CC Models released...

[the_goldie]

All,

Just saw the new models from CC in HobyCo in Sydney.
The list of models are ($37.95 each):

Paragon MS VIP Pet Food AU Falcon 2002 - McLean

Dupoint Ford AU Falcon 2002 - Weel

Cat Racing AU Falcon 2002 (no name on window)

SBR Havoline AU Falcon 2002 - Besnard

Sirromet Wines VX Commodore 2002 - Morris

GRM Valvoline VX Commodore 2002 - Tander

GRM Valvoline VX Commodore 2002 - Bargwanna

Perkins Engineering Castrol VX Commodore 2002 – Perkins

Perkins Engineering Castrol VX Commodore 2002 – Ingall

Glenn Seton Racing AU Falcon 2002 – Seton

DJR Shell AU Falcon 2002 – Radisich

DJR Shell AU Falcon 2002 – S Johnson

Perkins Engineering Castrol VX Commodore 2002 - Richards

SBR Pirtek AU Falcon 2002 - Ambrose


They look pretty good, but I am sure there are others out there with a keener eye for detail than myself. Once the 1:43 Skaife and Murph cars are released from BIANTE I will be able to get the podium finishers for 2002 :) in the smaller scale.

I saw their 1:64 versions and these are still the same as usual... eeeewwwwwwww ... no where on BIANTEs pocket rockets :D these are just awesome, at least their 1:43s have improved.

Also how come both BIANTE and CC do the Shell Cars???

[SWRT]

Biante and CC's both did HRT and DJR 1/43's last year but this year it's only DJR.
The only difference is that Biante have done Ritters car and CC's canceled thier plans to thier Ritter car because of DJR's withdrawl of Ritters car during the year.
DJR want to know which company would be better to stick with so they can drop one for next year.

[ferrari fan]

:D

[Dr Diecast]

I`ve seen the new released 1/43 CC and they have great detail.Well the V8 Supercar season is over for the year,and no sign of the HRT,KMART and others hope we don`t have to until next year to collect this years cars. :(

[Aussiecollector]

Hey FF a blank screen "whats up" or were you censored by admin or did you have second thoughts and self censor.

Dr Diecast wait you will just like the rest of us.

Glenn

[the_goldie]

I bought the Ambrose 1:43 CC today. Overall it looks pretty damn good ($37.95). The one mistake I can see is the V8 Supercar logo above the number has a white border around it but other than that it looks good. The dual fuel caps are just printed on though :( Under carriage looks good and tyres and wheels look good too, and the paintwork seems better than the seton and GRM cars released earlier in the year (100% better than last years efforts, which is good to see).

[Senator1]

Bought all 3 Castrol cars couple months ago, yesterday bought Paul Morris Sirromet Wines model,great looking car & must say their models are great improvement on years gone by

[Aussiecollector]

Have you guys noticed the one major difference between the CC Commodores, (Castrol and the others).

I can not work out why its on one team and not all of them.

Glenn

[brchi17]

Has anyone noticed how the Glenn Seton's 2002 race car has an actual cut out in the rear 1/4 pannel for the fuel fillers & all of the others just have a sticker place of the cut out ?
I wonder why this has been the case ?
Did cc decide that it was a cheeper option to just make a regular (universal) rear 1/4 pannel & put a stick on it, rather than making individual moulds (for the various race teams & their various postitioning of the fuel fillers) ?
Either way I believe that this 'cheepens' the great job they have done in improving their models, up to the 'Biante' standard.
Food for thought,
cheers.

[7Litre]

They come up with good replicas this time, which inturn is producing a good value for money product.

[ferrari fan]

Have a gawk at their 1/64 efford will you!
these are not any better than the freebies that one got with Valv oil
I cannot say what I realy think cause I will get Gonged again, naugty me, I should exercise selfrestraint GRRRRRRRR.
Oilraight I'm coping, iam truly, Would I ly to yuo all now would I,have I got an wooden eye? C.C. seems to think so!! :D

[SmartyMarty]

Does anybody have the 1/18 Mustang from CC? I haven't seen that car in the shops yet although it should be there by november ( well..release dates:rolleyes: )
I m also looking forward to their highly praised 1/18 V8 supercars....also not released yet...does anybody know more?
Cheers Marty

[brchi17]

The mustang is not out yet, but i've heard that it is not a true cc model. They have had it made by ERTL (proberly using an existing Mustang just painted in the Australian colours) on cc's behalf, just like minichamps made the DJR Sierra for Biante.
cheers.

[WESTY]

It will be interesting to see the quality and detail
of the Geoghegan Mustang and also the Charger
both in 1/18 scale.
They look good on the flyer but the RRP of $190
is a touch steep when we know the quality of the
Biante cars at a lesser price.

:D

[Aussiecollector]

brchi17,

Its the same with the commodores, Castrol has the diecut version and al the reast that I have seen so far have the stickers.

It would appear that an effort was made for the two models used for most of the promos and marketing and then maybe the belt was tightened. Regardless of what FF thinks, we know he has shares in Biante. The models have improved, and we are talking about the 1/43rds not the 1/64ths, no one in their right mind would suggest that they are comparable to any AutoArt 1/64th.

The options we know have is that we can have a collection of cars from the racing year in a more complete for than before, CC may not yet be at the top of the tree, but is this not the same as the Holden / Ford battle. Think about it, Holden release the VT, Ford takes 7 years to release a car that is (dare I say it) better, the benchmark has been moved, Ford holds the cards, the ball is in Holdens court to come out and trump the Ford Ace. It will happen this is what competition is all about.
Now with CC they still have some work to do but Ill bet that it has shown Biante / AutoArt that the collectors dollars will be spent elsewhere this year and next if they don't continue to improve and stay ahead they will loose our dollars, once again its competition. And at the end of the day who wins US , with more cars, better quality cars, more diverse ranges (hopefully) and more complete collections.

Glenn
A collector of all makes of Racing Diecast not just Biante, because FF thinks that they are the best.

[lachlan]

I will say one thing for the CC cars, there wheels are heaps better than the Biante ones. If you have one of each compare the two and I think you will agree?

[ferrari fan]

Aussie ; Go and do yourself a favour, and check the latest modelrelease of Ferrari out at theFerraridealer in your town Sydney! I am sure that I do not have to give you their adress
You will find there the ENZO Ferrari in all its glorie! Enjoy.
After this please walk in a Holden or Ford dealership and inspect their wares You will notice the difference I am sure.
The same difference with Biante and the brand that you try to hold up high( C.C.) So far their models have left MUCH to be desired and so is their release schedule if they even have one
See I can restrain myself if I have to, and creating an reply to an eminent a person like yourself surely does help!:)

[Aussiecollector]

FF, has it been hot in Perth, I recommend a good hat,sunscreen and a good rest.

Whats the Ferrari dealer got to do with it? And, Enzo may he rest in peace.

And just for the record I don't hold them in high regard, I said they have improved and them improving should make Biante better and therefore CC better aswell.

Whilst they are not to your standards they are filling the gaps left by Biante / Autoart, which enables collectors like me to have a full range of teams for the Race Year. Its not your money we are spending so stick to your tractors and steam engines.

Please read the forums before responding or would you like me to write it in Dutch for you.

Glenn

[fords_r_us]

Just to change the subject a little guys I just popped into Coffey Ford & they've got the Geoghegan Mustang on display & I must admit it is awesome, if not the best model CC have realesed from the ones I've seen (definately worth the $195). Not taking anything any from Biante who definately make the better models in my eyes.

Unfortunately they wouldn't sell it to me :( because they said it was a display model only but the rest should be in by the 17th. Can't wait til I get mine...

[brchi17]

You've been to my faviorite car shop, where I buy all my models.
I've heard it looks the goods, but I must pop in to see it if its' there.
I wonder if anyone knows what the other Mustangs will be that cc are producing in the comming months ?
cheers.

[ferrari fan]

"Smoke must have been getting into your eyes" or the cavety behind it.
The ENZO is the new model Ferrari that is in the scale of 1/1.
You are not getting the gist or the intention of the reply.
And please refrain from thinking of going the etnic abusive way . May be in the goodness of time ; your narrow field of vision will be broadened ,to enjoy the full spectrum of what is on offer, including our motoring /Farming heritage.
:D

P,s. The C.C. Mustang is a cheap piece sold at an inflated $
typicaly C.C.

[Aussiecollector]

FF, No words can be used to expain what you are about so I wont bother responding. You are way out there brother!!!!

Glenn

[Oh Five]

Dont get too fazed aus, ff is from a different planet and is one eyed Biante, you should know better than to mention another brand on this site!!!!
Regards.;)

[admin]

Come on 0h Five.. get real...on the CC site they even have a block so you can't type the word Biante.
I have never objected to any comments about anything on this site that is not defamatory or unacceptable language and have never stopped you or FF or Aussiecollector mentioning any other brand.
Its a good thread though for feedback.
Maybe I will get a US$9.70 (thats $17.28 at todays rate) model from one of my sources, paint a few stripes on it, print an Aussie drivers name on it and sell it for $195.00. Good profit margin too!!
Seems the price is acceptable to ford_r_us and a few others.
Saves tooling cost for Aussie cars

[SmartyMarty]

I was at the model shop today and ordered the CC Mustang...i wanted to see it before and i must say its a nice model..the price is a bit too high but still its a better deal than the Welly Mustang.
I just expected more details...

CC praises the car a bit too much on their page...the finish could be better and the gaps( right word?) between the door and the body and the bonnet are too big..therefore you can slide the seats forward and back...(what for???) Instead of that they should have made a working suspension which is a must in that price range(in my oppinion)


@ admin...is the CC Mustang based on the gmp model?

[brchi17]

I've heard that classic have used the ERTL version of a '65 Mustang & have done what admin said (added some stripes & #'s & jacked up the price).

But this isn't the first time such a thing has been done, do we remember the '89 DJR Sierra ?

This car was an existing model made by minichamps & changed for Biante (the euro versions were around the $100 mark, but Dicks was $155-).

Now before everyone cans me for saying this, I know it costs money to convert the euro car to RHD & add all of Dick's individual items, but this may start to become a common practice as we Australians expect versions a limited interest (thinking world wide interest here) model. And why should you reinvent the wheel, when you've already got a pretty good one (thinking about the DJR Sierra).

I suppose the main issue here is, should they (classic, etc...) put a massive profit margin on top of these models, just because they have made some changes to an already present model ?

Food for thought,
cheers.

[Aussiecollector]

Admin, Get back down off your box, Oh Five was refering to FF and the fact that he gets a little stressed evertime that the C word is mentioned. We appreciate that you allow other brands to be mentioned and i like that you consider it feedback, "hopefully some of it is taken as constructive.

"The CC Mustang" well I say buyer beware, flip the model and see what its base states. It sounds like the same problem as the Moffat car, made by Welly, cheap as chips in the states and flogged to diehard fans here for an very inflated premium. Every one paid big dollars because it was from Moffat, I think he took his fans for a ride.

The DJR sierra well some may argue that its just a repaint and some decals, but arn't they all after the original mould is cast, but I will let Admin fight his own battles on this one.

I doub't that real collectors will buy these cars once they look at them, I know I don't. The 1/43rds are another case, which is what this thread was started about, they have improved and are not bad value if you want to collect the 2002 field. Sitting on a shelf altogether they look ok, its not like they have to do a 1000 kays at bathurst.

Glenn

[ferrari fan]

First of all ;If you do the calculation then every collector got their RS500 DJR at a discount rate never mind the customisation and the terrific decal application plus special packaging .This model is like all the models that are brought out by our forum host and at an issueprice that is amazingly LOW, for such a specialised product.
The only model I did not like is was the XE DJR, cause I thought it was with out the multicoloured 7 ring etc. and someone reacted to the ad I placed, but I had to wait for a couple of weeks ,cause there was no money available, in that time I changed my mind as the model grew on me like mould.
This is in stark contrast of the oppositions effort of the stang etc
Secondly; I am in possesion of a lot more non BIANTE models .
One eyed is the wrong connetation , A Quality appreciating modelcollector would be more close to the mark.
There is a (slight) flaw in my makeup; I do not stand fools lightly!
So if the shoe fitts wear it. :D

[admin]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by brchi17
[B]I've heard that classic have used the ERTL version of a '65 Mustang & have done what admin said (added some stripes & #'s & jacked up the price).

But this isn't the first time such a thing has been done, do we remember the '89 DJR Sierra ?

This car was an existing model made by minichamps & changed for Biante (the euro versions were around the $100 mark, but Dicks was $155-).

The only flaw in this argument, is that, to date, there is NO other 1:18th Sierra on the market. Admin

[diecastdude]

Yep thats the way I remeber it being stated, the 1.18 DJR sierra is the first 1.18 sierra world wide and probably the reason why it fetches the dollars people are asking for them.

[berkut76]

There is one slight problem with the ERTL's Mustang theory. To my best knowledge, ERTL has never done 1964 or 1965 Mustang as regular "Toy Store" release. The only suitable mold for CC project is 1964.5 Mustang Convertible released as a part of ERTL Precision 100 series. In terms of quality, Ford P100 series is only slightly below Exoto's products. The relative "low" price of P100 models in the States: $50 - $65US on the street was only made possible because Ford Motor Co. directly financed the project. If it wasn't for Ford financial contribution and assistance the price for this model would have easily hit $100US mark. If somebody has doubts as to the quality of ERTL's P100(!) Mustang check out this:
http://www.diecast.org/diecast98/html/asp/list_rev iews/xq/ASP/id.EP32400N/qx/reviewpix.htm
The only other possibility is that CC used a Mira mold, but that's not even remotely plausible.

Regards,
Sergey

[brchi17]

I though the same regarding this models, but the news I got was that it was made by ERTL.
cheers.

[SmartyMarty]

@berkut
...could be the one...it seems the precision series has slide seats too...and on CC s page they have a picture of the Mustang interieur where they say..:"the roof has been removed to show the detail of the interieur"...or something like that...just a coincidence?:eek:
from my memory the CC Mustang is pretty close to the pictures of that ertl precision model you ve shown us....that would mean they produced 4000 single roofs for that car :p
cheers Marty

[Esses]

Jeez, guys, cool it a little, huh? My only comment is: after much heartburning & dithering I recently bought the CC Pirtek Falcon over the 00 Lowndes Falcon. Reason? I couldn't see $12-00 difference in quality between the two & I'm entirely happy with my choice. That said, I think Biante's are a touch better & I'm STILL hanging out for the Brock 05 Bathurst VY in 1/43.
By the way, admin., I can't seem to access the Biante homepage, even from here. All my other links are working fine.

[SmartyMarty]

...the hinge of the bonnet is also the same;) ....if it s really based on the ertl precission series they really changed alot...the area under the bonnet including the engine is totally different. Its alright Steve..i m just interested if they used another model and which one it is....i still say its wonderful model...after i saw it i decided to buy it....and i m looking forward to see one of their Falcons too....
cheers Marty

[Nick Short]

Going back a few posts (I'm always several hours behind you guys; that's the wonder of Greenwich Mean Time!) if the DJR Sierra is the first in 1:18, does that mean one day we might see a road version? I realise it won't be Biante, as Aussies never got RS500 road cars officially, but maybe Minichamps might oblige? I hope so!

[Troy_H]

My understanding of the new CC Mustang is that it is being manufactured by Exoto.

Saw the model on the weekend. It is fantastic. Well worth the money. Very much like the P100 models. They probably come out of the same factory under different names eg ertl, exoto etc.

[brchi17]

Originally posted by Nick Short
Going back a few posts (I'm always several hours behind you guys; that's the wonder of Greenwich Mean Time!) if the DJR Sierra is the first in 1:18, does that mean one day we might see a road version? I realise it won't be Biante, as Aussies never got RS500 road cars officially, but maybe Minichamps might oblige? I hope so!

I'd love a Black RS500 with Q17 number plates on it, just like the one Dick used to have (perhaps an addition for the DJR collection admin ???).
It was also featured in an add for Ultra Hi back in 1989 & was parked next to the racer (the 2 picks were actually merged together as Dick was siting in the road car in casual clothes & in the racecar with all of his racing gear).
cheers.

[brchi17]

Originally posted by enforcer
We are doing "Q17"

who are we ?