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dwarfs
20-07-2004, 02:20 PM
holden fans have been disapointed over the last few rounds as they havent seen the most talented driver mark skaife on the podium once this year.
holden fans are starting to wounder if mark skaife will win this years championship after disapointing results from every round so far.The chances of mark skaife taking back the championship title from ambrose is getting slimmer and slimmer as more disapointing results appear.
skaife has been spun by over a dozen different driver this year like steve richards , marcos ambrose , russell ingall and much more.there have also been mechanical problems also holding skaife back from the big points.
As you might of saw at the previous round something went wrong with skaifs car sending him off the track and into the sand trap.Will things go up hill for skaife at the next round or will it be more disapoint for skaife and hrt.

Esses
20-07-2004, 05:51 PM
Will Skaife win this year?

No.

:)

Pedro
20-07-2004, 05:59 PM
I am a Skaife fan but he has no chance this year of winning the championship.
Would love to see Steven Richards win the championship.

biante1948
20-07-2004, 06:02 PM
Skaife has had 3-4 years at the top and its good to see a change of leadership. HRT and Skaife will have to pick up their act even to get near the top at the end of the Championship.

From Hero to Zero in 6 rounds. He's making Ambrose, Richards , Bright and the rest look better than they really are. Any wonder HRT have recalled Brockie for Bathurst. He can't do any worse. Wouldn't that be something. Brockie to pass Skaife at the end of Conrod, on the final corner, final lap Bathurst 2004 (mind you, Skaife stuck in the sand trap with a busted Holden). I'd like to see that. Just kidding.

Some 540 odd points behind and in 15th place on the ladder and with his current form and placings from the first 6 rounds it isn't looking good.:D

But I could be wrong.

sarobinson
20-07-2004, 06:08 PM
I agree No!!

Go Murph

mick xu1
20-07-2004, 06:27 PM
I think for this year as far as the Championship is concerned is over, but as far as Sandown and Bathurst with Todd they are as good as chance as any with nothing to lose.

KRAKA05
20-07-2004, 07:03 PM
Watch out at Sandown and Bathurst....I might put some money down.

Kenseth17
20-07-2004, 08:03 PM
I thought you would be asking this question after Round 3 not Round 6.He's been out of it for a while now, especially with the points system the way it is.Too many teams have gone past HRT and now it will be interesting to see if they can catch up after setting the benchmark for the last couple of years.Sandown and Bathurst are not out of the question though.It has not been all 'Bad Luck' for him this year.Skaife has done well in running off the circuit on his own a number of times this year and stuffing up starts, speeding in pits etc and lets not forget his 'incident' with Richards at Wanneroo.Everyone has had a go at everyone this year and you would have to say no one has been unluckier than anyone else.
Of the Holden guys, I would say at the moment Jason Bright would be the main threat to win the championship.His team has good speed and he has more of a racers attitude this year.

wayno
20-07-2004, 11:08 PM
Team owner and driving is too much these days. Mark is unfortunately making mistakes and the title shot has been gone for quite a while now. The Enduro's will be another matter.

69Mach1
20-07-2004, 11:34 PM
At the end of the day it doesn't matter who wins the Touring car championship. It is the Bathurst winners that people remember. That is the highest honour for most V8 drivers, just ask them and they will tell you.

dwarfs
21-07-2004, 03:51 AM
pedro : alot of people would like to see steven richards win this year championshio I AM ON OF THEM.

CHEERS

timbo333
21-07-2004, 08:26 AM
AMBROSE for back to back championship wins!!

Kenseth17
21-07-2004, 08:38 AM
Steven Richards, while consistent, a two time Bathurst Champ and always up the pointy end of the field, is not a racers racer.I think he lacks that killer instinct to win many races.I would not pay my money to watch someone come second all the time.That is why the Ambrose's, Murphy's, Skaife's, Lowdnes's etc will always be, in the long run, more successful.A bit like Bright last year, and I know we are only at the half way mark, the only thing that will keep Richards in the hunt this year, is the point system.

dwarfs
21-07-2004, 11:18 AM
WELL MAYBE STEVEN RICHARDS JUST WANTS TO PLAY THE GAME STRAIGHT BUY NOT SPINNING OTHER PROPLE OR HIM SELF AND CAUSING ACCIDENTS WHICH COULD END IN SOME OF HIS POINTS BEING STRIPED OR EVEN A FINE.

dwarfs
21-07-2004, 03:51 PM
sorry for the last post i made i just found out using capital letters was rude .
sorry guys.

badboyau69
21-07-2004, 08:57 PM
Mark Skaife cannot win the championship but i would like to see Murphy or Steven Richards win it.



Russell

john
21-07-2004, 10:08 PM
Skaife's got as much chance of winning this seasons series as Souths winning the NRL comp, and the Sydney Swans winning the AFL.

wayno
21-07-2004, 10:51 PM
I would love to see Steven Richards win the championship as I feel that he IS a racers racer. The guy has taken the Castrol Commodore back to the front of the field, and I don't think it's all to do with the car.
The guy is one of the best on the brakes I've ever seen in this category. His outbraking of Tander (I think) at Winton last year was a superb, clean pass. And this after Skaife had been stuck behind the Valvoline car for about 20 laps.
I think the guy is a gun!

Gan88
22-07-2004, 08:24 AM
I find it laughable that Skaife can be considered the most "talented" in a field consisting of 10 Bathurst winners and 7 other touring car champs.

stevelb1
22-07-2004, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by wayno
The guy has taken the Castrol Commodore back to the front of the field, and I don't think it's all to do with the car.


The only reason he was at the front on the field and very briefly I might add (4 days) was by default, and your also right its not all to do with the car, having a fellow competitor striped of his points also helps somewhat. :D

I still cant believe little Larry jumping up and down yelling give us the win even before the appeal was hear, did he get his 10 grand back for lodging his appeal over the round win.

wayno
22-07-2004, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by stevelb1
The only reason he was at the front on the field and very briefly I might add (4 days) was by default, and your also right its not all to do with the car, having a fellow competitor striped of his points also helps somewhat. :D


I'm talking about back to the front of the field whilst racing. Sit down and read what's said before you go off with your usual, argumentative ramblings. The Castrol car is now a competitive force and I feel a lot of this is to do with Steven.
I am trying to make what I feel is a valid point but once again you have to try and hi-jack a thread with your innane comments. Grow up!

stevelb1
22-07-2004, 09:29 AM
Wayno,

Take a leaf out of your own book and lighten up, I know what you were on about, have a look at the little smiley on the end of what i wrote, if I meant what I had written it wouldn't be there.

If someone else had written it the same way you would have see the funny side of it, but me I'm only the forum trouble maker.

As for a racers racer you need to look elsewhere, but that just my ill informed opinion.

Kenseth17
22-07-2004, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by dwarfs
WELL MAYBE STEVEN RICHARDS JUST WANTS TO PLAY THE GAME STRAIGHT BUY NOT SPINNING OTHER PROPLE OR HIM SELF AND CAUSING ACCIDENTS WHICH COULD END IN SOME OF HIS POINTS BEING STRIPED OR EVEN A FINE.

Do you remember in NZ when Richards had his 'bump and run' on Skaife almost sending the HRT boss into the sandtrap.It's a small world and whilst he or none of his competitors deliberately try to hit somebody, they have all done it at some stage or another.As they say 'Thats' Racing' and **** is gonna happen.All the guys want to 'play the game straight' as there is no room for error in fines, penalties etc.There is not one unfair driver in the top of the standings.No one would put up with that. :)

dwarfs
22-07-2004, 11:24 AM
the incident in nz was casued by skaife him self .
steven richards had more pace than skaife and he wasnt going to let steven richards through .
he had to get around him one way or another.

Kenseth17
22-07-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by dwarfs
the incident in nz was casued by skaife him self .
steven richards had more pace than skaife and he wasnt going to let steven richards through .
he had to get around him one way or another.

So you think just driving into the back of him is ok?
Well if that's the way you want to see it, that's fine but you must admit when your man is wrong.Just like all your excuses for Skaife in the opening thread.Your going to be disappointed come seasons end when Richards will not be champion.He needs more fire and brimstone and as a Ford man, I have no fear of him.Crikey talking to a lot of Holden guys who are friends of mine and many Holden fans at the Wanneroo round, the general consensus is he lacks balls and having the perfect opportunity to 'give it to Skaife' on the Perth edition of V8 Superstars, he practically said nothing of the incident in Perth.Nice guy maybe but I'd put him third or fourth on the rung come seasons end.
Not much else to say on this one from me.The best answer will be at the end of 2004 when they are crowning the champ.

dwarfs
23-07-2004, 01:38 PM
that was harsh.:D