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Yes, we have a 'garage full' of models.... When the company was first commenced we lived in a large 3 level house with the top floor devoted to model cars. I did not venture up there a great deal, but Trevor managed to take it over. The basement was the garage, and a number of real cars lived there.
Like most model collectors, we needed more space...so we purchased acreage and built a larger house with sep garages for 1:1 cars - currently 10 at home and another building which is actually a 4 br. house shape with no internal walls. The models are currently being unpacked from crates (and crates, and crates!!) and placed into the cabinets. It gets hot in Perth, so summer is not a comfortable time to be doing this. Small details like this do not get in Trevor's way, so the model area is having air cond. installed.
Oh, and since that article there have been more 1:1 cars arrive..
Bev
Have you ever considered creating a museum or similar so us mad collectors can drool over your substantial collection. I'm sure most people would be happy to pay an entry fee for the privilige.
-Pille-
13-02-2003, 03:42 PM
That museum idea sounds cool - you should really think about it. :) Hmmm, now, when's the next plane leaving...
-Pille-
Ford Boy
13-02-2003, 07:33 PM
bev, what are the 1:1 cars you own??
Around and about we have the following:-
current Monaro CV8 - Trevor's work runner
Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd V8 - my shopping trolley and work runner
SLR 5000
XC Cobra 8000 something klms #166
Citroen AK400 van )
Citroen 2CV Charleston ) My toy cars - almost literally
Mercedes 400SEL - for when you want to room with 4 doors
A9X Torana Hatchback
E49 Charger - not being restored - is already immac.
L34 Torana
Phase 3 GTHO
XU1 Torana
CV8 Monaro
48-215 Holden - oldest in WA
Brock VL Group A
XC Cobra - Bathurst #30
plus James Brocks #22 Future Tourer, which is now over East.
All are unmodified except for first car, which has had full workover by Brock's carbuilders and has similar specs to Targa car
plus MTD ride on mower that the boys said they would work on - maybe the grass would get cut faster!!!!
There is one more car on the shopping list, but good ones are hard to find......still the fun is in the search...
Other non daily-cars we have owned:-
Mark 2 Jaguars
E-Type Jaguars, Series 1 fhd, Series. 11 roadster and Series 111 V12 fixed head
Ferrari 308
plus daily drivers
various Mercedes Benz
Mini Cooper S
all sorts of Holdens
We belong to lots of Car Clubs and sometimes we get time to go on club events, that are not staged during Nuremberg Toy Fair or various race meetings through the year.
Ford Boy
14-02-2003, 02:07 PM
WELL!!!! arent i quite the jealous little boy!!! what a collection! would be a wonderful sight to see!!!
ferrari fan
14-02-2003, 02:56 PM
There are here in Perth quit a few serious (carmodel) collectors that have amazzed a collection worthy of a museum on all sorts of subjects or brand related.
Just makes me wonder what is out there in the rest of Australia?
indeed the rest of the world :confused:
Bev,
do you know of anyone with a Indy Orange HG GTS 350 Monaro who wants to sell it?
Highlander
14-02-2003, 05:48 PM
Bev ,Could you please Post some Pics of your E49.I for one would love to see Them.
Cheers
Nick Short
14-02-2003, 09:20 PM
That's well on the way to being a definitive collection of Aussie classic muscle! Wow! What colour's the E49? And I'm trying to guess what's left on your wish list......Any ideas out there?
mainforcepatrol
14-02-2003, 09:37 PM
two cobras? that's just not fair!!
BATHURSTFAN
14-02-2003, 10:22 PM
What about that person in the Australian Muscle Car magazine with all those cars in the chook shed?
I couldn't get over that!
Nick Short
15-02-2003, 01:46 AM
And David Bowden of course. I don't know how many private collections there are in Oz, but B and T's must be one of the best in terms of classic Aussie muscle. Bit disappointed not to see any classic Pommy muscle on the list, like the Austin Allegro....
Graeme
15-02-2003, 12:32 PM
Could Nick be referring to cars like the Vauxhall HB Viva Brabham edition, a notable example of classic sixties British muscle.
Holden, in it's questionable wisdom, did create two and four door HB Torana versions of the Brabham, but I can't recall when I last clapped eyes on one.
Still, although they don't excite, one could possibly argue that the Brabham was the first example of a specific sports-designated Holden model, available in 'S' or 'SL' variants, and precurser to the GTS and GTR big guns.
Anyone got this classic on their shopping list ....probably not !!
Nick Short
15-02-2003, 08:09 PM
I was being tongue in cheek.....Yes, our cars tended to lack muscle (think Capri 1100...)but tried to look tough, although TVR and their Speed 12 (7.7 litre 1000hp V12)tried harder than most. Lister, Aston Martin, and of course Lotus (Carlton, fastest 4 door in the world at 177 mph)did their bit as well. Going back, the GT40 was a British car, despite what the Americans say (derived from a Lola, built in Slough, taken over after 2 years by Shelby USA, but then run from Slough again for '68 and '69) and a Lola T70 IIIB in road trim set the world's fastest acceleration times (almost McLaren F1 fast) in 1974. None of them cheap though, unlike the fantastic Aussie heritage of affordable muscle. And that's why I have an XC Cobra and not an Aston Martin!
ferrari fan
15-02-2003, 08:17 PM
I actualy found in an opshop in Albany a manifold with the name brabham cast in it.
I did not know what it was of but have since found out that it is of a Vaxhaul brabham marketed in U.K.
Nick Short
16-02-2003, 06:40 PM
Ferrari Fan, you should have bought it - they're very collectable, even though they're not exactly high performance! Advertised on eBay UK it would have been snapped up....
mmazz30
16-02-2003, 08:33 PM
Hey Bev!
An E49 in your collection.....hmm
Wouldn't be the car to be modelled for the 1:18?
The one we have been waiting for ages?:D
Grubby
17-02-2003, 02:22 PM
Geez.........I have only been to Perth once but would make the long trek again to look at a collection like that Bev.
Cheers
Grubby
Esses
17-02-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Graeme
Could Nick be referring to cars like the Vauxhall HB Viva Brabham edition, a notable example of classic sixties British muscle.
Holden, in it's questionable wisdom, did create two and four door HB Torana versions of the Brabham, but I can't recall when I last clapped eyes on one.
Still, although they don't excite, one could possibly argue that the Brabham was the first example of a specific sports-designated Holden model, available in 'S' or 'SL' variants, and precurser to the GTS and GTR big guns.
Anyone got this classic on their shopping list ....probably not !!
Don't forget, from the dizzy fuel-injected, multi-cam & valve heights of '03, that the HB's were a product of the 60's, & were trying to marry style, space, economy & a teensy bit of performance all in a compact, affordable package.
The Brabham's were Holden's first attempt at a small "performance" car - more of an image builder, really - but from them grew the immortal GTRs & XU-1s, using the same floorpan, interior & much of the suspension. The car mags of the time went nuts for the HB, doing up several "specials", while even in standard form, a "70-series" (68.9 bhp from 70 ci) would do over the equivalent Cortina ( I have the relevant Comparo somewhere in the mess) not to mention 4-coil suspension & with the 70-series pack, standard front power disc brakes, which worked very well. I recall comprehensively outbraking a HR disc brake equipped EH in my HB all night, one memorable night.
The last thing to remember is that the local HB was MUCH heavier than the Vauxhall. Why? Because Holden literally cracked one in half during back-roads testing & nearly doubled metal guages in the quest for strength. They ended up with a very comfortable, well handling (on radials) little car that was also great on rough dirt roads. Ah, memories. Bottom line is, the rarest Torana ever is the Brabham. I've only ever seen ONE.
ferrari fan
17-02-2003, 09:05 PM
Nick ;I did buy this manifold and I do like it as it has the name Brabham cast in raised letters and is in great condition.
I did not know what it was of and even fantasised that it would be of a real racecar, but after looking at many pics I do know now better.
This piece is now situated next to another real part of a unique racecar ;namely a front A frame arm (bottom) of the Tyrell P34 6 wheeler signed by J.Scheckter (years ago) I believe the only spare part of this car in a non car/ team possesion.
Nick Short
17-02-2003, 09:31 PM
You're obviously a guy who is in the right place at the right time! A very nice find.....My mate is an obsessive about the 6 wheeler and will be very jealous.....
ferrari fan
18-02-2003, 06:44 AM
The 6 wheeler has been modelled many a time and none better than the Exoto series.
I also do have the EIDAI 1/20 with the red wheels in my possesion which ,I am told ,is a VERY sought after model for the 6 wheeler collectors.
these cars do have a meaning for me as it was at that time I was following F1 . and thought that this was very cleaver indeed.
Graeme
18-02-2003, 09:58 PM
I wonder if the manifold possessed by FFan has the name 'BRABHAM' cast in raised letters along both carbie induction tubes - if it's got the twin castings, then it has to be a Brabham Torana manifold. The little engine ran twin sidedraught Stromberg carbies with little 'pancake' filters as opposed to the single item on the Series70 and the downdraught Zenith of the standard engine.
Also, just to add to the rarity angle, there was more than one version of the Brabham Torana. The two door HB Torana range first went on sale in May 1967 with 1159cc and 56 bhp and in three forms, standard, S, and SL. At some point in early/mid 1968, the Series70 and Brabham options were made available on the S and SL models. With the Brabham, you got the exclusive twin carb version of the Series70 engine with 79 bhp and a modified exhaust system, front disc brakes and four inch rims with 6.20 x 12 'redwall' tyres. Visually, you got the black centre bonnet stripe and discreet 'Brabham' badges on the leading edges of the front guards.
Early in 1968, a four door body was also added to the range, but in September there appeared a "Series 2" or "1969 model" HB Torana range which visually featured round dash instruments.
With this change, the Brabham became more of a stand-alone two door model with more features and bolder body badges. Inside it featured what later became the LC Torana GTR instrument cluster and the GTR/GTS steering wheel. Outside, it wore a black stipe set across it's nose and down the leading edge of the front guards, much like the Chev Camaro SS of the times.
Come October 1969, we saw the new LC Torana range complete with six cylinder engine options, and thereby the quiet departure of the Brabham Torana.
For those curious about car prices, in mid-1968 the Torana S listed at $1890 and the Brabham S at $2106. By comparison, the much-loved Datsun 1600 (with 96bhp) listed at $2050.
ferrari fan
19-02-2003, 06:32 AM
Yes it has the name cast along the inlettubes with a connecting tube in the middle with two nipples on this as well.
the tubes do a 90 deg. bend.
on the other side of the one tube there is an arrow obviously for the correct way of installation.
As I mentioned before ,I did not know what it was of exactly
it is just an interesting piece with the RIGHT name on it:)
I am always on the lookout for this sort of kit.
this is why the PLAGUE 77 is such a great piece to have!
By the way ,I also do have a 186/202 twin manifold complete with twin stromberg carbies, an other ,a bit unusual, setup.
KiwiRallyFan
19-02-2003, 06:58 AM
Ferrari Fan...I think you mean "plaque". The "plague" is not really a good thing to have!
KRAKA05
19-02-2003, 10:15 AM
My old mans first car was a 69 Torana HB. (Yes he was a late starter). I learnt to drive in the HB, so did my brother and then after 21 years of trouble free driving, she started to show hear wear and tear.
Power from the 4 was very light-on and the gearbox was a bit of a clunker. She was a pretty nice ride other than that...ie reliable
In the end we sold her with a rusted out floor for $300.:)
wombat
19-02-2003, 02:34 PM
My first car was a 69 two door HB.
Had a big hole in the top muffler which was repaired with that muffler tape. Sounded like a chaff cutter.
I vividly recall having nine blokes (solid 17 y/o's) in her one night and struggling to negotiate anything steeper than a kerb.
Pulled the gear box off once and used one of those kits to repair it. One of the rods inside had lumps of metal welded to it from the inside of a cog.
Great car. Bought it in 1978 for $300. Sold it in 1980 for $350 and she was USED.:D
Esses
19-02-2003, 07:12 PM
Graeme, your detail knowledge of the old HB's is astounding. Everything you mentioned is correct. Did you know that the 4-door mod. was an Australian "invention", not Vauxhall?
My HB was a '67 model, though it later scored a '69 twin-dial dash, which was a cast-iron b**** to fit, especially the speedo cable, but looked much better than the old dash.
Mine was also unusual in one other regard (apart from all the usual boy-racer gear) in that it was an automatic. I inherited it from my big sister, you see, & she couldn't ( & can't ) drive.
It was the only Holden of the time, & for many years afterwards, to use a NON-GM transmission. To wit, the good old Borg-Warner 35, no less. While this did "blunt" what little acceleration it had, given time it would wind out to the vicinity of 90 mph. It matched the afore-mentioned EH (also an auto, the Hydra-matic) for top speed, if not acceleration.
Graeme
19-02-2003, 11:03 PM
Right on the button Steve... As with the Camira wagon in the eighties, Holden engineered the four door version of the HB Torana and achieved an integrated look with only a five inch (10cm) shortening of the front doors, compared to the two door model.
I imagine there weren't huge numbers of auto transmission versions sold, but it was a listed option except for the Brabham and added an extra $260 to the price - that's almost 15% extra on the price of a Torana S !!
The three speed auto featured a floor console similar to that found as standard in the manual transmission SL models, and also a simple looking manual-type gearstick. Steve, I gather that there was no 'button lockout' on the shift and you could therefore operate the gearlever much like a manual shift, if you so desired?
Esses
20-02-2003, 06:24 PM
Graeme, the HB had the weirdest auto gear change I've ever seen. It seemed to be an imitation Merc. zig-zag shift, with a conventional knob on the stick, no lockout button.
The sequence went: P, R, N, D, L. From Park you went left & back to Reverse, then half right & back to neutral, then (I think) half right again & back to Drive, then a definite left & back to "Lockup".
Yep, Lockup, not Low, or 2 & 1. The idea was, whatever gear you were in, if you pulled it back manually that "Locked" you in that gear. Alternatively, if you started out in L, it stayed in first until you shifted to D, then if you wanted it to stay in second you had to quickly whip it back to L! And so on. It could catch you out if you shifted back to second, then stamped it & it kicked back automatically to first, but you had the shifter in L, so there it would stay, & scream! Luckily, the 6000 rpm redline saved you most times.Confusing? Only the first few (hundred) times!
biante5485
15-07-2003, 03:24 PM
There is one of these running around Kalgoorlie somewhere!!!
(My old location)
in1way
16-07-2003, 08:54 PM
All this talk about HB Toranas got me searching for the last 2 pics I took of my HB.
I owe my life to the strength of this little bugger, it was T-boned by a Morris Major (one of those pommie cars made out of 1/4" plate) at what the police estimate at no less than 60mph as it was in those days.
Here's the 1st pic.....
in1way
16-07-2003, 08:56 PM
........and the second pic!!!
This thread commenced before the great unpacking... We turned this building from 'storage central' to 'model and party central' during Autumn between race meetings, Targa, etc.
This was the venue for the Biante Model Cars Australian Historic Touring Cars (they insist the full title is used) drivers and family/ friends who accompanied them to Barbagello, gathering. We also had a few original historics drivers and wives present.
Background shows some of the cabinets for 1:43 models. Visitors pre-shop fit at Triking Model Cars will remember some being in the corner of the store - on loan from Trevor.
When all the 1:1 cars are back inside will take some more pics.
Another angle in 'model room'
frosty
17-07-2003, 10:36 AM
Bev,
Can you tell us who some of the people in the photo are?
the pictures are coming - sure Trevor is doing something more important than checking me idling away on the forums - actually its the first time I've ever posted pics, so wanted to see how it works. Richard did the scans for me, which means it will already in the correct format, so we are half way there.
Anyway while clicking around, lost my half written post for the next pic.
Life at the Young household is 'not all party' - here Mr. Brock is giving the GM of AutoArt the lowdown on the next Brock Collection model....
the people in the pic - historics.5 above are -
standing l-r - Trevor, Mark Barbour (sec AHTCA), P. Brock
seated l-r part obs. Bob Forbes, Joyce Forbes, Dick Johnson, Jill Johnson, Steve Chalker (DJR Manager)
the_goldie
17-07-2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by bev
Life at the Young household is 'not all party' - here Mr. Brock is giving the GM of AutoArt the lowdown on the next Brock Collection model....
Thanks for the pics Bev. Any hints on what the next Brock model will be ;)
:D Who's the chap wearing the k-mart jacket talking to Brocky. They both look like they've had a hard night. Photo 4.
Hi Biante,
Any chance we could get some high quality pics of the Biante family 1:1 scale collection, perhaps place them on the Biante Website (as opposed to the discussion forum).
Its always nice to see mint condition or original cars. it particularly helps with restoration projects.
As a matter of interest, i'd love to see the Falcon Cobras, Falcon Phase 3, Toranas and the E49.
Cheers
1. Goldie, was not 'eavesdropping' on the conversation, so did not find out what next model is.
2. Forgot there is one 'party animal' at our place. Here he is after having his model signed by Dick. Raz does not worry about mint condition, boxed or cabinets, just chew 'em and leave 'em where people can trip on 'em. Needless to say he has his own model collection! His photo album is not bad though.
V8SS - This is the General Manager of AutoArt in China, who came down with another engineer for the week to do more research.
z605 - Will try to get pics of all the important cars for the site, meantime here are some parked outside while we clean out their house. 1:1 with opening bonnets!!!!
brchi17
17-07-2003, 12:26 PM
Looks like a who's who of the Australian motorsport !!!
the_goldie
17-07-2003, 12:40 PM
The white A9X looks very nice! Nice collection.
brchi17
17-07-2003, 12:46 PM
Now that pic remindes me of at least one Biante model I've seen before - good way to get some good tax deductions !!!
I like the Phase 3, now I just wished I had a real one to go with my model !!!
cheers. :)
Damian
17-07-2003, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by the_goldie
The white A9X looks very nice! Nice collection.
I would'nt mind any of those four. Even the old Humpy.
Regards
Damian
KiwiRallyFan
17-07-2003, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by bev
1. Goldie, was not 'eavesdropping' on the conversation...
Bev and Goldie, I think I can figure it out for you...
PB: "Gee mate, I'd really love a 1:18 model of the 78 Bathurst Torana with full tobacco signage..."
AutoArt GM: "Well Pete, we're this close to getting it done."
:)
admin
17-07-2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Damian
I would'nt mind any of those four. Even the old Humpy.
Regards
Damian
The 'old humpy' is the best one there...car #2, never been restored.
I can't look at this stuff any longer .... very, very nice
Grubby
19-07-2003, 07:15 AM
Very nice Bev.
Your collection of 1:1 cars ( cars shown ) is very impressive.
How big is your 1:1 collection. Maybe some more pics.
Grubby
Sorry for bringing up an old thread but I wonder if Bev or Trev have added to their awesome 1:1 collection at all in the last 6 months. Any news or pics guys?
Sorry no additions to the Classic Collection of late. Couple of changes in the daily driving department, but otherwise most 'spare time' during this time taken with new building.
Thanks for the reply Bev. Have fun in Germany.
admin
02-03-2004, 09:34 PM
Well, while in Germany slaving away there was another thread re new additions.
The elusive Warwick Yellow HK Monaro (top of the shopping list) was discovered and purchased. Just before returning another original VB Commodore S/LE was loaded into a car transporter interstate.
A silver Chrysler Crossfire has been added to the daily driver list and the red Monaro found a new home in Sydney some time back.
Gee I thought I spent up big on a couple of model cars and teddy bears in Europe!!!!!
Bev Young:rolleyes:
Glen Alexander
03-03-2004, 10:14 AM
Your 1:1 collection just gets batter and better doesn't it?!!! See what happens when you leave Trev home by himself!!! :D
brchi17
03-03-2004, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by admin
....Gee I thought I spent up big on a couple of model cars and teddy bears in Europe!!!!!
So Bev, what elusive models did you purchase on your European trip ???
We've seen Richards pics of the Enzo in the New Model Showroom (http://www.biante.com.au/showroom.cfm?mode=detail s&ID=94) & i was wondering some of the other's were ???
Also, if the Trev's Red Monaro has gone, what'll he have now as his toy for Sunday driving :D ???
cheers. :)
Leigh
03-03-2004, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by brchi17
Also, if the Trev's Red Monaro has gone, what'll he have now as his toy for Sunday driving :D ???
The Crossfire
Trevor's purchase of the HK Monaro was the elusive model. He has been wanting one of those for ages.
I just purchased several 1:87 Mercedes CLK coupe models, some 2CV stuff, few silk scarves from Musuem shops, and some teddy bears. A Bing 'Titanic sailor', and Audi bear in his racesuit, to match all the other makes, a Michael Schumacher bear that I did not have, a Toyota F1 bear, Laura Ashley bear and received a Ford Bear that was part of the Autoart Europe display that was a gift.
Ordered some more but they will come later in the year.
Richard took loads of pics, but has been too busy to post. Mine are mostly panorama on film, which need to be scanned. Everyone here has been too busy to do anything with them yet.
Maybe after the GP.
Trevor now has the Crossfire but drives that anytime depending on the passenger and cargo requirements.
Might see you at the Grand Prix. :)
brchi17
03-03-2004, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by bev
...Might see you at the Grand Prix. :)
I gave Richard has my mobile # last week, so I think he's going to give me a buz sometime on Friday if he get's a spare minute.
Then again, if you need help taking all those pic's of the new racecars I'll have my digi & SLR there, so just give us a bell.
cheers. :)
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