2001 Bathurst Car?

[the_goldie]

Does anyone know when the Skaife/Longhurst Bathurst winning car is due to be released. It seems to be taking a long time to be released.
Also will the car be part of the Bathurst Collection?
How does a bathurst winning car become part of the Bathurst Collection?

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks.

also the Brock/Mezera Bathurst car looks great!!!

[Mark]

Correct me if I am wrong, but has it not already been done as a seperate car and a twin pack????......

[bev]

Of course this car will be part of the Bathurst winners series. It qualifies because it won the race in 2001.....

As to the release date of the single model, at the moment the only folk who would be privy to this information would be the factory in China, who have four thousand people beavering away full time.

[the_goldie]

It was done in a twin pack with Bright's but I missed the boat on this one (as they were sold out so quickly on the site) and refuse to pay a ridiculous amount of money for these 2 cars. But if anyone has them for a decent price I might be willing to pay it. Again raises the issue of buying and then selling for a profit rather than buying and displaying for the fun of collecting these great models.

Thanks Bev. Guess I will just have to get some other cars I have been wanting that were on the back burner to add to my collection.

[Hati]

Somebody is walking on your toes Aussiecollector?

[v8coupe]

I thought Biante would have an idea want is going on over there in the china factory.
And why reproduce a car that has already been made.
I just wonder if they will drop in price like the rest of the hrt's.

[thekid_600]

thanks bev! nice to know the progress. yeah, i'm looking forward to the single release of 1:18 skaife/longhurst. is this the first model to have a letter at the end of numbers as a code?

v8coupe, this is different to the twin pack - it's a bathurst winners collection. much better. :)

[Aussiecollector]

Hey where did my reply go am I being censured.

[Mark]

Originally posted by thekid_600
v8coupe, this is different to the twin pack - it's a bathurst winners collection. much better. :)

I have been assured that the twin back is as much a part of the Bathurst winners collection as the single one.

So get which ever one you want.

[thekid_600]

sorry mark, what i meant was a single car collection, like the tander/bargwanna 2000 VT. the twin pack is somewhat special. :) i put that in the same category as 99 MHRT bathurst VTs and the coming release of the moffat 1 -2.

[v8coupe]

Kid,

It is just that Biante said a model would not be reproduced, and they are acually making a car that is the same as the one in the bathurst pack. Just in a different box.
As I collect all the holdens, it's another I'll have to buy :(

[thekid_600]

it's arguable daniel..... i mean, superficially they are the same models, but i guess they are produced for different reasons....
it's a hard one to judge.

[v8coupe]

I would like to know why this 2001 skaife/longhurst is going to be done again.

[goxu1]

yep , me too

[Aussiecollector]

I was going to comment but I might get struck off

[the_goldie]

I want to know where AussieCOlector's comment went?

Maybe they are making the model again as a Single Car cause some people don't want the twin set? Maybe if Bright/Mezera came 2nd then maybe the twin set would have been the only one made and then no need for another model.

[thekid_600]

yeah, i want to know too. the closest i can get to is that they're treating the twin pack as something "Special". and then they also want to make a "bathurst winners" car for 2001.

[Aussiecollector]

I think my reply was removed due to the tone of my reply and the word C**p.

I doesn’t matter, that was days ago and I hope we have all moved on.

I too am disappointed that the car is going to be re-released and that the twin set is not part of the “Bathurst Collection".

If Biante is serious about a serious Bathurst collection then I propose the following;

1. That it have its own special packaging not the standard window face packaging. Make them in the better quality sealed boxes with graphics inside the lid (ie like the GMP cars and the HRT 4 car set).

2. Set the release numbers for 2 years in advance so everyone knows what to expect and can place orders with they favourite shop.

3. Release the current year winner and one retro winner each year.

4. Release them in 1/18th and 1/43rd

5. Don’t release the car in any other set or configuration unless it is a team edition such as the HRT twin set.

6. Release the car within 6 months of the race.

Make the collection something very special that everyone will wait each year for with baited breath.

A collection that I can start and my sons can continue in the future for as long as the race is run or the costs become prohibitive.

Biante I will be very straight with you, you give us the respect we deserve as paying customers and not the C**p replies we have seen in this thread and others the moment someone is a little critical of you and we will support you and give you nothing but praise. As a business owner who lives and dies by customer service and has not lost a customer in 7 years I know only too well what I am talking about.

You make a good product. You are human like us and from time to time some mistakes will be made (like the Skafe) and quality issues may arise (like the rear doors on a lot of the VT’s not closing properly) hopefully these quality issues brought to your attention by us the collectors/customers has helped you improve the standard of the cars. One last thing are you importing spare parts for the Aussie cars yet as I believe the consumer ACT states that if you import a product you must also ensure that it can be repaired or supply spare parts for it. The reason for this comment is you may remember my email last year asking for an aerial for the VT (HRT packaging) that was missing, “you said sorry we don’t carry spare parts�. Maybe you should as it is all about customer service.

I look forward to many constructive replies and threads from you.

Regards Glenn

[v8coupe]

2 How often is a competition car made?
One production run only is done, as there are many fields to cover. That is why you need to buy your favourite competition car as soon as you see it available.

maybe it should say; except for the 2001 bathurst car

[thekid_600]

i agree with those points glenn made. especially the one about the 1:43 and 1:18 and the packaging.
not sure about the 1 retro and 1 current per year proposal, but i guess it'll work well.

[GTSCoup]

Aussiecollector.

May I ask a few questions, make a few comments.

Your reply to Bevs answer was unwarranted. A question was asked and Bev provided an answer, no need for a sacastic post like that really was there!. The internet and these forums are great things but just because you can post a mesage, doesn't mean you should.

Are you in the model business?. You seem to tell Biante how to run things often so you must be. The closest time I ever get to being involved in the industry is when I remove my models from their boxes to put into the cabinet. I don't know and I doubt you do know the scheduling/cost/tooling effort that goes into producing models so I would never think of telling Biante how to run their business. Your ideas sound good and may work but without knowing the ins and outs of the industry are you qualified to comment?. A suggestion is fine but the way you write sounds like you know all of the details and this is how it MUST be done.

Everyone wants good service and Biante have never let me down. They are always pleasent when I phone and e-mail and have never given me any reason to be anything but pleased with my dealings with them.

Please don't take this as any sort of attack on yourself or anyone else in this forum as it is most definitely not intended as one. I like a peaceful forum just as much as the next guy. I just wanted to point out that Biante have been in business for some time and seem to be doing things Ok. How about we let them continue to do so.

Thanks for reading. I sincerely hope no one was offended.

[Aussiecollector]

GTSCoupe

That what I was trying to say in the last post, its all about customer service, if your experiences have been good then thats great. Me reply relates my experiences with Biante and the replies that they have offered to both mine and others, and if you look at bevs reply it was a touch condescending.

I am in no way in the model business, I am a 37 year old business owner that left school at 15 and has had to work hard for everything I have. It is only in the last 5 years that I have had the income to furnish myself with the models of my choosen hobby "MotorSport". I have worked in customer service positions all my working life so it is this point that I felt qualified to write on.

I haven't taken offence because with a Forum such as this you don't know me and I don't know you so you can only go on face value, which is someones last reply.

If you look at my replies they have not been demeaning to Biante but I write as I see it and sometimes people dont like that.

The last thread does say no more C**p and lets work togeather to create products that Biante can be proud to sell and we the CUSTOMERS can be proud to by and display.

[Dazz]

I really don't see the problem guy's. I wrote a simple e-mail to Bev last year regarding the Skaife/Longhurst 2001 Bathurst winning car asking when it would be done.

I was told promptly and politely (as has always been the case), it would be done in 2002.

Biante announced the released of the twin pack with the Bright/Mezera car and I double checked to see if a single Skaife/Longhurst car was still being done. I received another propt polite reply stating it would. As I had no desire to buy the Bright/Mezera car, I didn't and am now waiting for the single Skaife/Longhurst car.

If you wanted both cars, great, if you only wanted the Bathurst winning car, all anybody had to do was ask a simple question as I did and you would have known it would be done seperately as originally stated on the web site I believe.

There is a thing called initiative people, taking responsibility for finding out what YOU want to know, not waiting for others to tell you and then complaining when you didn't know something.

[the_goldie]

All,

I was asking when this model would be released because I knew of this model first before the twin pack and I unfortuantely missed out on the twin pack. If they didn't bring this model out then no biggie to me, I will get the twin pack sooner or later. But if Biante did not bring this model out after saying it would be out and people were waiting for the single model only then I would assume there will be alot of unhappy people.

Another question - is the twin pack part of the Bathurst Collection??? It has the Bathurst winner so does this mean it qualifies as part of the Bathurst Collection???

[thekid_600]

i think the twin pack is more of a special release than anything else. but i guess you could argue it's a bathurst winner collection. but if thats the case, what would the A80169W VX be if there is already a bathurst winner??? :confused:
my minds spinning......

[Mark]

When the news came out that this release would be both a single car and a twin pack, I e-mailed Bev about the Bathurst winners collection. Her reply was basically that they were the same car. Just different packaging. They are both the same car. The car that is in the Winners collection.

[v8coupe]

Every one seemed to complain when the moffat mustang was going to be redone. And now comes the 2001 bathurst car.
Maybe they could go and make the other cars again that people missed.
Whats stopping them?

[Dazz]

Is it just me or are some people missing the point here?

Biante were always doing a single Skaife/Longhurst car, which was confirmed to me by e-mail. Once again showing if you want to know something in particular, ask for yourself! It seems that Mark and I did and know what's going on, so if you didn't that is your problem.

They then released a limited number of twin packs, but never said it was in place of the single Skaife/Longhurst car.

And we are are now waiting for the single car to come out. Simple.

There is no re-release, no double ups, no re-do's or anything shifty or misleading like that.

[the_goldie]

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I too am disappointed that the car is going to be re-released and that the twin set is not part of the “Bathurst Collection".
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I think the Skaife/Longhurst car (in the twin pack) is still considered to be part of the Bathurst collection? Someone correct me if this is not correct... After all it is the same car but as mentioned before just different packaging.

I have now purchased the twin set because I did want the Bright/Mezera car, but I would have been happy to wait for the single edition of the Skaife/Longhurst car if I had to.

Dazz - I had asked before when the single car was going to be released (with no specific date) and again was curious as I would have thought it would be available shortly as I wanted to add this to my collection as I think the car(s) looks great.

AussieCollector - I think the twin pack is "special" due to the fact you get both HRT cars that raced in Bathurst, similar to the 99 HRT Bathurst cars.

Twin pack or single as long as we all get the cars we are after in the end we can be happy :)

Happy Collecting everyone...

[thekid_600]

Actually, Dazz is right - that A80169W picture has been up there in the 1:18 aussie cars section before the twin pack even came out i think, so i think yeah.... maybe we all knew? :confused:
still confused....

[Ando]

I dont know why some of you are so hyped up about this model. I knew long ago that the single car was coming out in the Bathurst Winners collection as did some of you. I didnt buy the twin set as i did not want the second car,that was my choice. Its pretty simple logic, if you dont want it ,dont buy it, youve got a choice and there isnt anybody holding a gun to your head telling you to buy both, get one or both whatever suits your collection and stop making mountains out of molehills.

[Aussiecollector]

Ando,

The issue at hand is some of us were lead to believe that the twin set was in fact the bathurst winners collection car. The emails I received suggested that the single car was being released as a reaction to the fact that the twin car sold out very quick and alot of people missed out.

This thread has been like a roller coaster.

The hype is part of being a collector its protectionist its the feeling that what you thought may only be 1 in 1000 and something that only 1000 others have is not so.

The mountain and the molehill are the same it just depends on the size of the mole.

I would like to start a new thread dedicated to the Bathurst collection if I get time tonight I will write it stay tuned

Glenn

[thekid_600]

this is becoming a bit confusing.......
regardless of whatever happened, the single car is coming out. this is a bathurst winners series, which takes over the 2000 bargs/tander VT until bathurst 2002 is run. to me, it's only logical that they release a single car winner to match the 2000 winner, and subsequent winners.

[Troy_H]

I believe it was made quite clear what would happen with these models. I recall being informed on a email update and it was quite clear to me that this would be reproduced as a single model. The twin set is just that, the HRT cars that competed at Bathurst, one just happened to win the race. If you did not want the Bright car, you should not have paid over $300 for the set.

As there were only 1000 or so of these available, it was clear that these would not be enough to satisfy all who collect the Bathurst winner.

There are a lot of these twin sets going for twice the initial release price. It seems a lot of people only bought them to make a quick buck. If you are lucky enough to have it, be satisfied that you have a very limited set. As for everyone else, we all now get a chance to have the Bathurst winner as part of the collection.

Another good thing will be that the profiteers won't be selling the twin sets for anything near what they are currently asking.

[thekid_600]

what they could do now is the release the Bright/Mezera car also just to make things fairER.
i know of some people out there who JUST want the #2 HRT VX, and therefore another different type of victim of the twin pack.....

[Ando]

I totally agree Troy H you only have to look at the Biante Buy/Swap/Sell sight and see how many Twin sets are for sale and the prices being asked to work out what you said is right. My point is those of you who have the twin set,great youve got 1 of 1000 and that will never change and if your not worried about the box you can put it on display with the Bathurst winners and dont worry about getting the single car its your choice. I chose to wait for the single car as it works out right with my collection and is part of the Bathurst winners collection.I dont know where all this confusion started the twin set was always a special offer never a part of the winners collection and this was known well before the twin set came out.The fact that the single car is coming shouldnt make any difference to the real value of the twin set as it is a special low number made offer and not just Biante trying to double up as it was known what they were going to do.
Anyway all the best ,see you at the Canberra 400.

Paul

[Aussiecollector]

Ivan,

Did you say earlier that you wanted a twin car set at right price.

I have a spare that I took as a second option, at retail if you want

Let me know we may be able to hook up some place.
Glenn

[thekid_600]

no glenn. what i mean is some others i know (and possibly myself soon) are looking for JUST the #2 Bright/Mezera car.
right now, there is no way of getting that, except to get the twin pack.
what im saying is, if they're going to release the skaife/longhurst car separately and everyone's complaining that it was unfair because of the twin pack, biante could release the bright/mezera car also separately to make thing a little fairer.