Old racing Commodores are never forgotten

[loste_treasures]

I'd luv to see some of the old racing Commodores produced in 1:18 or 1:43 scale......

Imagine some of the old VC, VH, VK race cars sitting in your display cabinet......

Just a wish.....

[Nick Short]

Gricey's red and blue striped Commodore in ?1980 looked pretty special.....

[Renz Man]

As well as Brock's Commodore's from this era, I really would like to see Grice's 86 'Chickadee' VK Bathurst winner. To me, this just looked smick!

[Oh Five]

The dayglo pink from '84, the '79 A9X, pretty much all of the HDT cars, but unfortunately with no marlboro livery allowed, they will look very ordinary.
At least the aftermarket decal makers will be rubbing their hands!!;)

[v8coupe]

Will never be forgotten once made in diecast, sitting on the shelf or in the cabinet. Will keep the next generation uptodate.

[thekid_600]

I'm actually craving for the VL Brock's last bathurst win in 87. The one he won because of the disqualification of the Texaco Sierras cos of 3mm extra wheel arch....
It's a pretty special car. I reckon it would look good next to the 72 Torana XU1.

[Nick Short]

So they weren't disqualified for illegal fuel then? That's what is suggested on the '86-92 video, but again it's only highlights and doesn't go into detail.

[v8coupe]

Nick Short,

I also heard they were disqualified for illegal fuel, after it tested higher than it was suppost to be.

[drof]

Nick, I know that it might be a long process, but if you go back into the forums you will find all the info about this race and all the details about the disqualifications.

Regards

Dave from Kiwiland!!

[thekid_600]

Nick, if u still have access to the 1996 AMP 1000, watch it. somewhere along the commentary, allan moffat alludes that the teaxo sierras were DQed for 3mm extra wheel archs.
i also have the 1986-92 great race DVD, and the little text message at the end of 1987 race did say something about illegal fuel.
i dont know. id imagine it's more likely be wheel arch. that seems a more "legitimate" mistake than illegal fuel. whoever fuelled the sierras must be pretty stupid not to know it's illegal.

[Graeme]

Hello everyone.

I've been reviewing Bill Tuckey's "bible" on Bathurst 1987.

In the final laps CAMS officials were checking fuel batches and were perplexed to find that the fuel going into the Sierras was correct but the overflow samples were not.

Neil Crompton, as commentator back then, began broadcasting the story before the race was finished ....this probably accounted for all the chanting and booing at the race presentation.

It was five months later on 15 March 1988 when Brock's victory was finally confirmed, however the fuel results had been cleared about five weeks after the race.

The Sierra front wheel arch mouldings were the actual undoing, with FISA having determined they had been altered by a 37mm extension, the effect being to widen and raise the arches in order to accomodate larger tyres on the wheel rims.

The wheel arch decision was made on 13 November 1987, but legal appeals dragged matters on into 1988.

And finally, it was the JPS BMW Team which got the credit/blame for instigating the Texaco Sierra protest.

[drof]

The original protest at Bathurst surrounding the legality of certain parts of the Eggenberger bodywork was lodged by Frank Gardner (JPS BMW), Larry Perkins (Enzed Team Perkins), Fred Gibson (Peter Jackson Nissan Racing) and Allan Grice (Bob Jane T-Marts). Gardner remained as the sole protester after Bathurst and during the hearing. There was seven points of protest:
1. The vertical position of the guard extension was higher than allowed.
2. The rear guard inner wheel arches were modified in relation to the chassis rails.
3. The guard extensions were smoothly blended with a material similar to filler to the guards.
4. The guard extensions were modified.
5. The guard extension material wasn't the original.
6. The contour of the front guard was modified.
7. The construction of the fuel tank was not in accordance with the rules and safety regulations.

Technical Advisor to FISA, Marcel servais, checked all points of protest, and number 1, 4, and 6 were upheld. Eggenberger lodged an appeal, which was held in March 1988. It was turned down and Peter Brock/Peter McLeod/David Parsons were declared winners of Bathurst 1987, while Roberto Ravaglia (BMW M3) was crowned World Touring Champion. Ford retained the Manufacturers Title.

What I want to know is what difference these modifications would have on the overall performance of the car's, in my view, nothing as these were only body modifications not mechanical. On the other hand if you don't abide by the rules and regulations you deserve to be disqualified and labeled Cheats, just ask the Bulldogs!!

Good Reading

Dave from Kiwiland!!

[thekid_600]

interesting..... i didn't know half of that stuff. thanks! :)

anyway, point is, please make the Brock 87 VL. :p

[Nick Short]

Thanks Dave! You're a mine of info. I guess some of the body mods might allow wider wheels or more effective suspension set up - you can be sure they wouldn't have done it if it didn't give them some advantage!