2011 V8 Super Cars Rumours & Gossip

[barnart]

Well lets start early

1/ Johnson has signed a 1 year deal with DJR

2/ Will to replace Richo at FPR

3/ Murphy will be replaced by a cashed up young gun

4/ TD could end up in a RED car as Will moves

[malscar]

So in your big plan, where does Murph go? Or is that it for him??

[barnart]

So in your big plan, where does Murph go? Or is that it for him??

I say its OVER for him, is a shame

[stephenhrt]

Would of thought Fabian Coulthard would be moved up to the top team before d'alberto. Me thinks d'alberto needs a stint at WP first

[HRT1]

Dave Reynolds would be a good goer at HRT...

talk is that Fabian doesnt like driving a Holden as he thinks driving a Ford suits his style better? Personally think thats a bit of rubbish but i suppose its had a little bit of effect on Dumbrell hasnt it??

[ratster70]

Dave Reynolds would be a good goer at HRT...

talk is that Fabian doesnt like driving a Holden as he thinks driving a Ford suits his style better? Personally think thats a bit of rubbish but i suppose its had a little bit of effect on Dumbrell hasnt it??


Maybe not so much change of brand the old saying a change is as good as a holiday and sometimes things just dont happen mebbe in Fabs case

[El Cheapo]

talk is that Fabian doesnt like driving a Holden as he thinks driving a Ford suits his style better? Personally think thats a bit of rubbish but i suppose its had a little bit of effect on Dumbrell hasnt it??

Sort of had an effect on Fabian too really. Since he's sort of gone backwards since last year (not that last year was a revelation or anything).

What about....for a bit of a theory...Fabs filling in Murphy's seat at PMM (if Murph were to retire. I'd hope not). It'd make sense, as Fabs proved himself quick in T8 machinery, and has driven for Morris before.

It's all a bit CSI though.

[barnart]

Don't forget Paul could be giving up his seat to run Gary's companies so theres a good car to drive.

[HRT1]

The talk around is that Dumbrell is pretty certain to drive again next year & should continue juggling as he has this year

[edy]

I thought HRT would buy out Caruso's contract from Garry.

[HRT1]

i really hope they retain davo & give him a decent car... swap the engineers back, HRT are really struggling way too much for a factory team, its almost inexcusable

[spoonster05]

I say its OVER for him, is a shame

Maybe Murph to go 'home' with one Mr Barclay ?

[HRT-222]

i really hope they retain davo & give him a decent car... swap the engineers back, HRT are really struggling way too much for a factory team, its almost inexcusable

I agree, i've always been a fan of Will's, even in the DJR days, and i really feel sorry for the poor bugger so i hope they give him another go but if he has to go i would like to see D'Alberto at HRT before Fabian :)

Cheers Josh

[wayno]

I don't want anyone I like in the second seat at HRt as it seems to be a bit of a poisoned chalice.

[<Jonboy>]

What about....for a bit of a theory...Fabs filling in Murphy's seat at PMM (if Murph were to retire. I'd hope not). It'd make sense, as Fabs proved himself quick in T8 machinery, and has driven for Morris before.
and i think Morris may have burnt that bridge...

[edy]

So in your big plan, where does Murph go? Or is that it for him??

Well if this is the case, at Murph's retirement press conference, you will see Tony (VXFAN)

1. in the background crying
2. give Murph a big man hug at the end; and
3. tell everyone at the end to get nicked!!

:D

[grease]

Well lets start early

1/ Johnson has signed a 1 year deal with DJR

2/ Will to replace Richo at FPR

3/ Murphy will be replaced by a cashed up young gun

4/ TD could end up in a RED car as Will moves

Tony D'Alberto?

[eddie2190]

Michael Caruso to HRT (pending Bathurst performance)
Steve Owen to LDM.
Will Davison to FPR
Steven Richards to PMM (would be sweet sweet irony for Castrol; going from Falcon to Commodore and needing a 'high profile' driver. Tim Slade is p14 in the championship; Richo 19th and Murphy 25TH!!!! (BELOW BARGWANNA AND FIORE!!)) FAIL!
Tim Blanchard to PMM?
David Reynolds replacing Thompson in car 10.
Luke Youlden to GRM (pending Bathurst performance)
New driver for car 16.

[El Cheapo]

and i think Morris may have burnt that bridge...

Then again, I recall him calling Murphy various things in one of his 'commenting-on-other-drivers-for-a-bit-of-attention' things :laugh4:

[VXfan]

Well if this is the case, at Murph's retirement press conference, you will see Tony (VXFAN)

1. in the background crying
2. give Murph a big man hug at the end; and
3. tell everyone at the end to get nicked!!

:D
Pretty much spot on mate..:(
I'm glad Scotty has started this rumour as he is invariably wrong...:p

[<Jonboy>]

Steve Owen to LDM.
is this considered more of a bought drive? if so doubt Owen has the $$

[malscar]

Steven Richards to PMM
Tim Blanchard to PMM?



Where does that leave Ingall? I would not be throwing him out yet.

[f1webber]

Why would you replace Murph with Richo? :confused:
I am sure Murph and Ingall have not forgotten how to drive
but they do seem to both struggle to get the best out of
the 888 chassis.
But when Murph wins Bathurst in a couple of weeks his seat will
be safe as houses :D

[brchi17]

...Steve Owen to LDM....

I can't see how this is anymore than a backwards step and simply not worth considering. Why would you go from being one of the most highly sort after co-drivers (remember in the past 3 enduro seasons he's driven for DJR, WP & T8) driving all the better cars getting to one which has no race winning potential what so ever? At his age you'd have to think that going after race wins are simply far more important than being just another backmarker.

[My Element]

Junior Johnson signed to stay in dads team next year

[barnart]

Pretty much spot on mate..:(
I'm glad Scotty has started this rumour as he is invariably wrong...:p

Wrong I get it correct most times

[GLENN L]

Dave Reynolds would be a good goer at HRT...

talk is that Fabian doesnt like driving a Holden as he thinks driving a Ford suits his style better? Personally think thats a bit of rubbish but i suppose its had a little bit of effect on Dumbrell hasnt it??
i wonder how fabian would go in a 888 commodore as the falcons were 888.

[GTsteveMkII]

Will Davison to FPR



Oh I'd love to see Will come over to FPR and be the team mate that Frosty deserves. Really hoping this one comes true!

[barnart]

The way Skaife drove at PI maybe a team loosing a driver may want him to drive.

[bortall]

Clipsal 2011 - Race Date
17 - 20 March 2011
Race date confirmed for 2011 Clipsal 500 (http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/09/22/race-date-confirmed-for-2011-clipsal-500/)

[commanderwhite]

My predictions;-

Will Davo to FPR.
Steve Richo - Gonnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
The Gun Holdsworth to HRT.
Steve Owen to GRM.

[Leigh]

Steve Owen won't pay for a sub-par drive...

[El Cheapo]

Surely he'd sooner go to GRM than stay on the sidelines. Is the co-driver position really worth it?

[louieate8ate]

Surely he'd sooner go to GRM than stay on the sidelines. Is the co-driver position really worth it?
You would have to ask him in a few weeks,I'm guessing. ;)

[smokey_dj]

Michael Caruso to HRT (pending Bathurst performance)
Steve Owen to LDM.
Will Davison to FPR
Steven Richards to PMM (would be sweet sweet irony for Castrol; going from Falcon to Commodore and needing a 'high profile' driver. Tim Slade is p14 in the championship; Richo 19th and Murphy 25TH!!!! (BELOW BARGWANNA AND FIORE!!)) FAIL!
Tim Blanchard to PMM?
David Reynolds replacing Thompson in car 10.
Luke Youlden to GRM (pending Bathurst performance)
New driver for car 16.


as far as the murph comment goes rem he did miss the first round so no points there and i think hes had a dnf or 2 if i rem right i dont think murph deserves to move on unless its his decision still dont think his times done yet

[brchi17]

Surely he'd sooner go to GRM than stay on the sidelines. Is the co-driver position really worth it?

defiantly, think about this way, would you rather only race a couple of times a year in the best cars with a real chance of winning the years biggest races, or would you prefer to simply drive full time in something that is not as good and will seldom ever, if not never win?

[david5]

I think he would take a drive at GRM, they've been knocking on the door.

I would rather race all year, just to keep a higher profile, plus it's more fun.

[My Element]

i think clipsal will be a twilight race this year

[El Cheapo]

I think he would take a drive at GRM, they've been knocking on the door.

I would rather race all year, just to keep a higher profile, plus it's more fun.

Indeed.

Driving for a team that can get itself on the podium every now and again would be a lot nicer than putting all your eggs in one basket. Garry's a funny sort too :cool:

Regarding the Clipsal twilight stuff, it'll be like days of old :D

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/09/22/race-date-confirmed-for-2011-clipsal-500/

[brchi17]

Steve almost drove for GRM a few years back (at the end of his RNR days) however someone came along with a much bigger cheque book and is took it from him only days from the ink being made perminant, so for the many reasons mentioned before I really can't see him moving away from his current situation. As Craig Baird (plus others) have proved, you can earn a good living from only being an endurance driver ;)

[HRT1]

My predictions;-

Will Davo to FPR.
Steve Richo - Gonnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
The Gun Holdsworth to HRT.
Steve Owen to GRM.
Holdsworth has already extended his contract at GRM

[rex555]

i think clipsal will be a twilight race this year

At least their sun shades may work for the first 10 rows on pit straight if thats the case :(

[eddie2190]

Where does that leave Ingall? I would not be throwing him out yet.

Sorry; I meant either Richo or Blanchard to replace Murph.
Does anyone know how long Murph's contract is? Surely he'd have failed the performance clause.
Ingall has proven time and time again he is a fantastic racer and is always a solid top 10 runner; regardless of where he qualifies.

Richo has also showed brilliant speed lately; with a top 10 at Darwin on the Sunday with the sprint tire and a top 10 and 5th place at Townsville. Unfortunately, Moffat did not do him any favours at PI.

The Bigpond sport interview of Richo at Townsville sounds awfully like a package that will be used for a retirement video or something. I also think the new driver pairing rule for the enduros doesn't help Richo's cause; there's a reason why he has always started the car and his position gains in the first corner explain why. He's been dealt the short straw being paired with Moffat, yes he is now an 'FPR driver' and rookies do need to debut but Richo's potential result has been hampered as a result.

As far as consistency goes I don't think Richo will be staying at FPR; but this is also partly a result of all the focus being on car 5 and the occasional unreliability of car 6.

[El Cheapo]

Does anyone know how long Murph's contract is? Surely he'd have failed the performance clause.

Well surely there's a bit of leniency considering how many times the car underneath him has crumbled when it's been quick or in the top 15.

[fordmad17]

i think clipsal will be a twilight race this year

Clipsal has been run and won this year.. I think u mean next year.......

[My Element]

Clipsal has been run and won this year.. I think u mean next year.......

yeah same thing lol

[brchi17]

....He's been dealt the short straw being paired with Moffat, yes he is now an 'FPR driver' and rookies do need to debut but Richo's potential result has been hampered as a result.....

I think they've looked at this seasons results and decided that car 5 is a far greater prospect of finishing on the podium, hence why car 6 is now the back up. in my mind, Richo is looking much like Steven Johnson, a good solid driver who can get results on their day however for their day to happen, they need others to fail as they simply don't have that last 2% of speed required to do it by themselves.

[<Jonboy>]

Does anyone know how long Murph's contract is? Surely he'd have failed the performance clause.
assuming there is a performance clause... don't forget Murph came on board with a lot more backing, a much bigger profile, and engineering potential behind him, as such would be a lot harder to dump than Fabs/Gurr/Timeeeh

[edy]

This year Murph promised to deliver with the T8 gear.

But as Tony had said, its been like a Mechanno set for PMM to get those T8 Commies worked out. Maybe its harder to tune and set the T8 Commies compared to the Falcons.

When the T8 built Falcons were released PCR and DJR were pretty much on to it!

[brchi17]

don't forget that DJR and PCR built the cars with Triple 8 compared to PMM who were simply given all the stuff and left to put it all together, this would make a big difference in understanding how they work....

Perhaps PMM simply didn't know where those left over bits should go and that's making all the difference :D lol !!!

[Chev_350]

I think it is a case that Triple 8 haven't got their heads fully around the Commodores yet (regardless of all the wins) and for PMM the Triple 8 cars are a little different than the old commodores they had.

When PCR and DJR got the Triple 8 Falcons, Triple 8 had been building them for awhile.

[<Jonboy>]

Perhaps PMM simply didn't know where those left over bits should go and that's making all the difference :D lol !!!Ikea have alot to answer for...

[Leigh]

I think it is a case that Triple 8 haven't got their heads fully around the Commodores yet (regardless of all the wins) and for PMM the Triple 8 cars are a little different than the old commodores they had.

When PCR and DJR got the Triple 8 Falcons, Triple 8 had been building them for awhile.

What's to get the head around? Some different panels and a different brand on the block?

[El Cheapo]

What's to get the head around? Some different panels and a different brand on the block?

Set-up? The countless times we've heard the commentators say that it 'drives' more like a Ford than a Holden?

A wide set-up window is something I've heard Murphy talk about several times. If he finished where he should have rightfully finished at Adelaide, Bahrain, Townsville, and probably Hamilton, he'd probably only be a few spots behind Ingall.

[Leigh]

That's a different argument than Chev350 is using...and I agree with you...

There is little difference between a 888 Falcon and Commodore...compared to a 888 Commodore and a PMM Commodore.

For a team like PMM you'd expect them to take some time to come to grips with the 888 package.

[El Cheapo]

:o My bad. That's what I get for reading only the first and last word of the post...

But yes. It's clear that the transimisson for T8 was nothing more than pannels, roll-cage (?), engine, badge, and fanbase.

So....who do people think is most most most likely to take the 4th seat at JDR? It's probably the most likely seat to be fought over at this stage. If the Kelly's put a bit more time into that car, they'd be a real threat for the teams championship.

[Maq]

They should have kept the PMM cars. Old living fossil Rusty did a cracker job last year

[david5]

At PMM maybe it's a case of having two drivers who have had team mates in the past who did the majority of the set up.

[HRT1]

:o My bad. That's what I get for reading only the first and last word of the post...

But yes. It's clear that the transimisson for T8 was nothing more than pannels, roll-cage (?), engine, badge, and fanbase.

So....who do people think is most most most likely to take the 4th seat at JDR? It's probably the most likely seat to be fought over at this stage. If the Kelly's put a bit more time into that car, they'd be a real threat for the teams championship.
Dave Reynolds

[louieate8ate]

Unless the Kellys' put more effort into the 4th car,I wouldn't like to see Reynolds go there.A guy with a bit of talent in a under performing car sometimes is a bad move.

[eddie2190]

In that case they should give some 'young gals' like Leanne Tander and Amber Anderson a go.

[TAG05]

In that case they should give some 'young gals' like Leanne Tander and Amber Anderson a go.

Dunno about giving Amber a go - she might stop on the end the straight at PI and wait for the croud to come around to lap her......;););)

[holden_racing_kid]

young gals would be lauren gray or samantha reid

[eddie2190]

What about Briony? :p

[holden_racing_kid]

What about Briony? :p

LOL!!! she doesnt drive does she?

[ratster70]

LOL!!! she doesnt drive does she?


Well she may use public transport alot but id be pretty confident that she drives something:p:p

[gab73]

I think they've looked at this seasons results and decided that car 5 is a far greater prospect of finishing on the podium, hence why car 6 is now the back up. in my mind, Richo is looking much like Steven Johnson, a good solid driver who can get results on their day however for their day to happen, they need others to fail as they simply don't have that last 2% of speed required to do it by themselves.

I believe Steven Richards and Steve Johnson have wasted there talent in V8 Supercars, there driving style is more suited to endurance racing, pitty they haven't gone overseas to Sports Car Racing.

[Chev_350]

That's a different argument than Chev350 is using...and I agree with you....

How is that different to what I was saying :confused:, dispite the cars have little differences (between the fords and holden) there are still differences. and there are also differences to the Triple 8 Holdens and PMM Holdens.

[brchi17]

Unless the Kellys' put more effort into the 4th car,I wouldn't like to see Reynolds go there.A guy with a bit of talent in a under performing car sometimes is a bad move.

I think the effort they're putting into the 4th car would be directly proportionate to the amount of cash the driver is putting that car ;)

[<Jonboy>]

So....who do people think is most most most likely to take the 4th seat at JDR? Ralf or Danica :D

[Maq]

The ink has flowed from someone to swap factory teams

[spoonster05]

So does that make Will a double turncoat then ?......:D:p

[<Jonboy>]

The ink has flowed from someone to swap factory teamsRicho? :D that would be priceless for Ford fans (eg me) :p

[Maq]

I did not think any one would guess. Your right Richo to replace Tander @ HRT :laugh4:




NOT :p

[barnart]

[QUOTE=Maq;421154]I did not think any one would guess. Your right Richo to replace Tander @ HRT :laugh4:


THATS FUNNY

[edy]

How about Tander to Triple F :deal2:

[malscar]

The ink has flowed from someone to swap factory teams

So Davo to FPR.

[<Jonboy>]

The ink has flowed from someone to swap factory teamstell me this isn't from a reliable source over on kinder though...

[Maq]

What the?

[El Cheapo]

Sprint tyres for all rounds next year except Adelaide, PI and Bathurst :D "sources suggest so" anyways. Good news.

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/09/24/many-more-sprint-tyre-events-for-2011-v8s/

[Maq]

tell me this isn't from a reliable source over on kinder though...

direct from someone close:p

[HRT1]

If davo goes to FPR I'll be hugely disappointed... Such a good bloke, such a good thing for whatever team he represents.

Really dislike FPR and having davo there will make it very hard to support him...

Who is gonna drive for HRT? Reynolds? Please don't tell me dalberto? Don't think his quite ready

[El Cheapo]

Who is gonna drive for HRT? Reynolds? Please don't tell me dalberto? Don't think his quite ready

And Reynolds is?

I'd say Steve Owen is more likely than Reynolds or D'Alberto. As well as Coulthard.

[edy]

If davo goes to FPR I'll be hugely disappointed... Such a good bloke, such a good thing for whatever team he represents.

Really dislike FPR and having davo there will make it very hard to support him...

Who is gonna drive for HRT? Reynolds? Please don't tell me dalberto? Don't think his quite ready

A shame that Davo didnt return to DJR.

I thought JC's contract expired at the end of this year. I thought I heard talk of him going to HRT about a year or so ago?

What a shame....

[HRT1]

Reynolds probably isn't either. Coulthard would be good if they gave him good equipment.

I heard the Courtney to HRT rumour last year also. But I swear I heard his got a contract at DJR next season already??

Also heard that the Bundy Red team might not exist next season

[eddie2190]

Yes in the online reports that Johnson has taken up his option with DJR for 2011 it says that the lineup of Courtney and Johnson has been confirmed for 2011.

[HRT-222]

Me personally, i don't want either Reynolds or Coulthard to replace Will.....I think that these two would be finishing lower than what Will is atm

Not sure who would be best to replace him, D'Alberto wouldn;t be bad as hes going really well atm in a one car team and every now and then getting a top 10 finish but i reckon if HRT gave him a good car he wouldn't go to bad

Cheers Josh

[HRT1]

if HRT gave Davo a good car he'd be fine.... they mustnt be putting in for his car surely?

he hasnt even been close all year? this is a factory team we're talking about

[edy]

Also heard that the Bundy Red team might not exist next season

How about T8 taking over the 'HRT' contract.

Time has come and gone and unfortunately Uncle Tom aint the powerhouse team it used to be!

[VE II]

How about T8 taking over the 'HRT' contract.

Time has come and gone and unfortunately Uncle Tom aint the powerhouse team it used to be!

how would that work? vodafone sponsored hrt cars or 888 made hrt toll cars, with walkinshaw making different cars/team?

[edy]

how would that work? vodafone sponsored hrt cars or 888 made hrt toll cars, with walkinshaw making different cars/team?

T8 running 4 licenses?

HRT with Tander and Whincup

Team Vodafone Lowndes and ????

I remember HRT-222's dad saying that he heard about Uncle Tom potentially losing the HRT contract?

However, as for proof? Got none....

Like most of the stuff on this thread - it's all hearsay!

[Kashmir]

Hmm T8 run HRT with GT and Whincup as the drivers what a powerhouse team that would be!!!

I guess one could dream.

[GTsteveMkII]

I really really really hope that Will is on his way to FPR! That is exactly what they need for the #6 car! He would be such a perfect fit for the team!

[eddie2190]

I wonder who the naming rights sponsor would be; considering Dunlop Super Dealers (I think) was a 1 year deal only.
L&H perhaps?

[GTsteveMkII]

Does Will have any personal sponsors?

[fastboysmith]

I wonder who the naming rights sponsor would be; considering Dunlop Super Dealers (I think) was a 1 year deal only.
L&H perhaps?

Won't bw l&h they are bearly scraping in with what they got they wont go no more

[MP4/22]

Does Will have any personal sponsors?

Jim beam, and rare spares.

[spiderken17]

I would think if Davo signed with FPR they would have a better chance of finding a major sponsor for the #6 car. Any potential sponsors for Richo's car this year would have looked at his last few years results and steered clear.

[GTsteveMkII]

Thanks for that.

Well if this deal went ahead Jim Beam obviously wouldn't be sponsoring the #6 and I couldn't see Rare Spares stepping up either. I think they'd get a major sponsor pretty easily with Will as the driver, just wondering who it could be.

[eddie2190]

Maybe one of FPR's current sponsors stepping up their sponsorship?
A reborn CAT car? or TEAC?
I'd personally like to see a Puma car!! :) (although their main colour is red and we all know what happened the last time a Falcon was red.)

[edy]

How about
- Red Bull
- Monster (temporary deal until JW is free)

If FPR dont get a sponsor they would get FPV to underwrite them again. Similar to 2006 after BroadIP went bust, FPV with GT stepped in.

This could be likely given the new FG GT will have a new Coyote engine in it.

[brchi17]

Why doesn't Ford just use Wild-E-Coyote, now that would liven up the side of the FPR cars :D lol !!!

[edy]

Why doesn't Ford just use Wild-E-Coyote, now that would liven up the side of the FPR cars :D lol !!!

Actually Bruce, its very confusing....

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/50776/2011-fpv-gs-and-gt-details-of-supercharged-miami-v8-revealed

Whilst the engine is called a 'Coyote', the FPV project using the Coyote engine is called 'Miami'.

Makes no sense.

Coyote seems so much cooler than Miami....

[david5]

If you need a tool to hold the motor still, is it a Miamai Vice ??:rolleyes:

[louieate8ate]

The ink has flowed from someone to swap factory teams
A Davo to HRT and W Davo to SBR:p;)

[Maq]

SBR is a factory backed team not a factory team :p

[k1w1taxi]

Why doesn't Ford just use Wild-E-Coyote, now that would liven up the side of the FPR cars :D lol !!!

When was the last time Wiley won? Probably not the look for a race sponsorship!

Cheers
Lee

[Numark83]

When was the last time Wiley won? Probably not the look for a race sponsorship!

Cheers
Lee

Exactly! Plus, the Holden Barina used Road Runner graphics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Barina

[rex555]

Exactly! Plus, the Holden Barina used Road Runner graphics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Barina

And Subaru used Wile E Coyote as the hero in their advertising for the WRX in 1998 along with Road Runner.

[smokey_dj]

and theres always JEEP! JEEP! :p

[brchi17]

interesting to read Craig Baird's comments about the potential of having the V8's in Singapore for next years GP.....looks like he's let the cat out of the bag lol !!!!

[HRT1]

cant remember where it was mentioned on the biante forum earlier, but with the HRT retro livery & V8SC mentioning something about a "heritage" round wouldnt it be great for teams to put some more retro liveries together.... all at 1 round, would not only make for more great model cars but also create a little bit more media coverage etc too

[kts350]

interesting to read Craig Baird's comments about the potential of having the V8's in Singapore for next years GP.....looks like he's let the cat out of the bag lol !!!!

Here we go again another overseas race which australian track misses out on race now if this happens..
I was interested to read the other day that apparently rating and revenue is falling for the V8's dont know how true it is either if I can remember where I read it I'll post the link..

[brchi17]

Here we go again another overseas race which australian track misses out on race now if this happens..
I was interested to read the other day that apparently rating and revenue is falling for the V8's dont know how true it is either if I can remember where I read it I'll post the link..

this time I don't think it will as the Cockroach said on V8Xtra last weekend that next year we'd have 16 championship events next year, so if my maths is correct this year we had 14 (cause the AGP doesn't count so is not in the 14), so when you add the return of WA plus Singapore you get 16 ;)

[david5]

How come they can't get around the Ch 7, Ch 10 coverage issue for the AGP, but they can for Singapore ? Or does Black Wiggle know something we don't ?

[brchi17]

How come they can't get around the Ch 7, Ch 10 coverage issue for the AGP, but they can for Singapore ? Or does Black Wiggle know something we don't ?

I must admit that was something I was wondering myself, hopefully this might mean that we get both, as I think it's long over due that Albert Park was a round of the championship. Does anyone know when the current television agreement ends? Hopefully VESA allow for a shared split coverage (like nascar does) so every time we see the V8's racing it's for points.

[<Jonboy>]

cant remember where it was mentioned on the biante forum earlier, but with the HRT retro livery & V8SC mentioning something about a "heritage" round wouldnt it be great for teams to put some more retro liveries together.... all at 1 round, would not only make for more great model cars but also create a little bit more media coverage etc tooit's supposed to be the Sandown round, and the above question was asked, and i only got one bite from (i think) Rob, who said something along the lines of wait and see. As if we'd tell anyone ;)

this time I don't think it will as the Cockroach said on V8Xtra last weekend that next year we'd have 16 championship events next year, so if my maths is correct this year we had 14 (cause the AGP doesn't count so is not in the 14), so when you add the return of WA plus Singapore you get 16 ;)i get the distinct impression that something has been worked out for the AGP by the way he was talking maybe for 2012

How come they can't get around the Ch 7, Ch 10 coverage issue for the AGP, but they can for Singapore ? Or does Black Wiggle know something we don't ?maybe they haven't worked it out, or as above, they have worked it out for both AGP and Singapore

[smokey_dj]

im just excited that next yr the agp for the v8 supercars is going to be another enduro race 250kms each day

no more stupid 11 or so "parade laps"

[Leigh]

How come they can't get around the Ch 7, Ch 10 coverage issue for the AGP, but they can for Singapore ? Or does Black Wiggle know something we don't ?

Ch 10 has exclusive rights for the entire event at Albert Park...at a guess, Ch 10 probably only pays for the rights to the F1 race at Singapore (not the support events).

[fordmad17]

And also on that. I thought I heard during the GP that they was only 1 support event which would make it a pretty boring weekend really....

[david5]

Ch 10 has exclusive rights for the entire event at Albert Park...at a guess, Ch 10 probably only pays for the rights to the F1 race at Singapore (not the support events).

That might be it.

[Rob]

it's supposed to be the Sandown round, and the above question was asked, and i only got one bite from (i think) Rob, who said something along the lines of wait and see. As if we'd tell anyone ;)

Yes, my lips are sealed on the Heritage Round....however the logistics of it make it hard...
at least this year due to the fact teams will be coming straight from Tassie the weekend b4.

Leigh had it right re CH10 F1 Coverage: CH10 are the "Local Host Broadcaster" for
the AGP while they have only bought the rights to the F1 telecast for all other events.

CH7 can show the V8's from Singapore while CH10 can still show the F1's.
The only way the AGP V8 event will be for points is if F1 and V8 are back
on the same channel.

Until the calendar is released, it's all speculation...of course!!!

[superfly]

Hmm T8 run HRT with GT and Whincup as the drivers what a powerhouse team that would be!!!

I guess one could dream.

Geez I hope not!! Tander is a tosser and so is HRT. It's bad enough Whincup is driving a Holden. It will be so much worse if he also drives for HRT.

[2QUIETLYCOLLECTATWORK]

Does it entale having Legend cars and Drivers at the track - if so who and will there be a list ?

LOTS of questions :)







Yes, my lips are sealed on the Heritage Round....however the logistics of it make it hard...
at least this year due to the fact teams will be coming straight from Tassie the weekend b4.

Leigh had it right re CH10 F1 Coverage: CH10 are the "Local Host Broadcaster" for
the AGP while they have only bought the rights to the F1 telecast for all other events.

CH7 can show the V8's from Singapore while CH10 can still show the F1's.
The only way the AGP V8 event will be for points is if F1 and V8 are back
on the same channel.

Until the calendar is released, it's all speculation...of course!!!

[barnart]

FPR No 6 car in 2011 will be backed by Telstra and driven by WILL so they are saying.

[louieate8ate]

FPR No 6 car in 2011 will be backed by Telstra and driven by WILL so they are saying.
Could be a good looking livery but I hope your "rumour" about the choice of driver is wrong.

[eddie2190]

Telstra Next G Racing/FPR?
Sounds good!

[Kashmir]

Geez I hope not!! Tander is a tosser and so is HRT. It's bad enough Whincup is driving a Holden. It will be so much worse if he also drives for HRT.

Hmm we all have different opinions, IMO I would love to see it plus it's great to see him in a Holden;):D

[infinity]

Hmm we all have different opinions, IMO I would love to see it plus it's great to see him in a Holden;):D
Well as Whincup himself seems quite quick to point out its not really a holden is it.Its all the same bits from last year with a vague resemblance to a holden.

[Buffalo]

Seems alls not rosy at DJR - always a shame to see these business dealings go sour but thats life I guess !

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor/dick-johnson-supercar-team-in-tatters/story-e6frey5r-1225935677552

[HRT1]

So... If will davo is unfortunately going to FPR in the #6 car & Charlie shwerkolt is getting out of DJR...

Does this mean James Courtney gets the #22 seat at HRT?? He has a get out clause in his contract if Charlie leaves...

[skaifeyfan2]

Seems alls not rosy at DJR - always a shame to see these business dealings go sour but thats life I guess !

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor/dick-johnson-supercar-team-in-tatters/story-e6frey5r-1225935677552

based off that, forklift man thinks (and fair enough) that Steve Johnson has to go from the team, but Dick won't let that happen

[VE II]

If he was to come to hrt, Based on this years performance Courtney deserves the no.2 car, with tander to 22 :p

I hope he stays at ford tho ("ford" - happy laz :p) - the sport needs it.
DJR probably have the best all round package on that side of the fence so I hope they can work it out.

[HRT1]

By the sounds of it Courtney is charlies boy & because Charlie obviously put dock johnsons nose out of joint by wanting to move Steve Johnson on, & rightly so... Hasn't it been an ambition in the back of courtney's mind to race a HRT machine since the 2005 enduro races??

I'm not a Courtney supporter so I'd find it hard to back him in the #22 car...

[edy]

Well this nonsense doesnt bid well for the team heading to Bathurst...

Maybe Courtney's championship aspirations will nosedive after this weekend.

[<Jonboy>]

Seems alls not rosy at DJR - always a shame to see these business dealings go sour but thats life I guess !

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor/dick-johnson-supercar-team-in-tatters/story-e6frey5r-1225935677552if it wasn't for the fact DJ is directly quoted in there, i would have said it's rubbish given who has written it... :(

forklift man thinks (and fair enough) that Steve Johnson has to go from the team
Charlie ...wanting to move Steve Johnson on, & rightly so... 12 in the championship, sure isn't a flash, but what are the options out there? In any case they are 2nd team on points, and Townsville certainly didn't contribute to Jnr's points tally. Yes there may be cause for a "quick" rather than "consistent" driver, but i would have thought 1 of each in a team is good?? :confused:

Hasn't it been an ambition in the back of courtney's mind to race a HRT machine since the 2005 enduro races??if thats the case should he not have taken the offer that Skaife gave him rather than turning his back and signing with SBR?

Well this nonsense doesnt bid well for the team heading to Bathurst...

Maybe Courtney's championship aspirations will nosedive after this weekend.i hope not :(

[HRT1]

I dont particularly want him at HRT but by the sound of it will davo is pretty much already at FPR so... Who else would be an option, as there aren't many floating around at the moment.

I guess Steve johnsons weight is holding him back from higher placings (read an article on it the other week)

[FastRedCars]

If he was to come to hrt, Based on this years performance Courtney deserves the no.2 car, with tander to 22 :p


If JC wins the 2010 C'ship, he gets to carry No1 next year, so HRT would have No1 for JC, and No2 for GT - I'd be happy with that !

[edy]

If JC wins the 2010 C'ship, he gets to carry No1 next year, so HRT would have No1 for JC, and No2 for GT - I'd be happy with that !

That's a big IF for JC

JC has held his nerve for most of the year, with all this pressure, it could all fall down!

JW has had his fair share of mechanical dramas.

If's time for JC's to begin this weekend!

[malscar]

Do you want JC to give up a good car for one that seems to be a bit of a dog?

[barnart]

Motorsport is full of rats and always will be, its a dog eat dog sport

[HRT1]

Do you want JC to give up a good car for one that seems to be a bit of a dog?

JC might not want to be there if his mate Charlie isn't?

[edy]

JC might not want to be there if his mate Charlie isn't?

I wonder if another 'Charlie' faction will leave - such as Adrian Burgess?

But I guess with the Hinkler becoming the new part owner, he will probably leave Dick to run the team....

[gab73]

based off that, forklift man thinks (and fair enough) that Steve Johnson has to go from the team, but Dick won't let that happen

Why "fair enough"?, 50% owner wants 100% say. Don't think so.

[brad]

wasn't Dick's share 51% ? you'd think he'd want to hang on to that so he could keep steve there.

[skaifeyfan2]

Why "fair enough"?, 50% owner wants 100% say. Don't think so.

fair enough to feel aggrieved because Johnson has not provided any real results for years now, imagine what you could do with 2 drivers regularly competing at the pointy end.

Clearly Dick is protective of Steve and fair enough to that too, but what comes first, the team or Steve?

[My Element]

steve is signed on for next year anyway.

[skaifeyfan2]

steve is signed on for next year anyway.

and therein lies the problem I'd assume

[singer]

fair enough to feel aggrieved because Johnson has not provided any real results for years now, imagine what you could do with 2 drivers regularly competing at the pointy end.

Clearly Dick is protective of Steve and fair enough to that too, but what comes first, the team or Steve?


Just because SJ isn't at No 1 position doesn't mean that he not a top competitor.

Remember, there is less than 2 secs between the top 20 V8SCs

[Numark83]

JC would need to move to Melbourne to be with HRT. If he wouldn't do that for FPR after their most competitive season in 2008, it's hard to see him joining HRT after one of their more disappointing seasons.

Plus, I think he enjoys being a lead driver. He wouldn't get that treatment at HRT.

[brad]

also Johnson is one of the better guys to have as a co-driver for Bathurst aswell so the rule change has hurt him. if you were to group the drivers together in regard to talent, you wouldn't find him in the top group, but still he'd be in the 2nd tier with another 23 people..

[Splatcat03]

Steven Johnson should have been moved on or made an endurance driver. JC is driving well and now would be the time to bring in a young guy, like SBR did with the Giz, perhaps DJR should have snaffled Webb. Alternatively, DJR should have made a big play at getting Will to return and run him and James in 17 and 18.
JC would have to have serious reservations joining HRT, considering his good mate Will is acting like a rat leaving a sinking ship.
If JC does move to HRT I hope he doesn't win the championship and Frosty does, hell, I would prefer Whincup to win it instead of JC.

[barnart]

It could be the only way No1 returns to a HRT car next year if JC wins and moves.

[louieate8ate]

Do you want JC to give up a good car for one that seems to be a bit of a dog?
At least that might sort out if it's the car or driver.

[awawaw]

Just because SJ isn't at No 1 position doesn't mean that he not a top competitor.

Remember, there is less than 2 secs between the top 20 V8SCs

Steve's always been a big boy too which doesnt help in this day and age.

[louieate8ate]

Why "fair enough"?, 50% owner wants 100% say. Don't think so.
No,he only wants to get 50% of the drivers changed.lol. But seriously,Dick won't push,Jnr would have to walk.

[barnart]

I think Will's moving camps now.

[singer]

I think Will's moving camps now.
If that is correct, I wonder whether Uncle Tom had anything to do with it:rolleyes:

[Kashmir]

If that is correct, I wonder whether Uncle Tom had anything to do with it:rolleyes:

Nope he's a saint:p

[barnart]

If that is correct, I wonder whether Uncle Tom had anything to do with it:rolleyes:

Forget Uncle Tom the wall has made the call I feel :D:D:D

[singer]

Forget Uncle Tom the wall has made the call I feel

From a front runner l/y (runner up in the Championship) to nothing with a dog of a Car this year, got to make you wonder:rolleyes::rolleyes::(

[edy]

Well, anyone reckon James Courtney will flee to HRT for 2011 with the demise of the Charlie S / Adrian Burgess faction in DJR!

[singer]

Well, anyone reckon James Courtney will flee to HRT for 2011 with the demise of the Charlie S / Adrian Burgess faction in DJR!
Don't think so, but then again stanger things have happenned

[louieate8ate]

Well, anyone reckon James Courtney will flee to HRT for 2011 with the demise of the Charlie S / Adrian Burgess faction in DJR!
If he goes I think DJR will not be as good as this year.I'm also not sure if a move to HRT would be helpful to Courtney.

[edy]

If he goes I think DJR will not be as good as this year.I'm also not sure if a move to HRT would be helpful to Courtney.

Didnt someone say on this forum that JC has an 'out' clause if Charlie is not there....

Also, next year will be JC"s 3rd year at DJR and the T8 customer cars will be 3 years old. Could they be not as competitive as this game is a moving feast.

I dont know if T8 Race Engineering develop these cars or build them for customers anymore?

[louieate8ate]

I think if Courtney wants to keep being competitive he needs to stay with a T8 car/chassis,be it a Commodore or Falcon.

[eddie2190]

Well, anyone reckon James Courtney will flee to HRT for 2011 with the demise of the Charlie S / Adrian Burgess faction in DJR!

It'd be damn stupid if he left to join a sinking ship.
Have a look at Walkinshaw and Fabian Coulthard; worst move ever!

Courtney was quoted as saying he originally joined Jim Beam (instead of FPR) because he'd have a better chance of winning races; something that the 22 car hasn't been able to even glimpse this year.

[<Jonboy>]

Didnt someone say on this forum that JC has an 'out' clause if Charlie is not there....they may have... doesn't necessarily mean it is true.

[2QUIETLYCOLLECTATWORK]

It is true - JS himself has said so

they may have... doesn't necessarily mean it is true.

[HRT1]

they may have... doesn't necessarily mean it is true.

Courtney has a get out clause in his favour if Charlie isn't part of DJR

[the_goldie]

Be ashame to see Davison leave HRT. It is not like he doesn't know how to drive, so why give him the boot! He seems to get on well with the team. Just because he has had 1 bad season doesn't mean he should be booted. He has potential to win, look at last year... Maybe the change in engineers has not worked???

I wouldn't like Courtney to leave either as there are not many Ford drivers flying the flag for them at the moment.

[HRT1]

It'd be a real big mistake if they get rid of will. His a great guy, can drive a car & they won't get anybody better

[singer]

It'd be a real big mistake if they get rid of will. His a great guy, can drive a car & they won't get anybody better

May be Will doesn't want them & is looking elsewhere for himself:confused:

[fordmad17]

May be Will doesn't want them & is looking elsewhere for himself:confused:

Thats what I think too.... I also think he will be in the #6 ford next year..

[skaifeyfan2]

I wonder if you'll have Courtney at FPR, WD at DJR, and then maybe Reynolds @ HRT? Assuming that WD hasn't already signed to FPR

[VE II]

It'll be sad to see Davo leave Holden - but im glad to see him out of HRT - i think this is the last straw in terms of supporting HRT now. Davo was a good replacement for skaife, but without him the teams far from the way it used to be.

I've heard quiet rumours of bundy red not being around next year??

Owen, Besnard, and Reynolds all must be up for a drive next year. I know coulthard has had a shocking year, but i hope he retains a main-game seat somewhere. Reynolds is a far better driver then Thompson - but im not sure the change of reynolds getting his old seat back?

I hope courtney stays at Ford. Maybe FPR can move to a 4 car team? (tho they struggle with 3 cars).

Is dumbrell hanging around next year? Its definitely been an impressive year from him... but wasnt there talk that he might have to run his dads business fulltime (autobarn?)

[inter]

Luff will possibly drive the Dumbrell owned Holden

[grease]

Is dumbrell hanging around next year? Its definitely been an impressive year from him... but wasnt there talk that he might have to run his dads business fulltime (autobarn?)

Somebody will have to do it soon I think.
He has had a good year and has performed better than a lot had expected this year.

[edy]

WD crashing out at Bathurst was very hard to swallow. Even his hot girlfriend was devastated.

3rd place would have been fitting for him in this torrid and toxic year he has had.

[edy]

I know there has been talk of Murph losing his seat....

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/10/11/murphy-sixth-frustrated-despite-best-result-of-2010/

Maybe the T8 car doesn't suit him. He can always ask Uncle Tom / Craig Wilson for a drive? He always seemed to do well with TWR cars, even a old car at Bathurst!

[VE II]

I doubt we'll see too many teams move to back ford this year. The biggest shake up will be end of 2011 with the COTF and opening up to other manufacturers. I wouldnt be surprised to see PMM and Kellys go. Holden's lucky that they signed 888 until end of '12.

Will v8supercars increase the number of licenses available when the COTF is introduced?

[HRT1]

Kelly's won't go anywhere...

[<Jonboy>]

Courtney has a get out clause in his favour if Charlie isn't part of DJRand you can prove that...???

even eNews can't claim to know that... or at least will only print it as a possibility

[XR8]

Yep, I hope Will gets to have a better year than he had this year. Sorry to see him crash yesterday.

Ed :)

[HRT1]

and you can prove that...???

even eNews can't claim to know that... or at least will only print it as a possibility

Of course I can't prove it, where would i get a hold of courtneys contract?
but it was highlighted in an article that I read last week.

[gab73]

I know there has been talk of Murph losing his seat....

http://www.speedcafe.com.au/2010/10/11/murphy-sixth-frustrated-despite-best-result-of-2010/

Maybe the T8 car doesn't suit him. He can always ask Uncle Tom / Craig Wilson for a drive? He always seemed to do well with TWR cars, even a old car at Bathurst!
It's not only Murph who is strugling with the 888 chasssis, Ingal did better last year in the PMM built car.

[david5]

Courtney to PMM with Trading post money. Murph was already shopping for 2011 enduro drives.

[VE II]

Trading post (Well Telstra which owns Trading post) - is supposed to be taking over the FPR no.6 sponsorship... well thats a rumour..

[MOTIV8]

It'll be sad to see Davo leave Holden - but im glad to see him out of HRT - i think this is the last straw in terms of supporting HRT now. Davo was a good replacement for skaife, but without him the teams far from the way it used to be.
..........

Owen, Besnard, and Reynolds all must be up for a drive next year.....


If you have a look at HRT's track record they always seem to bump the "2nd" driver so it would not surprise me at all if this happened.

I would really like to see Steve Owen get an opportunity to drive full time as he seems like he has the driving ability but unfortunately doesn't have the $$$$$ to compete with some of the others. Besnard on the other hand is a little past the useby date (IMO) as he made really strange decisions whilst driving fulltime last time and is a much better endurance driver than sprint driver.

Also have heard that Dumbrell is seriously thinking about staying on for one more year.

[edy]

Trading post (Well Telstra which owns Trading post) - is supposed to be taking over the FPR no.6 sponsorship... well thats a rumour..

So I guess BJR or Brighty have to find a new sponsor for Brights car.

Nice livery. Shame it will only last for one year :mad:

[edy]

It's not only Murph who is strugling with the 888 chasssis, Ingal did better last year in the PMM built car.

That's why PMM and T8 will have a closer technical alliance next year.

[david5]

Trading post (Well Telstra which owns Trading post) - is supposed to be taking over the FPR no.6 sponsorship... well thats a rumour..

Big pond branding there apparently, heard that from several people & the Trading post money to PMM. I would imagine both brands have their own PR/advertising budget. We shall see.

[the_goldie]

Would it be a great loss to see Coulthard not get a main drive and someone else jump in? I don't recall him ever doing anything of note??? Reynolds should never have lost his seat this year. He drove excellent at Bathurst.

Hopefully Davison stays with HRT but seems unlikely with the talk going on...

[<Jonboy>]

Of course I can't prove it, where would i get a hold of courtneys contract?
but it was highlighted in an article that I read last week.
it was highlighted that he did have such a clause, or that he may have such a clause?

care to comment on what article that was?

[FastRedCars]

..................The biggest shake up will be end of 2011 with the COTF and opening up to other manufacturers. I wouldnt be surprised to see PMM and Kellys go..............

I would ! PMM has other links to Holden (eg the Driving Centre) IIRC (and yes, I remember that PMM was originally with BMW in the 2-litres, and that the driver centre was originally BMW); and the Kelly's seem to be very wedded to Holden (though I am not aware of the underlying reasons). But I would be surprised if either of these 2 teams went to Ford, or to another marque (if any join with COTF). Then again, when you think back, surprising things happen - Dick Johnson is a rolled-gold Ford icon, but he started out as a Holden man - so anything is possible.
I think new marques will form new teams, some based on existing lesser teams. I guess it depends what manufacturers decide to join, if any.

[FastRedCars]

and you can prove that...???

even eNews can't claim to know that... or at least will only print it as a possibility

Of course I can't prove it, where would i get a hold of courtneys contract?
but it was highlighted in an article that I read last week.

it was highlighted that he did have such a clause, or that he may have such a clause?

care to comment on what article that was?

Sorry, but...umm, it pays to remember that this thread is entitled: ".....Rumours & Gossip" - not ".....Facts & Figures". Just thought I'd mention that, before it gets too heated. (I'll but-out now.)

[eddie2190]

Big pond branding there apparently, heard that from several people & the Trading post money to PMM. I would imagine both brands have their own PR/advertising budget. We shall see.

Would that mean Castrol money to BJR and Jason Bright car 14 or Castrol leaving?

What are the chances of Steven Richards going to LDM?? He is after experience...

And why doesn't Westrac CAT step up again to be naming rights sponsor of car 6 again? Their television advertising campaigning is quite aggressive at the moment.

[edy]

Sorry, but...umm, it pays to remember that this thread is entitled: ".....Rumours & Gossip" - not ".....Facts & Figures". Just thought I'd mention that, before it gets too heated. (I'll but-out now.)

I agree.... this post was getting very heated! There is no need for that.

[<Jonboy>]

Sorry, but...umm, it pays to remember that this thread is entitled: ".....Rumours & Gossip" - not ".....Facts & Figures". Just thought I'd mention that, before it gets too heated. (I'll but-out now.)
with you there FRC, except when it is mentioned that "Courtney has a get out clause"

[david5]

Would that mean Castrol money to BJR and Jason Bright car 14 or Castrol leaving?

What are the chances of Steven Richards going to LDM?? He is after experience...

And why doesn't Westrac CAT step up again to be naming rights sponsor of car 6 again? Their television advertising campaigning is quite aggressive at the moment.

Don't know what's happening with the Castrol money, is it linked to Murph ? Are they only running two cars @ PMM next year ? 888 have an embarrasment of riches with Mother busting to sponsor a car, could we see a car or two added to the 888 stable & satelite teams ??

Several young guys have put their hands up after the enduros & some not so young as well.

[Chev_350]

Don't know what's happening with the Castrol money, is it linked to Murph ? Are they only running two cars @ PMM next year ? 888 have an embarrasment of riches with Mother busting to sponsor a car, could we see a car or two added to the 888 stable & satelite teams ??

Mother already sponsor a car.....Monster really does want to sponsor a car, it seems with every passing race they have more signage on the #51 and both drivers of the #1 at Bathurst had Monster on their helmets. Steve Owen to a Monster sponsored car?

[Chev_350]

Would it be a great loss to see Coulthard not get a main drive and someone else jump in? I don't recall him ever doing anything of note??? Reynolds should never have lost his seat this year. He drove excellent at Bathurst

I dont know why they chose Andrew Thompson to replace Reynolds...Mark Skaife has more points then him!

[david5]

Mother already sponsor a car.....Monster really does want to sponsor a car, it seems with every passing race they have more signage on the #51 and both drivers of the #1 at Bathurst had Monster on their helmets. Steve Owen to a Monster sponsored car?

Yes sorry I meant Monster, all these energy drinks taste the same to me. :rolleyes:

[eddie2190]

I dont know why they chose Andrew Thompson to replace Reynolds...Mark Skaife has more points then him!

Apparently he brought more money with him.

I am personally a Reynolds fan but Thompson and the whole Bundy team have had a horrible year.

I don't think Reynolds is quite ready for a main game seat at HRT but would go well at LDM, but would be restrained by equipment, which would put his position in jeopardy for 2012.

[HRT1]

with you there FRC, except when it is mentioned that "Courtney has a get out clause"


"It is understood that Courtney, the sport's hottest talent, is one of a number of employees who have get-out clauses in their contracts should Schwerkolt sell his stake in the business.

Mining magnate Nathan Tinkler will today fork out a rumoured $4 million to buy the half share in the team that is owned by disgruntled forklift entrepreneur Charlie Schwerkolt. The move has championship leader James Courtney considering abandoning the final year of his contract."

sorry wasnt meaning to upset people by posting something to add to the rumour mill.... thats what this thread is. nothing said here is a true statement until it happens in pit lane

[spiderken17]

i seem to remember reading Monster wanting to only put their name as a major sponsor on a leading team, if they cannot do that then they would rather be a minor sponsor on a top team than a major sponsor on an average team.

[barnart]

I think Uncle Tom is going back to only 2 licenses in 2011, so who is cashed up to buy them?

[HRT1]

I think Uncle Tom is going back to only 2 licenses in 2011, so who is cashed up to buy them?
i heard this also.... the demise of team bundy red

[spiderken17]

to be honest i am still surprised Red Bull haven't got in on the act. They sponsor teams in nearly every form of motorsport in the world, i'm surprised they haven't made more of a mark on V8's.

[VE II]

re: redbull - it is suprising - especially with the prominence of all the other energy drink teams - you'd think they would want to make their mark. Maybe there isnt a team high enough profile for them at this stage? there would be the kellys but they have jack daniels.

Will FPR and SBR go to 4 cars each? I wonder if bundaberg rum will keep wanting to sponsor cars? or pull out of the sport all together?

[barnart]

Delberto was talking about a 2nd license a while ago

[Sandman77]

If Tom sell the Bundy licences I hope who ever buys the runs Fords, as theres just too many Holden running about, and thats coming from a Holden fan. Maybe V8supercars should adopt a symilar system to the V8 utes (15 Holden licenses and 15 Ford) doesn't have to be exactly like that but maybe something like no more than 16 cars per manufacturer

[HRT1]

has anyone read enews this week? interesting small article on courtney/shwerkolt/burgess....

linking a possible courtney/adrian burgess move to PMM in the current murphy seat if a lot of things were to fall into place. wouldnt of guessed something like that but it seems half logical?

[AD2780]

Saw alot of Jack Daniels merchandise going cheap at Bathurst on the weekend, and similar specials from the Lions Den. It all looks like this years stock, and has got me wondering if they may have a change of sponsorship next year and are trying to offload this seasons stuff cheap. Do the Kellys have a contract with Jack Daniel for next year ???

Cheers, AD2780

[Cracker]

Saw alot of Jack Daniels merchandise going cheap at Bathurst on the weekend, and similar specials from the Lions Den. It all looks like this years stock, and has got me wondering if they may have a change of sponsorship next year and are trying to offload this seasons stuff cheap. Do the Kellys have a contract with Jack Daniel for next year ???

Cheers, AD2780

I think they do but not sure if it is for two cars?

I believe Rick Kelly will drive a Red Bull car.

I have heard nothing regarding a Monster car. Although they are spending mountains of money in Australia.

Pretty sure there will be backing from a major soft drink brand that will have naming rights to a team.

[Leigh]

Saw alot of Jack Daniels merchandise going cheap at Bathurst on the weekend, and similar specials from the Lions Den. It all looks like this years stock, and has got me wondering if they may have a change of sponsorship next year and are trying to offload this seasons stuff cheap. Do the Kellys have a contract with Jack Daniel for next year ???

Cheers, AD2780

FPR merch was going for up to 50% off, Vodafone was 30-40% off, HRT was 20-30 % off, I even found one tent/van selling some Bathurst 1000 2010 merch for 10 - 15 % off...

Unless every team is changing sponsors, I'd say they were just off-loading excess stock ready for new designs next year (although the Bathurst 1000 merch I believe was just a stuff up:D).

[troym]

i think they are feeling the pinch on sales like every retail outlet, remember the lions den clearance sales a few months ago, some real bargins especially on the model cars, i find myself now buying last years cars at reduced prices, i picked up the BOC car a few months ago for $99.00, from the lions den,

[Sandman77]

I think they do but not sure if it is for two cars?

I believe Rick Kelly will drive a Red Bull car.

I have heard nothing regarding a Monster car. Although they are spending mountains of money in Australia.

Pretty sure there will be backing from a major soft drink brand that will have naming rights to a team.
I really hope so, a Red Bull car would look awesome.
Also I know Monster wanted to have more of an involvement in the sport, they wanted to have minor sponsorship on Whincups car, similar to Murphy's I think but it was't able to be fitted around the Vodafone sponsorship. But I think a full Monster car could be in the pipeline in the not to distant future. I'm hoping for a full monster car sometime, it would make a great livery and a great model:)

[fordmad17]

They was a interview on tellie can't remember the show, but they (Mother) want to sponsor T8 and are willing to wait as long as it takes to get on that car. He was saying the money is there but don't wanna waste it on a back marker...

[My Element]

They was a interview on tellie can't remember the show, but they (Mother) want to sponsor T8 and are willing to wait as long as it takes to get on that car. He was saying the money is there but don't wanna waste it on a back marker...

I think you meant Monster energy, as whincup has them as a personal sponsor.. And the deal with vodafone wont allow any more sponsors on the car. That is why they have to wait.

[fordmad17]

Yes Yes Monster my bad.

[barnart]

I think you meant Monster energy, as whincup has them as a personal sponsor.. And the deal with vodafone wont allow any more sponsors on the car. That is why they have to wait.

There seems to be a lot of sponsors on the inside of the T8 cars which don't appear on the outside. Hogs Breath is now all over the door trim area.

[yap]

Saw alot of Jack Daniels merchandise going cheap at Bathurst on the weekend, and similar specials from the Lions Den. It all looks like this years stock, and has got me wondering if they may have a change of sponsorship next year and are trying to offload this seasons stuff cheap. Do the Kellys have a contract with Jack Daniel for next year ???

Cheers, AD2780

I am wondering the same with FPR and Orrcon

BIG discounts on anything Orrcon branded

[FastRedCars]

Don't know what's happening with the Castrol money, is it linked to Murph ?...................

IIRC, the Castrol / PMM link is more to do with a Super Cheap Auto - Castrol corporate partnership, than it is to do with Murph. Plus, if you think back, Murph is not a long time Castrol man (in the way Larry was) - he was Fuchs before, and Mobil previously, to name two rival oils.

Yes sorry I meant Monster, all these energy drinks taste the same to me. :rolleyes:
You mean you actually DRINK this stuff !? I thought it was for young blokes, so that they could, umm......,perform, longer. LOL!

i seem to remember reading Monster wanting to only put their name as a major sponsor on a leading team, if they cannot do that then they would rather be a minor sponsor on a top team than a major sponsor on an average team.
Yeah, that's what I heard (but this could be a cyclic rumour). How about this - maybe they are waiting for JW to be out of contract with T8, then give him naming rights sponsorship on a Falcon !!

I think Uncle Tom is going back to only 2 licenses in 2011, so who is cashed up to buy them?
Would that be right ? - given the number of Teams/Drivers who have said, that with limited testing now in V8SC, you can't really be on top with just 1 or 2 cars, or that your engineering staff need to be working on more than two cars (ah, I hope you know what I'm trying to say - going back to just 2 cars would be a competitive backward step). So would Tom do this - particularly if the 2nd team pays its way, despite the on track results ?

to be honest i am still surprised Red Bull haven't got in on the act..............................

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I believe Rick Kelly will drive a Red Bull car.

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I am wondering if Red Bull is just waiting for Rick Kelly to be available to have a title sponsored car ? - he never seems to have a can out of his hand when interviewed. And is it still his helmet sponsor ?
I also imagine that RB is in no particular hurry to do a full livery - I reckon they are getting plenty of exposure in Aus at the moment, with Australia's Mark Webber carrying the RB flag very high indeed. So there is less pressure to enter V8SC, for the time being.

Just my thought's for now, on 2011 Rumours and Gossip. Cheers, Jim.

[VXfan]

IIRC, the Castrol / PMM link is more to do with a Super Cheap Auto - Castrol corporate partnership, than it is to do with Murph. Plus, if you think back, Murph is not a long time Castrol man (in the way Larry was) - he was Fuchs before, and Mobil previously, to name two rival oils.

Maybe not as much as Larry but every Murph car for 7 seasons straight featured fairly prominant Castrol signage (2000-2006) though granted the last 2 were with SCAR.
I have a bad feeling about Murph next year,I don't think all is particularly rosy with him and the folks at PMM
Cheers,.
Tony

[wayno]

Judging by the look on his face all week-end I think you might be right Tony.

[My Element]

Yes Yes Monster my bad.

didnt mean to be a know it all, and correct you sorry, but i knew Mother was on the DJR car. And whincup was sponsored by Monster... Its easy to get the two mixed up.

[My Element]

Maybe not as much as Larry but every Murph car for 7 seasons straight featured fairly prominant Castrol signage (2000-2006) though granted the last 2 were with SCAR.
I have a bad feeling about Murph next year,I don't think all is particularly rosy with him and the folks at PMM
Cheers,.
Tony


Murphy to HRT?

[VXfan]

Murphy to HRT?
No disrepect to Murph but I don't think they'd want him.Already have an experienced head in GT.2nd seat should be for a young talent imho.
He really needs to get his head together,PMM is a great opportunity in great machinery.Unfortunately you can bring the horse to water etc.....

[david5]

You mean you actually DRINK this stuff !? I thought it was for young blokes, so that they could, umm......,perform, longer. LOL!




Sorry mate, no idea, sounds like you know all about it though. ;)

[wayno]

Murphy to HRT?

As a co-driver maybe. Big money to be made for the guys who have just retired from the main game with the splitting the driver rule.

[Oh Five]

Saw murf quite abit between Wed and Sat, he didnt seem himself. Obliged with autographs etc, but lacked his usual spark and wit.

[FastRedCars]

Maybe his back is still giving him some niggle ?

[Leigh]

Maybe not as much as Larry but every Murph car for 7 seasons straight featured fairly prominant Castrol signage (2000-2006) though granted the last 2 were with SCAR.
I have a bad feeling about Murph next year,I don't think all is particularly rosy with him and the folks at PMM
Cheers,.
Tony

He has had major issues with getting the T8 set-up and performing...going so far as publically blaming the equipment. PMM have never been kind to drivers who blame the equipment...

Is Murph the worst performing T8 chassied (sp) "paid" driver in the category?

[brchi17]

He has had major issues with getting the T8 set-up and performing...going so far as publically blaming the equipment. PMM have never been kind to drivers who blame the equipment...

Is Murph the worst performing T8 chassied (sp) "paid" driver in the category?

He defiantely is of the red T8 cars, as I think it's only Dean Fiore who is lower in the championship than Murph as all 3 DJR cars (T8 chassis) are in the top 15. I must admit if ever there was a good time for Murph to retire, now would be it as he of all people would have no trouble in getting one of the 'better' drives for the enduros.

[skaifeyfan2]

He has had major issues with getting the T8 set-up and performing...going so far as publically blaming the equipment. PMM have never been kind to drivers who blame the equipment...

Is Murph the worst performing T8 chassied (sp) "paid" driver in the category?

Best thing for Murph is that Ingall has been going horrible this year as well. If Ingall was going well it'd look even worse.

[louieate8ate]

Best thing for Murph is that Ingall has been going horrible this year as well. If Ingall was going well it'd look even worse.
Is Ingall whinging about his car?? Haven't heard about him saying it's not good.

[barnart]

The following is going to hurt DJR

Adrian Burgess will leave Dick Johnson Racing at the end of this season to become team principal of TeamVodafone in 2011.

[brchi17]

The following is going to hurt DJR

Adrian Burgess will leave Dick Johnson Racing at the end of this season to become team principal of TeamVodafone in 2011.

will be very interesting to see where this leaves JC as from memory Adrian was a big factor in securing his signature...if only ole Dick had let them replace the driver of #17 then all this may have been avoided....:(

[mick xu1]

The following is going to hurt DJR

Adrian Burgess will leave Dick Johnson Racing at the end of this season to become team principal of TeamVodafone in 2011.

I think this only the start of a lot more to come....they also have john russell,ken douglas..some big hitters there for one team....if i was uncle tom i would be worried

[Chev_350]

And DJR comes crashing down....

[barnart]

And DJR comes crashing down....

Thats all Ford needs

[spiderken17]

Not happy:(

[brchi17]

Not happy:(

I understand and feel your pain also, however if the rumors of a failed mutiny are correct, then there are always going to be casualties...:sad:

[Splatcat03]

Could it be possible that Team Vodafone will release Lowndes for 2011 and replace him with Courtney. That would give Lowndes the chance to return to Ford, Courtney would be able to follow Burgess and would make T8 dominant for years to come.

[Bones]

Could it be possible that Team Vodafone will release Lowndes for 2011 and replace him with Courtney. That would give Lowndes the chance to return to Ford, Courtney would be able to follow Burgess and would make T8 dominant for years to come.


Fat Chance! :D

[spiderken17]

I understand and feel your pain also, however if the rumors of a failed mutiny are correct, then there are always going to be casualties...:sad:

I am really dissapointed with all the off-track dramas. Its been a tough previous decade for die-hard DJR fans like myself, on and off the track (in 05 i was cheering if we got a top 10 finish in a race). Just when things start to look on the up and up everything goes pear-shaped and we have to worry what The Team will be like next year. Its massively frustrating. :(

[barnart]

Could it be possible that Team Vodafone will release Lowndes for 2011 and replace him with Courtney. That would give Lowndes the chance to return to Ford, Courtney would be able to follow Burgess and would make T8 dominant for years to come.

CL will finish his racing career with 888

[Bones]

CL will finish his racing career with 888


Never a truer coment said

[barnart]

Unless JW races nascars he will also see his career out at 888