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adhowie
22-11-2005, 05:22 AM
hi does anyone have a picture of the brock moffat bathurst commodore that allan put into the wall at the top of the mountain in 1985 or 6 (cant remember)?
MarkHM
22-11-2005, 05:33 AM
1986 was the infamous year. Oxton was the co-driver in '85. I don't have a scanner at the moment and all my earlier photos haven't been digitised yet. Have you tried the web?
adhowie
22-11-2005, 05:41 AM
yes but do you have any suggestions
MarkHM
22-11-2005, 06:09 AM
do you want it straight or bent?
adhowie
22-11-2005, 07:28 AM
am after an angle that shows the signage on the front indicators
MarkHM
22-11-2005, 08:36 AM
Send me your e-mail address and I'll send a file to you.
Leigh
22-11-2005, 08:39 AM
Try Autopics (http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/item-949public.html?cache=no). Another (http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/item-3156public.html?cache=no), one more (http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/item-3155public.html?cache=no), and the other team car (http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/item-4901public.html?cache=no)

Cheers
Rob
22-11-2005, 10:22 AM
I know the guy who took the photos of that Moffat crash.
I have a copy. There was nine in the sequence, starting
just as the car has the rear right wheel on the dirt and
ending with Moffat out of the very crunched car just on
the entry to the esses.
clubbie
22-11-2005, 12:06 PM
Then hid hid behind the wall on the outside of the track beacuse the fans gave him a real rev up.
MarkHM
22-11-2005, 12:19 PM
PB should have slapped him. He didn't listen all week, the broken oil cooler was the least of their problems.
johnp2002
24-11-2005, 09:25 AM
Here is the car as it sits today
adhowie
24-11-2005, 10:18 AM
Hi johnp2002

im after pics of the VK not the VL

thanks anyway


MarkHM did you receive my PM message and e-mail address?
johnp2002
24-11-2005, 10:24 AM
I know, the pics already posted are as it raced. It had the MOBIL 1 logo in black on the front lights that were painted out in white......

This is the car after it was converted to a VL and raced.......... and sits in our garage today.
adhowie
24-11-2005, 10:48 AM
yes i was thinking great photo and you have answered my question about where it was taken ,it looks like someones backyard.
Im after a photo as it looked at bathurst as a VK in 1986,did the the front indicators have half the N and all the E from a bridgestone logo on then. It would probable have to be the right side.

As a collector of all the brock biante cars i envy you for having a 1/1 example.
Leigh
24-11-2005, 12:16 PM
No bridgestone on the front of the car:confused:

Click the underlined words in my post above;)

Cheers
adhowie
24-11-2005, 12:41 PM
ok time to come clean

have seen this for sale and am trying to workout if its for real
This is the advert

KING OF THE MOUNTAIN

PETER BROCK

ORIGIANL BLINKER FROM THE

05 CAR HE SHARED WITH ALLAN

MOFFAT AT BATHURST.

MOFFATT CRASHED THE CAR IN

PRACTISE

PERSONALLY SIGNED BY THE MAN HIMSELF AND MOFFAT
MarkHM
24-11-2005, 03:44 PM
Can I buy it????
HRT 1-2
24-11-2005, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by lcfp2297
No bridgestone on the front of the car:confused:

Click the underlined words in my post above;)

Cheers

I have a theory on this, looking the images Leigh posted the sister car has a Bridgestone logo on the front guard just behind the indicator and the 05 car doesn't appear to have it. Is it possible all the 05 images are "post" Moffat stack and they didn't re-apply the Bridgestone logo?
Sats
24-11-2005, 05:18 PM
Car 05 definately had Bridgestone on the front guard as Moffat crashed it.
It also ran onto the indicator as well. Aust Airlines was on the side of front bumper.
Sats
24-11-2005, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Rob
I know the guy who took the photos of that Moffat crash.
I have a copy.

Perhaps if your not too busy down at the Island you could post the images Rob???
biante10294
24-11-2005, 07:13 PM
I think this might be the pic you want!
MarkHM
25-11-2005, 02:32 AM
Originally posted by adhowie
Hi johnp2002

im after pics of the VK not the VL

thanks anyway


MarkHM did you receive my PM message and e-mail address?

yes I did, the photo was small and sort of headish on, I will look through my books today.
Leigh
25-11-2005, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by HRT 1-2
I have a theory on this, looking the images Leigh posted the sister car has a Bridgestone logo on the front guard just behind the indicator and the 05 car doesn't appear to have it. Is it possible all the 05 images are "post" Moffat stack and they didn't re-apply the Bridgestone logo?
I had the same thought on the way home last night...

Cheers
MarkHM
25-11-2005, 06:20 AM
On page 127 of the Great Race book, 05 is out in the first practise session with NO bridgestone logo on the front of the car. the indicator was just white.

however, on page 177 when Moff drove it (when he praged it) there was a Bridgestone sticker that draped around the corner so that the "...one" overran the corner of the indicator lens. This was the series that Rob was referring to I think. Of course, the other side had "Br" on the lens.

Later when the car had been repaired, the Bridgestone logo was set well back and did not wrap around the corner at all. In other words the indicators were just white.
johnp2002
28-11-2005, 02:35 PM
If you go to this web site and scroll through the slideshow you will see both a 'with' and 'without photo.....

http://brock05.com/pcbrock80s.php


Cheers
Rob
29-11-2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by Sats
Perhaps if your not too busy down at the Island you could post the images Rob???

I will bring the pics of the crash in tomorrow and post and put the debate to bed
Rob
03-12-2005, 02:21 PM
Here is the first sequence of shots of Moffat's 86 Bathurst chash:
(once cleared by Admin)
Rob
03-12-2005, 02:23 PM
Second Sequence of Shots:
Rob
03-12-2005, 02:24 PM
Final four images:
MarkHM
14-12-2005, 09:08 AM
So after all that, did you buy it?
wayno
14-12-2005, 11:32 AM
Thanks Rob, brings back painfull memories! I'm still sure Ford paid the bespectacled one to stuff Brock's chances that year.
MarkHM
14-12-2005, 12:18 PM
I reckon, he really stuffed it up in '86. A great car that could have easily won (how many times have I said that?)
adhowie
14-12-2005, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by MarkHM
So after all that, did you buy it?


Sorry to say i was beaten to the punch. was a bit unsure on its authenticity but means i have more money to put toward the 1/1 hq monaro i want to buy.

thanks to everyone who responded with photo can wait till its released in 1/18 all those mobil cars looked fantastic
MarkHM
14-12-2005, 12:25 PM
what did it go for?
johnp2002
14-12-2005, 01:06 PM
Hmmm, all this talk about the car..... we might just have to get working on it and convert it back to 'as raced'..... it's sat in my mates garage for 5 years now and we hardly drive it.

I know the guy who took the photos of that Moffat crash. I have a copy. There was nine in the sequence, starting
just as the car has the rear right wheel on the dirt and
ending with Moffat out of the very crunched car just on
the entry to the esses.


We might do a bit of a web site about the car and our work to convert it back..... do you think you could have a chat with your mate and ask him for permission (ie acknowledgement) to use his photos?
MarkHM
14-12-2005, 01:08 PM
Can I buy it please.....????
johnp2002
14-12-2005, 01:20 PM
sure..... it will be for sale once we have finished it......
adhowie
14-12-2005, 06:45 PM
only $150.00 in the end
johnp2002
14-12-2005, 07:07 PM
no it did not sell......

the seller has it and has offered it to me. I believe that the bidding process was not followed as all of my bids were 'magically' ramped up and I bid higher than that.

I don't think it would be too hard to register under another name and 'dummy bid' (eg real estate) to ramp up the price.

You only get caught out when it doesn't sell.

I emailed the seller direct offering to buy it for a fair price but he would not set a price. I emailed him prior to the expiry of the auction and he replied after the auction. He plainly had not sold it.

If you want it I suggest you contact him direct as I did and buy it. I am sure he will take your money.
adhowie
15-12-2005, 05:27 AM
BA@$%RD!!!!

it was the second time it was up for sale as well the first it recieved no bids
if he wants more he should start higher
Rob
15-12-2005, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by johnp2002
We might do a bit of a web site about the car and our work to convert it back..... do you think you could have a chat with your mate and ask him for permission (ie acknowledgement) to use his photos?

I will ask him. But it might be better if you contact him direct. I can give
you his email address if you like?
Rob
09-01-2006, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by johnp2002
We might do a bit of a web site about the car and our work to convert it back..... do you think you could have a chat with your mate and ask him for permission (ie acknowledgement) to use his photos?

Unfortunately for you he sold the rights to ACP - Publishers of Motor/AA etc.
You will have to ask them for permission to use the photos.