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passenger
29-04-2005, 08:23 PM
I seem to remember a story about having cert # on models a while ago .
Well i picked up a Autoart 1968 daytona yellow Corvette 1/18 convertable the other day , finally taking it out of the box and checking it out underneath there was the cert # stamped on the model , which i thought was a good idea , as these non aussie models dont normally come with a cert .
Being from Autoart i was wondering why we cant get this done on all models . ? ?
sleepy
29-04-2005, 11:11 PM
il second that.. but i can see a problem for biante when it comes to putting the right numbered certificates with the matching model. (as in time consuming)
admin
30-04-2005, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by sleepy
il second that.. but i can see a problem for biante when it comes to putting the right numbered certificates with the matching model. (as in time consuming)
ERR...............change that to almost impossible.
chups
30-04-2005, 07:30 AM
it creates problems when the car is produced and boxed on one side of the world, and the certs are produced on the other, BIante would have to get every model, take it out of the box, check the ltd ed # on the car, match the COA # then re-box the model, it would take about 5 mins per model so relate that to 6000 models, it adds quite a bit of time.
i like the number on the corvette (which i also noticed last week) and would love to see it on our aussie cars, but i dont think it can happen. :(
ratbag-racing
30-04-2005, 04:32 PM
I also think that the # stamped into the underside is a great idea.
Why cant it be done & just the production quantity placed on the cert ?
ie: under the car say #3333 & on the cert just have "production run of 3500" with signiture & description staying the same.
No need to change the way the certs are packed then.
Esses
30-04-2005, 06:06 PM
All of which, of course, makes a total mockery of the "numbered" certificates in the first place. They don't, and CAN'T, have any relationship to the model they're packed with as they only have a 1 in 2000, 3000 etc chance of actually being with the correct model!
I'd go with the stamp on the actual model, with a note on the box or base-plate (many have this already) stating "One of 2000 produced". The number on the underside of the model, 100% accuracy.
athol
30-04-2005, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Steve
All of which, of course, makes a total mockery of the "numbered" certificates in the first place. They don't, and CAN'T, have any relationship to the model they're packed with as they only have a 1 in 2000, 3000 etc chance of actually being with the correct model!
I'd go with the stamp on the actual model, with a note on the box or base-plate (many have this already) stating "One of 2000 produced". The number on the underside of the model, 100% accuracy.
That's right Steve, I have always wondered how many low number Dealer single mirror cert's have been swapped with Dealer twin mirror high number certificates.
Athol.
castkrazy
30-04-2005, 07:22 PM
Theives can currently steal models and if need be because of the fear of being caught can dispose of the COA just in case the number has been documented , and get away with it .
But if the model is stamped and documented then the chance of getting caught is much higher and also makes the system of selling stolen models harder for them to dispose of because the models are more traceable .
Leigh
30-04-2005, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by castkrazy
Theives can currently steal models and if need be because of the fear of being caught can dispose of the COA just in case the number has been documented , and get away with it .
But if the model is stamped and documented then the chance of getting caught is much higher and also makes the system of selling stolen models harder for them to dispose of because the models are more traceable .
When we got done over, they didn't even touch my models...
If they all get stamped on the production line, what happens to the ones that are enivitably damaged during production/transit and scraped? At the moment, most model manufacturers make a few extra just in case, and scrap these if need be...:eek:
If you are that worried, either use the Biante pen, or an engraver to put the number on yourself...
castkrazy
30-04-2005, 10:56 PM
Good points Leigh , I must admit doing the models with stamped numbers would be quite a nightmare to say the least .
Not pleasant to hear you had been robbed but at least none of your collection was touched as that would have been one more heartache to deal with , Being broken into is probably one of peoples most biggest fears and yet the mongrels who do it think nothing of it , or the trauma it causes .
The Biante pen sounds like a good Idea , me using an engraver is probably not the best cause I'd be sure to make a mess of it , My writing with a pen's not all the best so it would be pretty shaky results using an engraver . :D Good suggestions though...;)
Cheers Jim .
rpz00m
01-05-2005, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by castkrazy
Good points Leigh , I must admit doing the models with stamped numbers would be quite a nightmare to say the least .
The Biante pen sounds like a good Idea , ...
Cheers Jim .
Sounds lik a plan Leigh & Jim. I use the Biante pen to make all my 1:19 cars. I write the COA # (0000 of 0000) on the underside of the chassis and under the bonnet. The number is only visible under the magic light. I also record the COA # in an access database. :cool:
castkrazy
01-05-2005, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by rpz00m
Sounds lik a plan Leigh & Jim. I use the Biante pen to make all my 1:19 cars. I write the COA # (0000 of 0000) on the underside of the chassis and under the bonnet. The number is only visible under the magic light. I also record the COA # in an access database. :cool:
I'll have to do that too , It may take quite a while doing them all but at least if the unfortunate happens the mongrels will be easier to catch out and it doesn't visibly mark the models .
Cheers Jim .
jsr555
01-05-2005, 08:26 PM
Hey my Ambrose 2004 BA is signed by Ambrose on the bonnet with the Biante pen.... anyone got 1800 bucks.... trust me!
But seriously, I would prfer the number on the model and not the certificate.
Hey Charger
02-05-2005, 10:04 AM
Actually knowing how many of a particular mini cars are produced rather than being individually numbered, I believe would be a great help
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