XA GT's

[biante1762]

I see that Moffat's phase 4 is up on the website. I bet that will sell out in double quick time. Also another XA GT (4 door) is on there too, now there is a wild voilet and a yellow glow underway. Looks good. Can't imagine that the green phase 4 road car is far away.

[VXfan]

Woohoo! Phase 4 GTHO!This will be the ultimate server meltdown right?
My mate who owns a Wild Violet 4 door XA Gt will be very happy that he will finally be able to get a model of it too.
Great news Biante. :)

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by biante1762
I see that Moffat's phase 4 is up on the website. I bet that will sell out in double quick time. Also another XA GT (4 door) is on there too, now there is a wild voilet and a yellow glow underway. Looks good. Can't imagine that the green phase 4 road car is far away.

oh yes , Good one Biante . Another model added to the watchlist ..:D

[BILLFORD1]

Just printed out an updated copy of my Watchlist, 37 not counting Issue 8 of DDU Magazine !! I need a bigger house !! :D

[VXfan]

Originally posted by BILLFORD1
Just printed out an updated copy of my Watchlist, 37 not counting Issue 8 of DDU Magazine !! I need a bigger house !! :D
Just counted mine......99 :eek:
A lot of them are 1:64 scale but that doesnt make me feel a lot better.oops

[BILLFORD1]

Only 8 of mine are 1/64, so back to looking at just moving this wall here out a bit !! :)

[biante1762]

another XA GT 4 door added - WALNUT GLOW METALLIC!

[fomoco04]

Whats the chances of everything else being put on hold till this ones finished? It'll have to be one of the most anticipated releases in a long while.

This is probably a dumb question but will it be signed by Moff seing as he never drove it?

[zigi08]

:D nothing else to say except grin!!!

[Nick Short]

....and drool copiously! I'm very excited, and as a Pom that doesn't happen very often.

[Nick Short]

As for the Calypso Green Phase 4 road car, it should be possible to model it even if the owner doesn't "give permission". After all, Biante didn't have to ask every owner of, say, the Walkinshaw VL if they objected to a model being made, and it should be the same even though only one Phase 4 road car was built. The car is historical fact, produced by Ford, and therefore in the public doman even if it's hidden away by the current owner. If the green car isn't possible for some arcane legal reason, I'd like to see Paul Carthew's "plain body" red one made.

[SVO351]

Originally posted by Nick Short
I'd like to see Paul Carthew's "plain body" red one made.

Is that the bathurst made phase 4 car that u a referring to?
doesnt some guy in queensland own that bathurst car.

[terrine]

Originally posted by SVO351
Is that the bathurst made phase 4 car that u a referring to?
doesnt some guy in queensland own that bathurst car.

click here to go to david bowdens site...phase 4 moff (http://www.fouronthefloor.com.au/garage/phase4.ht ml)

r/peter

[Nick Short]

Yes, arguments over which car it is aside (Carthew says his is the Moffat car and Bowden says his is, and Carthew's was an incomplete spare), the Carthew car is one of the 3 cars intended for competition. Bowden's has been restored with decals added (although I read that it is suggested that the car never got as far as having them back then) and Carthew's remains in plain body Brambles Red. As I collect both race cars that I like the livery of (and Bowden's car fits that), plus street versions and plain body versions of race cars, I would love a plain body Phase 4. Otherwise I may have to buy 2 and get the acetone out......

So very excited about the XAs, and if the Wild Violet 4 door sells well maybe we'll see a 2 door. And one day.........an RPO83 with all the spoilers......

[Graeme]

From what I've read, David Bowden is the only person who has commented in print stories that his car had signwriting when delivered to first owner, Keith Goodall. Whether or not true, there has been no photo evidence forthcoming to substantiate this.

AMC published a grainy photo of John Wynne testing the car at Calder in 1972, with no apparent signwriting.

Perhaps Keith Goodall or his brother, who collected the car from FSV, can shed some light on this matter.

The three production line Brambles Red XA GTs were in the process of being transformed into racing touring cars built to comply with prevailing Series Production rules. The cars were based on the specs proposed for the forthcoming XA GTHO Phase IV road car. These three cars were not fully completed, although one was being track tested, when the project was suddenly cancelled. Only one GTHO road car, in Calypso Green, had been completed as a pilot build car when the whole XA GTHO program died. Without the minimum 200 road cars built, the three race cars were suddenly rendered obsolete.

[baylissfan]

The Carthew car resides in Sydney and has been at the All Ford Day for the past few years. He puts the removable decals on this car. He is a nice bloke and I managed to have a chat to him last year about the car and the difference between driving the Phase 4 and the Phase 3.

This car does get driven on the street as I have seen it getting around from time to time.

The production phase 4 also resides somewhere in Sydney and IIRC was calipso green, white interior, sunroof, and power windows. It did not comes with the roll cage and locker diff as Bowdens did.

Nick I agree I would love to see the Calipso green car built.

I guess all 3 Phase 4's would be a big ask in model form.

[VXfan]

I didn't even realise that the 3rd one wasnt Brambles Red!
Well,it's true,u do learn something every day:)
Make all 3 I say!!

[VXfan]

Just re-read the previous posts and realise I'm talking crap as the 'green' car is the road version,not 1 of the 3 'race' versions made.
Pays to read posts properly:o

[ferrari fan]

What code designation is correct for the 1973 XA GT Bathurst winner?
To me this car was also engineered especialy for Bathurst and did win.
The "home" build 1973 Goss polesiter XA GT is another one in Question as it did win in 1974!
Taxi's seam to have a realistic need for 4 doors, but not racecars one would think ;)

[Graeme]

Ferrari Fan,

Because of the rule changes that came into effect in 1973, the teams were allowed to make many more modifications than previously allowed on production touring cars. The cars raced by Moffat and Goss in 1973 were based on the regular XA Falcon GT Hardtop, but with many non-standard variations.

The idea was to avoid another 'supercar scare' and allow more freedoms so that special production cars, like the GTHO, were no longer necessary. That strategy went out the window when Holden released the L34 Option LH Torana SLR/5000 in mid/late 1974.

[ferrari fan]

Graeme, are you accusing H,..H, ---Hol,.......(Take another deep breath) Holdon, to have played dirty?? Nahh Never, they would not have brought out the L34/ A9X purely to win Batto's race, Nahh mate yr wrong, surely Yr must. As that issnt Cricket yerrrr know.

[biante11500]

im still wishing there would be a 1/18 xa hard top in wild purple released!
also waiting on the 1/43 xa hard tops,sedans & the a9x toranas!

[Nick Short]

Patience is all that's required! I'm so certain there will be a Wild Violet 2 door I will eat my hat (or any hat of your choice) if there isn't. I predict that it will be on Globes, with red line tyres, and maybe a rear spoiler.....

[biante11500]

purple,with globes & a rear spoiler that would be heaven!!!:D

[Nick Short]

T'would be perfection! But I worry that it will be like the others, and on slots with no spoiler. The variation on a theme would be very welcome!

[brchi17]

So this phase 4, will it become the new twin mirror in terms of exclusivity ???

I just hope they make enought of them :) !!!

cheers.

[ferrari fan]

How, as a model, will it be different to a "normal" XA GT 4 door?
The only thing I can think of would be the rollcage and the decals.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

[group C]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
How, as a model, will it be different to a "normal" XA GT 4 door?
The only thing I can think of would be the rollcage and the decals.
Please correct me if I am wrong.


I don't think there will be much difference externally FF,
But did'nt the race preped car have a rear panhard rod fitted?
This is the only change visually i can think of(as well as what you already said).
Regardless i will be looking foward to the release.
I wonder if they are going to try and correct the grill on them as in my opinion the original molds the front did'nt look right(i will stand corrected it's not a Bi**h just an observation) :)

[Graeme]

Other detail differences not already mentioned that could appear on a model, as per the Brambles Red FSV originals, include :

'Globe' alloy road wheels.
Deleted wheel arch mouldings.
Low restriction air cleaner, similar to Phase II GTHO.
Phase III type exhaust headers and side exit exhaust system.
Phase IV winged oil sump.
Custom 36 gallon fuel tank.
Onboard fire extinguisher system.
Driver's harness-style seatbelts.

[toad]

Originally posted by group C

I wonder if they are going to try and correct the grill on them as in my opinion the original molds the front did'nt look right(i will stand corrected it's not a Bi**h just an observation) :)

I agree with you here. Also the GT badge on my 73 Moffat XA is high on the grill whereas the real car has it low down on the grill.

Minor points tho

[Nick Short]

This model will be one of the most sought-after Fords I reckon! I'm very excited, and with the crisp modelling of the 2 door already done it will look fantastic. Whether collectors grumble there is much external visual difference from a standard XA GT or not, this represents a very special car and will take centre stage in my collection. After all, Biante made the Option 97 Cobra when they'd already made the Option 96, but both cars are significantly different in intent and meaning, even though it was "just" a bonnet scoop and upholstery that looked different at first glance. Hence my faint whingeing about an RPO83 - even though it will look much like a 2 door GT with spoilers and Globes it's a significant car in Ford Australia's competition history and deserves to be made (with the few "hidden" differences also modelled). As for the Phase 4, a "plain body" red version would be simple to make, as it would have the same base colour - it would just not need to be passed through the tampo process.

[BILLFORD1]

Originally posted by toad
I agree with you here. Also the GT badge on my 73 Moffat XA is high on the grill whereas the real car has it low down on the grill.

Minor points tho In Biantes defence I have to disagree......All of my ref. photos indicate that the GT351 badge was low on the left during the ATCC season but prior to Bathurst was removed & replaced high on the left. So the model is actually correct. :)

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Nick Short
This model will be one of the most sought-after Fords I reckon! I'm very excited, and with the crisp modelling of the 2 door already done it will look fantastic. Whether collectors grumble there is much external visual difference from a standard XA GT or not, this represents a very special car and will take centre stage in my collection. After all, Biante made the Option 97 Cobra when they'd already made the Option 96, but both cars are significantly different in intent and meaning, even though it was "just" a bonnet scoop and upholstery that looked different at first glance. Hence my faint whingeing about an RPO83 - even though it will look much like a 2 door GT with spoilers and Globes it's a significant car in Ford Australia's competition history and deserves to be made (with the few "hidden" differences also modelled). As for the Phase 4, a "plain body" red version would be simple to make, as it would have the same base colour - it would just not need to be passed through the tampo process.

I do not grumble, just asked the Q.
And on the GT badge on the 1973 winner, this has already been discussed and explained how it came to be where is.
If it would have been in any different place it would not be correct.
A Ph4 with the tampo printing of A. Moffat on it will be VERY welcome in my little collection and will go nice next to the XW/XY machines.

[toad]

Originally posted by BILLFORD1
In Biantes defence I have to disagree......All of my ref. photos indicate that the GT351 badge was low on the left during the ATCC season but prior to Bathurst was removed & replaced high on the left. So the model is actually correct. :)

ok..I have only seen front on pics of the car in ATCC so stand corrected.

[BILLFORD1]

No probs toad. I wasn't being picky. Just that I did originally notice it & investigated accordingly to find that it was in a different place for Bathurst than for the ATCC rounds. Do you get copies of "Aust Muscle Car" magazine ?? A couple of good colour photos during HF 1000 in Issue #20. (Also shows the front lower tray air intake fitted for the oil coolers). :)

[toad]

Originally posted by BILLFORD1
No probs toad. I wasn't being picky. Just that I did originally notice it & investigated accordingly to find that it was in a different place for Bathurst than for the ATCC rounds. Do you get copies of "Aust Muscle Car" magazine ?? A couple of good colour photos during HF 1000 in Issue #20. (Also shows the front lower tray air intake fitted for the oil coolers). :)

Yes I do. Will check it out. Thanks.