Simon Wills Out!!!!!

[dwarfs]

From www.mnews.com.au

Sadly Simon Wills is now without a drive for 2006...

Tony Longhurst has bought out #44 and will compet full time in the V8SC series running under the TD livery....

How could this happen ???? Simon Wills has much more skill than Longhurst and its really ***** me off...

Longhursts career was over when he left in 2004 i mean he is not competitive anymore and to get a young gun booted out just so Longhurst can circle a few tracks and enjoy life is so unfair....

If they Longhurst was going to buy out one of the licenses why not #45 its not like Davidson was going to be faster than Simon....

To me this is another stuff up by TD ..I really have it in for them now..!!!!


cheers:mad: :(

[Esses]

Live & learn, young fellow. LP once said of Longhurst that he had a PHD in racing, ie: "Parents Have Dough". $ always speak loudly. 'Nuff said?

[Dingo]

Anthony, I think you may find that Longhurst could have bought the L1 licence that Wills will run under, but Wills may be still in the cockpit for the season, and Longhurst racing at the enduros only...it may be a way to No Baloney to get back into team ownership...

Also, Wills' licence is the L1, Davidson is running the L2 and therefore not guaranteed a start at the "away" races...

[wayno]

Money changes everything. I hope Tony doesn't run the whole season as he's obviously not up to the task anymore. There will be more to come on this I feel.

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by wayno
Money changes everything. I hope Tony doesn't run the whole season as he's obviously not up to the task anymore. There will be more to come on this I feel. I just cant see the point of this !! Last year he proved to us he was struggling , he even gave his ride up before the year was done , he said it was to give Davidson some more experience before he started his full time drive in 2006 but i think there was more to it than that...


why come back why !!!

cheers

[Dingo]

Originally posted by dwarfs
I just cant see the point of this !! Last year he proved to us he was struggling , he even gave his ride up before the year was done , he said it was to give Davidson some more experience before he started his full time drive in 2006 but i think there was more to it than that...
Don't forget that Longhurst ran a pretty crappy VX for much of 2004...

...and get your years right, it's 2005 not 2006!!!! That's the second time you've done that...

[wayno]

Didn't he end up in the VX after pranging the brand new VY?

[Esses]

Originally posted by wayno
Didn't he end up in the VX after pranging the brand new VY?

YEP! LP was NOT impressed.:D

[Dingo]

Originally posted by wayno
Didn't he end up in the VX after pranging the brand new VY?
At the Adelaide 500 no less :D

[wayno]

Originally posted by Dingo
At the Adelaide 500 no less :D

Made it through the GP at least! :D

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by Dingo
Don't forget that Longhurst ran a pretty crappy VX for much of 2004...

...and get your years right, it's 2005 not 2006!!!! That's the second time you've done that...

Very true but look in 2003 alot of teams ran on VX's when others were running on VY's etc ( Team Brock , Kelly Racing ) and they still done very well ...Not alot changed to make the VX's un-competitve for 2005...


:eek: im a year ahead of my self


cheers

[awawaw]

i wish people would say someone is past it. they dont understand the the way things work. didnt tony win bathurst a couple of years ago? you cant be competitive without the equipment. and the equipment cost money.

[wayno]

Originally posted by awawaw
i wish people would say someone is past it.

They did! :D Tony has had a lot of chances at the V8 game and is a 50 year old man now. I think there is still a place for him at Bathurst but not in the main game.
I think you could put him in an SBR car and he still wouldn't win.
Oh, hang on, he's already had one!

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by wayno
They did! :D Tony has had a lot of chances at the V8 game and is a 50 year old man now. I think there is still a place for him at Bathurst but not in the main game.
I think you could put him in an SBR car and he still wouldn't win.
Oh, hang on, he's already had one! I would have to agree , Tony Longhurst should only race at the enduros and Simon Wills should pilot his car #44 and then Simon Wills and Tony Longhurst could team up at the enduros...It sounds like the best way to do it...

Also TD have lost thier "DODO" sponsorship so who knows what the cars will look like now.....


cheers

[Leigh]

Originally posted by Dingo

Also, Wills' licence is the L1, Davidson is running the L2 and therefore not guaranteed a start at the "away" races...
Wrong Davidson...

The Davidson at Team Dynamik will run under TD's Level 1.

The Davidson at TPR will run under the Nash L2 in Autobarn colours.

Also, having a L1 or L2 does not decide who goes to the limited grid races. The first 30 positions for these events are the top 30 licenses in last years championship, the final two are wild card...

The TPR Davidson (Nash) entry is a definate starter as it finished inside the top 30 last year.

One of the TD entries finished outside the top 30 so has been relegated to exclusion except by wild card.

The TPR Richards entry (Romano's L2) also finished outside the top 30 last year...

Cheers

[Kiwiracing]

Originally posted by dwarfs


Also TD have lost thier "DODO" sponsorship so who knows what the cars will look like now.....


cheers

Looks like Team Tasman will have the Dodo money, according to the same web site:

http://www.mnews.com.au/

Cheers
Kiwiracing

[Dingo]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
Wrong Davidson...

The Davidson at Team Dynamik will run under TD's Level 1.

The Davidson at TPR will run under the Nash L2 in Autobarn colours.

Also, having a L1 or L2 does not decide who goes to the limited grid races. The first 30 positions for these events are the top 30 licenses in last years championship, the final two are wild card...

The TPR Davidson (Nash) entry is a definate starter as it finished inside the top 30 last year.

One of the TD entries finished outside the top 30 so has been relegated to exclusion except by wild card.

The TPR Richards entry (Romano's L2) also finished outside the top 30 last year...

Cheers
My mistake, I meant "wildcard" spot, nothing to do with the licences :eek:

Then why is Davison (#7) listed as a reserve at the AGP? Shouldn't he be in the field and one of the TD cars not in the field?

[Leigh]

Many reasons come to mind...

AFAIK, the GP is a "by invitation" event, so the same rules don't necessarily apply.

So this could be TPR keeping a car "in reserve" by shuffling the licences (TPR only have one subject to "wildcards", or alternatively (and more likely) TEGA/AVESCO would rather see two car teams attend as this is deemed more professional in the international context that the GP is (I know the TPR Davison entry is part of 3 a car team, but there is not a second Autobarn livery).

I assume that TEGA/AVESCO may take this approach in future rounds as well (i.e. keep the multi car teams in preference to single cars)...but time will tell.

What other driver/car is on reserve (I haven't seen either AA or MSN from last week yet)?

Cheers

[Dingo]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
What other driver/car is on reserve (I haven't seen either AA or MSN from last week yet)?
AFAIK it's Steve Owen (Britek).

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by Kiwiracing
Looks like Team Tasman will have the Dodo money, according to the same web site:

http://www.mnews.com.au/

Cheers
Kiwiracing Yeah just heard about this....TD will be lucky to have any sponsors for 2005...

Well done to Tasman....


Tasman : 1
TD : 0...


cheers:)

[anon]

Well I'm still very confused.

How can you sell half of a L1 franchise?

IF Dynamoc now have $$$$ trouble without a sponsor I dont think it's going to be a great year for Will, he's got more talent than an underfunded car will let him show.

[wayno]

Originally posted by anon
Well I'm still very confused.

How can you sell half of a L1 franchise?



Good point. Unless he's not actually buying the licence, just buying the drive?!? :confused:

[Leigh]

Originally posted by anon
Well I'm still very confused.

How can you sell half of a L1 franchise?

As I've posted before, the franchise system went out the window a few years ago...

The system is now licences. Each holder of a Level 1 franchise was issued two seperate L1 licences. Level 2 franchise owners were issued a single level 2 licence.

So individual L1 licences are fully tradeable...it's just that until now, all sales have been in pairs.

Cheers

[Rob]

Originally posted by Dingo
AFAIK it's Steve Owen (Britek).

It will be Matt White in the Fujitsu Britek entry
for the GP.

[Dingo]

Originally posted by Rob
It will be Matt White in the Fujitsu Britek entry
for the GP.
Rob, AFIAK Steve Owen is the reserve driver for the AGP, Matt White is racing at the AGP, which is what I told Leigh. Or do I have it backwards?

[Rob]

Originally posted by Dingo
Rob, AFIAK Steve Owen is the reserve driver for the AGP, Matt White is racing at the AGP, which is what I told Leigh. Or do I have it backwards?

Don't know about the "Reserves" - who, as I understand it only get a gig if one of the allocated cars drops out - but Matt White is racing at the AGP for Britek under the Ellery Franchise.

[Dingo]

Originally posted by Rob
Don't know about the "Reserves" - who, as I understand it only get a gig if one of the allocated cars drops out - but Matt White is racing at the AGP for Britek under the Ellery Franchise.
Interesting, looks like it's now Owen and Paul Dumbrell who will miss out on the races where only 32 can race...

IIRC the top 30 in the pointscore each season are guaranteed spots for each race in the following season...how are Owen and Dumbrell ever going to get into the top 30 if they race four times less than the other drivers?!?!?

[Leigh]

Where are you getting this info from? (i.e. the drivers missing out? I can't find it anywhere.)

Seeing as Ritter finished last years championship above the lowest regular driver, racing in four less races would be a challenge, but not impossible...

That said, it is the points for the licence, not necessarily the driver, so by using the lowest placed licence at Sandown and Bathurst for your number 1 car should lift it a little...

And its only the first limited grid position races of the championship that are based on last years championship, my understanding is Shanghai and Darwin will revert to current championship position at that point in time...

[Dingo]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
Where are you getting this info from? (i.e. the drivers missing out? I can't find it anywhere.)

Seeing as Ritter finished last years championship above the lowest regular driver, racing in four less races would be a challenge, but not impossible...

That said, it is the points for the licence, not necessarily the driver, so by using the lowest placed licence at Sandown and Bathurst for your number 1 car should lift it a little...

And its only the first limited grid position races of the championship that are based on last years championship, my understanding is Shanghai and Darwin will revert to current championship position at that point in time...

Went straight to the horses mouth...here (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/latestnews/new sdisplay.asp?Ind=M&gid=14812)...

[Leigh]

Well that flies in the face of what was said last year!

Thanks for the link.

[dwarfs]

Missing 3-4 rounds is not going to help PD at all...PD was told by LP that if he dosent deliver strong results this year he is out !!!

Missing at least 3 rounds is not going to help him at all...:(


cheers

[teambrock50]

Really its Larrys fault. He thought he was smart selling his franchise now its come back to haunt him. I bet he would love to buy it back.

[Kiwiracing]

Originally posted by Dingo
Went straight to the horses mouth...here (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/latestnews/new sdisplay.asp?Ind=M&gid=14812)...

Longhurst:
“It’s very much a case of me driving at the grand prix and then it is watching this space,� Longhurst said.

Whats the bet he put's it in the fence!:eek:

Kiwiracing

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by Kiwiracing



Whats the bet he put's it in the fence!:eek:

Kiwiracing
Double that .....:D

cheers