1992 1:18 Bathurst Winning Skyline - What's it worth?

[Dazz]

Sorry if this has been asked and asnwered lately, but I did do a search and came up with nothing.

What is a rough value for a Biante 1:18 Skaife/Richards 1992 Nissan Skyline Bathurst Winner?

I have one in the box, having only been displayed for a month or so (I got another one and put the Winfield decals on it) and I am thinking about getting rid of it.

I don't want to give it away, but neither am I out to make a huge profit or anything like that, I simply want to buy something else (a Fender Strat) and am looking at selling this as I do not really need two of them.

Is anyone after one or has recently bought one, and how much did you pay?

[KiwiRallyFan]

This doesn't answer your question, but I have often wondered why this model demands such a high price. When compared to other Biante models, the quality of the 1992 Skyline is not as good as most of the others. There's another thread on this forum which talks about model popularity, and mentions that the Brock Sierra and Johnson Torana are slow sellers. IMHO, these two models are of a much higher quality than the Kyosho (?) made Skyline. Although I have the 1991 model, and have had the oppotunity to buy the 1992 version on a couple of occasions, I have never been able to justify to myself the $300-400 that most people want for it.

Just my opinion....:)

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by KiwiRallyFan
, but I have often wondered why this model demands such a high price. When compared to other Biante models, the quality of the 1992 Skyline is not as good as most of the others. ... Although I have the 1991 model, and have had the oppotunity to buy the 1992 version on a couple of occasions, I have never been able to justify to myself the $300-400 that most people want for it.
Just my opinion....:)

And it's mine as well. Thank God I'm not a stickler for procuring the entire Bathurst series, because, forum forgive me, the car just screams 'cheap'.

I just missed getting one here in the States for a price FAR below what you fellows pay. That's the ONLY way I'd ever consider one.

BC

[Troy_H]

Supply and demand.

They didnt make that many and it was a memorable bathurst.

Do you want a complete Bathurst collection or a complete Skaife collection. If so, you are gonna have to buy it sometime.

I agree the quality isnt there but what are you going to do?

At least the wheels on the 1/43 look a lot better that than the bigger version.

[mick xu1]

Hi Dazz, I was lucky enough to end up getting two of these when the first came out in September 2000, I paid $150.00 for them and now have seen the them for any ware between $450-$550,

I think they have grown into a well sort after car as time go's on because there is now a lot of people after the the Bathurst winners and this car was Biante's first of the "Bathurst Winners" series in the 1:18 scale

The reason I got two was I gave the first one away to a mate who was going through tough times due to ill health, and pick up the second one a month later due to a cancelled order from my dealer

As for not looking too good I disagree I love it and will never part with it no matter how much I got offered for it

[ferrari fan]

In the beginning you could not give them away so to speak , and now they are expensive, and with good reason.
Same was the case with the XC DJR Coupe and many others.
NOT having a complete Bathurst winners collection would be outta da kwestione Dude.;)
I am looking forward in seeing the XR GT 1967 Winner being released by Biante, This will get the forums going for sure

[KiwiRallyFan]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
...NOT having a complete Bathurst winners collection would be outta da kwestione Dude....
Well west coast dude, I guess you could use this logic to justify having the Classic 1999 Wynns Murphy Bathurst model, but I aint getting one just 'cos it's a Bathurst Winner. I demand quality in my collection......:)

[Y2kGoofball]

hey Dazz if your seriously considering selling a 1992 Bathurst Biante Skyline I'd be interested in negitioating with you, because I'm trying to complete my Skaife Bathurst set

Currently ive got the 1991 Skyline and 2002 VX. I'm shortly about to get the 2001 VX but I'm more interested in the 1992 Skyline because 1992 was Skaife / Richards and 2002 was the same combo

But like I said if your seriously considering selling it please let me know y2kgoofball@yahoo.com.au so we can talk!

[KiwiRallyFan]

BTW, in case someone reads it otherwise, my post above (to the west coast dude) is spoken in jest.....:)

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by KiwiRallyFan
BTW, in case someone reads it otherwise, my post above (to the west coast dude) is spoken in jest.....:)

Yo dudes, the DUDE here flapping hardcore to the White Cloud Dude.
Yo my man ,me is having da model as I is a stickler for the Full Hogg, yar copy ma DuDe, or yerss is still on da cloud Ma Man puffing smelly circles of ta grean pasture leafes all on yar lonesome:confused:

[Dazz]

Maybe it would be worth throwing it up on Ebay and see how it goes?

[wayno]

This is a model I would dearly love to have in my collection, but I have a hard time justifying the money they command. I agree with others that it is a pretty average model when you look at it.
All said and done I know I will end up getting one eventually!

[Gan88]

Originally posted by Dazz
Sorry if this has been asked and asnwered lately, but I did do a search and came up with nothing.

What is a rough value for a Biante 1:18 Skaife/Richards 1992 Nissan Skyline Bathurst Winner?



I'd be looking at $450 as a minimum "if" I were to sell my spare MIB version. They have gone for higher. You have to remember that you aren't selling to diecast collectors only, but GT-R fans, Group A fans, Skaife fans, Richards fans, Gibson fans, Kyosho collectors and Ciggie memorabilia collectors as well.

[Gan88]

Originally posted by Dazz
Sorry if this has been asked and asnwered lately, but I did do a search and came up with nothing.

What is a rough value for a Biante 1:18 Skaife/Richards 1992 Nissan Skyline Bathurst Winner?



I'd be looking at $450 as a minimum "if" I were to sell my spare MIB version. They have gone for higher. You have to remember that you aren't selling to diecast collectors only, but GT-R fans, Group A fans, Skaife fans, Richards fans, Gibson fans, Kyosho collectors and Ciggie memorabilia collectors as well.

[the_goldie]

Originally posted by mick xu1
Hi Dazz, I was lucky enough to end up getting two of these when the first came out in September 2000, I paid $150.00 for them and now have seen the them for any ware between $450-$550,

I think they have grown into a well sort after car as time go's on because there is now a lot of people after the the Bathurst winners and this car was Biante's first of the "Bathurst Winners" series in the 1:18 scale

The reason I got two was I gave the first one away to a mate who was going through tough times due to ill health, and pick up the second one a month later due to a cancelled order from my dealer

As for not looking too good I disagree I love it and will never part with it no matter how much I got offered for it

Mick have to agree about the model - it took me ages to find one, after I decided to start collecting Bathurst winners and I paid $310 which was a good price back in Dec 2002 and even then I was tossing up about paying the $$s - jeez I am glad I did. Once you have the winfield decals on it this model looks 100% better! I love it. I would never sell mine either. Those saying the quality is not that good - "You are all a pack of a$$holes" hahaha - just kidding, couldn't resist.

Originally posted by ferrari fan
I am looking forward in seeing the XR GT 1967 Winner being released by Biante, This will get the forums going for sure

ff - that is if they do make one?! There is no mention of it when you do a Find a Model.

[MARK052003]

Yes Goldie I hated them in 90,91,92 but now I think they are a great model.[must be getting old and soft] Its a part of AUST motorsport like it or lump it :D

[ferrari fan]

They,BIANTE, are making a correct one and when it is released you WILL see how wrong this C.C. model realy is, I am sorry to inform you.
My advise is ;WAIT till the Biante is available and it will not be long.

[terrine]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Yo dudes, the DUDE here flapping hardcore to the White Cloud Dude.
Yo my man ,me is having da model as I is a stickler for the Full Hogg, yar copy ma DuDe, or yerss is still on da cloud Ma Man puffing smelly circles of ta grean pasture leafes all on yar lonesome:confused:

sorry to butt in when you guys are so in touch with each others feelings but do you actually know what a dude is?

r/peter

[ferrari fan]

It looks like you wanna be the "studge".
Secondly; "Ignorance is BLISS"
Thirdly; Please do NOT confuse a good story with the TRUTH.as it :confused: me

[KiwiRallyFan]

Originally posted by terrine
....do you actually know what a dude is?
My pocket Oxford dictionary says a dude is a "Foppish person". Is that someone from Fopland?

[Gan88]

KRF,

Does that dictionary say what a "studge" is?

[KiwiRallyFan]

No, perhaps I need the full Oxford for that one.

[Andrew]

I bought three of them over a 6 month period after they first came out, and no-one wanted them. They couldn't be given away.
And yet twelve months after that, they began to realise a decent price.
I would expect $450 tops in terms of value. With ciggie advertising? Hmmm. Maybe $20-$30 more. I certainly have never seen one go over $500, and I think it is an insult that any might have fetched that much.

I am as committed a GT-R fan as you will find (see my signature), but the quality of these cars certainly does not justify the prices they are pulling. I am astounded that they are now so sought after. I have three, as I have said, but don't want to sell any as they mean more to me than the money I could get for them. And I bought them for the love of the car, not to speculate on.

I feel for collectors out there wanting to complete their Bathurst winners collection requiring this model. I don't envy you finding one for a reasonable price because it seems everyone wants to milk the market and prey on collectors' desperation. :mad:
Good luck to those in finding one. But as Gan88 said, GT-R fans (many young guys who may have only just stumbled upon GT-R models since 'The Fast and the Furious' was released), general Nissan fans, Japanese collectors, Group A collectors and Skaife and/or Richards collectors are all wanting to find one.

I have pictures of my three plus a friend's car, all together in my photobucket album link in my signature.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by KiwiRallyFan
No, perhaps I need the full Oxford for that one.

No need of the Oxford ,just watch FAT PIZZA, it is hilarious!

[Y2kGoofball]

its acctually stooge if youve been to their website

[Dazz]

Oh well, it's up on Ebay.

Lets see if it's worth what people say it is.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27157&item=6930011292&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

[Elvis]

Originally posted by ferrari fan [/i]
They,BIANTE, are making a correct one and when it is released you WILL see how wrong this C.C. model realy is, I am sorry to inform you.
My advise is ;WAIT till the Biante is available and it will not be long.

Dont you get bored posting the same crap post after bloody post,'Montoya is stupid','CCs are junk','Montoya is fat','CCs are faulty',you never explain whats wrong with it,there 'just junk,wait for the Biante version'.I guess its too much hard work to explain the reasons on a DISCUSSION forum......except when its about what YOU have at home.

[ferrari fan]

If people would do a bit of a resurge on what it realy looked like, and yes ,with a model this old and not many colourpics available it is a bit of a mission, one could find out ,The C.C. model is a very nice faithfull copy of the restored one,including the roadrego, which is a small omission.
The rego plate addition shows to me that very little if any study/checking was done of the material that is available in the history books/foto archives
Nice model ,it is however, not a reasonable rendition of the actual car as it ran and won.

Montoya is not doing any good on and off the track, I am looking forward to see the performance of Mark Webber in the Williams.

Elvis did consume a lot of JUNK

[69Mach1]

The Colin Bond HT with the wrong grill didn't get a mention.

"not a reasonable rendition of the actual car as it ran and won.

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by ferrari fan

The rego plate addition shows to me that very little if any study/checking was done of the material that is available in the history books/foto archives
Nice model ,it is however, not a reasonable rendition of the actual car as it ran and won.


The inclusion of rego plates on the '67 Bathurst winner is your * strongest * reason for casting doubt on a company's research methods? That's a little presumptuous.

Also, as far as errors go, it is easily fixed.

I would never want to be tasked with ensuring a 30+ year-old car was rendered accurately for a single point in time. It has to be a thankless job.

I'm with 69Mach1 on this one. There appears to be a selective casting of stones.

BC

[Gan88]

Hehehe..

69Mach1, many Bathurst winners released aren't bang on for one reason or another.

CC never claimed their car was race perfect. The brochure clearly tells that the car modelled was the one sitting in the Bathurst meuseum.

If anything, in my Bathurst winner collection (with dodgy cars like the 1969, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003) the 1967 not only looks the part but is one of the higher quality ones.

[terrine]

Originally posted by KiwiRallyFan
My pocket Oxford dictionary says a dude is a "Foppish person". Is that someone from Fopland?

thanks kiwirallyfan but not what i was allluding to
i was making reference to the name of a camels tockley...

yes, a camels chopper is called a dude
and a whales one is called a dork

so be careful what you call yourself and others

r/peter:)

[KiwiRallyFan]

I didn't know that. It's obviously another english-language word with several meanings.

[Andrew]

Originally posted by terrine
thanks kiwirallyfan but not what i was allluding to
i was making reference to the name of a camels tockley...

yes, a camels chopper is called a dude
and a whales one is called a dork

so be careful what you call yourself and others

r/peter:)

That's fascinating stuff lads. Just a question: how do you know what those terms were? ;)

[Dazz]

Really educational stuff guys, top work.

But does it tell me what the dudes or dorks will pay for a 1992 Bathurst Skyline :confused: :D

[GTRGOD]

auction finished... nice price. I made some bids... but no cigar :-(

[Dazz]

Well, it looks like $540.00 is the price right here right now because that's what it just sold for!

[GTRGOD]

aurgh, and so the search continues :-(

[Y2kGoofball]

yeah I was expecting around that price!

I woulda loved to bid but I'm saving for Bathurst this weekend and for that kinda money I'm trying to buy from a store where I can get a reciept printed up (for insurance!)

[the_goldie]

WOW $540! Unbelievable. Where does it all end?! Glad I bought mine when I did!!!

[Andrew]

Originally posted by the_goldie
WOW $540! Unbelievable. Where does it all end?! Glad I bought mine when I did!!!


You are telling me! Phew! $540 is a lot of dosh for a diecast, and especially one that is not something like a BBR or Exoto either!
At that sort of price, I could sell one of mine and it would fund my next 4 or 5 purchases...:eek:
I feel for those still looking to add one to their collections.

[skyzerr33]

Originally posted by the_goldie
WOW $540! Unbelievable. Where does it all end?! Glad I bought mine when I did!!!

hmm $540 wonder how much for mine with skaifes autograph on it?

[Gan88]

It would be have to be worth less with Skaife's scrawl on it, wouldn't it?

[skyzerr33]

and the correct decals

yeah it probably is

:mad:

[GTRGOD]

recently winfield cars mint in box have gone for :
$520
$514
$542
$550 <--- including shipping (yes , i finally own one)

I cant believe how much these models are goin for!

[ferrari fan]

When these were released they were sitting arround on the retailers shops for ages and ages, I seem to remember!
Look what is happening with the Harvey L34 4 door Tornado, with only 2000 ex made and the livery it has ,plus it bridges the gap between the LC XU1 and the A9X ,we might be looking at another sleeper.
I cannot get over the fact that all the Moffat XW/Y.s are fetching large $$ somehow

[mick xu1]

There is one on Biante Auctions now it started off on the 06/11 for $110.....already up to $490 today 07/11, i will be watching this one with interest

I am glad i picked mine up for $145 from my retailer when it first came out

[Road Runner 72]

Congrat's GTRGOD, yeah big $$$ hey, but glad you got one, I know you have been looking for one for a long time.

Cheers

Mike

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[mick xu1]

Originally posted by mick xu1
There is one on Biante Auctions now it started off on the 06/11 for $110.....already up to $490 today 07/11, i will be watching this one with interest

I am glad i picked mine up for $145 from my retailer when it first came out

This car is now up to $750.00....is that a record for this car end of Auction on 30/11/04, how much more can it go

[the_goldie]

Originally posted by mick xu1
This car is now up to $750.00....is that a record for this car end of Auction on 30/11/04, how much more can it go

Wow that is high.
But will the winning bidder end up paying... I have had 2 auctions sell but have seen no money... :mad: I don't bother with visiting the site anymore...

[GTRGOD]

wow $750, thats definately overpriced. hes probably pumping his own auction . or non-paying bidders (that have no lives) are pumping it up...
but interestingly $750au "reserve not met" Oh.. My.. God.. interesting reserve expectations hehehe. ebay reserves have been starting at around only 400au

[diecastaddict]

Whats this model likely to fetch now?

[brchi17]

Whats this model likely to fetch now?

try here (http://forums.biante.com.au/showthread.php?t=7710 ), inter has done a fantastic job of reasearching the value of a lot of 1/18's ;)

[inter]

Whats this model likely to fetch now?


Last average 50 sales are at $180 , last 12 month $172

this car will be averagin about $220 in six month 4out of the last 10 models sold were under $200
hope this helps

[Tumbo]

inter are you sure your facts are right? :confused: or are you talking about the 1/43

[inter]

inter are you sure your facts are right? :confused: or are you talking about the 1/43

yes 1/18, this is the 1991 bathurst winner not the 1992 windfield one

[inter]

1992 windfiels one;
Nissan R32 Skyline GT-R - #1 1992 Bathurst Winner - Jim Richards / Mark Skaife 1:18 $459

[Tumbo]

my bad; really need to read more carefully; checked but still read 91 as 92; man I need more sleep lol!

[Road Runner 72]

my bad; really need to read more carefully; checked but still read 91 as 92; man I need more sleep lol!

Yeah this thread is about 1992 car only.

Inter I thought you might of ment the 91 car, diecastaddict was after info on the 1:18 1992 car ;)

Cheers
Mike

[Tumbo]

glad i'm not crazy lol! Been a long week at work and given my uni results it wouldn't surprise me if I was off the mark :(

[diecastaddict]

1992 windfiels one;
Nissan R32 Skyline GT-R - #1 1992 Bathurst Winner - Jim Richards / Mark Skaife 1:18 $459
Thanks inter, yes it was this one not the 1991

[streettuner]

Is that just the average price of the 1992 skyline of $459?
Inter you might be able to help me out its prob asking a bit too much but what have the last few 1992 skylines gone for on ebay? As i havent seen many on there over last few months.

Cheers

[inter]

Is that just the average price of the 1992 skyline of $459?
Inter you might be able to help me out its prob asking a bit too much but what have the last few 1992 skylines gone for on ebay? As i havent seen many on there over last few months.

Cheers

streetturner
Last 10 sales are $605 Dec, $450 dec, $692 oct, $603 sept, $478 sep, $403 sep, $580 aug, $700 aug, $450 aug, $401 aug at an average of $536

last 50 sales average of $459
last 100 sales $448
this calendar year $492
lowest this year $380
Highest this year $700.
is this all you need?

[streettuner]

streetturner
Last 10 sales are $605 Dec, $450 dec, $692 oct, $603 sept, $478 sep, $403 sep, $580 aug, $700 aug, $450 aug, $401 aug at an average of $536

last 50 sales average of $459
last 100 sales $448
this calendar year $492
lowest this year $380
Highest this year $700.
is this all you need?

That is a great deal of help for me thanks, now just have to work out a reasonable offer and see if a mate will accept the offer.

[rehau]

streetturner
Last 10 sales are $605 Dec, $450 dec, $692 oct, $603 sept, $478 sep, $403 sep, $580 aug, $700 aug, $450 aug, $401 aug at an average of $536

last 50 sales average of $459
last 100 sales $448
this calendar year $492
lowest this year $380
Highest this year $700.
is this all you need?

what about the last 3 sales, that is all that matters

[inter]

what about the last 3 sales, that is all that matters

can not get accurate anwser

[streettuner]

I'll let you know how sucessful/unsuccessful i was in the next couple of days. Just doesnt seem right not having this apart of my bathurst collection.

[diecastaddict]

I bought the car a little while ago paid $550 of private collector, just because it was a bathurst winner.
Quality is very poor IMO, but have to have to complete the set!
Can anyone tell me why this car gets more than the 91 skyline?

[gab73]

I bought the car a little while ago paid $550 of private collector, just because it was a bathurst winner.
Quality is very poor IMO, but have to have to complete the set!
Can anyone tell me why this car gets more than the 91 skyline?

Probably because its the only 3 wheeled bathurst winner???

[GMC]

I have recently purchased this model, and now require the decals. I was wondering if there was anyone out there who could point me in the direction of some good quality decals.
I was thinking of www.missingdecals.com (http://www.missingdecals.com) but just wanted to hear first hand before i go ahead.
Thanks,

[wayno]

I was thinking of www.missingdecals.com (http://www.missingdecals.com) but just wanted to hear first hand before i go ahead.

Big thumbs up from me for product and service.