Bad news Collectors

[wynncau]

Is there some way we can get rid of or let people know about people who buy and sell on the internet that are bad news. People who sell cars giving miss leading information, people who sell damaged cars, people who win a car on an auction and then don't want it.
I have all these happen to me in the last couple of months.
Buying and selling on the internet is built on trust with large amounts of money being sent, trusting that the person on the other end who may be on the other side of the country is going to do the right thing. There are people out there who aren't and people need to know about them so as the trust can remain.
I recently sold a car. Sent it COD and the guy on the other end decided he didn't want it. I had to pay postage both ways plus the cost of selling it. When I contacted the post office he informed me he had sent several packages back for this same guy and had another 8 sitting there not picked up. People need to know about people like this.
I know some of these auction sites have a voting systems but is there more we can do?

[Oh Five]

Name him so none of us get burnt either!!. I find the majority on Biante's Buy Sell Swap are good to deal with.

[brchi17]

wynncau,
looks like you need to write really bad responces about them in their profile when you are dearling with them.
I have been a very fortunate user of sold.com.au, but mind you i send some time checking out a seller before i place my bid. However, i can't comment on selling as i haven't done any.
cheers.

[croweater]

Hi wynncau - is this post office in Millthorpe by any chance?

[croweater]

Hello again wynncau - I have done some detective work on sold.com. I am guessing the person you are talking about is HEWARD555. Check out this guy's +ve feedbacks from jding1232002 and cobra3502003 and then look at THEIR negative feedbacks! I think you will come to the same conclusion as me - they are all the same person and are ripping all of us off! I am emailing a complaint to sold.com - why don't you do the same?

[XR8Man1]

Hi, I think i sent a COD to the same guy and i havn't received the money yet so i guess i will be ringing the post office, his email was something like heward555 so i guess he's just mucking me around, although he reaconed he got them, but i guess he's just lieing.

[wynncau]

Looks like a lot of us have been stung by the same guy. I was reluctant to name him but everyone else has. If he has a car of yours and you don't have the money you might as well call 131318 and they will put you through to the post office. Yes the guy who did sting me is from Millthorpe, his ID is heward555 and in case he is using another ID on another site his name is DAVID ROSSER. I have also contacted Sold.com to complain. The more the better. I haven't heared back from them.

[Aussiecollector]

Why do you guys trust anyone to COD? I find it very stange that you would allow the cars to leave without payment first.

Glenn

[diecastdude]

Regarding this heward555 slime, while I havn't been stung by this guy or anyone else all should be made aware that he uses the same I.D on eBay as well. Just reading his responces to some of his bad ratings on SOLD should be enough warning to stay well clear of dogs like this.

[MrHoldens]

As I have brought the majority of my cars using COD I couldnt let this post go by without a reply. The trust factor in buying model cars works both ways, I use COD because I don't like sending money before I have something to show for that money for example with money order or cheque a seller could cash that in and never send a car, so I think it's not an issue of what system to use to buy or sell a car but it all comes down to honesty by both the seller and the buyer. It is therefore people like this character that make it hard for the genuine ones.

[terrine]

it would appear that some buyers dont like paying before they recieve their model and some vendors dont like sending it until they are paid. we have all run into this dilemma.

while we are all reluctant to pay in advance for an item from basically an unknown vendor if you use the direct deposit by internet you do have some safe guard over money order or cheque payment....you have that vendors bank details, which, in themselves mean little, but everybank account is supported by legislated identification of the account holder. this means if all else fails you at least have some starting place for the police..
and i am not a philadelphian lawyer but i am sure this would be a criminal offence.

r/peter

[7Litre]

My motto is:

'Once Burnt twice shy' if dont you don't have it in your hands, then don't part with your hard earnt cash.

Don't Bore, Just Big Block it...

[Oh Five]

Originally posted by Aussiecollector
Why do you guys trust anyone to COD? I find it very stange that you would allow the cars to leave without payment first.

Glenn

I find this method fair to both parties,, no money ...no car. yep sure it can backfire, but at least you get the car back.
Cheers.

[perry]

I take some members dont fully understand COD. COD stands for Cash On Delivery. You send the goods, and fill out a form at the post office. The post office contacts the recipient, and informs them a COD package is waiting for them. The reciever goes into the post office, and takes hold of the package ONLY after they have paid for the goods in full.

The sender can even add the postage charges to the costs (ie: reciever pays postage at his end), which saves a lot of time by way of not having to quote postage costs.

[john]

I will purchase only through COD. If you don't pay at the post office, you don't get the goods!. Most ads are now saying ...will sell on in Melb or so on which is disappointing because with COD I have bought cars throughout the country. It's a damn shame these people negotiate with other collectors then let you down, it ruins it for everyone else.

[Nick Short]

Thanks for the warning about this guy! I buy and sell quite a few things (not models) this way, and often don't bother to check the feedback......I think the little minus sign on Heward555's "score" might have rung some alarm bells, but I couldn't believe the lame excuses he's posted for each and every failure to pay! What a snivelling wretch....

[heward555]

I am reply to the accusations made about me firstly wynncau is only giving bad news about me because he blames me from stopping him from getting the moffat twin set.
Yes I have sent some back which not my fault people ask me to bid on sertain things fro them which I was happy to do now I ask them to send Cod because that was It was easier for them to pay for it. But when I tell them they have arrived they say they can't afford it so I have to send it back and I have offered pay for the frieght and Cod cost out of my own pocket.

And for the ones I have sitting at the post office I would have had them all out by know but when you receive a tax bill of over $1000 you have to reoganise your budget which I have and I have made arrangement with the people letting them know when I am picking them up from the post office or early next year.

And they have had no problems with the arrangement we have made.
I bought a gts coupe of "Skaifehsv" and because she was very understanding and nice I am trying to see if I can help her sell some more of her models.

Iam not a bad collector Iam A new collector who is learning from his mistakes, Now I have list of about 90 cars that I want, which anyone will tell you is a huge ask to get. But I am trying. I am a person who will buy anything at the cheapest price and if I have to step on some toes, well I am sorry.BUT I TRY TO DO MY BEST TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO KEEP THE PEOPLE I BUY FROM HAPPY AS POSSIBLE.

When it comes to sold.com.au my eyes where bigger then my wallet and I have payed the price for this, The idea I had for sold.com.au was to get as many of the models I wanted nice and cheap and pay for them weekly over time I could not do his and I payed the price but next year will be different because I can afford to get 2 or 3 model car a month and I will only paying Money Orders which will keep every body happy I hope with no problem and will only be dealing in private sales because these people are easier and nice to deal with and are willing the discuss a price for there models.

To all model car collectors/sellers please don't judge me for my mistake because we all make mistakes And I have learnt the brutal way.

To the people who read this as you now know I am a very new and inexperienced collector who is trying to do the right thing buy everyone.

Could some please tell me the best way to store the boxes of they don't get damaged.

To Wynncau if want to bad mouth me fine I have explained my situation in detail and if you still want to then that tells me that you are a poor person or your the bad collector.
Not trying to be funny, but if you can't afford to get the moffat twin set when to gets released see the the great people of traffic collectables in Victoria they have some of the moffat twin set they my be able to help you.

THANKYOU :)

[BATHURSTFAN]

1. 'I found one cheaper" is not a reason to get out of buying a model YOU AGREED to buy. Thats the risk you take in entering a auction. YOU ELECTED TO BUY AT THAT PRICE - NOT THE SELLER.

A lot of people no doubt would have got something from the auctions and paid too much, but thats the risk. Prices will vary on demand.

2. Buy what you can afford and sort out what you want models you want FIRST.

Keep checking on this site for upcoming models and allocate your funds accordingly.

3. A lot of collectors on this site have the same problem - WE CAN ONLY AFFORD SO MUCH and do not buy everything we see - like you appeared to be doing and admitted that "your eyes were too big for your wallet".

4. There are a lot of hobby shops selling some cars BELOW retail price such as the 2000 Bathurst Winner for $100, I have heard others for as low as $75.00. Someone might be able to list these places.

www.gatewaymodels.com.au has a good list, but i don't use them myself.

[terrine]

heward555 (-4)

3 auctions with positive comments by 3 unique users
8 auctions with negative comments by 7 unique users

after reading this members form i had to have a read of the terms and conditions of using this service and i note the following points.

4. USE OF THE SERVICE
Sellers who refuse to sell, winning bidders and/or other buyers who refuse to pay or otherwise complete a sales transaction, and any other Members who abuse the Service or otherwise act contrary to the Terms & Conditions may be denied continued Membership at SOLD.com.au's sole discretion. SOLD.com.au cannot force sellers to sell their merchandise and cannot force bidders to purchase the merchandise successfully bid on.

7. RATINGS SERVICE
Negative feedback. Members will receive one warning email if their feedback record falls to -1 net negative ratings.. If a membership account accrues a -2 net negative feedback ratings, the account will be suspended from further activity.

well heward555............are you banned?

[diecastdude]

Well its a good story but I'm afraid I can't swallow it, to respond to three sellers with "I found one cheaper" and to another seller with "I offered to pay for return post but no reply"
(why would you bother to reply and get led along again) and to a third seller with
"he blamed me for missing out on a twin set and its not my problem"
I'm afraid thats it for 555, he's on my banned auctioneer list and probably a lot of others as well. There is a banned user I.D feature you know!

[HoldenMan]

Yes I have sent some back which not my fault people ask me to bid on sertain things fro them which I was happy to do now I ask them to send Cod because that was It was easier for them to pay for it. But when I tell them they have arrived they say they can't afford it so I have to send it back and I have offered pay for the frieght and Cod cost out of my own pocket.


Hey dave, i don't recall you ever offering to repay the cost of freight to me!!

What gets me is , how can you say to someonoe who "in good faith" has sent a model to you C.O.D, that you have recieved the model but yet the model is still at the GPO??? Personally i don't care about your peronal tax problems and this forum shouldnt be used to express this as such.

If you were serious about your "apparent" misjudgments, why dont you offer all those people who you ordered models from a refund of the postage that was burndend upon them because of your FOOLISH actions?????


I for one wouldn't mind getting my costs back!


Yours for consideration

PS. I wonder how many people have been burnt by you on the Biante Buy/swap/sell site? Afterall, that is where you ordered my model from! It would be intersesting to know exactly how many of us you have actually offered to pay backs postage costs..Cause i know for sure i havn't been compensated.

Anyone???

[heward555]

send me an email to what I am ment to owe you and I can then make arrangement to solve the problem.

[vx350]

Heward555 from what I have read from your reply you have really put your foot in it. I don't know how old you are but a good rule is never buy things if you don't have the cash, No wonder people aren't happy with you. I am not a big fan of all this buying and selling online but you can't screw people over like that. Its wrong.

[perry]

I certainly can relate to the "my eyes were bigger than my wallet" comment, i know ive been there before. But, if youve got a short list of 90 models you want, and yet your worried about a $1000 tax bill, my suggestion to you would be to re-prioritize your hobbies.

[wynncau]

I never intended this to be a run down session of one person that is why I didn't name him in my first posting. No doubt this guy has cheesed a lot of people off and in due course his name came out. I think this guy has learnt his lesson. I don't agree with what he has done and he has cost me money. I have to buy my cars from a shop, so when I sell them I only make $30-$40 dollars after costs of adds etc. That is what cheesed me off about this guy. The cost of selling this car plus postage both ways cost me about $30.00 In other words even now when I sell the car I make nothing.
As for missing out on the moffat set, I have a family and one income. I can only keep so much money tied up in my collection. That is why i sold this car to free up some cash. So yes he did make me miss the release of the Moffat twin set as now I don't have that money.
People now know about him and lets hope he has learnt his lesson, as I hope others that want to muck people around have taken note. Can I suggest we leave it there. Let us focus on the good side of model collecting and the good people we meet and there are plenty of them.

Happy collecting and have a great christmas.

Ps. Heward555 I will wait eagerly for my refund.

[HoldenMan]

send me an email to what I am ment to owe you and I can then make arrangement to solve the problem.


David,

As far as my e-mail address is concerned, I have a better idea.

Why don't you go through all your emails ( you remember what your email adress is?) and offer all those people who you have screwed a refund on their postage costs.


Least that way i genuinely know that you are honest in your previous quote that you are willing to pay costs.

Just send some e-mails dave, you never know your luck!

Oh, and in case you forgot what your e-mail address is i have included it here..... heward555@yahoo.com

Still waiting !!!


:mad:

[Aussiecollector]

Heward, try a tax bill of over $50K then you would have something to winge about

[perry]

Thats getting a little closer to "being concerned" Aussiecollector, but as i always say: "If i have a tax bill, i must be making money".

[Aussiecollector]

Sorry Perry, it was a throw away comment but the crap that H555 is spinning is absolute bollocks.

And your right I am not complaining.

Glenn

[perry]

Hey Glenn, lets hope santa brings us all $500,000 tax bills next year huh?
:)

[Andrew]

What makes me angry is that Heward555, whether he intended to or not, has cast suspicion on every private buyer/seller trading online, whether it be on ebay, sold.com, or Biante's own buy/sell/swap. I for one have used Biante's market place, purchasing a model C.O.D. (I refuse to purchase any other way as I don't want to be burnt by a seller). The chap I bought off was very happy as he didn't relinquish ownership of his model until I paid for it, and I didn't have the risk of losing my money from an unscrupulous 'collector' without the product in my hands. It is a system that, yes, relies on trust, but means that neither party loses out big time (although I feel for those collectors who have been stung by Heward555's non-payment).

So, my main message is, although Heward555 made a mistake (deliberate or otherwise - I'm not judging anyone), there still needs to be trust in order for this buyer/seller relationship to operate, and I hope that people continue to use C.O.D. for the transaction of their models - admittedly after thoroughly checking out the prospective purchaser/seller first.

And Heward555, whether you intended or not, despite your pleas for forgiveness after claiming a mistake, you have marked yourself out as a punter that no-one on the forums here will deal with. That is unfortunate perhaps, but we all deal with certain privations, and the 'eyes too big for the wallet' claim doesn't wash. It is a struggle all of us collectors deal with in our agonisation as to which models we can and can't afford. A bit of fiscal responsibility on your part would have saved you this public grilling.
If it genuinly was a mistake, then I feel sorry for you, but if not, then you lay in the bed you have made.

Thanks all for letting me put my two cents worth.

[diecastdude]

Public Grilling, I like that one !

[diecastdude]

1 of 1, heward555's head for the top of your cabinet, any takers,,, ok, ok I'll leave it at that.

[BATHURSTFAN]

perhaps with COD the purchaser should send a deposit to cover postage costs to ensure that costs are covered in case the parcel is not collected.

I know this would delay transactions but at least no one will be out of pocket.

I've never done COD myself.

[heward555]

I have made arrangement to repay the freight and postage cost to everyone I delt with, Don't keep mail,I read it, I reply to it if needed,or I print it out.

So if you don't send me an email I cant refund you your lose.


And all other readers I am never going to do cod again.

I am only going pay for a model with a money order.

[brchi17]

What about a direct deposit into peoples bank accounts ???

I've used this method many times when buying on sold.com.au when there hasn't been a facality for plastic cards. Once the money is in the account, its done. The model is in the mail, its' that simple !!!

Sure I might sound a little naive in suggesting paying for a model before it arrives, but its' really no different to placing a bid online or buying from a shop on the net - buyer beware, but it a risk we all choose to take when we bid on an item.

You can only take an item at its' value & trust that the people are doing the right thing (it a risk I know, but so is using this type of purchasing).

From my online purchasing expirences, its' a great to find that special model/s that you may have missed out on.

Like most things in life, it tends to be a very select few ignorant/advantageous abusers that spoil such things for the greater good of the masses.

cheers.

[heward555]

Direct Deposit is hard for me because the closes bank from is 25mins by car away from me and the only time go into that town is when I go to work. And having a post office up the road it is easier to money order.

[brchi17]

Originally posted by heward555
Direct Deposit is hard for me because the closes bank from is 25mins by car away from me and the only time go into that town is when I go to work. And having a post office up the road it is easier to money order.
Look,
I was putting up another suggestion of how good users of aution sites operate.

The be frank, I really couldn't give two hoots about your geographical issues with regards to this, as it doesn't justify the past actions.

Its people like you, who put doubt into peoples minds when using these sites, that causes people to stay away from using them.

Learn from your mistakes & do the right things to redeem yourself.

[heward555]

Your asked the question and I gave you the answer

I am currently trying to redeem myself by offering to buy at least 3 models of the people, next year now I am just waiting for there responses .

[brchi17]

So does this mean you want them to resend again those models you failed to pay for the first time ?

If this is the case you've really got a nerve.

If I was one of your victims, there's 'not a hope in hell' I'd fall for it a second time .

Thank God I'm not.