Gibson Motorsport/Winfield GT-R #2 cars

[Andrew]

Hello admin, I was wondering whether, with the upcoming release of the '91 Bathurst Winning GT-R, you have considered producing in extremely limited numbers, the sister cars for both the '91 and '92 Bathurst winning GT-R's? I was pondering my '92 winner and thought that the #2 car of Ollofsson and Crompton would make a great set when placed alongside the Skaife/Richards car. The decals would need a number 2 rather than 1, and a change of the driver's names and national flags from the previously released car. Is this a possibility? And presuming that, as it is not a Bathurst Winner, the demand will not be as strong, an extremely limited run of approx 1000 would probably cover it. It would make a welcome addition to collectors such as myself, and surely wouldn't entail too much extra tooling (assuming that the old decal sets are still available from the '92 car). Is this a possibility? Is there any capacity to do this for the '91 car? I thought I'd get my two-bob in now while I can before the Skyline moulds/production is ceased by Biante for good.
Is there support from anyone else, or am I blazing my own trail here?

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[VRSS]

I think I prefer to see the Nissan with the wheel hanging off after the hit ....LOL

[Andrew]

It would be historically accurate, but it would also still be on the top step of the podium! :D

So I take it that a #2 team car would not be supported in any way (because it's a Nissan and not a Ford or Holden)?

[GTSCoup]

Originally posted by Andrew
It would be historically accurate, but it would also still be on the top step of the podium! :D

So I take it that a #2 team car would not be supported in any way (because it's a Nissan and not a Ford or Holden)?

I don't think it is a matter of no interest due to it not being a Ford or Holden. I think people aren't interested because it the #2 car didn't win and the drivers aren't as popular as Skaife and Richards. As you said yourself, just change the names and the number and it is the second car. People already have the '92 winner and probably wouldn't want the other car as it doesn't have any historical significance.

But, they would probably sell well to people who seem to collect low production numbers, not models.

[Andrew]

GTS Coup, I see your point. With the cost of the cars being rather expensive (when you try to commit to buying as many as you can), 'doubling up' as this might be seen, on a car, may be viewed as unnecessary by alot of people. And if there is not a major base of support for such an endeavour, it could be financial suicide to tool and produce a car that nobody wants (except for hardcore collectors of GT-R's). I do see that. But the '92 winner didn't sell in huge numbers to start with - my local shop took some time to shift his stock - before the GT-R really came into its own, and I regarded it then as a sleeper. But there is the issue that is is a Bathurst winner, whereas a #2 car would not be. That is the crucial point. And not having the same history as the #1 car, probably would not sell.

In terms of low numbers though, I thought the Sting Red VT Clubsport R8 was an interesting example of a model that initially didn't seem popular until people saw there were only 1800 produced, after which demand went through the roof. Using that as a precedent, surely there would be enough of a demand to produce approx. 1000 #2 GT-R's - even if it was largely collectors who collect low production numbers, not models, as you said? I would certainly be happy if they were produced - whether they were mostly snapped up by those sort of people or not.

Admin, could you give me a sign please?

Even just a "Yes, that's a great idea. We'll look into it", or a "No, can't be done"?

[Dazz]

I personally think that there would be more demand for the 1990 GT-R even though it didn;t win, rather than a double up of either the '91 or '92 car.

I would much rather have the three year models together on the shelf than have two which look the same.

Did anyone actually answer if the next GT-R is a new mould or the same as the 1992 car we already have?

[Andrew]

That's a good idea Dazz - I didn't even consider the 1990 car, making a set of three.... Doh!

I don't know whether the Kyosho moulds will be retained - I sincerely hope not, but fear it will be the case. I will purchase it no matter what the mould is though.

[Graeme]

Andrew is such an excitable fellow when it comes to the Nissan GTR, so I'm surprised he hasn't mentioned the forgotten GTR of Mark Gibbs (and Rowan Onslow at Bathurst), dressed in it's blood red GIO colours.

If Biante were to do further GTRs beyond the Bathurst winners, I would suggest that the 1990 factory car and Gibbs' 1992 car would be likely candidates. ( Yes, I know that Gibbs' car was built by Gibson Motorsport, so I'll concede it as a semi-works car ! )

[Andrew]

Thanks Graeme - excitable is better than being called something else!!:p The way I figure it, someone has to like the GT-R's...

I hadn't considered Gibbs' GIO GT-R at all. Didn't he taste success at the 500 enduro before the 1992 Bathurst? I can't imagine it being a big seller though, which would virtually rule any production out immediately. I like the idea all the same...

GT-R's and Sierra's - very cool and fast cars.