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blazer
11-11-2003, 06:46 PM
Cant say there has been much produced lately that I would consider buying. I keep looking at this site in the hope that maybe biante have produced more 1/18 Holden road cars. It seems they are more focused on 1/64 & 1/43. Can't understand why anyone would buy these little cars when you can buy a highly detailed version in 1/18 with opening doors etc. Can't understand why biante persist to keep manufacturing 1/64 & 1/43 when the majority of collector's are wanting 1/18. Bring out the Holden ute's in 1/18 and see how quick they sell. Bring out the classic Group A Commodores VK/VL in 1/18. Or maybe the group 3 VC & VHSS. I guess the only upside to all of this it gives people time to save there $$$$.

Odin
11-11-2003, 06:51 PM
it takes something like 6 to 9 months to make a model from design to the shop(from what I heard) Biante can only put so many models into production at one time. Also many people can only really afford the hobby if they stick to the smaller scales.

blazer
11-11-2003, 06:59 PM
Here what you are saying Odin but wouldn't biante already have tooling for say the VL Group A. It wouldnt take to much to produce this as they have already produced the Walkinshaw. I also here what you are saying about the affordability but i would rather have 1 you beaut 1/18 highly detailed biante classic than 3 not so detailed 1/43.

biante1948
11-11-2003, 07:35 PM
Maybe there are too many earlier released Holden Commodore models still out there and maybe Holden have asked for a break so they can unload some of their old stock.
Who Knows???
And if I remember correctly I think Classic carlectable are doing the late model Holden Utes in 1:18 scale.
Be patient.
All good things come to he who waits.

the_goldie
11-11-2003, 07:59 PM
There are not that many older Holdens out there. Holden fans only just got the HT Monaro in race trim from the 69 race, there are 5 toranas (4brocks) and are hard to find. So I doubt the shops have too many old Holdens laying around. Even the 1990 VL is hard to come by, well I don't see many on the auction sites.

I hear what you are saying blazer but be patient mate. There is the VR and VS in production planned but as for pre 1987 race cars I do not know of any Holdens that do not have Marlboro on it so they are a looong way off... Brocks 75 Bathurst winner will be nice in the meantime ;)

CCs utes should be out soon in 1:18.

wayno
11-11-2003, 10:44 PM
I can think of PLENTY of non Marlboro early Holdens I want!

biante1478
12-11-2003, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by blazer
......when the majority of collector's are wanting 1/18.

Says who ?

My read of the threads in this forum says 1/43 is the most popular scale.

For example --
http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2429&highlight=scales

the_goldie
12-11-2003, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by wayno
I can think of PLENTY of non Marlboro early Holdens I want!

Sorry wayno - I meant in production planned or other Brock Bathurst cars which alot of people are waiting for. I can think of heaps as well :D

Leigh
12-11-2003, 06:50 AM
I was thinking the same biante1478, but then I found this

http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1278

I think its time for another poll to find out the CURRENT trend...

Cheers
Leigh

Elvis
12-11-2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by biante1478
[B]Says who ?

My read of the threads in this forum says 1/43 is the most popular scale.


Says who? How dare you use that tone of voice on Blazer:D
I think you are both right,discussions on this forum would probably suggest that 1/64 and 1/43 is more popular but in the real world,such as the Auction site 1/18 rules the roost,and in model model shops=1/43 just dont sell,all the 1/18s are long gone.......Brocks,Johnsons,Lowndes,Skaifes,all going very quickly.
1/18 may be more expensive,but you pay for the detail such as,you can view the engine,the boot opens and the doors,things such as working handbrake leavers probably will never be seen on a 1/43 BA Falcon.Unlike the 1/18 version in the prototype section.

jager
12-11-2003, 07:21 AM
Can't understand why biante persist to keep manufacturing 1/64 & 1/43 when the majority of collector's are wanting 1/18

Judging by comments on the forum, it is apparent that as some collections get to 100 plus cars that lack of physical space is starting to become an issue for some collectors. In the same space you can display probably 400 1:43 scale cars and perhaps 1000 1:64 models. Not everyone has a 4 car garage in which to display their models hence the popularity of smaller scales.

1/43 just dont sell,all the 1/18s are long gone.......Brocks,Johnsons......all going very quickly.

I think you'd find that if Biante had produced Moffats GTHO Falcons, Brock's Torana's or the DJR Sierra in 1:43 these would have sold out just as fast as their larger cousins. The slower sales of 1:43 is due to the choice of subject not the scale.

ferrari fan
12-11-2003, 09:40 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jager
[B]Judging by comments on the forum, it is apparent that as some collections get to 100 plus cars that lack of physical space is starting to become an issue for some collectors. Not everyone has a 4 car garage in which to display their models hence the popularity of smaller scales.

The garage is for 1/1 models .These DO take up space!!
What is wrong with a little extension or like your good self ,designer build custom palace with more than ample room:)

A house without a nicely displayed collection is not a home!
Models especially 1/18 ,are works of art anyway. :D

the_goldie
12-11-2003, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by ferrari fan

The garage is for 1/1 models .These DO take up space!!
What is wrong with a little extension or like your good self ,designer build custom palace with more than ample room:)

A house without a nicely displayed collection is not a home!
Models especially 1/18 ,are works of art anyway. :D [/B]

Have to agree with FF. I had to get a new cabinet built because my other one was full. Sold it off and built a bigger one which can hold approximately 90 1:18 models. This will take me some time to fill as I have my limits on the models I collect, although sometimes it is hard. Once this is full I will be hard pressed to get another cabinet the size of my current one though.

wayno
12-11-2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by ferrari fan
[QUOTE]Originally posted by jager
[B]A house without a nicely displayed collection is not a home!
Models especially 1/18 ,are works of art anyway. :D

Even 'Barbie' cars? :D

zeitgeist
13-11-2003, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by wayno
Even 'Barbie' cars? :D


Hmmm. When I was a kid, if my cousin wasn't nearby, I distinctly remember running her Barbie GMC motorhome through the ground floor of Barbie's Dream Home (usually/hopefully running over a hapless Barbie in the process) and it certainly was larger than 1:18.

Fun? Yes. Work of art? No. :)

BC

Goodwrench3
14-11-2003, 10:13 AM
I'm living in a town-house at present with 100ish 1/18 die-casts in boxes in the spare room. We're gonna move purely because I want a house custom designed for my model car collection and a bar room to dispaly all sorts of other stuff collected in my travels.
I'm extremely fortunate that my better half is very supportive of my habit er, sorry, hobby! And she's an accountant! And a Scottish one at that!!!
So the size thing is a consideration, but I'll keep building around my model car collection, not the other way around.

jager
14-11-2003, 11:58 AM
We're gonna move purely because I want a house custom designed for my model car collection

I'm also in the process of building a new home, with a dedicated room for the models - as are several other forum members that I've read about in the last 6 months. Wonder how much of the current boom in new housing is due to Biante !

Goodwrench3
14-11-2003, 03:31 PM
I should think there maybe some truth in that jager!
The first thing we look at when looking at house's is the BIG room for the models and other memorabillia! Keeping in mind that the collection will only expand in the next few years..............