Twin Set

[hot5]

has anyone here been luck enough to score the ambrose ingall twin set tried everywhere without luck very very hard to come byjust wanted to know if it is worth the $ to get one off e bay

[fordmad17]

Watch it hit $1000+ on ebay

[Dingo]

I'm picking mine up on Friday and looking forward to it :D

[Road Runner 72]

Originally posted by Dingo
I'm picking mine up on Friday and looking forward to it :D
At least I will be able to see one then:D

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by hot5
has anyone here been luck enough to score the ambrose ingall twin set tried everywhere without luck very very hard to come byjust wanted to know if it is worth the $ to get one off e bay

Hi hot5 , I managed to get one but did have it pre-ordered for quite a while , My retailer said he had a lot of pre-orders that will not be filled so there will be a lot of dissapointed people and I would suspect this would be the trend for most model shops .

I guess for me it was a bonus as I got mine at RRP and due to the fact I also passed on the individual previously released versions , as to whether it will be worth paying what prices Ebay will command I guess will be up to you and the individual who wants one but the quality of the cars and the packaging is top notch .

I couldn't advise you what you should do so I guess it's a matter of Do you really want one and if so how bad to you want it to warrant paying the inflated price that they may fetch , as to whether you may be lucky enough to find a shop with one not spoken for I don't know , but at a guess I would think not but stranger things have happened .
Also it does come in rather a large carton so hence the postage will be pretty high .

Anyhow I do wish you the very best of luck with what you decide to do .. :)



Cheers Jim .

[skaifefan]

Originally posted by fordmad17
Watch it hit $1000+ on ebay
Not bloody likely IMO

[teambrock50]

Originally posted by skaifefan
Not bloody likely IMO

What even more :)

I think i will finish around the $700 mark

[skaifefan]

Originally posted by teambrock50
What even more :)

I think i will finish around the $700 mark
try $300 if that

[stonebrosfan]

You realise their RRP is $350 dont you?

[castkrazy]

Already one on Ebay at $560 with 4 days to go ...
I think teambrock50 is pretty well on the money with $700 , or there abouts . ;)

[wrxwrc]

Just picked mine up this arvo....VERY HAPPY!!
This is a Great Twin Set - Excellent Presentation with engraved edition numbers...
My stockist had over 25 pre-orders and recieved 4 all allocated!
I believe these will be VERY sought after and wouldnt be surprised to see some ridiculous prices reached on Ebay!!
I see ones already upto $560 with 4 days to go - WOW
But YES - excellent item!

[TBVX05]

to me these cars are worth nothing! Thats why I dont buy them! :D :rolleyes:

[biante1948]

If you don't like Ford so be it. And possibly the reason you " don't buy them" is because you can't or could not get your hands on one. No sour grapes please.

I was very surprised when my supplier rang me and told that I had one as they could not guarantee me one earlier on when I asked, picked mine up this arvo and am also very happy with the presentation and for just under $320 was well worth it. Shame so many people will miss out.

If only Biante had gone to this much effort with the Moffat Twin Set .

I will post some pics as soon as the other half does some photo editing, hopefully in a half an hour or so.

[Eliot Meadows]

The 1/18 scale twinset is not on my want list and I'm not going to get one, but I have the 1/43 scale twinset and it looks really good.

[biante1948]

Here is the first Ambrose /Ingall Twin Set.

Wait for admin.

[biante1948]

Another pic of Twin Set Ambrose/Ingall

[biante1948]

This is the base pic of the Ambrose/Ingall Twin Set

[skaifefan]

Originally posted by stonebrosfan
You realise their RRP is $350 dont you?
For the 1:43 set :confused:

[brchi17]

Originally posted by hot5
has anyone here been luck enough to score the ambrose ingall twin set tried everywhere without luck very very hard to come byjust wanted to know if it is worth the $ to get one off e bay

Knowing the way they operate, you'll be able to purchasing both the cars in this set separately & make your own for a dam site less than ebay. This is no different to what they have done with their 1:43 twin sets - all that is different is the box.

cheers. :rolleyes:

[castkrazy]

Just noticed that this set on Ebay has reached $725 still a few days to go too , amazing Hey!

But then look at the price of the 2002 Ambrose , who would ever thought that it would be as popular as it is and command the prices it gets but imo the twin set is far better value for what you get .

[Footy]

Originally posted by skaifefan
For the 1:43 set :confused:
No,they have done a run of 500 in 1:18.:)

[skaifefan]

Originally posted by Footy
No,they have done a run of 500 in 1:18.:)
My question was is it $350 for the 1:43 or the 1:18? i do know they did both sizes

[castkrazy]

RRP was $85 for the 1/43 and $350 for the 1/18 set . some people may get it a little cheaper due to loyaly discounts because of being regular customers to their particular retailer .

[skaifefan]

Thanks for clearing that up, as i dont by dicast fords

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by skaifefan
Thanks for clearing that up, as i dont by dicast fords


You don't know what your missing out on ;) ... and I'm a Holden fan . :D


Cheers Jim .

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by skaifefan
Rather staple my testicles to the table

:eek: .... Damn , now that's devotion .. :D

[teambrock50]

Well i hear there are big problems with the Twin Sets. Lots of sets are getting damaged in transit :D :D

[Gan88]

And why are you so happy about it?

[Dingo]

Hmm...I foresee many people missing out on the twinset now...

[brchi17]

Originally posted by Dingo
Hmm...I foresee many people missing out on the twinset now...

I guess it's a good thing then, that you can purchase the exact cars in it separately & make your own :p !!!

cheers.

[Leigh]

Originally posted by brchi17
I guess it's a good thing then, that you can purchase the exact cars in it separately & make your own :p !!!

cheers.
Isn't there a newspaper shoved under the windscreen wiper on the TRUE twinsets? see here (http://www.classiccarlectables.com.au/):confused:

[brchi17]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
Isn't there a newspaper shoved under the windscreen wiper on the TRUE twinsets? see here (http://www.classiccarlectables.com.au/):confused:

Apparently, but they are lose in the packet for you to stick anywhere later on, so it wouldn't be hard for them to go missing in transit.

cheers.

[Leigh]

Originally posted by brchi17
Apparently, but they are lose in the packet for you to stick anywhere later on, so it wouldn't be hard for them to go missing in transit.

cheers.
At least you can sell them separate, unlike the extra mirror on the Twin Mirror :D:D LMAO

Anybody for a bag of 1:18 newspapers...going for $400 on ebay...

Cheers

[Gan88]

Woo hoo!

Just picked mine up!

Everything was in perfect order.... Mine was #061.

Yeap, there were two mini BackIIBack posters in a plastic bag. I won't be taking them out of the bag just yet. But the whole set, with the round-by-round summary of the two SBR cars' progress throughout the season will form a very nice centrepiece.

My only ***** is that the box wasn't made from the glossy board that the 1:43s came it.

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by fordmad17
Watch it hit $1000+ on ebay


and we thought you were joking , I just saw this on ebay and my jaw nearly hit the floor , unbelievable .... :eek:

$1,025 still with 1 day to go , can't seem to post the link though :confused:

[Poita]

Originally posted by castkrazy
and we thought you were joking , I just saw this on ebay and my jaw nearly hit the floor , unbelievable .... :eek:

$1,025 still with 1 day to go , can't seem to post the link though :confused:

1:18 Twin Set (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6977349999)

A little tip for everyone, you need to be logged into eBay before you copy and paste the links.

Peter

[GSXR1]

Originally posted by castkrazy
$1,025 still with 1 day to go , can't seem to post the link though :confused: Here ya go ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6977349999&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:AU:1

[castkrazy]

Thanks guy's ;), I've never had any problems copy and paste the links before so things must have changed somehow , thanks for the tip Peter I will do that from now on . :)


Cheers Jim .

[TBVX05]

Classic are stupid for producing only 500 of them knowing how popular would be. An absolute minimum of 1000 should have been the go!

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by TBVX05
Classic are stupid for producing only 500 of them knowing how popular would be. An absolute minimum of 1000 should have been the go!

I do agree , the problem is that they flogged the individual releases every chance they got where-as IMO they would have been better cutting the individual numbers and making more twin sets as you said .


Cheers Jim .

[Brutesutes]

Originally posted by TBVX05
Classic are stupid for producing only 500 of them knowing how popular would be. An absolute minimum of 1000 should have been the go! " No" this is how real collecting should be ,limited release, if you want it you order it you buy it and make all these other tossers pay for it :D

[Gan88]

Originally posted by TBVX05
Classic are stupid for producing only 500 of them knowing how popular would be. An absolute minimum of 1000 should have been the go!


Pfft...

500 is plenty.

1) How many out there could actually afford the $300+ price tag?

2) How many would have wanted the Ingall car?

3) How many would have wanted a second Ambrose EC car?

In all my years of collecting, the only car I have not had the opportunity to purchase below, at, or close to the RRP is the 1972 Brock Bathurst winner (and as a result, it is not part of the collection).

And given the number of cars that are/will be popping up on ebay, implies that some people bought it simply to profiteer, artificially boosting demand. This only works as long as some mug is willing to pay too much for it. And it never amazes me that someone always steps up to assume such a role.

[biante1948]

Originally posted by skaifefan
try $300 if that


$1025 on ebay for this Twin Set.

Your guess was a bit off then wasn't it skaifefan?

I Bet the people that didn't want one are pleased they didn't get one . NOT

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by biante1948
$1025 on ebay for this Twin Set.

Your guess was a bit off then wasn't it skaifefan?

I Bet the people that didn't want one are pleased they didn't get one . NOT

Biante1948 ,
In skaifefan's defence , I'm sure at the time he submitted that post he was thinking it was for a 1/43 set but I'm sure a lot of people would have regretted missing out on this release . ;)

By the way , nice pic's of your twin set , I'm sure a lot of people liked to see what they were like . :)


Cheers Jim .

[Road Runner 72]

Originally posted by biante1948
$1025 on ebay for this Twin Set.

Your guess was a bit off then wasn't it skaifefan?

I Bet the people that didn't want one are pleased they didn't get one . NOT

Go have a look at the auction, someting smells fishy to me, as the winning bidders name is a little suss, new user also, and he made only one bid a few days earlier, like I said, I'm not stating a fact, just got a gut feeling is all, what do you think??

Cheers

[Footy]

What do I think?
There was a lot of newbies bidding on it. Now lets see what the additional sets go for...;)

[skaifefan]

Originally posted by castkrazy
Biante1948 ,
In skaifefan's defence , I'm sure at the time he submitted that post he was thinking it was for a 1/43 set but I'm sure a lot of people would have regretted missing out on this release . ;)

By the way , nice pic's of your twin set , I'm sure a lot of people liked to see what they were like . :)


Cheers Jim .
yeah i didnt know it was the 1:18th set, and biante1948 i didint get one and i couldnt care less, over priced and a waste of money if you ask me, like someone else said how many people could afford that price and why would you want to buy the 2004 EC ambrose car if you already had his 2004 car anyway

[fordmad17]

I knew it would easily go over $1000 on e-bay, that is the 1st one. Only being 500 they will be few and far between so the prices will be very high

[Gan88]

Originally posted by skaifefan
over priced and a waste of money if you ask me,

I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. You do get two 1:18 cars in the set, don't forget, as well as the special box, base and posters.

[Dingo]

Originally posted by Gan88
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. You do get two 1:18 cars in the set, don't forget, as well as the special box, base and posters.
Gan88, I wouldn't bother arguing. Obviously there are some who mistake cost for worth...

[NatesV8s]

I agree with Gan88

[HRT 1-2]

Originally posted by Road Runner 72
Go have a look at the auction, someting smells fishy to me, as the winning bidders name is a little suss, new user also, and he made only one bid a few days earlier, like I said, I'm not stating a fact, just got a gut feeling is all, what do you think??

Cheers

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, seller and buyer both newbies and now the seller has another set up less than an hour after the other one finishes?

[Leigh]

Originally posted by HRT 1-2
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, seller and buyer both newbies and now the seller has another set up less than an hour after the other one finishes?
Well (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6978532430):rolleyes:

I like some of the sellers other items...such as **2005**FREE BONUS Marcos Ambrose BA Falcon 1:43 Scale (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6978046069), According to the item description, you get a free 1:43 MA BA Falcon with this one!!! LOL I had to open it to see what you are bidding on!

Cheers

[diecastdude]

Well I am not a dealer and just a humble collector but the way dealers get stiched up for selling rare pieces such as the Classics twin set on ebay I reckon if I was one of these dealers I would be setting up a new ebay I.D to make the sales as well, the new I.D for the winning bidder could be questionable but who knows.

[hobby]

Originally posted by TBVX05
Classic are stupid for producing only 500 of them knowing how popular would be. An absolute minimum of 1000 should have been the go!

Hi again to all ,
at least now Classic's finally have something else in 1/18 scale apart from their Mambo Sandman van that is making an increase in value after initial purchase at R.R.P
good luck to the few that have been lucky enough to receive this 1/18 twin set ,commiserations to the shops and customers that are annoyed with the manufacturer for producing so few and in some cases many valued clients missed out , and have lost their faith in advanced orders of this type from this maker.
I was not at the time in a position to place an advanced order for the 1/18 twin set ,but managed to get it in 1/43 very nice indeed.

for those unsure of how i arrived at how Classic's 1/18 scale models rarely increase in value check out eBay, eg i recently purchased the mighty Norm Beechy Monaro for $195. R.R.P then i saw one on eBay near close off at $153 and was local , so no postage etc for pick up

[Gan88]

Hobby,

I still don't think your argument is valid. How can you come to a conclusion based on one data point? And one that clearly chooses to side step a few Marcos Ambrose cars.

Up here in Brisbane, many dealers had pre-sold their cars well ahead of the actual release. Does this mean that the 2999 other people who have these cars would now consider parting with it for anything less than what they paid (not that you would part with a car like that anyway)?

If the ebay seller you cited was a dealer, then all he'd need to do is sell it for more than $130 (plus listing charges) to make a profit. There's plenty of meat in the retail mark up.

[HRT 1-2]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
Well (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6978532430):rolleyes:

I like some of the sellers other items...such as **2005**FREE BONUS Marcos Ambrose BA Falcon 1:43 Scale (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6978046069), According to the item description, you get a free 1:43 MA BA Falcon with this one!!! LOL I had to open it to see what you are bidding on!

Cheers

I'd say our suspicions were correct, the seller is now no longer a registered user!

[castkrazy]

There's some strange bidding going on with these and some unexplained bid retractions by one individual , some people are doing a bit of game playing I reckon . :confused:

[Max1960]

Originally posted by castkrazy
There's some strange bidding going on with these and some unexplained bid retractions by one individual , some people are doing a bit of game playing I reckon . :confused:


I think the newby who paid over a $1000.00 for the first set to go is playing a bit of a game, he's placed bids on a number of them. There is also one bidder who has the highest bid on about 5 sets at the moment.

Some strange things going on!!!!

I would have to admit if I was a stockist I would probably want to stick them on ebay as well. The mark up on models in general isn't very high, so why not try to cash in a little?
I have a mate who picked on up from his local model shop for $350.00 purely with the intention on flogging it on ebay and making a profit himself. That's got to s**t store owners. I imagine that's what a number of people are doing. I myself wasn't overly impressed with my set. I'm considering listing my set.

[castkrazy]

For those that may be interested I finally took a few shots of my 1/18 & 1/43 twin sets so just check out my webshots album , I hope you enjoy them .


Cheers Jim .

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Gan88
Pfft...

500 is plenty. **Just because you have a set**

1) How many out there could actually afford the $300+ price tag?
** Some people do work hard and do get paid well**

2) How many would have wanted the Ingall car? ** A collector of a certain theme wants the whole lot**

3) How many would have wanted a second Ambrose EC car?** It seems there are a fair few**

In all my years of collecting, the only car I have not had the opportunity to purchase below, at, or close to the RRP is the 1972 Brock Bathurst winner (and as a result, it is not part of the collection). **Well a collection with a gaping hole, how nice

And given the number of cars that are/will be popping up on ebay, implies that some people bought it simply to profiteer, artificially boosting demand. This only works as long as some mug is willing to pay too much for it. And it never amazes me that someone always steps up to assume such a role. ** As a collector one sometimes has to pay market price for the missing item as it does burns one's backside ,not to have it complete.
Call us mugs or whatever, but in my humble oppinion, a collection is not complete till it is all there, if that makes me a mug in your eyes, well so be it, I will have to live with it.

I hope that this sort of buissnes is going to bite CC in the backside, and they will stop this nonsense

[TBVX05]

Quote Gan88

In all my years of collecting, the only car I have not had the opportunity to purchase below, at, or close to the RRP is the 1972 Brock Bathurst winner (and as a result, it is not part of the collection). **Well a collection with a gaping hole, how nice


Well if you can afford all those cars, surely you can pay a bit extra for that one! :rolleyes:

[Footy]

Gan 88,
Unlike you,some of us hav'nt been collecting for years and to get the pieces that I want, I have had to pay more than the rrp,rarely and I mean ,rarely can you source a model cheaper(yes some of the latest releases are exempt)so show your generousity and sell me your 73 or 78 at less than rrp.;) Or better still if you have a ultra white or track red either of the two at cost will do!:D

[VXfan]

If anyone who missed out on this set is still after one,it looks like Gateway still have them and are advertising them at $320.
Try here http://www.gatewaymodels.com.au/category10_14.htm
Be quick though!:)

[Oh Five]

No, they are the 2005 cars, sold ONLY as a set.

[brchi17]

Originally posted by VXfan
If anyone who missed out on this set is still after one,it looks like Gateway still have them and are advertising them at $320.
Try here http://www.gatewaymodels.com.au/category10_14.htm
Be quick though!:)

Interesting to note, that presently at Gateway it is actually cheaper to purchase the two cars in the twin pack (by $4), than to buy them individually.

cheers. :)

[Gan88]

TBVX05,
I have my reasons for not particularly wanting that car (discussed by Torana fans in other threads). I mean, if one does come at a sensible price, I will buy it, but there are far better cars coming out that I can acquire at a better price at the moment.

Footy,
Your collection is not my responsibility. I don't have the red and white XYs and nor do I see need to have them. They were borderline at $120 and are most definitely not worth what they go for now. I have been collecting for about 5 years and not once have I missed out on a car that I have wanted- they literally make thousands of these things so I'll never know what a lot of the whinging is directed at.

Bert,
One car does not constitute a "gaping hole".

[ferrari fan]

Gan,
I resectfully disagree.
In a Brock collection, not to have the 1972 Bathurst winner would be very irritating to me.
Same with the 65E car in the Moffat/bathurst winners collection.
I did not have it and I did fork out $500 (when that was the value) as I could not bear it any longer.
But.. that is just me a silly old collector of toycars.
And have been like that for a Veryyyy long time.

[VXfan]

Agree with u FF,I am still to get the 28C and it is annoying as it is the quintissential car to have being his first win at the mountain.I keep hoping I will find one cheap but in the end I can see myself getting one for $400 +

[Gan88]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Gan,
I resectfully disagree.
In a Brock collection, not to have the 1972 Bathurst winner would be very irritating to me..

Fair enough mate...

[zeitgeist]

One thing I haven't figured out. Maybe it has been discussed, but I cannot find it.

If I were to pull one of the cars from the twin set and replace it with one of the single offerings (stock numbers 18175/18176), would anyone know the difference?

If not, are people really paying mad money for an etched bottom, a spiffy box and a few sundry items? The $1025 eBay auction is suspect, at best, and I cannot find another sale.

BC

[Dingo]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
One thing I haven't figured out. Maybe it has been discussed, but I cannot find it.

If I were to pull one of the cars from the twin set and replace it with one of the single offerings (stock numbers 18175/18176), would anyone know the difference?

If not, are people really paying mad money for an etched bottom, a spiffy box and a few sundry items? The $1025 eBay auction is suspect, at best, and I cannot find another sale.
AFAIC Brett the $1025 sale is positively tuna casserole.

I've got all four cars (regular release and twin set), and there's no difference between any of them. Effectively yes, people are forking over stupid cash for an etched base, spiffy bottom, and (in many cases) broken boxes...

[HRT 1-2]

Originally posted by zeitgeist

The $1025 eBay auction is suspect, at best, and I cannot find another sale.

BC

There were some others on there, the highest I'd seen was around $800 with another couple just below. The $1025 would have been a dunga, the seller was deregistered shortly after!

[Footy]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gan88
[B]

Footy,
Your collection is not my responsibility. I don't have the red and white XYs and nor do I see need to have them. They were borderline at $120 and are most definitely not worth what they go for now. I have been collecting for about 5 years and not once have I missed out on a car that I have wanted- they literally make thousands of these things so I'll never know what a lot of the whinging is directed at. [QUOTE]
Gan
Never suggested that my collection was anyone elses responsibility,what I did say was that not everyone has had the opportunity to to get the cars that they wanted.So you do end up paying more for the model that you missed.
As for the XYs I was joking but I do find it funny that you say that they are'nt worth what they are now,try telling a stamp collecter that his first editions are not worth it,if somebody wants something and is prepared to pay for it ...who really gives a ****??

[Gan88]

Footy,

What are you basing your assumption on that people cannot acquire a "wanted" car? Australia is a tiny market for 1:18 cars and they frequently get saturated with all sorts of releases. With most releases, it is as simple as getting a pre-order in with one's dealer.


Also, the price thing is very simple for me. I tend to limit my purchases to models that are stunning and realistic to look at. Models that won't need to be updated in the future. A first edition stamp is unique and irreplaceable. A dodgily made diecast car can be remodeled. And this has happened many times already. This has it's good points- the lower end of the market is catered for, but ultimately, a classy version needs to be made also.

[Footy]

What are you basing your assumption on that people cannot acquire a "wanted" car?
People can acquire any car they want,
yes put a preorder in for the next release, Buy the model overseas and pay that little bit more in US dollars and postage,but it's a tad harder to get one of the earlier models:eg Moffats/Twinmirror or even CCs Mambo Van at RRP .And if you want it enough whether its deemed a good representation of that model or not you will ultimately pay the market price.;)

[Leigh]

Originally posted by teambrock50
Well i hear there are big problems with the Twin Sets. Lots of sets are getting damaged in transit :D :D
For those that have obtained damaged versions of this model, Classics are now (finally) offering a fix...

see here (http://216.127.76.111/~ccforum.net/viewtopic.php? t=2875)

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
For those that have obtained damaged versions of this model, Classics are now (finally) offering a fix...

see here (http://216.127.76.111/~ccforum.net/viewtopic.php? t=2875)


Finally some good news for all those concerned , it just goes to show " eventually the squeaky wheel gets the oil " even if it does take a little while . :D

[Brutesutes]

Originally posted by skaifefan
yeah i didnt know it was the 1:18th set, and biante1948 i didint get one and i couldnt care less, over priced and a waste of money if you ask me, like someone else said how many people could afford that price and why would you want to buy the 2004 EC ambrose car if you already had his 2004 car anyway I think this set was cheaper than the moffat twin set when it first came out and that set is worth " F all " GO FIGURE:rolleyes:

[Gan88]

hrtman2,

The two sets are apples and oranges really...

The Moffat set has 7712 units made. Pretty ambitious given that the usual releases of 6000 don't sell out. Thank God the Capri was limited to 3000.