Darwin

[commanderwhite]

I'm going to up to Darwin on the 1/7 for 10 days for the V8's - anyone else?

[fordmad17]

Lucky u

[james]

Driving up on the 2nd back on the 8th.looking forward to a warm weekend.

[fordmad17]

How many hours does it take to drive from Alice Springs James

[barnart]

It is takes 61 songs on the Ipod from Melb to Darwin (Virginblue), I am not happy as I will be in Darwin on the 10th working, 3rd year in a row I have missed the Darwin round.

[james]

How many hours does it take to drive from Alice Springs JamesPre speed limit 9/10 hrs now it is 14/16 ,as we now have a points system not always a smart idea to push it.A 130 limit with a get you booked point at 7 to 15 over is 2points not sure on the money but don't want to pay for a tank or two of fuel to the govt coffers for them to send on nothing but their own self interest projects .

[james]

Time to pack the car for a SLOW trip to Darwin in the morning,am looking forward to the warmer evenings and nights as it has been rather chily down here of late.Time for my yearly dose of sunburn without even trying.Hope we have a good weekend of racing with several classes including the Touring car masters,V8 Utes and FF.

[sad]

I'm going to up to Darwin on the 1/7 for 10 days for the V8's - anyone else?

If you are here now i hope you have your earplugs and/or like fireworks.Its Territory (self government) day to day and as i type there are stacks of fireworks going off round the place.

[HRT 1-2]

Friday : Practice
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 9 3 1:10.8092
2 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Paul Morris Holden Commodore VE 8 5 1:11.0384 0:00.2292
3 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 7 7 1:11.0897 0:00.2805
4 12 Team BOC Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VE 4 4 1:11.1217 0:00.3125
5 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 7 4 1:11.1550 0:00.3458
6 16 Autobarn Racing Team Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 11 7 1:11.2668 0:00.4576
7 11 Jack Daniel's Racing Shane Price Holden Commodore VE 9 4 1:11.3467 0:00.5375
8 34 Valvoline Cummins Race Team Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 13 13 1:11.5579 0:00.7487
9 26 IRWIN Racing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 15 15 1:11.5701 0:00.7609
10 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon BF 13 10 1:11.8038 0:00.9946
11 50 PWR Performance Products Andrew Thompson Holden Commodore VE 14 14 1:12.0374 0:01.2282
12 021 Team Kiwi Racing Kayne Scott Ford Falcon BF 10 10 1:12.0596 0:01.2504
13 55 Rod Nash Racing Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 16 13 1:12.1137 0:01.3045
14 777 Ausdrill Ford Rising Stars Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 15 15 1:12.8839 0:02.0747

[HRT 1-2]

Friday : Practice
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 888 Team Vodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BF 13 3 1:10.4531
2 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 10 3 1:10.4798 0:00.0267
3 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BF 16 4 1:10.5329 0:00.0798
4 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BF 13 6 1:10.5372 0:00.0841
5 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon BF 16 8 1:10.6078 0:00.1547
6 88 Team Vodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon BF 14 5 1:10.6302 0:00.1771
7 1 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 12 5 1:10.6389 0:00.1858
8 4 Jeld-Wen Motorsport James Courtney Ford Falcon BF 10 10 1:10.8421 0:00.3890
9 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 13 8 1:10.8433 0:00.3902
10 111 Glenfords Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon BF 11 5 1:10.8470 0:00.3939
11 18 Jim Beam Racing Will Davison Ford Falcon BF 11 6 1:10.8663 0:00.4132
12 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 10 2 1:10.8723 0:00.4192
13 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VE 13 2 1:10.9915 0:00.5384
14 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 9 3 1:11.1012 0:00.6481
15 16 Autobarn Racing Team Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 12 3 1:11.1477 0:00.6946
16 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Paul Morris Holden Commodore VE 9 8 1:11.1961 0:00.7430
17 33 Valvoline Cummins Race Team Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 8 4 1:11.2291 0:00.7760
18 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 12 8 1:11.3362 0:00.8831
19 11 Jack Daniel's Racing Shane Price Holden Commodore VE 7 3 1:11.3779 0:00.9248
20 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 13 8 1:11.3792 0:00.9261
21 34 Valvoline Cummins Race Team Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 7 5 1:11.3923 0:00.9392
22 12 Team BOC Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VE 8 3 1:11.4680 0:01.0149
23 14 Team WOW Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 7 4 1:11.4982 0:01.0451
24 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon BF 12 11 1:11.9008 0:01.4477
25 26 IRWIN Racing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 12 2 1:12.0318 0:01.5787
26 50 PWR Performance Products Andrew Thompson Holden Commodore VE 12 2 1:12.0807 0:01.6276
27 55 Rod Nash Racing Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 16 7 1:12.3807 0:01.9276
28 777 Ausdrill Ford Rising Stars Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 16 13 1:12.6979 0:02.2448

[AmonFan]

Phil "Splitpin" Brock is 7th so far in the mighty Falcon XY GT in the 1st Qualifying session of the BTCM...Not the first time a Brock has been in a Ford ;)....Bowe fastest so far in the Tony Hunter Camaro...

[HRT 1-2]

Friday : Practice
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BF 25 21 1:09.7854
2 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VE 20 17 1:09.7876 0:00.0022
3 33 Valvoline Cummins Race Team Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 28 26 1:09.8323 0:00.0469
4 1 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 23 23 1:09.8880 0:00.1026
5 18 Jim Beam Racing Will Davison Ford Falcon BF 28 23 1:09.9013 0:00.1159
6 88 Team Vodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon BF 23 18 1:09.9384 0:00.1530
7 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon BF 32 26 1:09.9393 0:00.1539
8 888 Team Vodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BF 22 18 1:09.9586 0:00.1732
9 4 Jeld-Wen Motorsport James Courtney Ford Falcon BF 25 18 1:10.0145 0:00.2291
10 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 19 13 1:10.0547 0:00.2693
11 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon BF 25 20 1:10.1729 0:00.3875
12 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 19 18 1:10.2084 0:00.4230
13 11 Jack Daniel's Racing Shane Price Holden Commodore VE 28 22 1:10.2431 0:00.4577
14 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Paul Morris Holden Commodore VE 21 20 1:10.2692 0:00.4838
15 12 Team BOC Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VE 25 21 1:10.2715 0:00.4861
16 26 IRWIN Racing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 22 22 1:10.2727 0:00.4873
17 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 22 20 1:10.2743 0:00.4889
18 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BF 27 23 1:10.3116 0:00.5262
19 34 Valvoline Cummins Race Team Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 27 23 1:10.3532 0:00.5678
20 55 Rod Nash Racing Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 25 25 1:10.3743 0:00.5889
21 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 25 20 1:10.4323 0:00.6469
22 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 21 16 1:10.5689 0:00.7835
23 14 Team WOW Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 15 12 1:10.5807 0:00.7953
24 16 Autobarn Racing Team Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 21 15 1:10.6668 0:00.8814
25 111 Glenfords Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon BF 14 4 1:10.6869 0:00.9015
26 777 Ausdrill Ford Rising Stars Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 27 27 1:10.6980 0:00.9126
27 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 28 24 1:10.7577 0:00.9723
28 50 PWR Performance Products Andrew Thompson Holden Commodore VE 14 5 1:11.2067 0:01.4213
29 021 Team Kiwi Racing Kayne Scott Ford Falcon BF 19 3 1:12.1172 0:02.3318

[Holdennumber1]

Thanks for posting the results. Skaife seems to be up the top in the times, but it is only practice.

[gab73]

Gee a safety car for a dangerous flag.

[barnart]

Has team BOC got Bowe back or are they back in Fords?
I must say it is pleasing to see a team swap brands and go back down the feild as they did in the other brand. Changing brands dosen't fix a team which can't win.

[Kashmir]

didn't you post that in the other thread Lol

[barnart]

didn't you post that in the other thread Lol

Yes, but I meant to put it the Darwin thread as it was not a V8 rumour as it is a fact.

[monarocveightz]

Nice to see Richards getting away with being approx half a meter in front of Tander on the grid in Race 3 as shown by CH7's coverage.......yet no-one made a single comment.....:mad:

[malscar]

I see that no one picked Richards to win the round in the give away. Does this mean it carries over?

[group C]

Nice to see Richards getting away with being approx half a meter in front of Tander on the grid in Race 3 as shown by CH7's coverage.......yet no-one made a single comment.....:mad:

I thought i was seeing things there Codie,but you have just put my mind at ease and like you said not 1 comment made(not that it would of made a difference to the end result) the speed of FPR i think they might have nitros oxide in there washer bottles:D

[monarocveightz]

I thought i was seeing things there Codie,but you have just put my mind at ease and like you said not 1 comment made(not that it would of made a difference to the end result) the speed of FPR i think they might have nitros oxide in there washer bottles:D

I was with 3 other people watching the race.....including a Ford fan......they all said that Richards was a fair bit ahead of Tander also....

You never know....Tander may have got 2nd or 1st if it was even...........but yes....FPR were on fire....

[rex555]

Gee a safety car for a dangerous flag.

I thought that was absolute garbage, they used it as an excuse to 'engineer' some excitement into an otherwise dull race by bunching the field. Shows how low they are prepared to stoop to try to keep the racing close. I could hardly see the flag being hit by a car being dangerous to any one. The radiator support pannel was well off the racing line according to Steven Richards.

[wayno]

More and more like NASCAR every day. :rolleyes:

[CowboyMatt]

Was I seeing things or did the replay of the restart in Race 3 show Tander turn to the right out of turn 1 and take Whincup out?

Bit like Lowndes on Todd Kelly at Philip Island last year...

And what was the story about Paul Marris in Race 2 - according to Crompton 'he didn't accept the decision' (about the penalty), 'so it's now in the hands of the stewards and may be resolved after the meeting?'

What The?

I thought if you were given a penalty you were given a penalty.

[monarocveightz]

Was I seeing things or did the replay of the restart in Race 3 show Tander turn to the right out of turn 1 and take Whincup out?

Bit like Lowndes on Todd Kelly at Philip Island last year...

And what was the story about Paul Marris in Race 2 - according to Crompton 'he didn't accept the decision' (about the penalty), 'so it's now in the hands of the stewards and may be resolved after the meeting?'

What The?

I thought if you were given a penalty you were given a penalty.

Tander admitted what happened between him and Jamie was his fault, and was given a 12 point penalty

[HRT 1-2]

From the CAMS website: (The Skaife one gets my goat, you can drive carelessly into the back of someone, wreck their day and get a drive through when they're already out of the race)

2008 V8 Supercar Championship Series, Round 6, Darwin, 4th to 6th July 2008
4 Jul 2008


DOC NO: SD 02

2008 V8 SUPERCAR CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES – ROUND 6
Hidden Valley Raceway, Darwin, Northern Territory, 4th – 6th July 2008.

SUMMARY OF PENALTIES

STEWARDS UPDATE 5: 2000hrs Sunday 6th July

Further Matters arising from Race 2:

Following an investigation, it was alleged that Paul Morris Car #67 breached the Code of Driving Conduct, contact on Car #33 Lee Holdsworth. Mr Morris denied the breach. A Stewards Hearing will be held at Queensland Raceway, Friday 18th July 2008.

Following an investigation, it was alleged that Paul Morris Car #67 breached the Code of Driving Conduct, contact on Car #51 Greg Murphy. Mr Morris denied the breach. A Stewards Hearing will be held at Queensland Raceway, Friday 18th July 2008.



Matters arising from Race 3:

The Stewards imposed Pit Lane Penalties as follows:
• Car #3 Jason Richards for a driving infringement on Car #2 Mark Skaife at Pit Entry.
• Car #12 Andrew Jones for a driving infringement on Car #55 Tony D’Alberto at Turn 6.

Following an investigation and an admission by Garth Tander that he had driven in a careless manner, contact on Jamie Whincup, Car #88, the Stewards deducted 12 Championship Points from Garth Tander.




STEWARDS UPDATE 4: 1430hrs Sunday 6th July

Matters arising from Race 2:

The Stewards imposed a PLP on Car #9 Shane Van Gisbergen for a driving infringement on Car #18 Will Davison.

Following an investigation, it was alleged that Paul Morris Car #67 breached the Code of Driving Conduct, contact on Car #33 Lee Holdsworth. Mr Morris denied the breach. A Stewards Hearing is to be convened after Race 3 at a time to suit all parties.




STEWARDS UPDATE 3: 1730hrs Saturday 5th July

Matters arising from Race 1:

The Blue Flag was displayed to Car #2 Mark Skaife.
The Stewards imposed a PLP on Car #25 Jason Bright for a driving infringement on
Car #67 Paul Morris.



STEWARDS UPDATE 2: 1330hrs Saturday 5th July

Matters arising from Qualifying:

As consequence of causing a Red Flag during Leg 2 of Qualifying, Paul Dumbrell Car #16 was not permitted to take any further part in the Session.



STEWARDS UPDATE 1: 1700hrs Friday 4th July

Matters arising from Practice:

There were no issues.

[CowboyMatt]

'Mr. Morris denied the breach'

Imagine my surprise!!!

[CowboyMatt]

SUMMARY OF PENALTIES

STEWARDS UPDATE 5: 2000hrs Sunday 6th July



Matters arising from Race 3:


Following an investigation and an admission by Garth Tander that he had driven in a careless manner, contact on Jamie Whincup, Car #88, the Stewards deducted 12 Championship Points from Garth Tander.



Does the punishment fit the crime??

Whincup lost at least 5 places - I'm sure that's more than 12 points. Any ideas how they worked it out?

[brchi17]

Does the punishment fit the crime??

Whincup lost at least 5 places - I'm sure that's more than 12 points. Any ideas how they worked it out?

VESA have a big pin board with a list of possible penalties. They blindfold someone, spin them around 3 times and them get them to pin the drivers name at the most suitable penalty, job done & works a treat to boot ;)

[monarocveightz]

Does the punishment fit the crime??

Whincup lost at least 5 places - I'm sure that's more than 12 points. Any ideas how they worked it out?


He would have got a lighter punishment for admitting what he did

[CowboyMatt]

He would have got a lighter punishment for admitting what he did

Whay wasn't it a drive-through penalty???

[AMBER ROSE]

More and more like NASCAR every day. :rolleyes:

without the excitement though....

[monarocveightz]

Whay wasn't it a drive-through penalty???

I think the decision was fair enough...........Richards got away with being further ahead on the grid.......so call it even I guess...

[gab73]

I think the decision was fair enough...........Richards got away with being further ahead on the grid.......so call it even I guess...
What's Richards starting position have to do with the Whincup/Tander incident??

[monarocveightz]

What's Richards starting position have to do with the Whincup/Tander incident??

That was my attempt at sarcasm....forgot to place the;) smiley there....

Although Richards did get away with something that could have affected the outcome....just like Tander...

[BILLFORD1]

The start line controversy for race 3 seems to me to be a bit of a nothing story...Richo had his front tyres right on the white 'box line' whilst Garth had his back about 2 feet, hence the fact Richo was 'further forward'. By my calculations GT was way back from where he could/should have been ??? Even so, the car starting from pole position has the theoretical advantage on the run into turn 1....and he got sacked by the 2nd & 3rd placed cars by that point. The 5 car sure never started in front of him, so just too slow on the reflexes !! Onward....

[Oh Five]

I really like the hard hitting questions that Danielle Gibbon;) asks. Like on the grid when he asks the pole sitter "whats your plan from here". uuummmmm well i think i might try and get off the line as clean as i can and keep in front of the other dudes behind me!!!! DERRRR:rolleyes:

[group C]

Whay wasn't it a drive-through penalty???

Because it was looked at after the race as you heard 888 tell Whincup that they were going to get it looked at.
CL also wanted GT to yeild for him complaining that he was blocking,???? how can it be blocking when CL was 1-2 car lenghts behind (I think CL has been doing alot of this complaining of late)

[Holdennumber1]

The start line controversy for race 3 seems to me to be a bit of a nothing story...Richo had his front tyres right on the white 'box line' whilst Garth had his back about 2 feet, hence the fact Richo was 'further forward'. By my calculations GT was way back from where he could/should have been ??? Even so, the car starting from pole position has the theoretical advantage on the run into turn 1....and he got sacked by the 2nd & 3rd placed cars by that point. The 5 car sure never started in front of him, so just too slow on the reflexes !! Onward.... I noticed that aswell. It seems strange that the pole position car had to start behind another car. If garth had been a few metres further forward, he probably would have had his nose right next to Richo's back wheel been able to sneak down the inside.

[HRT 1-2]

without the excitement though....

Matter of opinion...........ok if you want to get dizzy!!:rolleyes2:

[CowboyMatt]

Because it was looked at after the race as you heard 888 tell Whincup that they were going to get it looked at.


What was so different about this incident and so many others where the offending driver subsequently gets assessed the equivalent of a drive-through penalty after the race? (as an example - the Courtney incident on Murphy in Race 1 at Adelaide).

Wait a minute - the guilty party was an HRT driver - silly me!!! ;)

(And yes - I'm joking).

[brchi17]

It's an interesting call on the Tander turn 1 thingy. The only logical reason I can think of for this penalty is that perhaps Garth did open up the steering mid corner to deliberately push Jamie wide. Knowing that the cars have data loggers which record this sort of stuff it could explain why he was so honest in admitting fault in this instance :confused:

What I also find beyond laughable is all the incidents regarding Paul Morris which have to be heard come the next round at Queensland??? Surely he's not that unlucky that he's been the innocent victim in all of them....

[wayno]

Even my red eyes thought Tander looked dodgy. I think the pressure is getting to him as he realises that without a serious improvement in performance that his title defence is doomed.
The Holden teams simply have to learn to keep tyres under the car as well as the Ford guys (especially 888) do.

[commanderwhite]

Wayno - I think you are dead on the money tyres are becoming a problem for Holden & until their engineers get their heads out of the a---s they will be running a long way behind the dark side for the rest of the year.

I was up there & all the talk in the pits from Holden guys was how fast the dark side are - well I suggest they stop whinging about it & get stuck into it.

Otherwise I had a great time & really enjoyed my time up there - they sure know how to turn on an event in the NT & how to treat us racefans - the southern states should attend Hidden Valley & see how it can be done without ripping off us fans.

$70 - 3 day Super Pass included Pit Entry
Food outlets that you could actually had taste & the prices were not over the top
Drink outlets all over the place
Free bus to & from the track
Lots of covered areas which were free including grandstands
Tables & Chairs supplied
Top support program
Great off track entertainment
Overall top event run by friendly staff in bloody fantastic weather

Won't be the last time I attend Hidden Valley that's for sure

[barnart]

A good mate from Darwin phoned me tonight to say that the track lights have just been turned off as Skaife has just finished race 3.

[Kashmir]

smart arse..........:rolleyes:

[barnart]

smart arse..........:rolleyes:

Not very nice :mad:

[XTRALO]

A good mate from Darwin phoned me tonight to say that the track lights have just been turned off as Skaife has just finished race 3.

And your mate stayed back for this?
Waiting for an autograph maybe?

[Tumbo]

Skaife finished woot! there you go to all the ppl knocking him he does still have it :p

[barnart]

And your mate stayed back for this?
Waiting for an autograph maybe?

No he runs the Darwin Bus company and a bus driver went past and noticed that the lights had been turned off and Skaife had finished

[GOBBO]

ha ha ha that is pretty funny

[Oh Five]

what a rib tickler.

[HRT 1-2]

A good mate from Darwin phoned me tonight to say that the track lights have just been turned off as Skaife has just finished race 3.

Nah that wasn't the lights, they finally got the fire out on brows BBQ!!:p

[Oh Five]

:laugh4:

[james]

Home from the races another great weekend in Darwin,love the weather at this time of the year in Darwin, the scenery was up to its usual high standard as was the racing and the party time in the city it was packed every night.

[HRT 1-2]

Gunna have to do this round one year but, I think I'll probably be getting to Townsville first!!