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Garry
16-09-2010, 04:03 PM
Just taken delivery of this model and would like offer some precautionary advise to those that are purchasing this model. DO NOT try to open the boot, it does NOT open, only the fuel flap opens, this is how the car raced.

Garry

smokey_dj
16-09-2010, 04:10 PM
LOL!!!!!!

who broke it garry was it you :p

and thank you for the heads up

Damage
16-09-2010, 04:15 PM
lol, did you break the boot spoiler off Gaz?

Edit: Snap.

Ghost Rider
16-09-2010, 04:16 PM
Thanks Garry I would of thought I had a faulty one.

murf
16-09-2010, 07:29 PM
Hi Garry will be there tomorrow to pick one up i hope

david5
16-09-2010, 08:13 PM
Just taken delivery of this model and would like offer some precautionary advise to those that are purchasing this model. DO NOT try to open the boot, it does NOT open, only the fuel flap opens, this is how the car raced.

Garry

How did they get the stuff in the boot then ?

VE II
16-09-2010, 08:14 PM
How did they get the stuff in the boot then ?

Attached to floor/undercarriage... or maybe its empty?

Garry
17-09-2010, 10:43 AM
lol, did you break the boot spoiler off Gaz?

Edit: Snap.

No, I opened the booklet first, and read the destructions which is most unusual for me.
The bonnets on the ones I have inspected with the customer take a little more pressure to open..... a little sticky....

Nothing under #1200 either.

malscar
17-09-2010, 11:09 AM
Just taken delivery of this model and would like offer some precautionary advise to those that are purchasing this model. DO NOT try to open the boot, it does NOT open, only the fuel flap opens, this is how the car raced.

Garry

So how do you get the Marlboro signage on the underside of the boot lid? Part of the 'r,l & b' show on the underside of the fuel flap.

fatty
17-09-2010, 11:11 AM
Just curious, What would fellow members prefer? An opening boot or an opening fuel filler. Me personally I'm not sure as I dont display models with any parts open but like looking at the detail of the models.

malscar
17-09-2010, 11:17 AM
For the money being charged, and what has previously been offered in the way of detail, then this would be considered a backwards step.

Maybe they were unable to source any photos of the boot setup of the car from '82 and therefore instead of a fantasy boot, if you cant open it then you can't point out the inaccuracies.

david5
17-09-2010, 11:27 AM
Would it be kept shut to hide the woefully inaccurate slope of the boot ? And just to keep my many fans on the CC forum, the opening boot on the Biante VL shows the missing upwards slope on its boot.

malscar
17-09-2010, 11:41 AM
Are you allowed back over there Dave?:p

Garry
17-09-2010, 11:49 AM
Obviously, it's easier to open a 'can of worms' than a boot lid. :0

OK, reading from the enclosed booklet;

Features of the model.

'Carefully lift the fuel filler flap in the boot lid to releal the fuel port below. The boot lid is fixed, just like it was in 1982'.


Garry

monarocveightz
17-09-2010, 02:23 PM
Obviously, it's easier to open a 'can of worms' than a boot lid. :0

OK, reading from the enclosed booklet;

Features of the model.

'Carefully lift the fuel filler flap in the boot lid to releal the fuel port below. The boot lid is fixed, just like it was in 1982'.


Garry

Surely HDT wouldn't have had it sealed completely shut though?....wouldn't they have had it accessable in case something went wrong inside....?

david5
17-09-2010, 10:43 PM
Surely HDT wouldn't have had it sealed completely shut though?....wouldn't they have had it accessable in case something went wrong inside....?

Exactly right, all it means is they had the flap so they didn't need to open the boot in the pit stops, why would you make it impossible to get at your fuel system.

Road Runner 72
17-09-2010, 10:49 PM
Duke of hazzard style brock car then?

AmonFan
18-09-2010, 06:50 AM
Exactly right, all it means is they had the flap so they didn't need to open the boot in the pit stops, why would you make it impossible to get at your fuel system.

It was open by the end of 83 ;)

david5
18-09-2010, 07:48 AM
It was open by the end of 83 ;)

Did you have a cubby house in there ?? ;)

AmonFan
18-09-2010, 07:54 AM
Did you have a cubby house in there ?? ;)

Yep, pretty much ;) I think it may have had pins holding it down, i'll dig out the Salamander photos..

malscar
18-09-2010, 08:09 AM
Wonder how the rear shocks got changed? lol

v8superman
18-09-2010, 08:53 AM
For the money being charged, and what has previously been offered in the way of detail, then this would be considered a backwards step.

isnt that the same argument with Biante's planned Resin Moulds?

El Cheapo
18-09-2010, 08:59 AM
isnt that the same argument with Biante's planned Resin Moulds?

Umm no.

Resin is a superior material to diecast in that it has more malleability and therefore can replicate the shapes and lines more accurately. Hence Spark's et al and their pricing and popularity.

You're talking about sealed diecast metal models.

Like others, I've got a hard time believing that the bootlid was sealed on the real car..

malscar
18-09-2010, 09:00 AM
No.

Classic already have the mould etc for the basic shell which has the boot opening.

Biante's resin stuff has not been done before. The thing I have against the Biante resin cars is the price. If you look up www.otto-models.com (http://www.otto-models.com) the cars on there are all but one car 1/18 resin. Top quality, low numbers and only Euro45 ish. A bit of a difference to the planned $250! that Biante are proposing.

v8superman
18-09-2010, 09:06 AM
Umm no.

Resin is a superior material to diecast in that it has more malleability and therefore can replicate the shapes and lines more accurately. Hence Spark's et al and their pricing and popularity.

You're talking about sealed diecast metal models.

Like others, I've got a hard time believing that the bootlid was sealed on the real car..


try be a little more condesending next time.

thanks for that address malscar. I will jump on and have a look.

Clifty
18-09-2010, 09:08 AM
The boot had transmitters for race-cam hidden inside it didn't it? I didn't think it was so much as sealed, more that that opening it would have needed a 7 technician to patch leads back in.

Haven't seen any photos of the model yet, does it have the aerial through the boot lid?

v8superman
18-09-2010, 09:11 AM
Yes it does have a secondary aerial that comes from the boot.

malscar
18-09-2010, 09:11 AM
Clifty, photos that have been posted in the new purchase thread show the model with a aerial on the mid/left side of the boot lid just like the real car.

edit - snap to V8superman lol

AmonFan
18-09-2010, 09:17 AM
The boot had transmitters for race-cam hidden inside it didn't it? I didn't think it was so much as sealed, more that that opening it would have needed a 7 technician to patch leads back in.

Haven't seen any photos of the model yet, does it have the aerial through the boot lid?

Are you a former/current owner of group C and A Commie's Clifty?

v8superman
18-09-2010, 09:18 AM
looks like the car is in the possession of Peter Champion... http://www.championsbrockexperience.com.au/race/82 _holden_VH.htm

perhaps someone could make contact with him to confirm what he knows of the boot and the way it was raced at Bathurst that year.

Damage
18-09-2010, 09:30 AM
looks like the car is in the possession of Peter Champion... http://www.championsbrockexperience.com.au/race/82 _holden_VH.htm

perhaps someone could make contact with him to confirm what he knows of the boot and the way it was raced at Bathurst that year.

I think there are about 50 odd people you could/should ask before PC. Although, given that he recently smashed it, he may know a little more about what opens and closes than he did. Also, in many cases , his cars are replicas or restos of the actual Brock race cars.

Clifty
18-09-2010, 09:30 AM
Are you a former/current owner of group C and A Commie's Clifty?

I wish I could say I was, I'm Wayne's nephew.

However, the 82/83 winner were at my parents house since he brought it ('84/85) and until it went on display at HPDC and then sold to Peter Champion. I grew up around this car and Wayne's Group A, at the time you don't think much of it... But in hindsight it was a very special car that brought everyone in our family together. Lots of stories...

AmonFan
18-09-2010, 09:35 AM
I wish I could say I was, I'm Wayne's nephew.

However, the 82/83 winner were at my parents house since he brought it ('84/85) and until it went on display at HPDC and then sold to Peter Champion. I grew up around this car and Wayne's Group A, at the time you don't think much of it... But in hindsight it was a very special car that brought everyone in our family together. Lots of stories...

Good stuff mate, before it went to Wayne, i used to see it often and my middle brother sign wrote it when it was in Salamader and later Kmart colours. My eldest brother worked at Settlement Road Auto Salvage where the Kmart Grp C Cars lived, hence David5's comment about me using the 82/83 Bathurst Winner as a cubby house ;)

david5
18-09-2010, 01:22 PM
I think there are about 50 odd people you could/should ask before PC. Although, given that he recently smashed it, he may know a little more about what opens and closes than he did. Also, in many cases , his cars are replicas or restos of the actual Brock race cars.

Might be the weight of the big spoiler holding it shut up at PCs :p

Damage
18-09-2010, 01:41 PM
Concrete spoiler? Wouldnt surpise me. Nice enough bloke but dumb as a bag of hammers. He does have the ultimate Brock shrine though. Hmm, I think my jealousy is showing.. Top guy, salt of the earth.

monarocveightz
18-09-2010, 01:52 PM
No.

Classic already have the mould etc for the basic shell which has the boot opening.

Biante's resin stuff has not been done before. The thing I have against the Biante resin cars is the price. If you look up www.otto-models.com (http://www.otto-models.com) the cars on there are all but one car 1/18 resin. Top quality, low numbers and only Euro45 ish. A bit of a difference to the planned $250! that Biante are proposing.

In saying that Mal.....I've seen 1:18 Resin (Neo Scale Models) that are very similar in price to what Biante are asking...so who know's what detail Biante are planning in these...

Also another point re the boot.....wouldn't it need to be accessable for scrutineering after the race as well?

VE II
18-09-2010, 02:01 PM
Boot things pretty weird. It seems like its still got hinges etc - just stuck shut (99% shut) - it has a tiny bit of movement in it...

El Cheapo
18-09-2010, 02:10 PM
No.

Classic already have the mould etc for the basic shell which has the boot opening.

Biante's resin stuff has not been done before. The thing I have against the Biante resin cars is the price. If you look up www.otto-models.com (http://www.otto-models.com) the cars on there are all but one car 1/18 resin. Top quality, low numbers and only Euro45 ish. A bit of a difference to the planned $250! that Biante are proposing.

To add to what Codie said, Otto's are about as detailed internally as Welly's and Motormax's. Definitely not at the AA/Kyosho/CC/Biante level.

El Cheapo
18-09-2010, 02:11 PM
Boot things pretty weird. It seems like its still got hinges etc - just stuck shut (99% shut) - it has a tiny bit of movement in it...

So. Who'll be the first person to dismantle a 1982 Bathurst Winner to see what's on the inside? ;)

malscar
18-09-2010, 02:12 PM
To add to what Codie said, Otto's are about as detailed internally as Welly's and Motormax's. Definitely not at the AA/Kyosho/CC/Biante level.


Do you have one you can take photos of?

GRPIII
18-09-2010, 02:14 PM
if you belive the boot wouldnt have opened you a bigger fool than most.

El Cheapo
18-09-2010, 02:16 PM
Do you have one you can take photos of?

Nope, but I've seen several photoshoots, most by Impression. Who comes on here every so often.

malscar
18-09-2010, 02:49 PM
OK, that explains it. I suggest you buy one. A lot better than Welly or Motormax. Maybe Otto is not as 'good' in the interior as what Biante have been doing recently but they are not far off it. I do not believe that the $180 price difference can be justified.

El Cheapo
18-09-2010, 03:29 PM
OK, that explains it. I suggest you buy one. A lot better than Welly or Motormax. Maybe Otto is not as 'good' in the interior as what Biante have been doing recently but they are not far off it. I do not believe that the $180 price difference can be justified.

How are their interior's any different to a typical Wellys? No carpet, fabric, etc. From what I've seen anyway. Exterior-wise, they're much better than a Welly, which would be expected obviously because of the resin.

Footy
22-09-2010, 03:37 PM
Hav'nt got this model yet,has it got Brake,clutch ,pedals?

mick xu1
22-09-2010, 05:55 PM
Hav'nt got this model yet,has it got Brake,clutch ,pedals?

Yes it does Footy, i was a bit worried after reading in the die cast mag.......the sample he had did not them......was the 1st thing i checked

Footy
22-09-2010, 06:10 PM
Thanks mick xu1 ,Thats where I read about it,Will have to get myself one .

Rob
22-09-2010, 07:23 PM
Picked mine up today. Will look even better with the final signage applied.
As for the boot, I find it hard to believe that it "never opened".
Surely at some stage they had to check on the aerial and the fuel system??

spoonster05
22-09-2010, 07:29 PM
I'm guessing nobody had pics of what Channel 7's gear in the boot looked like so rather than trying to replicate they have taken the easier option of just having the flap opening rather than having to recreate the boot contents

Rob
22-09-2010, 07:55 PM
Have seen footage of them re-fueling and Peter flicks the fuel flap down so all that
is accurate on the model, but yeah, not so sure about the boot not being able to be opened.

Damage
22-09-2010, 07:58 PM
I see a seller already stripping one for wrecking on eBay, with 82 BW wheels for sale. Maybe somebody could ask him if there is anything in the boot.. I'm not doing it :p

SDK
22-09-2010, 08:20 PM
I see a seller already stripping one for wrecking on eBay, with 82 BW wheels for sale. Maybe somebody could ask him if there is anything in the boot.. I'm not doing it :p
He's wrecking it & selling the bits as he got frustrated & threw it against the wall when he couldn't open the boot. Gone for the oxy.

Damage
22-09-2010, 11:16 PM
lol, no, he just listed an 82 BW with big Kenesis wheels, injected 572 etc etc.

My Element
23-09-2010, 06:27 AM
lol, no, he just listed an 82 BW with big Kenesis wheels, injected 572 etc etc.

same old stuff.. how much $550?

VE II
23-09-2010, 06:57 AM
I lied when i said there was hinges in the boot. When i first got it the boot was loose and i thought that was hinges - the boots actually glued down by 2 little stubs - my boot had just the one - so took the boot lid off to fix it and to have a peek... and a quick picture:

a whole lot of .... nothing...

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn50/mattyharwo od/other/P8240006.jpg

malscar
23-09-2010, 07:15 AM
Thanks VE11.

Shows that if anyone wants to build it, then a bit of work is required.

Damage
23-09-2010, 08:42 AM
Thanks VE11.

Shows that if anyone wants to build it, then a bit of work is required.

A bit of work. Jeez. Does anybody have any snaps of the inside of the 82 boot at all?

david5
23-09-2010, 08:51 AM
A bit of work. Jeez. Does anybody have any snaps of the inside of the 82 boot at all?

Just copy an 83 boot, same car & add some Ch7 camera gear.

malscar
23-09-2010, 09:16 AM
A bit of work. Jeez.

Come on Damage. That should be a shoe in for you.:)

VE II
23-09-2010, 09:19 AM
83 had 2 fuel ports, but the tank is probably the same

david5
23-09-2010, 09:22 AM
83 had 2 fuel ports, but the tank is probably the same

There you go, I should have looked, but I don't have either model, I'll go & sit in the corner & flail myself with a copy of "The Rise & Fall of Peter Brock" untill I stop enjoying it. ;)

VE II
23-09-2010, 09:29 AM
There you go, I should have looked, but I don't have either model, I'll go & sit in the corner & flail myself with a copy of "The Rise & Fall of Peter Brock" untill I stop enjoying it. ;)

lol. i guess you're not used to being wrong... then again - theres a good chance that the 83 model is wrong and you're right all along :p

Damage
23-09-2010, 09:59 AM
Just copy an 83 boot, same car & add some Ch7 camera gear.

Come on Damage. That should be a shoe in for you.:)

Thanks for the vote of confidence Mal, but it looks like the boot needs hinges so the camera gear and transmitter etc is probably the easy bit.. David, do you reckon there are pics of old racecars with "some Ch7 camera gear"? I can't see the 82's equipment being too different to other cars that were fitted with in-car cameras in 83 or 84.. It would just be the layout that would be unique to the 82 yes? I'm thinking without pics though, the idea is pretty much dead in the water.

david5
23-09-2010, 02:15 PM
lol. i guess you're not used to being wrong... then again - theres a good chance that the 83 model is wrong and you're right all along :p

Mate I'm married, I'm very used to being wrong lol.

Damage have a look in old Bathurst programmes, there was usually a spiel on racecam. If you don't have any let me know & I'll check mine for you.

monsteroz
23-09-2010, 03:51 PM
Hi guys,

got my 82 car today... very happy.. they aren't very heavy are they.

Cheers

Monster

Kashmir
23-09-2010, 07:34 PM
Picked mine up tonight, very nice looking car, although the boot reason sounds dodgy.

Graeme
23-09-2010, 07:44 PM
Picked mine up tonight, very nice looking car, although the boot reason sounds dodgy.

I agree ... dodgy ... scrutineering would require access to view the fuel tank, if only to confirm it meets CAMS standards, let alone to ensure that the whole boot space isn't just a giant fuel tank! And, one would think that the HDT team would want uncomplicated access to the boot internals in the event of a fuel pump failure or such like.

Damage
23-09-2010, 08:04 PM
Maybe they couldnt be bothered making the wiring and transmitters for the racecam. So to kill three birds with one stone, the closed boot excuse saves doing boot hinges and fuel system as well.

monsteroz
28-09-2010, 05:15 AM
Hi guys, can anyone suggest who to buy the decals from for the 82 car? I have had mixed luck in the past. Cheers monster

malscar
28-09-2010, 05:26 AM
try www.stickitgraphics.com.au (http://www.stickitgraphics.com.au) , also has a ebay store but not under that name

VC SL/E
28-09-2010, 06:27 AM
yeah, I get mine through stick it graphics as well. Always very good decals. Highly recommended

monarocveightz
28-09-2010, 07:53 AM
yeah, I get mine through stick it graphics as well. Always very good decals. Highly recommended

Agreed.....I've got a few from them and have been very happy with them all

Brasha
28-09-2010, 08:30 AM
I would also have to agree

65square on Ebay

Brutesutes
28-09-2010, 12:21 PM
Agreed.....I've got a few from them and have been very happy with them allWhat ever happened to Ferrari Fan didn't he do the decals ?

fatty
28-09-2010, 01:33 PM
Im getting mine from hoon1959. Never had a prob with his.

v8superman
28-09-2010, 04:53 PM
thanks for the heads up Malscar. I have now purchased stickers from 65square.

Damage
29-09-2010, 08:37 AM
Has anybody chacked thier plate numbers yet?

GLENN L
29-09-2010, 08:56 AM
mines 520.

Damage
29-09-2010, 09:49 AM
Auctioneers Voice: 520 520, I have 520, hanabanana, hmmanananana 520, do I hear 400 bamanananana... :D

And yeah, 65square gives good decal.

fatty
29-09-2010, 03:25 PM
Not sure if anyone has noticed but the model has speaker /vent grilles on the top right and left hand side of the dash where the rollcage enters. No Commodore had these until the VL.

Damage
29-09-2010, 03:28 PM
Not sure if anyone has noticed but the model has speaker /vent grilles on the top right and left hand side of the dash where the rollcage enters. No Commodore had these until the VL.

Not on VK? Could be leftover tooling from the Chickadee or Big Banger..

fatty
29-09-2010, 03:42 PM
1:1 VB-C-H-K's didnt have them. Only VL's.

Rascot
29-09-2010, 03:54 PM
1:1 VB-C-H-K's didnt have them. Only VL's.

I know my old VK Calais had speakers in the corners of the dash, did the VB-VH SLE's have them in the corner? Brock used SLE's for his road cars.

My Element
29-09-2010, 04:10 PM
I know my old VK Calais had speakers in the corners of the dash, did the VB-VH SLE's have them in the corner? Brock used SLE's for his road cars.

Im pretty sure dads VB SLE had them, anyone got a VB-C SLE 1/18 have a look.

fatty
29-09-2010, 04:15 PM
Ive looked at pics online and cant see any Commodores with the top speakers/vents. Happy to be proven wrong.

fatty
29-09-2010, 04:29 PM
After extensive research by a team of boffins aided with a government grant it appears that the VK Calais was the first model to have the grills/vents.

My Element
29-09-2010, 04:39 PM
Vl Group A

http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/modelsinc0 5/vlgroupa_dashplaque.jpg


VL Group 3
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/modelsinc0 5/vlgroup3_interior_manual.jpg

VL Aero
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/modelsinc0 5/vlaero_interiorright.jpg


VC HDT
http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/modelsinc0 5/vc_glovebox.jpg

The Aero doesn't seem to have them nor the group 3, or it might just be the angle.

My Element
29-09-2010, 04:46 PM
VK SLhttp://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/modelsin c05/008Interior.jpg

Graeme
29-09-2010, 06:05 PM
VK SLhttp://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/modelsin c05/008Interior.jpg

That's a nicely complimentary sports steering wheel, but who's responsible for that suspicious stain on the driver's seat cover ?

VC SL/E
30-09-2010, 07:07 AM
My VK Calais definately has the vents, & my VC SL/E doesn't

Jace
30-09-2010, 07:29 AM
VH SL/E had them

monarocveightz
30-09-2010, 08:30 AM
What ever happened to Ferrari Fan didn't he do the decals ?

Not sure mate.....he dissapeared off the face of the earth....so I started to get mine on ebay...

GLENN L
30-09-2010, 09:14 AM
VH SL/E had them
correct jace, the vh sl/e was the first to have them then the vk calais and all vl's had them.

Damage
30-09-2010, 09:30 AM
Only VK I've owned was a Calais so that's why I thought VKs had them. Perhaps MHDT used VH SL/E dashes? I wonder if the real 82 BW has the speaker grilles.

Interesting re that last photo, I don't recall VKs being released with grey interiors/dash, so nice job, looks good. First Commodore with grey interior was VL at least IIRC.

My Element
30-09-2010, 10:13 AM
That's a nicely complimentary sports steering wheel, but who's responsible for that suspicious stain on the driver's seat cover ?


dont ask me i just found the the on the net, My car has leather so no problems there in that dept. :D

VC SL/E
30-09-2010, 10:18 AM
aaahhhh leather, just wipes off

fatty
30-09-2010, 02:18 PM
correct jace, the vh sl/e was the first to have them then the vk calais and all vl's had them.Possibly an option as every pic Ive looked at VH doesnt have them.. Anyway its anice model and will look good next to my other Brockmobiles.

downhiller1979
30-09-2010, 05:22 PM
Only VK I've owned was a Calais so that's why I thought VKs had them. Perhaps MHDT used VH SL/E dashes? I wonder if the real 82 BW has the speaker grilles.

Interesting re that last photo, I don't recall VKs being released with grey interiors/dash, so nice job, looks good. First Commodore with grey interior was VL at least IIRC.

My mate has a VK Calais 5.0L with a grey velour interior. It is an America's cup edition (numbered dash). Very nice car and I'd say their hard to come by.

Damage
30-09-2010, 06:26 PM
America's Cup Edition? Sure its not a VL? Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I'm not sure I've seen one of those, or a grey trim code for VK..

malscar
30-09-2010, 07:09 PM
The Americas Cup which we won was early '80s.

downhiller1979
30-09-2010, 08:21 PM
America's Cup Edition? Sure its not a VL? Perhaps my memory is failing me, but I'm not sure I've seen one of those, or a grey trim code for VK..

Yep, positive its a VK. I'll try get some pics. Its almost identical to the vl calais eg. white/silver, electronic dash, grey velour interior. It has an individually numbered dash (around no#30..)with the cup. I think it is the only one I've seen.

rayman
30-09-2010, 08:39 PM
Yep, positive its a VK. I'll try get some pics. Its almost identical to the vl calais eg. white/silver, electronic dash, grey velour interior. It has an individually numbered dash (around no#30..)with the cup. I think it is the only one I've seen.
I have to agree with Damage, it was a VL. If you remember back to 1987 and a Holden add with a VL V8 towing the yacht. 1987 was the year we were defending the America's Cup.

Damage
30-09-2010, 09:50 PM
Downhiller is saying his mate's has a digital dash which is VK Calais. IIRC the 87 VL America's Cup editions were just basically Execs with a couple of decals, not Calais. If his mate has a VK there must be only a handful around becaue Ive only ever seen the white VLs.

Graeme
30-09-2010, 09:56 PM
Only VK I've owned was a Calais so that's why I thought VKs had them. Perhaps MHDT used VH SL/E dashes? I wonder if the real 82 BW has the speaker grilles.

Interesting re that last photo, I don't recall VKs being released with grey interiors/dash, so nice job, looks good. First Commodore with grey interior was VL at least IIRC.

I think Brocky liked to play in the Holden parts bin ... the 1979 Bathurst winner A9X had UC Sunbird SL/E seats (except the driver's), door trims, and steering wheel ... the 1982 Bathurst winner features VH Commodore SL/X door trims.

As to grey interiors, I think you'll find they were always available on the Commodore, just not very common ... unlike 2010 where almost every basic car has a grey interior, the 70s and early 80s universally favoured tan or saddle interiors above most other colours.

Here's an image I found of a silver VC Commodore SL sedan with grey interior :

Graeme
30-09-2010, 10:01 PM
Downhiller is saying his mate's has a digital dash which is VK Calais. IIRC the 87 VL America's Cup editions were just basically Execs with a couple of decals, not Calais. If his mate has a VK there must be only a handful around becaue Ive only ever seen the white VLs.

Agree ... my memory is of white VL Commodore Executive sedans with blue waistline pinstriping and a yacht motif on the right hand side of the boot.

Damage
30-09-2010, 10:33 PM
Agree ... my memory is of white VL Commodore Executive sedans with blue waistline pinstriping and a yacht motif on the right hand side of the boot.

Yes, and if memory serves, they also had small motifs on the rear ¼ window.

Graeme
30-09-2010, 10:40 PM
Yes, and if memory serves, they also had small motifs on the rear ¼ window.

Not sure matey ... and I'm scratching my head as to whether the bumpers were colour-coded, or not ?

GSXR1
30-09-2010, 11:28 PM
What ever happened to Ferrari Fan?

Not sure mate.....he dissapeared off the face of the earth....
Bumped into him up at the racetrack just last weekend as it happens - he (obviously) doesn't come here anymore, and no longer does the decals, but he still collects the odd model (mainly bikes). He had a pretty bad work accident a couple of years back and was pretty seriously banged up (broken leg, back injuries plus some other stuff), but he's slowly coming good

malscar
01-10-2010, 05:29 AM
Bumped into him up at the racetrack just last weekend as it happens - he (obviously) doesn't come here anymore, and no longer does the decals, but he still collects the odd model (mainly bikes). He had a pretty bad work accident a couple of years back and was pretty seriously banged up (broken leg, back injuries plus some other stuff), but he's slowly coming good


If you see him again, pass on our thoughts to him.

GLENN L
01-10-2010, 07:35 AM
has anyone got decals of feefeebox on ebay before?

Damage
01-10-2010, 08:36 AM
has anyone got decals of feefeebox on ebay before?

Yes and they are fine. feefeebox and two other ID's decals (although not 65square) come from the same address/family/person. I'm not interested in naming which accounts, as I believe the forum and eBay should be two very seperate things unless there is a very valid reason for disclosure. If you're interested, it's not too hard to work out anyway.

My Element
01-10-2010, 08:45 AM
but water slide sometimes a bit thin from feefee and tears, and Mr D is right about two accounts from them too. But my main man is 65square. Cant go wrong with him.

GLENN L
01-10-2010, 09:04 AM
yeah seen 65 squares decals but he has waterslide for the rear garnish inbetewn the tail lights which im not keen on.

My Element
01-10-2010, 09:08 AM
yeah seen 65 squares decals but he has waterslide for the rear garnish inbetewn the tail lights which im not keen on.

its just so it is easier to get into the grooves on the 83/84 and sits nice in the 82. Ive had no dramas,

VE II
01-10-2010, 09:11 AM
i found the tail light decal from 65 square very good - its pretty easy to put in place and he provides a spare. It'd be pretty tricky to get vinyl in there.
feefeebox's decals for the bonnet look a bit long for my liking, so i went with the 65square.

My 82 came with a missing bonnet pin (dont get me started) anyway, CC said they'd send me some spares... 4x v8supercar bonnet pins turned up yesterday :rolleyes:

My Element
01-10-2010, 09:14 AM
apparently he printed out 500 sets of those decals and still needs more

downhiller1979
01-10-2010, 10:05 AM
Not sure matey ... and I'm scratching my head as to whether the bumpers were colour-coded, or not ?

Yes. I had an America's cup VL. What a piece of ****. White with colour coded bumpers, grey cloth interior, blue and red pin striping, cup stickers on the fenders and a cup badge on the dash. Oh, and don't forget the white hub caps.

Yes my mate's is definately a "VK Calais Cup Edition." Maybe it was another Eastern States release. I assume they are very rare, it is numbered at around 30 and has the 308 option. A pity it is unlicenced.

downhiller1979
01-10-2010, 10:12 AM
I have to agree with Damage, it was a VL. If you remember back to 1987 and a Holden add with a VL V8 towing the yacht. 1987 was the year we were defending the America's Cup.

The VL Calais did come out in a cup edition. I'm not arguing that. It was in 83 that we won the cup. VK were produced in 84 and 85 so its quite possible there was a VK Calais cup edition. So whether my mates "VK Calais America's Cup Edition" is a mock or not, is a complete mystery. Looks pretty genuine to me.

Damage
01-10-2010, 10:26 AM
Yeah 83 we won it, rayman said we were defending it in 87. Never seen a calais based VL Cup edition. I'm not saying your mates is a mock-up, just that I've not seen one or heard of one before. I had a quick Google but just because they arent on there doesnt mean they dont exist.

A google did turn up a ¼ window on eBay with Oz Cup decals like I was talking about, and interestingly the ad says it was from a VK, so the dystery meepens.

downhiller1979
01-10-2010, 12:52 PM
Yeah 83 we won it, rayman said we were defending it in 87. Never seen a calais based VL Cup edition. I'm not saying your mates is a mock-up, just that I've not seen one or heard of one before. I had a quick Google but just because they arent on there doesnt mean they dont exist.

A google did turn up a ¼ window on eBay with Oz Cup decals like I was talking about, and interestingly the ad says it was from a VK, so the dystery meepens.

Yeah, I'm not so sure about the VL Calais having a cup edition either, (I think my memory was a bit fuzzy this morning) but I do recall the Gold coloured Calais. Maybe that was the international edition or something.

All I know is that my friend potentially has a 'VK Calias Cup Edition' that has very much the same specs as a standard VL Calais (plus badges and V8).

He lives in Busselton so I will get him to send a couple of pics.

downhiller1979
01-10-2010, 12:57 PM
Found this conversation on a forum. However, this interior is a blue colour.


View Full Version : FS VK Calais Americas Cup Interior (http://www.calaisturbo.com.au/showthread.php?t=14 082)
raynerbc
04-01-04, 14:29

After offers on a complete interior in excellent condition for a VK Calais interior, Americas Cup edition.

lil_groover
04-01-04, 14:42

whats the difference between a normal VK calais interior and that one.

raynerbc
04-01-04, 15:31

Like an off blue, and glovebox has Americas cup badging from that year..

GRPIII
02-10-2010, 06:46 AM
there was a limited editon 2 tone gold cup edition vl from memory

Graeme
02-10-2010, 11:55 AM
there was a limited editon 2 tone gold cup edition vl from memory

You may be thinking of the limited edition VL Commodore Series 200, released in May 1988 to commemorate Australia's bicentenary that year. Holden built 600 of these in a two-tone gold metallic over cream combination, with a mix of Berlina externals and Calais internals.

Here's a pic from the internet, but whilst otherwise original, this car is missing it's original colour-coded VL Turbo hubcaps :

smythy17
02-10-2010, 09:19 PM
so do we know if anyone has pulled one apart yet and wether there is anything in the boot or not? Had a look at mine and it looks like the boot lid's just glued shut on the sides. Not game to try opening it though

GSXR1
02-10-2010, 09:35 PM
so do we know if anyone has pulled one apart yet and wether there is anything in the boot or not? Had a look at mine and it looks like the boot lid's just glued shut on the sides. Not game to try opening it thoughHere ya go, just need to read back through the thread a bit ;)

http://forums.biante.com.au/showpost.php?p=420882&postcount=55

smythy17
03-10-2010, 08:55 AM
Thanks GSXR1 obviously didn't look hard enough

Waynestr
03-10-2010, 05:48 PM
Here ya go, just need to read back through the thread a bit ;)

http://forums.biante.com.au/showpost.php?p=420882&postcount=55
Thanks for that.Satisfies my curiousity,and I dare say many others.
Cheers