Auto Art1999 Vt"skafe"

[jamie harris]

NEED SOME HELP..THE AUTO ART 1/18 1999 FAI 1000 CAR OF MARK "SKAFE"/PAUL MORRIS.(CAR2)HIS NAME WAS SPELT WRONG ON BACK WINDOW. WAS THE CAR WITHDRAWN FROM SALES..HENCE THE LOW PRODUCTION No.(mine is818 of 930)ALSO CRAIG LOWNDES/McCONVILLE(CAR1) IS ONLY A LOW No(964 of1008)WHAT I NEED TO KNOW DOES THIS MAKE THESE CARS SELL AT A HIGHER PRICE ? PHOTOS OF CARS CAN BE SEEN ON MY WEB PAGE(2 ALBUMS)#Ca15
http://au.photos.yahoo.com/jamie_harris1952
ANY ASSISTANCE WOULD BE OF GREAT HELP....JAMIEhttp://au.photos.yahoo.com/jamie_harr is1952

[loste_treasures]

the simple answer to both your questions is YES.....

the longer version is as follows:

SKAFE being spelt wrong will always increase the value of the model. This was not a one off thing. All of these models had the name spelt wrong. Therefore it would have a higher 'resale' value then one with the name spelt correctly.

Having a low production run always increases a models value.

I beleive the history behind these two models are as follows:

Biante had some 'old' stock left over from a previous run. In order to get rid of this stock they decided to do a 'new' run consisting of these two cars. They decided to market them as a twin set. However, in their haste to get them out they obviously didnt do a 'proof' on the skaife car resulting in the name being spelt incorrectly.

Although it is not widely considered a true 'twin' set it is still being sold on the second hand market at a high resale value.

I would not consider selling them off individually. Having them together will always increase their value.

My suggestion to anyone who is considering selling them off is wait. I beleive the value of these two models hasnt reached the peak just yet.

I hope this info helps.

[Richard Poole]

These cars were not made from 'Old Stock'. They were a planned production run and the numbers were set low to try and make them something special. The car was not withdrawn from sale due to the wrong spelling, it was always going to be a small production run.

We ALWAYS have prototypes done for all of our cars and Skaife was spelt correctly on all samples. The names on the windows are decals which were produced by an outside company then sent to the Autoart factory. The error was made between the final prototype and production stages.

The wrong spelling would not effect the current market price as they are all the same. If there was some correct and some incorrect then that would probably have some effect. The most likely causes for the price rise is low numbers, popular drivers, popular team, in what is widely recognised as one of their best liveries.

[loste_treasures]

Originally posted by Richard Poole
These cars were not made from 'Old Stock'. They were a planned production run and the numbers were set low to try and make them something special. The car was not withdrawn from sale due to the wrong spelling, it was always going to be a small production run.

We ALWAYS have prototypes done for all of our cars and Skaife was spelt correctly on all samples. The names on the windows are decals which were produced by an outside company then sent to the Autoart factory. The error was made between the final prototype and production stages.

The wrong spelling would not effect the current market price as they are all the same. If there was some correct and some incorrect then that would probably have some effect. The most likely causes for the price rise is low numbers, popular drivers, popular team, in what is widely recognised as one of their best liveries.

Oh....i stand corrected !!!!!

Thanks Richard.

However i dont agree about the spelling. The market has shown that incorrect spelling (or a variation) does influence the value of a particular model.

As a big user of internet auctions i see that the SKAFE model is attracting big attention and therefore bigger bids.

Whilst on this subject, if these models were originally sold together as a twin set why then are there two seperate production numbers for each car?

Wont that mean there arent going to be enough of each to make the set? Or have i got that wrong as well???

[pdg666]

hi all.
it is my belief these cars are not part of a twin set so to speak like the bathurst 2001 set in double box, they were released seperately in seperate boxes. i.e. sandown cars and presentation cars, but i guess you can call them a "set" if you have both :)

Cheers
Paul

[Richard Poole]

That is right Paul. The cars were never offered as a twin set but most people purchased them both together. they were offered as two single items.

Loste, you have pretty much answered your own question. 'Error cars' attract more interest and occasionaly more money because they are a variation from the intended design (different to the correct version). As all of the #2 99 bathurst HRT cars have SKAFE instead of SKAIFE there is no variation. I have a '95 Schumacher Benetton 'Alesi Taxi Car' and the gloves of Jean's hands have white palms. Apparently this is a variation as a majority of them have red gloves. The white glove version sell for a lot more than the red gloves (the real gloves had white palms). If they all had the same gloves (white or red, correct or incorrect) then there would be no difference in price.

With only 930 produced this is the lowest production run that have been released by Biante. Combine the low numbers with the other factors I mentioned in my previous post and that all adds up to higher prices.

[loste_treasures]

Thank you for clarifying all this Richard......

Theres a saying that you learn something new every day.

Today is no exception

[Richard Poole]

Originally posted by loste_treasures
Were they sold together or seperate????

They were sold as two seperate items. Some stores may have only sold them as pairs but they were originally seperate items exactly the same as the HRT Sandown cars last year. They were listed on the site individually under two seperate listings.

[jamie harris]

I BOUGHT BOTH CARS IN BRISBANE AS THEY WERE UNPACKED IN THE SHOP,AT THAT STAGE I DID NOT NOTICE THE SPELLING.
AS I AM SELLING ALL MY MODELS FROM MY WEB PAGE I HAVE HAD PLENTY OF INTEREST IN THESE 2 SO I HAD TO ASK YOU GUYS
WHAT THE GO WAS I AM VERY THANKFULL FOR THE SPEEDY REPLYS...I ONLY WISH I HAD JOINED SOONER.
MY SIT IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IS
http://au.photos.yahoo.com/jamie_harris1952
THERE ARE 2 ALBUMS.
THANKS...JAMIE

[Ando]

In my opinion the mispelt name has nothing to do with the value, its just that more and more people are starting to collect and are going after the earlier releases to complete their collection.The SKAFE car was selling in Sydney for $900.00 last year untill it was realised that every car had incorrect spelling,the cars that are worth big money are the prototypes that are spelt correctly. All the best ANDO.

[jamie harris]

I HAVE NOTICED OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS THE REPLYS TO MY "SKAFE" QUESTION,WELL THE REASON I ASKED WAS THAT I NEED TO SELL MY COLLECTION FOR PERSONAL REASONS(I'M OVER 50) AND KNEW YOU GUYS ARE UP TO DATE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING. I HAVE "SKAFE" & LOWNDES VT'S M/BOXED WHICH WERE LOW PRODUCTION No'S. ALL I NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT WOULD BE A "FAIR" PRICE.I WILL KEEP READING YOU COMMENYS
AND HOPE TO ADD A FEW IN LATER TIMES.
CARS CAN BE SEEN ON
http://au.photos.com/jamie_harris1952 (2)albums
THANKS GUYS....JAMIE

[ferrari fan]

Richard ,I do also have the Alesi taxi with the in my oppinion correct rendition of white inner palm gloves and the fingerstips that are black.
the other all red must be a lazy paintapplicator in the assemblyshop in my book.
I did not know that there was a difference in $. Does not matter anyway in my case.
Further more I was not aware that you are also collecting F1.
You must have an interesting collection for sure:)

[Richard Poole]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Richard ,I do also have the Alesi taxi with the in my oppinion correct rendition of white inner palm gloves and the fingerstips that are black.
the other all red must be a lazy paintapplicator in the assemblyshop in my book.
I did not know that there was a difference in $. Does not matter anyway in my case.
Further more I was not aware that you are also collecting F1.
You must have an interesting collection for sure:)

I didn't know about the variation either until I was told by a user from this forum (I think it was The_Real_Oz_GP, sorry if I am wrong).

Apparently the white gloves sell for about US$50 to US$100 more than red gloves (I say again, APPARENTLY). Like you, it doesn't matter to me as I will not sell it. It was just an example I used.

I have a few 1:18 F1, about 30 I think, and not one Ferrari! I am willing to wait for 'that deal' to end. No where near your collection. Speaking of your collection, have you moved into your new house yet and if so when do I get my tour?:D

[ferrari fan]

I only have a small collection ,Richard ,Yes We have moved in and you are welcome at any time as is the rest of the Biante tean ,If you are willing to honour us with your presence.
I am still busy setting up and finnishing the room off.

[Grubby]

Ferrari Fan

Do you have a specail room for your models or are you setting them up in a room you use for other things also ?

Just interested.

Grubby

[ferrari fan]

Yes I have a separate Modelroom

[Grubby]

Ferrari Fan

That's great. That is what all of us model collectors would like.

Maybe one day.

Grubby

[Grubby]

Ferrari Fan

When you get your cars set-up in your room you will have to post some pictures for us all to see.

It sounds like it should be great.

Grubby

[ferrari fan]

I am a bit concerned at the concequences in letting the wide world in on what is there and what is not.
I am willing to post a pic of the ferrari cabinet and so on by it self.
I do this hobby in realistc terms purely for my own pleasure and it is not a public place like most of us see our own home.
The inplications of outsiders having knowledge of what is available in a particular dwelling, is very clear in my day to day work.
this is the dilema that we all face and the knowledge is not passed on to the younger generation out of the above concern, even in this hobbyfield.
I am taking a risk by just responding to questions of new collectors, it gives an indication ,true or false
I don't have much but sufficient for me to care.
and this is an open domain.

[Grubby]

Ferrari Fan

I understand what you are saying and it is unfortunate but totally true. I am sure that we all collect for our own pleasure not the general publics.
As collectors we are interested in other collectors, collections & displays. Sometime we are lucky and can meet these fellow collectors and see what they have. Sometimes not.

It's a funny place. Enjoy what you have got and if possible a few pictures of certain displays etc I'm sure will be enjoyed by fellow collectors.

Thanks

Grubby