COA numbers for ultra white twin

[Steedsy71]

Hi all, forgive me if this topic has been done to death before but this is my first time! I am thinking about going after the holy grail, being the 1:18 ultra white twin mirror. I have done some research on this model as I am not wanting to get ripped off by one of those E-bay sharks. I have one question still un-answered. Can anyone please tell me what is going on with the COA numbers for these models? I know that there were 134 made with the two mirrors out of the 900 produced for dealers display. Am I right in assuming there is no logical sequence to these 134 models, as I recently saw one for sale which was COA # 618/900?

[Chriso]

Good Question,

I'm new myself and have thought the same thing.

It would be a bold move, but maybe there glueing on another mirror....just for newbe's like ourselves.

But this just prove's we are smart enough to come here and ask someone. ;-)

[69Mach1]

I have only seen 2 of them in the flesh including the one i owned. The numbers are all under 134. I would be buying between that range if was getting another.

BTW I have seen numbers 1 and 117 .

[admin]

Due to not knowing at the time of release that we had 2 different models in the 900, the certificates are at random through the 900 units.
They were signed by me and inserted into an unopened box, so any one could be a two mirror one.
It is possible to pick a fake fairly easily as there is no indent in the door on the passenger side of the single mirror car. Even if someone stuck a mirror on, it is obvious that it is flush with the panel and not fitted into a recess.
Also the wording on the straps holding the car down is different on this model (and on the Track Red) from all the later XY's which at least lets you know that even the single mirror car is also from this batch of 900.

[Maximus]

Well I have number 415/900 and that is a single mirror.

Admin, What is it supposed to say on the straps???
Doesn't it have to do with capital letters or something???

Cheers

James

[terrine]

Originally posted by Maximus
Well I have number 415/900 and that is a single mirror.

Admin, What is it supposed to say on the straps???
Doesn't it have to do with capital letters or something???

Cheers

James

the print on the straps says "if you can read this, you are one lucky son of a b####"

r/peter

[the_goldie]

Originally posted by terrine
the print on the straps says "if you can read this, you are one lucky son of a b####"

r/peter

Hahahaha I love it Peter! I wouldn't mind a twin mirror for the sake of having a twin mirror but at the prices these babies go for I will pass... It's bad enough hunting down a 65E for the Bathurst Winners collection :(

Good luck with your search Steedsy71 and welcome.

[Steedsy71]

Originally posted by terrine
the print on the straps says "if you can read this, you are one lucky son of a b####"

r/peter


Will look for the special straps Peter !!! Can't believe how much these things go for now days, wish I had of got one last year when they were going for 1400 or so, but I thought that was a rip off.

[Maximus]

Originally posted by Steedsy71
Will look for the special straps Peter !!! Can't believe how much these things go for now days, wish I had of got one last year when they were going for 1400 or so, but I thought that was a rip off.

I haven't seen one around for $1400 for a very long time.

There is the one on ebay for $4000 and I think Darcy Model Cars have one for around $2500 but that is way too much to spend on a model.

You can get a 1:10 Exoto for less than 1/2 that and the detail is amazing.


Here is a pic of the roof strap. Is this what it is supposed to look like.

[ferrari fan]

Be aware that this strap is also on the Gregarian Gold XW!!

[athol]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Be aware that this strap is also on the Gregarian Gold XW!!

Grecian Gold F/F, all, the rear straps are the same, the only exception being the track red which is in upper case and some of the words are different.

Athol.
X
Speedway Racer.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by athol
Grecian Gold F/F, all, the rear straps are the same, the only exception being the track red which is in upper case and some of the words are different.


Which contradicts what admin says in this post:

Originally posted by athol
Also the wording on the straps holding the car down is different on this model (and on the Track Red) from all the later XY's which at least lets you know that even the single mirror car is also from this batch of 900.


So which is right? My x/900 single mirror's rear strap was not in all caps and did not match my Track Red's strap. However, it had the CoA, so, with the knowldege I had, I sold it as a true x/900.

In my limited experience, only the Track Red had all the text in upper-case. Can anyone else check their dealer single mirrors to confirm?

BC

[zeitgeist]

$#%@$^#^ stupid 2-minute editing rule! The second quote is from admin, even though it says athol. Sloppy editing on my part. Sorry.

BC

[terrine]

Originally posted by Maximus
I haven't seen one around for $1400 for a very long time.

There is the one on ebay for $4000 and I think Darcy Model Cars have one for around $2500 but that is way too much to spend on a model.

You can get a 1:10 Exoto for less than 1/2 that and the detail is amazing.


Here is a pic of the roof strap. Is this what it is supposed to look like.

no not quite..thats what it says on the single mirror straps only...please refer to my last post for the twin mirror strap incription

by the way retail on exoto 1:10 is $1495 for GT40 and $1850 for sauber and enzo

r/peter

[athol]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
Which contradicts what admin says in this post:



So which is right? My x/900 single mirror's rear strap was not in all caps and did not match my Track Red's strap. However, it had the CoA, so, with the knowldege I had, I sold it as a true x/900.

In my limited experience, only the Track Red had all the text in upper-case. Can anyone else check their dealer single mirrors to confirm?

BC

The straps on my cars say I am but I better not argue with Admin.

Athol.
X Speedway Racer.

[biante1948]

My COA is 525/900 and signed by Trevor, so it seems there was no order as to how the COA were put in to the box with the model. As Admin says, it was randomly done and I think no one was aware at the time that there were Twin and Single mirrors in this batch of 900. Mind you, I could be wrong!

Also I think my Twin Mirror has lower case lettering on the strap. If this is wrong it could mean that it was displayed by its 1st owner and when he/she sold it they didn't put the right strap back with it. Lets face it who would think the strap was different.

So which is correct???

Higher case letters or lower case letters on the Twin Mirror strap.???

Bugger, now I'm going to have to dig it out and have a really good look. :D

[athol]

The strap lettering on ALL the XY's are the same in lower case, the only exception is the Track red which is in upper case and worded differently.


Athol.
X Speedway Racer.

[ZORAK]

I own 416/900 single mirror dealer model. The biggest issue for me is that I have all of mine on display and when it came to boxing them up when I moved 18 months ago I couldn't tell which box was for the dealer model and which was for the regular white XY!

So if what is said here is correct it should be easy to tell if I have ever go to do it again (hope not for a long time)!

Z!

[singer]

Every now & then, the wife says she'd like to move back to town. Everytime I say no way as we've accumulated to much.

She could go on herown but she says she'd lose to much :D

[Maximus]

Alright, Whoever has X/900 can the please post pics of their cars so we can put this to rest once and for all.

I bought mine from Zeitgeist thinking it was 415/900 and he sold it to me thinking it was aswell.

Now this isn't a problem to me as I have what I believe to be a x/900 car which I paid for.

If people will argue about whether the car is real or not over some stupid straps then I will take the straps off my Track Red & pop them on the White GT, THAT WILL MAKE IT A REAL ONE.

Cheers

[terrine]

Originally posted by Maximus
Alright, Whoever has X/900 can the please post pics of their cars so we can put this to rest once and for all.

I bought mine from Zeitgeist thinking it was 415/900 and he sold it to me thinking it was aswell.

Now this isn't a problem to me as I have what I believe to be a x/900 car which I paid for.

If people will argue about whether the car is real or not over some stupid straps then I will take the straps off my Track Red & pop them on the White GT, THAT WILL MAKE IT A REAL ONE.

Cheers

i too have the red with strap all caps and different phraseology, but my twins all carry the same strap as the 65e and afterwards
same as you and others have....the question should be, does any collector have a /900 with an all cap strap?????

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r/peter

[Leigh]

Don't forget the wheels

Some threads to ponder...

http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4573

http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2894

http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=662

What we know

900 Ultra White cars were rush ordered so that dealers had a display model after the immensely popular Track Red sold out overnight...

These were made from 134 left over Track Reds (now known as Twin Mirrors, distinguishable from the single mirrors by an indent in the door) and 766 65E's (the single mirrors).

There also appears to be a random allotment of Wheels for these cars (some came out with Globes, others with Slotters...)

Due to nobody actually picking up on these anomolies, COA's were jammed into boxes in a random fashion.

...and therefore nobody actually saw what was written on the strap...

So unless somebody can categorically state that they have seen them all, I think Peter's question is the correct one to ask...Has anybody seen or have a x/900 with all caps on the strap?

There is also the case of the track white mix up (Track written on the COA's instead of Ultra)...was this the x/900 or the x/4500 release?

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
...and therefore nobody actually saw what was written on the strap...

So unless somebody can categorically state that they have seen them all, I think Peter's question is the correct one to ask...Has anybody seen or have a x/900 with all caps on the strap?


Interesting! Through all the past talk regarding the random wheels/mirrors/CoAs, it never dawned on me that the straps might be random as well.

The hunt is on!

BC

[Maximus]

Well, until more people say what they have on their x/900 with desciptions and photo evidence, I will believe that mine is ORIGINAL.

Cheers

[ferrari fan]

My,maybe silly Question, is ;
What are we collecting here, straps, cardboard etc or actual Model cars.
You want a 2 mirror white XY GT 1/18 scale diecast model?
What and how the packaging is ,is this important?
Most of us place the packaging in the loft, outta sight.
Maybe I am missing something, as I am not trading in these models. I actualy like and collect them, and to H*** with the rest.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
You want a 2 mirror white XY GT 1/18 scale diecast model?
What and how the packaging is ,is this important?
Most of us place the packaging in the loft, outta sight.
Maybe I am missing something, as I am not trading in these models.

FF -

#1 - Because Admin initially said that ALL dealer models had the uppercase lettering on the rear strap. This could lead one to believe that they either bought or sold (unknowingly) a SINGLE mirror (not 2 mirror) from the x/4500 release. Investigation shows that that might not be the case. Future purchasers will know have that information.

#2 - Because, for some, it's fun to fiddle around in the minutiae of one's hobby and uncover details like this.

BC

[terrine]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
FF -

#1 - Because Admin initially said that ALL dealer models had the uppercase lettering on the rear strap. This could lead one to believe that they either bought or sold (unknowingly) a SINGLE mirror (not 2 mirror) from the x/4500 release. Investigation shows that that might not be the case. Future purchasers will know have that information.

BC

well i dont know when or where this info came from but i have 3 twin mirrors all mint in box and they dont have the track red strap.

one thing i did find though was one of my track reds is more of a dud than i thought because it doesnt have original strapping, but that was to be expected as it was misrepresented in other ways when i bought it on BSS.

r/peter

[Maximus]

Terrine, Wanna swap a single mirror for a twin mirror???