Confirmed orders for 1978 A9X Brock/Richards (Observations)

[jager]

Wanted to put this under Admin's thread but it is closed.

Just wondered how the 'one per person' limit works when you see the following :

34355 23/09/2004 Deverson, Gary
34231 23/09/2004 deverson, gary

So, are there two Gary Deverson's or has this individual discovered you can beat the Biante system just by placing a second order if you put your name in lower case letter.

I also suspect Biante are in breach of most of the provisions of the Privacy Act by publishing the names of the buyers on the forum. There are several names I recognise, some of whom wouldn't appreciate having there names here for all to see - especially Gary Deverson.

[Odin]

I myself have ordered two, one at biante and one at gatewaymodels, but before everyone crucifies me, I would want to use the 2nd one to swap for a no 1 or no 28 Brock XU1 as these are insane in price now and I don't have one, and considering the seemed popularity of the brock a9x I might be able to do a 1 to 1 swap,

[biante2959]

Originally posted by jager
Wanted to put this under Admin's thread but it is closed.

Just wondered how the 'one per person' limit works when you see the following :

34355 23/09/2004 Deverson, Gary
34231 23/09/2004 deverson, gary

So, are there two Gary Deverson's or has this individual discovered you can beat the Biante system just by placing a second order if you put your name in lower case letter.

I also suspect Biante are in breach of most of the provisions of the Privacy Act by publishing the names of the buyers on the forum. There are several names I recognise, some of whom wouldn't appreciate having there names here for all to see - especially Gary Deverson.

If you look even harder you would also have noticed

34404 23/09/2004 deverson,paula

that would make 3 models for the same surname, coincidence or what!..

[biante2959]

If you are looking for the A9x try Lions den at Mt.druitt,NSW have been told they will have plenty to go round.

[lukey73]

Guys, i think this who has or hasnt got a model is abit ridiculous! There are others who arent apart of this forum who will have missed out as well ( i personally know of 3 people who wanted one) to nit pick at some people is not right.

Will you pick on the people who sell the vechiles on ebay or the biante auctions site as soon as they arrive for a highly inflated price? I missed on an xy historics and djr sierra, i have since seen these forsale and assume that these people are selling for profit. But i dont publish there names on a forum becasue i missed out orginally.I would be very careful as it could lead tol sorts of legal ramifactions if these people take offence to what is being published about them.

Look good luck they got 2 or models for what ever reason and possibly someone else missed out at this stage, but i reckon they will get on ebay or the auction site soon enough they will just have to pay more for it if they really want it.

Luke

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by Odin
I myself have ordered two, one at biante and one at gatewaymodels, but before everyone crucifies me,


I'm not going to crucify anyone, but with such hopeful speculation, it does make the $205 preorder price that raceplace is charging much more attractive to those might miss out on an RRP purchase. With folks banging at their door for $205, we certainly won't see the practice end any time soon.

BC

[Odin]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
I'm not going to crucify anyone, but with such hopeful speculation, it does make the $205 preorder price that raceplace is charging much more attractive to those might miss out on an RRP purchase. With folks banging at their door for $205, we certainly won't see the practice end any time soon.

BC

Im not speculating to make money, If it does prove popular, I'd accept a swap for a Brock XU1 car, Simply put I cant justify the price to buy on atm ie 300+. My problem was I didnt start collecting until after the brock xu1 was released.

If I do sell it I'll use the money to go towards a brock xu1 and I'd start it at or below rrp on ebay, not some ridiculous sum.

[james]

Originally posted by jager
Wanted to put this under Admin's thread but it is closed.

Just wondered how the 'one per person' limit works when you see the following :

34355 23/09/2004 Deverson, Gary
34231 23/09/2004 deverson, gary

So, are there two Gary Deverson's or has this individual discovered you can beat the Biante system just by placing a second order if you put your name in lower case letter.

I also suspect Biante are in breach of most of the provisions of the Privacy Act by publishing the names of the buyers on the forum. There are several names I recognise, some of whom wouldn't appreciate having there names here for all to see - especially Gary Deverson. as one of those on this list i personaly do not have a problem with it just good to know that i have the model to put in the display case when it arrives.

[admin]

The people who you see with 2 or 3, have been buying Biante models since day one and have always bought multiples.

If you had a son who wasnt old enough to have a credit card, but wanted a car collection, wouldn't you phone us and explain the situation.

These people did and as such they are very loyal customers and dont sell on ebay or anywhere else for that matter.

[Martin Thomas]

I think its a bit rough always having a go at people who are multiple buyers, even if they do on sell at a later date. I knew a 15 year old who used to always buy a couple and use the sale to fund his next purchase/s. If you list a car on ebay and it sells, someone is paying what THEY are prepared to pay. I find it a bit funny when people have no complaints about others getting a great deal.
Who would have thought that Brockies first Bathurst drive would still be selling now below retail? I got mine for $130 and there have been cheaper ones. How do the people who payed retail feel, they probarbly felt lucky to get one when they first came out.
I have no doubt that the A9X will rise in price but thats how it goes.
What I find amazing is that 1 family got through 3 times... I struggled to get through once with 2 computers to myself.

And just to answer before anyone asks, I have sold 1 car. A Moffat 1D about 6 months ago. The buyer obvously wanted it and I gave it up because I knew a few Brockies were coming out in a row and I thought 3 Brockie cars were worth more than 1 Moffat.

Remember, people will only pay what THEY can justify. Who am I to criticise someone making a profit, what are they meant to do, raffle it?

Sorry to waffle and I know it wont be a popular view but I had to say it...

[texan]

Hey guys,

where is the list, or has it been taken down already?

[bernoo]

I personaly know we will call him....GD. He is an avid collector and has EVERY Holden that Biante has released Plus heaps of moffat and johnson fords amongst. ALL the other car stuff. The cars anr wall to wall in fantastic cabinets. He IS an true collector and does buy for his son.....one of the future collectors. Why dont some of you lay off. Get a life:p

[biante2959]

I gather this has touched a nerve, once again!

[Maximus]

Well, I didn't get to see the list but I have ordered mine.

People have different circumstances on why they get 2 or 3 or 4.
Some poeple have kids, christmas is coming up you know.
Family & friends that used to have a torana would appreciate this model.

Cheers

James

[T0nyGTSt]

Forgive me for being naive but why not make enough so everyone gets a share?

I'd imagine this is a 5,000+ example run?

T.

[arthur]

Originally posted by Odin
Simply put I cant justify the price to buy on atm ie 300+. My problem was I didnt start collecting until after the brock xu1 was released.



You're right about the prices for the Brock XU1s, I was at the Drags (East Coast Nationals in Sydney) on Saturday and one of the dealers there in the merchandising area had both the 1 and 28 Brock XU1s and he was asking $500 ea. for them.

I could'nt believe it !!

[Leigh]

Jager,

Why just list the one multiple name? There ARE several people listed multiple times on the list...

Why does Trevor have top justify himself with every comment? It was said on another thread that every multiple was for a different person...LIVE WITH IT!

Martin,

You are your own worst enemy. You artificially created congestion on the server by using two computers at once...

TonyGTS,

Heaps more people cry when there are un-sold models because the production run was deemed too high by the collectors. Go back through some of the old threads related to the 12000 Brockie #1, Lowndes Green Eye Monster etc...

Unfortunately you can never please some...

[jager]

Jager, Why just list the one multiple name? There ARE several people listed multiple times on the list...Why does Trevor have top justify himself with every comment? It was said on another thread that every multiple was for a different person...LIVE WITH IT!

Dear lcfp2297

Let me stary by saying its Trevor's company (although I guess Bev's gets a small say as well !) and he can do what he wants with the models and distribute them how he pleases.

However, I would have thought that either you have a '1 per person' rule or you don't. To let some people order multiples and others not is misleading and confusing - sure some people have valid reasons for wanting more than 1 model, but obviously some of the collectors who missed out on getting the model were also serious, long term collectors who had just as much claim to getting one model as others had to getting two.

As for GD (lets call him GOD because he seems untouchable), his was the only multiple order where one order was in upper case and the other order was in lower case. As your still in Grade 3 this difference may have escaped you, but I picked out his name deliberately because I was curious as to whether this was a deliberately accepted double order by Biante or if someone had cleverly found a way to beat the one per person rule. - perhaps you need to re-read my first post.

Just for the record, I have nothing personal against G.O.D.

[zigi08]

I'm kind of surprised no one has picked up on the Fax order's!!! on the list and had a spray at that!!!:D

[Leigh]

Originally posted by jager
Dear lcfp2297

Let me stary by saying its Trevor's company (although I guess Bev's gets a small say as well !) and he can do what he wants with the models and distribute them how he pleases.

However, I would have thought that either you have a '1 per person' rule or you don't. To let some people order multiples and others not is misleading and confusing - sure some people have valid reasons for wanting more than 1 model, but obviously some of the collectors who missed out on getting the model were also serious, long term collectors who had just as much claim to getting one model as others had to getting two.

As for GD (lets call him GOD because he seems untouchable), his was the only multiple order where one order was in upper case and the other order was in lower case. As your still in Grade 3 this difference may have escaped you, but I picked out his name deliberately because I was curious as to whether this was a deliberately accepted double order by Biante or if someone had cleverly found a way to beat the one per person rule. - perhaps you need to re-read my first post.

Just for the record, I have nothing personal against G.O.D.
Very good Jager:o Your posts are usually quite good, intelligent and well thought out. Lowering yourself to the personal attacks in your previous post does your standing no good at all...

...and as I typed in MY previous post, and you obviously missed...IT WAS EXPLAINED ON ANOTHER THREAD!!! So why the new thread?

Zigi,

As am I...

Cheers

[jager]

as I typed in MY previous post, and you obviously missed...IT WAS EXPLAINED ON ANOTHER THREAD!!!
Perhaps I did miss this. The only comment I saw from Admin was on the 23 Sept on Page 13 of the 'A9X Torana' thread where Admin said (in response to a suggestion from Ferrari Fan that orders be limited to one per person) :
They are automatically restricted to one per order. We check to see if there are double ups.
There was no indicatation at this time (only 4 days ago) that admin was accepting multiple orders from certain preferred individuals. If they were, why not say so ?

[Leigh]

Wasn't actually Trevor that posted it, heres a link

http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?s=&postid=80728#post80728
Originally posted by lionslair
I can assure you, ones that appear as the same name are infact not the same person.

Frosty goes on to say in that thread why his name appears twice (His name is entered the same way both times by two different users...)

Cheers

[frosty]

Originally posted by lcfp2297
Wasn't actually Trevor that posted it, heres a link

http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?s=&postid=80728#post80728


Frosty goes on to say in that thread why his name appears twice (His name is entered the same way both times by two different users...)

Cheers
I think I will change my son's name by deed poll, so he can order a Brocky A9X without all this **** that is going on.

Here are the facts.
My Biante collector's membership is Biante105*
My son's Binate collector's membership is Biante1586*

I ordered one for me. addressed it to my work.
My son ordered one for him addressed it to my work, because there is no one at home during work hours.

There is not enough mailing address lines on the order form to address it properly, so he put my name in the Mailing Title NOT his name.
I work for the National Australia Bank, and consequently, the mailing dept would not known my son from a bar of soap, and there are at least 10 Frost working for NAB in Australia alone.
If Biante showed the Biante Collector's Membership name, then my 2 orders would not show as duplicates. They showed the mailing title names and that is why I appear as duplicates... I hope everyone can now understand this.... :mad:

[Dingo]

I'm down with it Frosty, hope your son enjoys his A9X as much as you do :D

[Martin Thomas]

Originally posted by lcfp2297


Martin,

You are your own worst enemy. You artificially created congestion on the server by using two computers at once...



Trust me, I would have thought the same thing. The computer I origionally started with didn't refresh at all after a coupla tries, so I started up my second PC, logged off on this one and then proceeded through slowly but surely on my second one.

I know that I wasn't the only one causing the congestion.:p

[Mark]

I have avoided this type of conversation for some time, but I must say that yes Biante do have a right to do business as they see fit.

If they wish to say one per customer and then give more than one to some of their customers, good on them.

Your decision must be related to the ethical side of this behaviour.

If you feel it is not right, then protest with your purchasing habits. I have been lucky enough that CC does the cars I am interested in. I think I have gotten about 5 CC’s to 1 Biante of late. CC gets my money, Biante does not… (Although I am a little stuck in relation to their importing stuff, but I am trying to avoid this as well.)

I am happy, they are happy. Win Win. As long as everybody is happy.

[Leigh]

Martin,

OK, you are not your own worst enemy.

Your post read like you had two computers going in tandem from the outset:rolleyes:

Mark,

If you read the posts, you would realise it is not 2 models for one person:rolleyes:

But you have a problem, and are obviously not happy...otherwise you would not post this kind of thing!

Cheers

[xa351gt]

Originally posted by admin
The people who you see with 2 or 3, have been buying Biante models since day one and have always bought multiples.

If you had a son who wasnt old enough to have a credit card, but wanted a car collection, wouldn't you phone us and explain the situation.

These people did and as such they are very loyal customers and dont sell on ebay or anywhere else for that matter.

That's great admin, but what about those of us that do not a local stockist to get cars from? Living in the US there are no outlets for me to get the cars from here. I may not buy $10K worth of cars a year but I would consider myself a loyal customer . I have the car on my watchlist but never received any notices on the cars status changing (not the 1st time this has happened either) So now I have no chance to buy the car while others will be able to purchase 2 or more ? I think some people will be and are upset by this as it is a very coveted model to have. I fully expected to be able to have a equal shot at this model so I didn't pre-order through Gateway models and now they are sold out also. So My being a LOYAL customer has now cost me a shot at buying this model at a reasonable price. I will not pay the rediculous prices that this model will bring on eBay. So if this will be a continuing practice I may have to rethink my involvement in the hobby.I'm sure I can take the $K's I spend annually on some thing else some where else. I love your products but if I can't have a EQUAL chance to purchase them then why bother? It sounds like the the old Orwell story Animal Farm "All animals are created equal" "but some animals are more equal than others"