else went to $252.50 or what ever to get it up to $255.00!!!

[goblues]

Originally posted by the_goldie
I can't believe the price that the 65E has been going for lately. I watch out for them just to see what they go for, but sadly they are out of my price range at the moment.

I had been thinking along these lines to come to the conclusion that the price will never come back down, so got mine six weeks ago at $740 after it passed in on Biante Auctions.

While I wasn't happy with the price back then, having passed up one for the sake of $20 at $620.00 a month or two earlier, I am starting to smile now.

Although to have the complete Moffat collection I am smiling big time. (Even though the 65E isn't part of the official Biante Moffat collection, I still regard it as part of the Moffat collection. - Collection number 0)

[goblues]

Originally posted by biante11500
thanks for the info goldie. it was supposedly sent economy air?
i have been watching the moffat cars also on ebay. the 65e is going out of site. luckly the only one i was missing was the 64e. its been going from 450 to 750 aus on ebay. i figured if i wanted it i better get now before they got out of my reach. i have made a couple of 65e's using a vermillion fire xy and a jogn goss xy for the wheels and tires and interior with seat belts. i used decals from plato's i painted the windscreen at the top silver, the grill black, the head lights were painted the wheels painted silver and i put the ford license plates on them. if you take your time you can get it to look identical to a 65e. heres one thats a clone. tell me what you think of this one. check this links for the first one i made.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/124314195/1228 06051NFThbK
http://community.webshots.com/photo/124314195/1324 61324QpmZAE:D

Doesn't this just go to prove it's just the COA that's worth all the money, with the actual car worth maybe $80.00?!

[inter]

Originally posted by goblues
Moffat xc Black federation = $202.50 22 August 04
Moffat xc Black federation = $207.50 23 August 04
Moffat xb championship = $182.50 27 August 04
Moffat xb championship = $195.00 18 September 04
Moffat xb championship = $305.00 7 September 04

You must have been on holidays from around last week August to third week September. :D

Keep up the good work though. :)
I do not add any cars up until positive feed back is left.
regards inter

[goblues]

Originally posted by inter
I do not add any cars up until positive feed back is left.
regards inter

Yep, you are right, too much time on your hands. :D :D

[inter]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by goblues
[B]Yep, you are right, too much time on your hands. :


Sorry!!!!!
inter:)

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by goblues
Doesn't this just go to prove it's just the COA that's worth all the money, with the actual car worth maybe $80.00?!

Somewhat, because Tony has done an EXTREMELY good job on the car. If he tried to pass it off as real, he might fool someone.

But, no matter how good of a job one might perform, there are certain VF XY facts that would make it hard to pass as a true 65E : (1) the twin mirrors (2) different bonnet striping (3) different engine wiring (you could tear out the extra wires, I suppose) and (4) a little notch at the base of the hole where the bonnet hinge fits.

I will grant you, though, as the value of this car continues to climb, more people might be tempted to fleece the unaware.

Haven't some Minichamps collectors put together a document to help prospective buyers spot fakes?

Additionally, what do you think Tony's car would be worth if he tried to sell it honestly as a clone? It's VERY nice... and he invested his time, decals and major parts of a Goss XY and VF XY in the process.

BC

[Troy_H]

Great job Tony,

I am thinking i may end up doing this to get a 65e as well.

The problem here is that with the price of that car getting up to crazy levels, anyone who wants a complete Bathurst Winners or Moffat collection will have to find one or make one out of other cars.

Im not really concerned about the box or the certificate, I just want the winner from that year represented so making one myself is the perfect option.

I guess its always going to be difficult to fool someone when you use water slide decals too.

[KiwiRallyFan]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
But, no matter how good of a job one might perform, there are certain VF XY facts that would make it hard to pass as a true 65E....
(5) Missing rollcage.
(6) No COA (with signature).

[goblues]

The price of this car, plus some others, will probably tempt some 'professionals' to create the cars, create the coa's, boxes etc, and flog them off. And if they number the COA's above the 6000 mark for the 65E for example, it may not be noticed by the uninformed. Duplicate COA's probably wouldn't be picked up anyway, even by us.

Now here's a thought. How many people here can say that Biante have replicated the 65E EXACTLY as it was in the 1971 race, with font sizes scaled exactly, all sponsor decals etc, stripes, tyre tread (start of race maybe) interior details etc.

How do we know we haven't been duped by Biante? :D

[biante11500]

thanks troy, the only reason i put this 65e up was to let some of the members know there is and alternative. rather than paying crazy money for a real 65e with a certificate. if most of you are like me you just want the car to display with the rest of the collection. if you do decide to make one be sure to use clear coat enamel paint or clear fast dry finger nail polish over the decals. you want have to worry about them peeling up or discoloring in the future. i do have a real 65e in my collection at home. i made this one for my girl friend. she likes the aussie falcons also but shes on a tight budjet. i was really pleased with the way it turned out. but i have been building models for 30 years, experiance help's. i havent sold any of my models nor do i intend to, god willing. im in the diecast colleting for the cars only. not to make a quick buck. i dont see anything wrong with making a model that looks like a 65e for your own private enjoyment. specially if you truly just love the cars as i do. you are correct brett about the differances between the vermillion fire xy gtho and the 65e. but there was one more you forgot about. the vermillion fire had rear window louvers also. i left them in my girl friends model just so it would be different. im not trying to fool anyone with it. i just like the way it looks with the rest of the moffat cars. someone trying to make a buck would remove them in a heart beat. but to anyone here that really wants a 65e i would try this method first. specially if the model is all your after.:D

[ferrari fan]

How it is that this model is SO expensive ,beats me
There are 6000 of them arround!
Some of the other models do have a LOT smaller issued # and where will they end up?
Only a true collector/enthusiast can tell the difference between the 1969 and the as yet to be released #9 1972 model as they are all orange all have decals on them, and do look very simmilar.

[goblues]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
How it is that this model is SO expensive ,beats me
There are 6000 of them arround!
Some of the other models do have a LOT smaller issued # and where will they end up?
Only a true collector/enthusiast can tell the difference between the 1969 and the as yet to be released #9 1972 model as they are all orange all have decals on them, and do look very simmilar.

There were alledgedly 6000 of them released.

We know at least one has suffered some unfortunate fate, and there are probably quite a few others that have come agutsa, as this car has been around since 1998.

Who knows how many exist as single car collections, collecting dust in some forgotten corner.

And how many have been thrown out by parents etc, not knowing what they are worth, thinking they are just grown out of toys, etc.

And there are all the Moffat collectors that won't give up their car for anything in the world.

So that doesn't leave too many to be made available for sale. While I can't quote exact figures, it wouldn't be anywhere near 6000.

A little while ago, I would not have been able to tell you which Bathurst the 65E belonged to. But I would have been able to tell you if it were a XW (1969) or a XY (1972), and I'd say, Red at that.

But apart from that, there certainly are similarities between 61D, 64E, 65E and 1D. :)

[zeitgeist]

Tony/KRF -

Hey Tony. I hope you know I wasn't having a go at you. You did a fantastic job!

KRF, I knew about the roll cage and CoA. I think Tony swapped interiors for his. I was trying to mention differences that might be nearly impossible to cover up/modify for the casual person.

A missing CoA was a given as we are talking about someone (not Tony) attempting to pass one off as real who could raise the excuse that they "lost" the CoA.

A true CoA-less 65E should still fetch a decent price. Sheesh, the broken one was at half RRP last time I looked.

BC

[ferrari fan]

A line up of all four Moffat XW/Y's is an awsome site and wait, there is more....XY GT HOIII #9 will also be sometime soon + all the XA's and B's , C's ,D and RS500,BMW(already released) and even a good old Holden .... (yet to be released)+ the Mustangs, which I do not have sadly ...All in all a very nice collection can be had just by collecting the Moffat racecars.
I better not post a picture as I will be told of by the usual members;)

[ferrari fan]

Never mind,let's just live dangerous,and here we go.

[ferrari fan]

and again

[ferrari fan]

Talking about records ;How about the #1 Brock XU1 1973 that just achieved over $550 plus post,

[Leigh]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
A missing CoA was a given as we are talking about someone (not Tony) attempting to pass one off as real who could raise the excuse that they "lost" the CoA.

Aggh, but an unscrupulous person may also own a real 65E, and sell the COA and Box with their fake...

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
Aggh, but an unscrupulous person may also own a real 65E, and sell the COA and Box with their fake...

An excellent point, Leigh, but would someone halve the value of a car they currently own to take a chance on getting caught selling a fake? Maybe they wouldn't care because they would never sell it.

Consider the broken 65E currently on Ebay. No mention of a CoA with it. Now here is where the unscupulous person could make it work. Sell off a fake with the CoA for market price and buy a real one with the proceeds. You're out the cost of a VF, which still sucks, but a lot less.

Would someone even think to check over a car if it had the CoA? I only checked my 65E for damage.

I think goblues said if it (the broken 65E) had a CoA, it was "potentially worth heaps". I think he's right.

Man, $101 with a few days to go. The thing is beat to hell. Fascinating.

BC

[296kw]

You may like to keep an eye on trademe.co.nz, they pop up now and again and seem to be priced a lot lower than oz.:)

[biante11500]

no sweat brett, i know you weren't taking a poke at me. i just wanted to make a point and try to help out some of the collectors here. that they can make a 65e that looks as good as the real one. it should satisfy even hard to please collectors. i really like my girl friends alot, i guess you appreciate it more when you make it yourself. Leigh you made a very good point about an unsrupulous person might sell the fake with a cerficate. dam i hadn't thought of that.LOL!! but on the other hand,you would be stuck with and original with no certificate. that would kill the price of it wouldnt it. i saw the junker on ebay yesterday while i was doing a falcon search. its unbeliveable what some people will pay for a junker. it would make a good diorama piece though. if you had it on a lift with some mechanics rebuilding it. :D

[goblues]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
I think goblues said if it (the broken 65E) had a CoA, it was "potentially worth heaps". I think he's right.

Man, $101 with a few days to go. The thing is beat to hell. Fascinating.

BC

I've spoken to the seller and he has advised me that what you get is what's in the photo. i.e. no box, no COA and no brochure.

If someone else has a damaged genuine 65E, then this may allow them to make one good one out of the two.

We'll just have to wait and see who the winning bidder is, and make a note of that. :(

[Leigh]

If you never intended to sell your genuine 65E, would it matter that there was no COA?

[goblues]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
If you never intended to sell your genuine 65E, would it matter that there was no COA?

So........

All those that just want display cars, can sell their COA's, Boxes etc. Nice cash cow!!!

Personally, while I don't intend to sell my collection, other than duplicate cars that I have bought for just that purpose, it's nice to know that my cars are absolutely complete. With Boxes, COA's and Brochures where applicable.

Also, I guess it's easier to take the COA touring, to your mates etc, than take the cars. Makes a nice 'scrap book'. :)

P.S. Anyone got a 1:18 65E box for sale? I'm fair dinkum.

[goblues]

1992 Bathurst Winner Skyline $540.00 plus post. Not sure if that's a record, but it is rather high.

XY historic hit $400 yesterday too. Hasn't quite died just yet, it seems. Another one went for $340 later in the day.

[inter]

this is a new record for a road going cobra falcon (first release ) $300. Ebay item 6935076415.
Way too much.
inter

[Haza]

i think the record goes to the White XY GTHO Twin Mirror 006/900. Sold for something like $2100.

Congrats to the seller. Itl be a pity to see a beauty like that go.

Has there been anything higher then this?

[singer]

Originally posted by Haza
i think the record goes to the White XY GTHO Twin Mirror 006/900. Sold for something like $2100.

Congrats to the seller. Itl be a pity to see a beauty like that go.

Has there been anything higher then this?

$2,175:( Not something that I could afford

[inter]

Originally posted by Haza
i think the record goes to the White XY GTHO Twin Mirror 006/900. Sold for something like $2100.

Has there been anything higher then this?



I meant a record for just that model.
cheer inter

[inter]

Just food for thought.
These 3 following models have recently been released by biante in 1/18 scale and there is a huge difference in $/value and frequency of sales. ( info gained from ebay sales and biante auctions).

Brock/Richards A9x (Nov 04) = 35 sales total $13,388 ave $382

Richards/Coppins ford ( July 04 ) = 10 sales total $1,545 av. $154

Longh/mezera sierra ( May 04) = 46 sales total $6,313 ave $137


I still can not understand the low turn over of the richards/ coppins falcon. I think it is a great model. are they really not selling or are just people hanging on to these?

Also i can not coprehend the high turnovrer of the brock / richards a9x. If you add up the sales and models listed for selling there are nearly 75. Most of the sellers have faily low seller rating on ebay. How did so many models get to non collectors hand ? ( assumption on my part )
cheers inter

[Dingo]

Originally posted by inter
Longh/mezera sierra ( May 04) = 46 sales total $6,313 ave $137
Pretty much since July you could have had this car for $99 at just about any GamesWorld in Melbourne...

Out of interest, do you have the eBay sales figures for the Harvey L34 by any chance?

[inter]

Originally posted by Dingo
[
Out of interest, do you have the eBay sales figures for the Harvey L34 by any chance? [/B]

No, unfortunately i only have sales figures on what i own.
I only have 4 holdens 1:18. Brock/richards a9x, brock original last bathurst ( black commodore), Brocks 2002 targa monaro abd slr mandarin red. Most of my collection are fords.

Inter

[Dingo]

Originally posted by inter
Also i can not coprehend the high turnovrer of the brock / richards a9x. If you add up the sales and models listed for selling there are nearly 75. Most of the sellers have faily low seller rating on ebay. How did so many models get to non collectors hand ? ( assumption on my part )
File this one under "never underestimate the power of the chance to make a quick buck"...

[inter]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by inter
[B]this is a new record for a road going cobra falcon (first release ) $300. Ebay item 6935076415.
Way too much.


This has just been beaten ( item no# 6937145297) $ 325. What has happened to this model?
inter

[inter]

Road cobra option 97 Just sold on ebay for $255 (6945077222) That is the highest i can remember.
inter

[inter]

twin set 1-2 1977 bathurst finish for $550 on ebay.

inter

[wayno]

Originally posted by inter
twin set 1-2 1977 bathurst finish for $550 on ebay.

inter

Funny how these twin sets seem to be very sought after. Makes me think even more a HDT 84 twin set would sell out quickly.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by wayno
Funny how these twin sets seem to be very sought after. Makes me think even more a HDT 84 twin set would sell out quickly.

Considering there was a time when the '77 set really didn't sell well at all. It languished at a number of places. These have really taken off lately.

BC

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by inter
twin set 1-2 1977 bathurst finish for $550 on ebay.

inter

I'm just glad I bought mine when I did , got it 18 mths ago at the Adelaide Toy and Collectable Swapmeet/Fair from a dealer's stall MIMB for $250 , I was rapped with it then but as time has gone on and they are becoming more popular and sought after it's now more of a bonus to have got it at that price .

The plaque is also a very nice addition to the set , the quality is absolutely superb and I'm rather surprised that these haven't gained the popularity they deserve , they really are a first class peice of memorabillia .

[camshaft]

Its amazing how the world turns,as previously stated these XC moffat packs could have been had for a song,now they are demanding very high prices.What are the next ones to suddenly take off,my predictions,Moffat XB 77' ATCC and the Classic 67' XR GT Bathurst winner.What are other peoples thoughts?

[LC Torana]

Have noticed the Moffat 1D getting into the $400+ range on a regular basis lately,
with 2 recent sales getting to $440.00...

Im sure there have been prices higher than this on occasions but it seems to be more regular in
this price range recently....

Inter may know more if this is the norm or has it been rising lately

[inter]

Originally posted by biante4923
Have noticed the Moffat 1D getting into the $400+ range on a regular basis lately,
with 2 recent sales getting to $440.00...

Im sure there have been prices higher than this on occasions but it seems to be more regular in
this price range recently....

Inter may know more if this is the norm or has it been rising lately


biante4923
i have 62 recorded sales since its release in 2003.
A total of $24,698. The highest was August 2003 at $700, the average is $398.08.

in 2003 = 17 sales at an average of $346
in 2004 = 39 sales at an average of $419
in 2005 = 6 sales at an average of $436


inter

[inter]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
Considering there was a time when the '77 set really didn't sell well at all. It languished at a number of places. These have really taken off lately.

BC



You are absolutely correct zeitgeist.

see attatched spreadsheet.

regards inter

[inter]

New record sale for the 1980 rock djr xd falcon $ 355. ebay item no# 6950544085.

inter

[ZORAK]

Originally posted by inter
New record sale for the 1980 rock djr xd falcon $ 355. ebay item no# 6950544085.

inter

One has to wonder... why $355?!?!

$193 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6948211495)

Z?

[inter]

xa red pepper for $160, new record sale ebay no#6951597551.



inter

[ferrari fan]

One thing to ponder.
If nobody wants to be seen paying more for something than was offered before, the whole world would be a very stale place.
Real estate, paintings stamps/coins, SHARES, etc, etc. are items that change in apreciation constantly.
It seems that this is also the case with certain diecast models of the BIANTE/Minichamps range. plus others.
It is an exeptional compliment to this producer to see that a model like the 65E is able to atract $1000 each.
Sad if you want it , sound if you have a spare or 10!

[inter]

Falcon cobra 1/18 option 97 just sold for 268.55 , that is a new record. ebay # 6954565395.

inter

[ZORAK]

I thought I saw one go for $295 a while back.

Have you notice the prices of some models actually dropping of late?

Z!

[inter]

Originally posted by ZORAK
I thought I saw one go for $295 a while back.

Have you notice the prices of some models actually dropping of late?

Z!



Not so much dropping in price but stabilizing ( djr original green tuff falcon, buth federation moffat falcons come to mind)

the sierra's (bond,moffat, brock and longhurst) are not performin well.

the bond sierra's are going under $80


inter

[ferrari fan]

The SIERRA"s might be going cheap here, but in the UK and Euro they do fetch very good $$

[inter]

Slr torana mandarin red for $175 ???????

That is way too high, new record.


inter

[ZORAK]

Got a stut

Got a st

Got a stutt

Can't speak right?

LOL

Z! :D

[inter]

Originally posted by ZORAK
Got a stut

Got a st

Got a stutt

Can't speak right?

LOL

Z! :D


Yea, I can take it.

Not sure what happened there

inter:)

[Nick Short]

Saw Historic black XY at $420 retail, and was told several had sold at that price!

[GSXR1]

I know these (02 Ambrose AU) have been getting up pretty high lately, but this is getting crazy!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6955190228&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

[teambrock50]

Thats just stupid. But if someone wants to pay that good luck to them.

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by teambrock50
Thats just stupid. But if someone wants to pay that good luck to them.

$$$ , Easy come easy go for some people ...

[terrine]

i did a search and the one before sold for $800 on ebay

bit of a sleeper...beauty newk

r/peter

[inter]

Bronze wine xy sold on ebay for $202. That is a new record.

Item # 6963288466.

inter

[ZORAK]

Is $2275 for a Twin Mirror a record?

And on the other end of the scale $127.50 for a Moffat Federation XC?

Z!

[TBVX05]

It might a record on ebay but Ive heard of way bigger prices being paid privately!

[a9x]

Originally posted by TBVX05
It might a record on ebay but Ive heard of way bigger prices being paid privately!
how much did you outlay for your four twin mirrors? or average price range?

[inter]

Here on biante auctions a cobra option 97 went for $275. That is a new record.


inter

[inter]

Just for every body's info of dick Johnson fords 1:18 that have been out for a while.

Green tuff original Xd average price prior to 2005 was $355. average 2005 is $ 446 up 26%.

Xd tru blu bathurst 1981 ave< 2005 $212, ave in 2005 $259 up 22%.

lakeside xc ave <2005 $ 221, ave in 2005 $189 down 14%.

kb/dj bathurst crash green ave <2005 $167, ave 2005 $196 up 17%.

sierra original ave<2005 $390, 2005 ave $421 up 8%.

rock car ave <2005 $155, ave in 2005 $196 up 27%.


fod for thought

[fomoco04]

Do you think the Lakeside is going down because of the new DJ Cobra?

[inter]

Originally posted by fomoco04
Do you think the Lakeside is going down because of the new DJ Cobra?

yes i do. But it will start creeping up again.

Tonight i will do a comparison for moffat cars.
inter

[fomoco04]

Where would we be without you?

[frosty]

Originally posted by fomoco04
Where would we be without you?
So true...

Thanks Inter for your info....
keep collecting it...
it is very useful...

[fomoco04]

I need help (inter maybe?)

I've recently picked up a ULTRA WHITE SINGLE MIRROR 828/900
and was wondering what sort of prices it goes for. I've looked and they don't seem to come up very often

any help much appreciated:)

[inter]

Here are the moffat cars;

1 cobra race car average prior 2005 $319, in 2005 $ 360 up 13%

Brut 33 prior 2005 ave $ 216, in 2005 $243 up up 12.5%

Xd federation prior 2005 ave $159, in 2005 $148 down 6%

Xc federation prior 2005 ave $160, in 2005 $156 down 3%

xb championship prior 2005 $155, in 2005 $183 up 18%

city ford 1975 prior 2005 $146, in 2005 $149 up 2%

Sierra anz prior 2005 $126, in 2005 $116 down 8% ( this one has gone down a whopping 29% from rrp)

First bathurst 1969 Prior 2005 $181, in 2005 $253 up 40% ( best performer)

1D prior 2005 $394, in 2005 $365 down 7.5% ( dont panic 2004 was over inflated)

65d prior to 2005 ave $ 709, in 2005 $ 833 up 17% ( jewel of the crown)

64e prior to 2005 ave $534, in 2005 $566 up 6%




cheers

inter

[hot5]

inter
what is the best performing car of 2005 geez ill have a guess and say the 2002 ambrose

[inter]

Originally posted by hot5
inter
what is the best performing car of 2005 geez ill have a guess and say the 2002 ambrose


I would say you are correct but unfortunately i dont have records of this due to the fact that i dont have one and i mainly collect biantes in 1:18 not cc.
cheers


inter

[inter]

new record
Dick Johnson xd bathurst winning car 1981 for $450 on Biante Auctions.


inter

[ferrari fan]

For those of you who do not have the Moffat XD, get it if you are missing it as it is one of the very best models produced and does show very nicely once taken out of the box!

[inter]

try this out

[Chriso]

I think this might be a new record, #1 moffat cobra $500 passed in on ebay earlier today.

Inter - do the prices on your scan contain postage?....the only reason i ask is i see the lowest paid for XE '84 is $167 which i think might have been me. I bought this last Jan or Feb with a Buy It Now $150 + $17 for postage. I couldn't believe it, the whole week while waiting for it turn up from QLD i kept thinking there must be something wrong with it, but sure enough when it arivied, she was spot on, and still one the best stand outs in my cabinet :)

Now if only i could find a #1 cobra for good price???? Any chance of a #2 cobra Biante? please, please! :)

[inter]

Originally posted by Chriso
I think this might be a new record, #1 moffat cobra $500 passed in on ebay earlier today.

Inter - do the prices on your scan contain postage?....the only reason i ask is i see the lowest paid for XE '84 is $167 which i think might have been me. I bought this last Jan or Feb with a Buy It Now $150 + $17 for postage. I couldn't believe it, the whole week while waiting for it turn up from QLD i kept thinking there must be something wrong with it, but sure enough when it arivied, she was spot on, and still one the best stand outs in my cabinet :)

Now if only i could find a #1 cobra for good price???? Any chance of a #2 cobra Biante? please, please! :)

Christo, that is a good buy.

No they do not include postage, Did you leave feed back to the seller and vice versa. I no feed back is give i do not mark it as sale ( a biT suss).
If you did then i missed it.

$500 for a cobra is a new record.
One sold 4 days ago for $305 AUS plus postage ( total of about $323aus) That is a cheap as i have seen them lately.

inter

[Chriso]

Thanks inter...I didnt think that you would include postage, after all it would be to hard for you to know who's being charged what. It was just i seen that price of $167 and i thought thats spooky thats what i paid. Yeah we both left +feedback for each other, he was a good bloke so there was no worries there.
I was just browsing ebay (as you do) and he had just listed all his Johnson cars (there 7 or 8 of them), all starting with $50 bid or $150 buy it now. My first thought was this guy is mad and then my second thought was this might be a scam and then my third thought was if i sit around thinking about this any longer there all gunna be bloody gone,lol
So i grabed the '84 and then i went to get the '89 Bathurst Winner and be the time i opened the auction page someone had beaten me to it, so i left it at that. Anyway about 2 or 3 hours latter i thought bugger it i'll get the '81 XD but by that time most of them had had bids placed. I watched the '81 pass through for about $250 at the end of the week, lol ;)

[rehau]

This is directed at Inter.

What is the value of moffat federation falcons, both yellow xd and black xc?

What is the slowest selling falcon racing car?

Do you keep records of Holdens?

You must have a lot of time on your hands to keep all these records, can you do insurance values?

Please respond before this evening there are some items on ebay that i am intrested in and they finish tonight.

rehau

[inter]

Originally posted by rehau
This is directed at Inter.

What is the value of moffat federation falcons, both yellow xd and black xc?

What is the slowest selling falcon racing car?

Do you keep records of Holdens?

You must have a lot of time on your hands to keep all these records, can you do insurance values?

Please respond before this evening there are some items on ebay that i am intrested in and they finish tonight.

rehau

Value is black $160 and yellow $157
Not many holdens ( any one special?)
no i cant do insurance values.
good luck with auctions

inter

[rehau]

Originally posted by inter
Value is black $160 and yellow $157
Not many holdens ( any one special?)
no i cant do insurance values.
good luck with auctions

inter

Thanks for that,
i missed out on the acution , the black one went for 4220 ( too high)

rehau

[inter]

New record for 1:18 cobra road option 97 $297 on ebay

inter

[inter]

New record for 65 e moffat $1325, item no# 6985401695.


inter

[Maximus]

That guy must have really wanted it.

[LC Torana]

Is also current leading bidder on a Johnson 81 XD Bathurst winner (currently $417.00)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6985561775

[inter]

New record sale on the biante 1:18 cobra option 97.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6988713689&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT


$325 for item 69887713689


inter

[LC Torana]

This seller and buyer both like setting records

Remember they were both involved in this Moffat 65E ($1325.00) record early this month...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6985401615

[TBVX05]

Talk about setting records, this must be for a minicar set! Has anyone got one of these? :confused:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6989852245

[Bianteking]

Craig Lowndes 1999 HRT Car "Reverse Colour"

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6988901581

[TBVX05]

Now is the time to sell on ebay because its the silly season. I might put some unwanted items myself.

[teambrock50]

Originally posted by TBVX05
Talk about setting records, this must be for a minicar set! Has anyone got one of these? :confused:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6989852245

I like how they dont show or tell you what number it is because i was told biante tracked what number everyone got and if anyone sold them they would be in a bit of trouble

[TBVX05]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6992514792

[brchi17]

Originally posted by teambrock50
I like how they dont show or tell you what number it is because i was told biante tracked what number everyone got and if anyone sold them they would be in a bit of trouble

Ethically maybe, but technically (and legally), once the said item has been given away so to does any right to what can or can not be done with it. Unless a contract was signed by both parties agreeing to certain terms and conditions.

cheers :)

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by TBVX05
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6992514792

That's the most I've ever seen a palais white A9X Go for .... :eek:

[XU-123]

Originally posted by TBVX05
Talk about setting records, this must be for a minicar set! Has anyone got one of these? :confused:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6989852245

wow , i just bought 1 of these sets , but nowhere near that price.

[Robert Murphy]

Does anyone know the average price the above twinsets go for?
Rob

[V8SS]

Weren't they only given to the invited guests of the opening? I didn't think too many of them would be up for sale.

[TBVX05]

When I put this item on the forums it had one bid for $230 which is very high for a minicar set. Now that Ive opened it it has reached a ridiculous $610!!! It makes it worse that the cars are both shockers! Anyway if you must have one and your budget is limitless, then why not! :rolleyes:

Im not complaining! :D






P.S. I wonder if anyone here bought them...

[TBVX05]

Errrrrr...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6992538700

[V8SS]

Originally posted by TBVX05
Errrrrr...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6992538700

Whats with that??????

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by XU-123
wow , i just bought 1 of these sets , but nowhere near that price.

That's the one!!
Was issued to official attendance of the opening.

[TBVX05]

Originally posted by V8SS
Whats with that??????


What do you mean? It got bid up to $95 when there was another two there for $40! :confused:


Definitely a record price which will stand for a long time!

[TBVX05]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6993581514

[LC Torana]

Originally posted by TBVX05
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6993581514

Yes, I noticed this one too, none of the bidders are newbies either...
a lot of money for a 1:64


Here is another one of them at $65.50

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6993000678

[TBVX05]

Heres another record, and theres another one for $550! :confused:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=102237&item=6993517343

[VXfan]

Sorry to sound picky but is there really any difference between this thread and the extreme ebay auctions thread:confused:
Cheers'
Tony.

[TBVX05]

Ditto, get admin to merge them...

[fomoco04]

By far the highest i've seen.http://cgi.ebay.com.au/XY-GTHO-FORD-TRACK-RED_W0QQitemZ6993975401QQcategoryZ27157QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem (http://)

[fomoco04]

Try again
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/XY-GTHO-FORD-TRACK-RED_W0QQitemZ6993975401QQcategoryZ27157QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

[ZORAK]

here (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6993975401) maybe?

[TBVX05]

Haha I dont believe that, you see them on ebay for about 500!


Anyway, how do you make a link shrink to 'here maybe'?

[ZORAK]

Click the http:// button, type the text you want to display (eg: here), enter the URL and okay.

[Hey Charger]

Originally posted by ZORAK
here (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6993975401) maybe?

hhhmmm, when they do appear, ive noticed the prices on the Track Red starting to escalate in Hobby stores so this could be the follow on effect...ps noticed it had no bonnet strap but still has the boot stickers....

[inter]

Moffat 1969 # 61 sold for $345 on ebay auction no# 6965840151. That is the highest so far, the guy that bought it has no stars (newbie)

inter

[fomoco04]

Bronze Wine for $255 highest so far item No 6998639711

I can do a hyperlink? any helpers??

[LC Torana]

Link for the Bronze Wine (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6998639711) above

[singer]

There is a shop round here that will not discount, not one %. The proprietor is sure that all models will rise in value, given time:)

[fomoco04]

Vermillion Fire gone on ebay for $350 Highest i've seen

[ferrari fan]

On one topic members are saying values are down and this is pointing out which ones are setting records.
I am glad that I have em all.
from my trusted shop; Triking
Looks more and more like a share trading issue, flavour of the day, bull run

[rehau]

Inter you have not posted a record sale for a while????????????


no new records?????????

rehau

[Esses]

There is a shop round here that will not discount, not one %. The proprietor is sure that all models will rise in value, given time:)

Is this your "friend" in Fyshwick or the one in Queanbeyan, Ken? If it's Fyshwick she does have some 1/18 V8SC's on sale, plus the odd 1/43. I got my 1/43 Mustang, Capri & Escort there for $20.00 each because there was a nation-wide catalogue sale for that store & she HAD to conform.:D

[inter]

Inter you have not posted a record sale for a while????????????


no new records?????????

rehau





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inter

[rehau]

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inter



Not trying to be a smarty pants, just asking

rehau

[inter]

new record sale on ebay biante legend 1/43 moffat car for $100.99

item no# 7023070958


inter

[Bianteking]

This is the highest I have seen go for.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Marcos-Ambrose-2002-Ford-AU-Falcon-1-of-1000-HTF_W0QQitemZ7025234672


I another ebay newby who has some money to spend.I am glade I got mine for $200.

[inter]

This is the highest I have seen go for.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Marcos-Ambrose-2002-Ford-AU-Falcon-1-of-1000-HTF_W0QQitemZ7025234672


I another ebay newby who has some money to spend.I am glade I got mine for $200.


No , the highest is $1,175. This does not make the top 10

regards inter

[Bianteking]

Like I said it is highest i have seen

[inter]

Like I said it is highest i have seen



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sometimes i wonder why i bother?

[hot5]

hey inter i asked the question about the current price of this car (02 ambrose ) a few weeks ago whats the average this year
thanks in advance

[singer]

?????????????????????????????
sometimes i wonder why i bother?

Inter,

most of us appreciate the time & effort that you put into compiling & distributing the info:)

Cheers

[inter]

hey inter i asked the question about the current price of this car (02 ambrose ) a few weeks ago whats the average this year
thanks in advance

I did anwser this question, see thread "Price check"

regards Inter

[rehau]

hey inter i asked the question about the current price of this car (02 ambrose ) a few weeks ago whats the average this year
thanks in advance

and step to it.

[hot5]

thanks inter your records are invaluable keep up the good work!

[monarocveightz]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Marcos-Ambrose-2002-Ford-AU-Falcon-1-of-1000-HTF_W0QQitemZ7025234672

$900 for that, god thats expensive- do you think Ambroses 2004 car will reach that price

[Tumbo]

the 2002 car has been at a high price for a while now- this is below the highest its reached, go back a couple of pages and see how its developed ;)

[monarocveightz]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Marcos-Ambrose-2002-Ford-AU-Falcon-1-of-1000-HTF_W0QQitemZ7025234672

$900 for that, god thats expensive- do you think Ambroses 2004 car will reach that price

look whats just come up- after the other one has gone over $900 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-2002-MARCUS-AMBROSE-4-PIRTEK-AU-FORD-521-1000_W0QQitemZ7026792104QQcategoryZ29689QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

[inter]

New record twin set sale


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7028671329&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

$622 wow

inter

[brchi17]

Gee I'm hoping my wife doesn't find this thread :eek:

Bronze Wine for $255 highest so far
got one of these....

Vermillion Fire gone on ebay for $350
also got one of these....

biante legend 1/43 moffat car for $100.99
found one of these in the cupboard too.....

New record twin set sale...$600
I know where this one is.....:eek:

[gab73]

2005 Steven Johnson 1:18 westpoint ford 325.05
item no 7037620361

Haven't these gone up in value!

[inter]

2005 Steven Johnson 1:18 westpoint ford 325.05
item no 7037620361

Haven't these gone up in value!


these models have really gone up, not sure why?

inter

[spoonster05]

Only thing I can think of is that the Westpoint connection only lasted the one season, it's not as though the cars did anything really spectacular..

[brchi17]

Only thing I can think of is that the Westpoint connection only lasted the one season, it's not as though the cars did anything really spectacular..

Perhaps it's more about the very limited numbers for one of Australian motorsports most famous racing numbers ???

I know there a quite a lot of collectors out there who would buy it not because it was driven to no success by Steven, but because it's part of the Dick Johnson Racing empire.

[ferrari fan]

Well the end of DJ drivers career is where I stop, The new ones are sadly lacking interest by me.
Dick Johnson his style , and his dry,witty commentary are what atracts me to the models and the man.

[Patterson]

look whats just come up- after the other one has gone over $900 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-2002-MARCUS-AMBROSE-4-PIRTEK-AU-FORD-521-1000_W0QQitemZ7026792104QQcategoryZ29689QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

Thats cheap!!!

So is petrol at $1.30! Unbelieveable. Its all releative.

[inter]

I think this is a new record.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BIANTE-1-18-PETER-BROCK-LJ-TORANA-GTR-XU-1-NO-1_W0QQitemZ7040667039QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27157QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem

[malscar]

and with a damaged box.

[monarocveightz]

Especially when i think the prices aren't as high as they were a few months ago

[LC Torana]

I think this is a new record.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BIANTE-1-18-PETER-BROCK-LJ-TORANA-GTR-XU-1-NO-1_W0QQitemZ7040667039QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27157QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem

That is ridiculous when the prices on this have been stagnant or if anything dropped a little in recent months with the 28C surpassing it more often than not recently…

[inter]

red roo record.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Dick-Johnson-XE-Red-Roo-Bathurst-82_W0QQitemZ7042140080QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27157QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[monarocveightz]

Thats cheap!!!

So is petrol at $1.30! Unbelieveable. Its all releative.

when i originally posted this they wanted $1000 not $700

[biante1948]

red roo record.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Dick-Johnson-XE-Red-Roo-Bathurst-82_W0QQitemZ7042140080QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27157QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Pretty high price considering Gateway Models still has them listed and available on their site for $169.00.

[inter]

new record
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-ALAN-MOFFAT-1980-BATHURST-XD-FORD-FALCON-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ7042123664QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27157 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

inter

[monarocveightz]

new record
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-ALAN-MOFFAT-1980-BATHURST-XD-FORD-FALCON-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ7042123664QQihZ014QQcategoryZ27157 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

inter

does it still count considering it's signed?

it's now not orignal

[inter]

does it still count considering it's signed?

it's now not orignal

i normally dont count these cars, but maybe i should . What do you all think?

inter

[Leigh]

i normally dont count these cars, but maybe i should . What do you all think?

inter
I think they are treated differently i.e. some of us don't like them one iota, others are willing to part with extensive amounts of cash for them...

Essentially I think they will skew your data.

[Tumbo]

Potentially since there are so few models which are signed on the body you could keep them as a separate figure?

[monarocveightz]

i normally dont count these cars, but maybe i should . What do you all think?

inter

maybe you should have a seperate list for signed cars?

[inter]

new record sale 1976 brock slr torana $345
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Biante-Brock-1976-Bathurst-LH-SLR-5000-with-L34_W0QQitemZ220010329258QQihZ012QQcategoryZ27157Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Tumbo]

Seems that Darcy's has been having luck in selling some of their overpriced stock of late.....good on em if they can get the customers I say- though I know some who'd rather the money was going their way ;)

[inter]

Seems that Darcy's has been having luck in selling some of their overpriced stock of late.....good on em if they can get the customers I say- though I know some who'd rather the money was going their way ;)



i do understand what your saying, and i know he is running a business.

but his prices seem to suck newbies in and often these people stop collecting becuase they are buying stuff at inflated priced?

minimises the amount of people into our hobby and this must have an effect on companies like biante,cc,trax.

If there is a higher turnover of stock at lower prices this would keep the industry going and posiibly introduce new model maker and a bigger variety.
I know this will probably stop models ( slow them ) going up and up like the 64,64 moffat cars or the 28c, #1 XU1 torana but who cares,
We are doing this for fun not investment.

My thoughts ?????

[rehau]

i do understand what your saying, and i know he is running a business.

but his prices seem to suck newbies in and often these people stop collecting becuase they are buying stuff at inflated priced?

minimises the amount of people into our hobby and this must have an effect on companies like biante,cc,trax.

If there is a higher turnover of stock at lower prices this would keep the industry going and posiibly introduce new model maker and a bigger variety.
I know this will probably stop models ( slow them ) going up and up like the 64,64 moffat cars or the 28c, #1 XU1 torana but who cares,
We are doing this for fun not investment.

My thoughts ?????


from a person who intently keeps records i find this a ( don't get me wrong) strange comment?
why do you keep records then?

rehau

[castkrazy]

Rehau , I don't think it's strange ;) , it's a part of taking interest in the hobby and not only done for Leigh's personal interest but he shares his findings with everyone here for their benifit also .

I have been collecting for a while and although I have no plans to sell my models I also find it interesting and am always researching or keeping an eye on what models are going for , and not only models I have purchased but any model I find appealing or would like to add to my collection .

I visit Ebay and online shops regularly , not to sell or purchase but out of curiousity mainly just to keep tabs on what the diecast market is doing which I find is part and parcel of being an avid collector and showing a general interest in our hobby. :)

[zeitgeist]

i do understand what your saying, and i know he is running a business.

but his prices seem to suck newbies in and often these people stop collecting becuase they are buying stuff at inflated priced?


Yes, but, my goodness... how much a newbie does one have to be to not even notice other examples going for cheaper ON THE SAME WEBSITE ?!?!?

Where, oh where, are the lazy, cluless people when * I * want to sell something?

I'm keeping an eye out for feedback on this one. (which I know you do as well, Inter) Had I known the fellow's email addy, I would've broken eBay rules and offered him my extra one for $200.

But, like others out here, I don't blame Darcy's. Good on them for getting double market value for the car!

BC

[VXfan]

Where, oh where, are the lazy, cluless people when * I * want to sell something?

BC

I hear u mate!;)
Cheers,
Tony.

[Leigh]

Where, oh where, are the lazy, cluless people when * I * want to sell something?

On one occasion, an auction I had for an Ipod shuffle (the 512 model) finished at $130...retail was $99 and that particular week they were on sale at most stores for $80:eek: I gave that person some money back, but had to keep some to cover the extra ebay fees!

This was a 99c no reserve auction...so I hooked two people!

[castkrazy]

[QUOTE=castkrazy]Rehau , I don't think it's strange ;) , it's a part of taking interest in the hobby and not only done for Leigh's personal interest but he shares his findings with everyone here for their benifit also .

Sorry Inter , brain must have been out of gear :rolleyes: , gave reference to Leigh instead of you , my oppologies mate . :o


Cheers Jim .

[inter]

new record sale ba falcon acid rush $180, these things have been averaging $90????

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Ford-BA-Falcon-XR8-acid-rush-Limited-Edition_W0QQitemZ220011193713QQihZ012QQcategoryZ27 157QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

buyer has only 3 stars and by the name souds like a lady?

probably someone trying to do the right thing for her partner and they got stung like this.
this gives the whole hobby a bad name

[rehau]

new record sale ba falcon acid rush $180, these things have been averaging $90????

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Ford-BA-Falcon-XR8-acid-rush-Limited-Edition_W0QQitemZ220011193713QQihZ012QQcategoryZ27 157QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

buyer has only 3 stars and by the name souds like a lady?

probably someone trying to do the right thing for her partner and they got stung like this.
this gives the whole hobby a bad name



easy ,
just someone trying to make a living?????

[stephenhrt]

Notice the seller is a usual suspect for this type of thing :rolleyes:

[LC Torana]

Notice the seller is a usual suspect for this type of thing :rolleyes:

Surprisingly he has sold a few items at his high prices in the past month

Aug 6 … 1:18 Monaro CV8 Series 2 yellow devil Limited Edition …. $198.00
Aug 5 … 1:18 Bond Jones Sierra RS 500 'Caltex' 1988 Bathurst …. $130.00
Aug 3 … 1:18 Biante Allan Moffat RS 3100 Carpi …. $225.00
Aug 3 … 1:18 Biante Brock 1976 Bathurst LH SLR 5000 with L34 …. $345.00
July 30 .. 1:18 Biante VR Brock/Mezera Bathurst 1996 …. $205.00
July 29 .. 1:43 Biante GTR Skaife/Richards Bathurst 1991 …. $91.00
July 17 .. 1:18 Moffat XC 'Federation' 1979 signed COA …. $200.00

People really need to shop around more

[inter]

New record Falcon Xa yellow road car $203

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-XA-FALCON-GT-HARDTOP-YELLOW-COA_W0QQitemZ140013427435QQihZ004QQcategoryZ27157Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Bianteking]

To Inter,

what is the current average price for the 79 a9x sold on ebay, because I have not seen many sold near $300 and I lot of the people who had them at $300 are struggling to sell them at rrp.

[castkrazy]

To Inter,

what is the current average price for the 79 a9x sold on ebay, because I have not seen many sold near $300 and I lot of the people who had them at $300 are struggling to sell them at rrp.


This is the problem when you do have an item of great demand and it may well have been sold out on site and in most shops , but if a great number have been sold to people who bought multiple purchases purely for profit then the open market is going to then be flooded by those models from these people .

Then of course the price inevitably falls to a slump because with that many on the open market at once and the prices being high people who still want one are going to wait for a better price , and with 11,000 models made that many that are left on the open market may well exceed the demand required from those that failed to originally secure an order therefore in the end the price will settle to a figure much lower than when people panic bought at a higher price when the fear of missing out was high .

[Bianteking]

This is the problem when you do have an item of great demand and it may well have been sold out on site and in most shops , but if a great number have been sold to people who bought multiple purchases purely for profit then the open market is going to then be flooded by those models from these people .

Then of course the price inevitably falls to a slump because with that many on the open market at once and the prices being high people who still want one are going to wait for a better price , and with 11,000 models made that many that are left on the open market may well exceed the demand required from those that failed to originally secure an order therefore in the end the price will settle to a figure much lower than when people panic bought at a higher price when the fear of missing out was high .

I was just wondering I price not a lecture on buying and selling

[biante1948]

To Inter,

what is the current average price for the 79 a9x sold on ebay, because I have not seen many sold near $300 and I lot of the people who had them at $300 are struggling to sell them at rrp.

Exactly. Think you will find that the price was up at first due to fact that a lot of people paniced and were trying to get this model.
So now there is probably a few store around that still have stock for sale and therefore the price will come back to where it should be. The panics over - maybe.

[castkrazy]

I was just wondering I price not a lecture on buying and selling

It wasn't a lecture mate just an explanation to what I thought but you take it how you see fit . :mad:

[Tumbo]

Don't worry CastCrazy; nice explanation there :)

[castkrazy]

Don't worry CastCrazy; nice explanation there :)

Thanks Tumbo .:)

How's this for a nice price for the '79 Brock A9X , My wife and son went to the Auto Salon car show here in Adelaide and they were selling some models there and had one of the Brocky A9X's for $195 but were willing to Knock another $20 off for them making it $175 , what a bargain but the thing is they didn't buy it and didn't tell me till they got home . unbelievable hey! :rolleyes:
I've already got one so I'm not too phased about it but I guess I could have used it as a swap though , oh well hopefully another enthusiust managed to snag it for that price .

[Bianteking]

It wasn't a lecture mate just an explanation to what I thought but you take it how you see fit . :mad:


I am sorry for previous comments, i understand what you said, I was a little hot under the collure because my young nephew thought it was funny and pulled my 1/18 sbr twin set and my 2 1/43 of the shelf which resulted in total right off of the 1/18 cars and little damage to the 1/43 display boxes. so you can see why I was a little pissed.

But anyway like I said I sorry for previoue comments

[castkrazy]

I am sorry for previous comments, i understand what you said, I was a little hot under the collure because my young nephew thought it was funny and pulled my 1/18 sbr twin set and my 2 1/43 of the shelf which resulted in total right off of the 1/18 cars and little damage to the 1/43 display boxes. so you can see why I was a little pissed.

But anyway like I said I sorry for previoue comments

no worries , apology accepted .

Kids will be kids hey! they just don't realise the personal value these treasures have to us guys , they just see them as toys ... unfortunately . :rolleyes:

[Bianteking]

no worries , apology accepted .

Kids will be kids hey! they just don't realise the personal value these treasures have to us guys , they just see them as toys ... unfortunately . :rolleyes:


Yes that is true but he is oldernuff now to look and not touch, and it going to cost my brother a lot of money to have it replaced.

[Tumbo]

OUCH! Sorry to hear that..................kinda reminds me of the photo on the forums a few yrs back of the guy whose shelf collapsed and his cars ended up at the bottom of the stairs :(

[cooper1117]

To Inter,

what is the current average price for the 79 a9x sold on ebay, because I have not seen many sold near $300 and I lot of the people who had them at $300 are struggling to sell them at rrp.

Bianteking,

I have been watching the sales just out of interest and as at 8pm tonight, 12 have been sold on ebay thus far since the release, there are about 29 to be sold inthe next 8 days, and a few were 'passed in' for not reaching the reserve.

Of the 12 sold the average price is $259.25 with an average of $14.50 postage so the total delivered A9X to your door is $273.75.

[rehau]

Bianteking,

I have been watching the sales just out of interest and as at 8pm tonight, 12 have been sold on ebay thus far since the release, there are about 29 to be sold inthe next 8 days, and a few were 'passed in' for not reaching the reserve.

Of the 12 sold the average price is $259.25 with an average of $14.50 postage so the total delivered A9X to your door is $273.75.


you will do inter out of a job??

he has not posted for a while?

[Tumbo]

Inter posted 3 days ago :confused: he's been keeping us all up to date

[sleepy]

i would have to agree with most others it appears that the majority of these 79 a9xs have been snapped up by speculators and seeing as so many were made the price is bound to drop..I didnt even place an order with my retailer and he rung me up and offered me 1 from what i see on ebay the 78 is pulling more money...but in contrast 12 000 28cs were made and they command a fair price... off the topic a bit today i finally got around to reading the last amc and noticed the BIANTE add of wich i can see being a big plus for biante sales and the value of some of the older releases..

[cooper1117]

you will do inter out of a job??

he has not posted for a while?

Only taking interest in the 79 A9X. Do not intend on treading on Inter's toes.

[inter]

To Inter,

what is the current average price for the 79 a9x sold on ebay, because I have not seen many sold near $300 and I lot of the people who had them at $300 are struggling to sell them at rrp.

I only have 28 recorded sales, i will wait until I have 100 before i can make an assesment?

cheers

[zeitgeist]

new record sale 1976 brock slr torana $345
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-18-Biante-Brock-1976-Bathurst-LH-SLR-5000-with-L34_W0QQitemZ220010329258QQihZ012QQcategoryZ27157Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Inter -

This is one auction that really blew me away. Have you noticed that the auction ended 12 days ago and no feedback has been placed by either party?

BC

[VXfan]

What does he mean "comes in the 1974 box"? Brock's '74 Torrie hasn't been made yet:confused:
Cheers,
Tony.

[monarocveightz]

What does he mean "comes in the 1974 box"? Brock's '74 Torrie hasn't been made yet:confused:
Cheers,
Tony.

i don't think mine has anything to do with 1974 on it either strange....

[inter]

Inter -

This is one auction that really blew me away. Have you noticed that the auction ended 12 days ago and no feedback has been placed by either party?

BC

No, not noticed yet, thanks
Darcy models prices seem to be higher than normal on most occasions?