1967 Bathurst winner in 1/18.

[ferrari fan]

There is an impending release by C.C. announced of the 1967 FORD Bathurst winner in scale 1/18.
My Question is ; Will BIANTE bring this winner out as well and if possible in what sort of timeframe?

I for one would like to add this model to my ever nicer collection of Bathurst winners.
I for one , will wait if the model is also made by BIANTE

[teambrock50]

Ferrari Fan how come you dont like Classic Carlectables. Well thats the vibe i get from you???
Would be interested in your thoughts.

[inter]

I agree with ferrari fan, if Biante release the model i will wait for it. If they do not i will buy CC.
inter[U]

[admin]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
There is an impending release by C.C. announced of the 1967 FORD Bathurst winner in scale 1/18.
My Question is ; Will BIANTE bring this winner out as well and if possible in what sort of timeframe?

I for one would like to add this model to my ever nicer collection of Bathurst winners.
I for one , will wait if the model is also made by BIANTE

Yes we will.
Was talking to Harry yesterday and with his invaluable input, we will release this car later this year in correct format and livery. Certificate will be signed by Harry and Fred.

[inter]

Originally posted by admin
Yes we will.
Was talking to Harry yesterday and with his invaluable input, we will release this car later this year in correct format and livery. Certificate will be signed by Harry and Fred.
Well done
inter:D

[Nick Short]

Cor, a direct head-to-head! I'd be fascinated to hear people's opinions of the two. Biante will be cheaper, and we know they will be damn good, so would it be brand loyalty only that would make people buy CC, or are they worth the extra? It's academic for me, as I'm not after the model, but if Biante were to make the silver E49.........

[the_goldie]

Originally posted by admin
Yes we will.
Was talking to Harry yesterday and with his invaluable input, we will release this car later this year in correct format and livery. Certificate will be signed by Harry and Fred.

Wow later this year hey?! When you say correct livery and format - does this imply the CCs version is incorrect? Look forward to seeing it in Develpment Approved status.

[admin]

Originally posted by the_goldie
Wow later this year hey?! When you say correct livery and format - does this imply the CCs version is incorrect? Look forward to seeing it in Develpment Approved status.
No, it doesnt imply anything other than Harry is making sure the car is correct!

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by teambrock50
Ferrari Fan how come you dont like Classic Carlectables. Well thats the vibe i get from you???
Would be interested in your thoughts.

I have nothing agains the current crop of C.C. models, I actualy do have a few.
I also have a few of the 1th issue and that is another, well discussed, matter.
I prefer to have ,if possible, the complete Bathurast series made by 1 manufacturer,just me, and if that is possible I will bypass the offering from any other brand.
If not possible then I get whatever anybody makes to get the series to my satisfaction.
I do have the 1999 Murph series1 winner, but will dispence with this as soon as the BIANTE will be available.
So it comes down to personal choice in the end.

[Riddler]

Originally posted by admin
Yes we will.
Was talking to Harry yesterday and with his invaluable input, we will release this car later this year in correct format and livery. Certificate will be signed by Harry and Fred.
Great news Admin...

I will hold out for the Biante version now...

[Maximus]

It is good to see Biante making these cars as I would have preferred to originally buy Biante, but with the closed box, no screws and boots & bonnets that actually stay up Classics were the go for me, even if they are more expensive.


Cheers

[Gan88]

More expensive? Yes.

Worth the $5 bucks extra? Most definitely!

[ferrari fan]

The models being bolted down is my prefered way of receiving them, loose is movement and can add up to damage.
A few 'loose screws arround is never bad,.. ohhh shi-yte..... the cheese is slipping again!

Thank you Trevor for making it easy for me to deceide which one to have.
After the XR GT issue ,that is still in my possesion,for sale at issue price, any takers?, I will wait for the BIANTE issue for sure

[brchi17]

Originally posted by Nick Short
Cor, a direct head-to-head! I'd be fascinated to hear people's opinions of the two. Biante will be cheaper, and we know they will be damn good, so would it be brand loyalty only that would make people buy CC, or are they worth the extra? It's academic for me, as I'm not after the model, but if Biante were to make the silver E49.........

I would lke to think while band loyalty is important, people buy what they think is the best model. For mine, I like having a signed COA (even though the car is far more important) but it's not the most important factor in choosing a model.

If they are priced the same & one is clearly better in quality than the other, then I think you'd have to forget your brand loyalty & buy which is ever the best model.

cheers. :)

[the_goldie]

Dont forget CCs will be $195 while Biantes will probably be around $165.

[Esses]

.....and for we 1/43 collectors, CC are $40-00 & Biante are $50-00 to $70-00 (for the 05 Targa Monaro). Quality these days at this scale is line-ball. I have the Bathurst-winning XR by CC in 1/43 & it's beaut, mate.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
The models being bolted down is my prefered way of receiving them, loose is movement and can add up to damage.
A few 'loose screws arround is never bad,.. ohhh shi-yte..... the cheese is slipping again!

Thank you Trevor for making it easy for me to deceide which one to have.
After the XR GT issue ,that is still in my possesion,for sale at issue price, any takers?, I will wait for the BIANTE issue for sure

Here is the comparison picture between CC & Biante....

[biante11500]

we were having the same debate over here on our diecast pub a while back. about models shipped on a base with four screw holes in the floor pan and a clear plastic window vs the styrafoam shell type packaging that a few of the top manufactures have went to. i have a bunch of lane exact detail,exoto & classic carlectable models that have been shipped in the styrafoam shell box and i havent had a damaged model yet. knock on wood. the old window type is good for people who dont have space to display there models. but as far as the appearance of the model goes. i preffer the new starafoam shell box with no screws in the models chassis.:D

[berkut76]

Back to original topic. Since neither of XRs is out yet we can only speculate as to which one will be a better model and/or present a better value of the collectors.

If the difference between the two will be on the level of BA Falcons both in various street and race guises, well there is no difference to justify the price gap between CC and Biante.

If, on the other hand, the XRs will line up along the lines of current racing VY models from both companies, than at least for me, the Classic product will be worth the extra bills.

As being mentioned before across many threads on this board, we are talking about models not status symbols, thus, the name on the box would mean little to me if the product under review is worse than its direct competition.

Regards,

Sergey

[Esses]

......."models not status symbols". Sergey, that's the sanest thing I've heard on this Forum! I was looking at tap sets in the Hardware Store today & the Salesy asked "Rolls-Royce or Holden, mate?" I replied "Ford!" (I drive one:D ) then "They're taps on the sink, not a cabin-cruiser, Holden will do."

[oldxr]

I'll get one from EACH maker!

[timbo333]

Hey Bert!!!

The picture attachment actually worked. See above.


Cheers,

Timbo.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by timbo333
Hey Bert!!!

The picture attachment actually worked. See above.


Cheers,

Timbo.

You are a star, so now I will try some more:confused:

[ferrari fan]

Remember this ,that BIANTE WILL make this model ,later in this year, and you do not be left with a double of this.
The green model seems to have the same flaw in the body mould as the XR GT, sadly.
Still no takers for this flawed, and therefore unwanted model
:mad:

[RMM]

Ferrari Fan you need to put your other eye back in your bias towards biante on their own forum is a little sad.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by RMM
Ferrari Fan you need to put your other eye back in your bias towards biante on their own forum is a little sad.

If I need any advise regarding my vision imperments ,I will ask for it ,respectfully, at the appropreate time, Thank You.

[Gan88]

What is this flaw Bert?

I haven't got this car (the XR GT) at the moment, but I do have the 52D on order. So far I haven't been able to pick anything wrong with it.

[diecastdude]

I had ordered the XR Bathurst winner through my retailer but have since cancelled that order after purchasing the gold XR. Stand alone I see nothing wrong with the gold XR but once you put it along side the Biante XW and XY's it just doesn't sit the same, the XR wheels are smaller the car sits lower, I don't know who's dimensions are wrong be it Biante or CC's but having more Biante X series in the cabinet I will wait for the Biante XR Bathurst and future XR road cars purely so they will all sit the same.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Here is the comparison picture between CC & Biante....

see picture.

[teambrock50]

Here are some photos of Classic Carlectables XT GT Bathurst Winner
http://home.iprimus.com.au/lowndes00/engine.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/lowndes00/52dfront.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/lowndes00/dash.jpg
http://home.iprimus.com.au/lowndes00/boot.jpg

[teambrock50]

Sorry XR GT Bathurst winner stupid me.

Ferrari Fan whats the flaw?

[BATHURSTFAN]

Since admin advised the certificate will be signed by the drivers that an attractive thing for me.

Its a hard decision, I would have to compare them but they are only making 2500 CC 1:18 versions, don't know how many Biante ones.

At the moment I'm leaning towards the Biante version myself

[Goodwrench3]

I have nothing at all against CC's, but I'll await the Biante release. Because it'll be cheaper and be the officially blessed version by The Fox.

[69Mach1]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
The models being bolted down is my prefered way of receiving them, loose is movement and can add up to damage.
A few 'loose screws arround is never bad,.. ohhh shi-yte..... the cheese is slipping again!

Thank you Trevor for making it easy for me to deceide which one to have.
After the XR GT issue ,that is still in my possesion,for sale at issue price, any takers?, I will wait for the BIANTE issue for sure

If the model CC is not up to your high standards i will pay you $150 . Think about it as an unwanted gift .

[69Mach1]

Ferrari

Bring it to Malaga, i have the cash with me today.

[gab73]

originally posted by diecastdude
I had ordered the XR Bathurst winner through my retailer but have since cancelled that order after purchasing the gold XR. Stand alone I see nothing wrong with the gold XR but once you put it along side the Biante XW and XY's it just doesn't sit the same, the XR wheels are smaller the car sits lower, I don't know who's dimensions are wrong be it Biante or CC's

I have avoided making this coment but will make it know.

firstly i have all the biante race version xw xy released.
my prsonal opinion that nobody has to agree with is the stance of these cars looks crap. the wheel rim width and the ride hight are totally wrong and can't understand how these mistakes have gone unnoticed.

[BATHURSTFAN]

Gab73,

I only have the Yellow Ochre Phase 3 and the Apple Red Phase 2 and like the models, one thing you have to realise is that these models (the basic moulds that is) were made some 6 years ago.

Since then technology etc has improved, besides what else was there in this scale before these?.

I'm not saying your wrong but I wonder if CC will ever release the Phase 2 & 3s plus race cars now that they have started with early Falcons.

Interesting times ahead...

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
The green model seems to have the same flaw in the body mould as the XR GT, sadly.
Still no takers for this flawed, and therefore unwanted model
:mad:

You know, FF, one of these is poised to sell on Ebay for a little over $220. Another one with four days to go already has an offer near issue price.

Instead of incessantly carping about the "flawed" item and lamenting over its dreadful presence in your collection, why don't you post it on Ebay? You just might make a profit. In the unlikely event you lose a few bucks, chalk it up to experience and go on.

BC

[ferrari fan]

Yo know Zeitgeist;

I was under the impression that I could have my own,maybe flawed, oppinion, But this seems not to be the case.
For your, and others, I hereby inform you all, respectfully, that I will determine what I do and at what price,if, I deceide to sell, with MY collection, just as You have the right to do with Your possecions.
In the case that you are offended by this remark, then I hereby beg your pardon, but stick to my believes.
To my oppinion, C.C. has made a DUD in the case of the XR,XT-GT
and I will wait for the BIANTE version, if you like it or not.
This IS a BIANTE sponsored website!
I happen to be VERY happy with the products of this company, even if they not always 100% perfect.
Looking forward to reading many more informative comments from you in the future
Regards,
Bert.

[zeitgeist]

Heck, Bert. I'm not offended. It's just a model car. I'll save my indignation for more important issues.

Here are the facts:

(1) you have expressed a desire to sell at RRP
(2) you have not yet accomplished your desire to at RRP
(3) Current Ebay history shows you could more than likely accomplish your desire to sell at RRP.

Of course you can do whatever you wish with your models and
you needed be so defensive in your reply. I thought perhaps you hadn't perused Ebay and noticed the current values.

I will say, though, that your continued public frustration over being stuck with this model when you could more than likely get RRP through a certain sales outlet appears somewhat confusing.

BC

[ferrari fan]

I have put it in a cabinet with all the other non Bathurst Winners and spares.

[Maximus]

Bert, I know, really you LOVE THIS CAR and cannot stand to sell it.

I myself like it, it does seem to be a little low but the rest is amazing.

Cheers

[ferrari fan]

I am looking for a 1:1 scale XR GT or XT GT.
I think that I have got myself a 42 000 mile one owner green XY GT, negotiations are in a delicate stage

[Maximus]

Ferrari Fan, Have you had a look here for cars.

http://www.grandtourer.com.au/public/carsforsale/i ndex.asp

To everybody else just have a look at http://www.grandtourer.com.au and see the detail that does into restoring these fine classics.

Cheers

[singer]

I just had a good look at my 67 xr Bathurst winner.

Have any of you had a look at the finer detail eg. the bonnet hinges.

The details of these collectible cars are amazing.

We are so lucky to companies competing for our dollars.

COMPETITION CERTAINLY DOES IMPROVE THE BREDE:) :D

[ferrari fan]

What 's the deal with the numberplate?
Is there anybody that has a real actual picture of the car in the race from side front and back?

[biante11500]

Originally posted by gab73
originally posted by diecastdude
I had ordered the XR Bathurst winner through my retailer but have since cancelled that order after purchasing the gold XR. Stand alone I see nothing wrong with the gold XR but once you put it along side the Biante XW and XY's it just doesn't sit the same, the XR wheels are smaller the car sits lower, I don't know who's dimensions are wrong be it Biante or CC's

I have avoided making this coment but will make it know.

firstly i have all the biante race version xw xy released.
my prsonal opinion that nobody has to agree with is the stance of these cars looks crap. the wheel rim width and the ride hight are totally wrong and can't understand how these mistakes have gone unnoticed.

im in agreement with you on the stance. i have the biantes but not the 67 bathurst winner. to me the biantes look like they set up like a 4x4. and the tires stick out to far.as far as the 67 winner goes judge for your selves.but it looks pretty obvious to me wich companys stance looks closer. heres some links to the real cars. http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/list-401public__0-0.html?cache=no
http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/list-400public__0-0.html?cache=no
http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/list-397public__0-0.html?cache=no

[ferrari fan]

The foto's do not show anything and as a matter of fact do prove the BIANTE's are somewhere right as the standard road suspension shows up in the amount of roll of the car in the cornering/braking shots.
Rideheight has come down in the ensuing years as the 73 XA sits higher than the 79 XC
Alan MOFFAT stayed very stable in his bodyweight like Ian Geoghegan ,although there was a real difference in the two drivers. :cool:

[ZORAK]

I will also wait for the Biante release.

I don't have anything against CC, the only reason I have any is I couldn't wait for Biante to make the Chargers. When they do, I will get them as well.

Z

[mincer ray]

I have both of the Classic XR GT's, the gold one and the 67 Bathurst winner and I also have the Biante 04 Historic XY. I love all of these falcon's but there is no hiding the fact that the Classic's falcon's have a level of detail that just blows away the Biante XY. Like someone stated earlier, the Bainte Falcon's are using models that are 6 or more years old. Hopefully they will have modified these models and come up with a product that is up to the Classic's level.

[singer]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
I am looking for a 1:1 scale XR GT or XT GT.
I think that I have got myself a 42 000 mile one owner green XY GT, negotiations are in a delicate stage

FF,

I just spoke to Harry Firth regarding my quest to make a model of his 1960 Phillip Island Singer Gazelle.

Please accept my humble apologies, the man has spoken & according to him the CC version of the 1967 Bathurst winner is incorrectly painted. Harry informs me that the Biante version will be correct. He has also penned a number of biographies for the cars which has been associated with which Biante is making.

keep smilin:)

[Kenseth17]

Originally posted by singer
FF,

I just spoke to Harry Firth regarding my quest to make a model of his 1960 Phillip Island Singer Gazelle.

Please accept my humble apologies, the man has spoken & according to him the CC version of the 1967 Bathurst winner is incorrectly painted. Harry informs me that the Biante version will be correct. He has also penned a number of biographies for the cars which has been associated with which Biante is making.

keep smilin:)

I am really looking forward to this Biante release.Any news on what date it will be out?

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Kenseth17
I am really looking forward to this Biante release.Any news on what date it will be out?

Sometime in the new year for sure.

[Kenseth17]

The sooner the better Bert.Better start saving my pennies.....:)

[ferrari fan]

Better start selling those current ones as as soon as the real one comes out the current one will sink so to speak:p
I have got rid of mine, the hole is being occupied by my 61D
Now where did I leave my one eye, again, better pop it back in.;)

[BB]

Originally posted by singer
FF,

I just spoke to Harry Firth regarding my quest to make a model of his 1960 Phillip Island Singer Gazelle.

Please accept my humble apologies, the man has spoken & according to him the CC version of the 1967 Bathurst winner is incorrectly painted. Harry informs me that the Biante version will be correct. He has also penned a number of biographies for the cars which has been associated with which Biante is making.

keep smilin:)

OK so the car raced without a front number plate and it was probably registered in Victoria so the plates should be white on black not black on white with a little VIC on top but how is the colour any different to what has been done by CC's.

[singer]

Originally posted by BB
OK so the car raced without a front number plate and it was probably registered in Victoria so the plates should be white on black not black on white with a little VIC on top but how is the colour any different to what has been done by CC's.

All I can say is what Harry Firth told me" the CC version is painted incorrectly". He didn't go into any detail, except to say that the Biante one will be done correctly.

Harry would know as he drove the car & has one of the best motor racing memorabilia collections in Australia. So I guess I'll have to wait & see along with the rest of you.

All I"ll say is that I think that it will be well worth the wait & in the long run the better one to have.

Keep smilin :)

[teambrock50]

Well i have contacted Classic Cralectables on this and they said the colour is correct as they got it for the Ford paint colour chart in 1967 and checked with Ford themselves with the colour. They also checked the replica XR GT up at the Bathurst meseum as well as the real 1967 Bathurst Winner is no longer around. Im not trying to start a fight but does anyone including Harry Firth have any actual proof that the colour of the car is wrong?

[singer]

Originally posted by teambrock50
Well i have contacted Classic Cralectables on this and they said the colour is correct as they got it for the Ford paint colour chart in 1967 and checked with Ford themselves with the colour. They also checked the replica XR GT up at the Bathurst meseum as well as the real 1967 Bathurst Winner is no longer around. Im not trying to start a fight but does anyone including Harry Firth have any actual proof that the colour of the car is wrong?

As I have already indicated Harry would know as he drove the car & has one of the best motor racing memorabilia collections in Australia, photos included. So I guess I'll have to wait & see along with the rest of you.

Keep smilin

[zeitgeist]

I mean no disrespect to Mr. Firth, but colours can be deceiving.

Our family had a 1974 Dodge Dart, which we owned until 1984. I saw that car and rode in it every day for 10 years. I learned to drive in it. We have plenty of pictures of it. However, if I were to model it, I think I would rely on a paint code/chip/whatever from Dodge, rather than a memory from 1984.

What about a memory from 1967?

The comment "It is painted incorrectly", even by the driver of said vehicle, is subjective, at least.

Now, FF has brought up ride stance as an issue. Having never actually seen the car, I'll yield to those more in the know.

BC

[singer]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by zeitgeist
[B]I mean no disrespect to Mr. Firth, but colours can be deceiving.

Our family had a 1974 Dodge Dart, which we owned until 1984. I saw that car and rode in it every day for 10 years. I learned to drive in it. We have plenty of pictures of it. However, if I were to model it, I think I would rely on a paint code/chip/whatever from Dodge, rather than a memory from 1984.

What about a memory from 1967?

The comment "It is painted incorrectly", even by the driver of said vehicle, is subjective, at least.

Harry also mentioned that he has photos & that there were other inconsistencies. He did not go into much detail as we were talking about his 1960 Phillip Island Entrant.

Harry's mind is like a steel trap. I think that if I were to argue, I'd lose

keep smilin :)

[VXfan]

What happened regarding this model?Is there going to be a biante version?

[Kenseth17]

Originally posted by VXfan
What happened regarding this model?Is there going to be a biante version?

I was led to believe this would happen later this year but have not heard anything for a while.

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by Kenseth17
I was led to believe this would happen later this year but have not heard anything for a while.

Found this on the next Bathurst winner Thread , looks like it's definately in the pipeline ... :)

Cheers Jim .

admin
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Decorated sample coming down soon.

[the_goldie]

Has the sample arrived yet admin?

[mick xu1]

Admin, any development on this little ripper yet.

Cheers Mick

[VXfan]

What's happening with this model???

[the_goldie]

With the Bathurst winning collection growing -- is there any news on this model??? Still have not found a Classics version at the right price...

[Kenseth17]

I was also wondering how far away this model will be??

[admin]

Its in the system.dont panic.
We have 75 Brock, 74 Goss and 66 Mini to come first.

[VXfan]

Originally posted by admin
Its in the system.dont panic.
We have 75 Brock, 74 Goss and 66 Mini to come first.
We are panicky souls arn't we admin?:)
I think we all are just looking forward to seeing the magical 'development approved' pop up soon.

[the_goldie]

Originally posted by admin
Its in the system.dont panic.
We have 75 Brock, 74 Goss and 66 Mini to come first.

More curious than anything... But since you mentioned those other 3 being before this that is great because I am looking forward to all 3!!!

4 months left in the year and we have the 99 winner (released), 68 winner (released next week) and then I presume the 75 (september), 74 (october -- at Bathurst) and then the Mini (november). Maybe the 67 winner will be the last Bathurst winner released for the year ;)

[fomoco04]

Ok, thats the 75 Brock out of the way. Should be some news on the 67 XR soon?????

[VXfan]

woopeeeee!!!!!!!
http://www.biante.com.au/merchandise.cfm?mode=view&MerchandiseID=16674
:D

[the_goldie]

Originally posted by VXfan
woopeeeee!!!!!!!
http://www.biante.com.au/merchandise.cfm?mode=view&MerchandiseID=16674
:D

no photo yet though?!?!

[rex555]

Plus the McPhee/Mulholland and Bill Brown roll over cars in 1/18

[Dingo]

Impending VISA failure in 5....4....3....

:D

[Richard Poole]

A 'teaser pic' is on the product listing now.

[LC Torana]

Originally posted by rex555
Plus the McPhee/Mulholland and Bill Brown roll over cars in 1/18

Also the Leo Geoghegan 1956 48-215/FX NSW SCC in 1/18

http://www.biante.com.au/merchandise.cfm?mode=view&MerchandiseID=16675


McPhee/Mulholland XW GTHO 1969 Bathurst
http://www.biante.com.au/merchandise.cfm?mode=view&MerchandiseID=16677

Bill Brown roll over
http://www.biante.com.au/merchandise.cfm?mode=view&MerchandiseID=16676

[the_goldie]

Originally posted by Richard Poole
A 'teaser pic' is on the product listing now.

Not wrong abou tthe teaser Richard! Looks good from that angle. I hope this shows up in the New Model Showroom soon ;)

[fomoco04]

Gee, I hope Xmas falls 5 or 6 times in the next 12 months or im in trouble.

[SVO351]

the question i say is the $30 or whatever it is worth it to buy CC, is the quality better? my unprofessional opinion that CC is better and worth the extra $

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by SVO351
the question i say is the $30 or whatever it is worth it to buy CC, is the quality better? my unprofessional opinion that CC is better and worth the extra $

Well mr unprofessional; you are on the wrong forum then.
See ya!:)

[SVO351]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Well mr unprofessional; you are on the wrong forum then.
See ya!:)

i was looking for other peoples opinions not remarks.

[Oh Five]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Well mr unprofessional; you are on the wrong forum then.
See ya!:)

Just because someone doesnt give your love child a wrap doesnt mean they have to go to the other forum, your starting to be the C/C of Biante, we all have an opinion and it doesnt always match yours!!

[KiwiRallyFan]

Originally posted by SVO351
My unprofessional opinion is that CC is better......
I think you need to wait until Biante release the model before you can make a comment like that. At this stage, none of us have seen the model, and that makes it extremely difficult to make a comparison.

[SVO351]

Originally posted by KiwiRallyFan
I think you need to wait until Biante release the model before you can make a comment like that. At this stage, none of us have seen the model, and that makes it extremely difficult to make a comparison.

you are right but i only going by what i have seen, past bathurst cars that have been built and the cars that i own

[fomoco04]

.you are right but i only going by what i have seen
How can you go on the Biante version if you can only see the front quarter of a pre poduction model. If Mr Firth is working in conjunction with Biante to make sure it's period correct AND he's going to put his name to it, that would tell me theres issues with the other one.

[SVO351]

Originally posted by fomoco04
.
How can you go on the Biante version if you can only see the front quarter of a pre poduction model. If Mr Firth is working in conjunction with Biante to make sure it's period correct AND he's going to put his name to it, that would tell me theres issues with the other one.

what i meant was from what i have seen in the flesh in person and my own collection of cars not from a bloody quarter panel photo.
and is the quality of the car going to change in any way because Mr Firth is working on it that only means that the car will be accurate in its presentation and markings

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Oh Five
Just because someone doesnt give your love child a wrap doesnt mean they have to go to the other forum, your starting to be the C/C of Biante, we all have an opinion and it doesnt always match yours!!

Love Child?a wrap???
Starting to be the C/C of Biante????

"We??,( Who? does that include Me?) all have an opinion (great to see you have one) and it does not have to match yours!!

Are you for real??

I am sick to the back teeth in Baiting posts that tries to start the (useless)nonachieving old argument over and over again.
One can read into a post what ever one wants and I did read another baiting exercise, hence my remark.
If I am wrong then I am wrong and would like to withdraw my post, but it had all the hallmarks of a baiting one.
I am here because I do collect models never mind the price and the manufacturer.
I would say that I have more different manufacturers in my collection than some have in # of models!
Plus I try to be of help to my fellow COLLECTORS in some way including models from C.C. (XR GT Gallaher promo.)
I apologise if I am incorrect in my assumption of the initial remark posted.
The intention might have been different to what was actualy written, but there is no further info to substanciate this.
so can only taken on good faith.

[fomoco04]

?what i meant was from what i have seen in the flesh
So you've seen the Biante one in the flesh have you??

[fomoco04]

McPhee/Mulholland XW GTHO 1969 Bathurst

Anyone know the actual colour this car was? my memory is that it was a Starlight Blue type colour.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by ferrari fan

I am sick to the back teeth in Baiting posts that tries to start the (useless)nonachieving old argument over and over again.
One can read into a post what ever one wants and I did read another baiting exercise, hence my remark.
If I am wrong then I am wrong and would like to withdraw my post, but it had all the hallmarks of a baiting one.
I agree wholeheartedly.

However, SVO351's post has no more or fewer hallmarks than a recent post on the CC forum, stating that, with the release of Biante's '99 Bathurst winner, CC's version was ... oh what was the quote ... "ready for the bin".

As you said, one can read into a post whatever one wants.

BC

[mick xu1]

I am looking forward to this car, as i am now up to date with all the 1 :18 Bathurst cars released so far....i have not seen the CC car so i can not comment

Roll on the 67 car

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
I agree wholeheartedly.

However, SVO351's post has no more or fewer hallmarks than a recent post on the CC forum, stating that, with the release of Biante's '99 Bathurst winner, CC's version was ... oh what was the quote ... "ready for the bin".

As you said, one can read into a post whatever one wants.

BC

Well here we go again, but alas.
Now that the 99 winner has been made in a more uniformly acceptable way and for a acceptable price I stated that the CC series 1, 99 winner was ready to be discarded, ready for the bin.
It was till this year the only (reluctant) rendition available.
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I still have the release brochure of this wofull series of Australian V8 Supercars with Dick Johnson smiling like a farmer with a rotten toothache on the bottom rhs of this flyer.
"CC are renowned for their attention to detail and the new 1/18 scale is no exception, affordable and Highly collectable" :rolleyes:
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These """models""" are best forgotten.
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[singer]

Richard's tease has wet all the appetites of Collectors of Bathurst winners.

I can't wait to see the 67 Firth car:)

[basman]

Let's face it - we are so lucky that in a small country like ours, we have TWO manufacturers producing scale replica's of our own classics.

Both have significantly improved their quality for a number of reasons, mainly being advances in tooling (look at the quality of AutoArt these days - they took over UT in the late 90's and their models now (expecially the Millenium collections and the Exoto quality Mazda 787B that is coming out soon) and went from toy to museum quality over a period of 6-7 years. The increase in quality in Biante products is partially due to AutoArt's significant investment in tooling and production.

CC has also gone from toy to museum piece in a similar time frame.

The new Biante XR will probably out do (or at very least, match) the existing CC, and if CC were to do an XW or XY, it would be superior to the existing Biante product (which is based on 7+ year tooling, however I feel a quick fix in the grille would probably result in a 50% improvement as this is the one area letting this model down). Having these two companies compete for our dollar has resulted in the increase in quality we have all seen and the prices staying fairly constant in the past 5 years. The only thing I would hate to see is both companies releasing the same car at the same time.

There is room in our diecast market for both manufacturers. I will continue to support both companies by purchasing quality products and shunning those that are of poorer quality (which is simply a function of the age of the tooling - Biante has more old tooling around than CC as CC's earlier tooling can never be used as it is toy-like in its quality whilst Biante's older stuff just passes the test in today's environment). That way, I have the best of both worlds!!!

[BILLFORD1]

Just a passing comment ref CC vs Biante in relation to race versions of XR/XT/XW/XY models....I have no doubt that Biante will fix one of the few major errors on all of the CC models released so far, the radio aerials !! CC build nice aerials but my info says virtually NO early Falcon race cars had aerials fitted, as has been the case with all CC versions so far. :)

[SVO351]

Originally posted by fomoco04
?
So you've seen the Biante one in the flesh have you??

i give up! im sick and tired of defending and trying to explain to people what i have said in my post.

I will try again

what im trying to say judging by what CC have made so far and what Biante have made so far do u guys think that CC is worth the extra dollars?

[GSXR1]

LOL! :D Don't worry, I get where you're coming from!

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by SVO351

i give up! ........

I will try again .........

what im trying to say.......



I am confused :confused:







1967 Bathurst winner post; only one out is the CC. the only other one is the S1 1999.
all the rest of the winners (24) have been produced/issued by BIANTE

Q; Which is/are better value?

Duhh, let me see, which one

[mick xu1]

At end of the day buy what you want to buy.......Hell i am just happy it's being made

[Hey Charger]

On the photos so far, ive picked up the following and I was wondering did Admin or anone else talk about it..is the bonnet strap actual leather and is it a workable strap?