Goodbye P.Brock

[stevelb1]

Well what can I say, I know that I have been one of P.Brock's biggest distractors over his racing with HRT at Bathurst, but I can't help but fell sorry for him not even tuning a wheel in the big race, so the fan could get at least one final glimps of the 9 times mountain champion.

The incident that took the 05 car out of the race was noones fault, but thats racing.

Maybe HRT can get the car back on the track for at least a few laps so P.Brock can say goodbye to his many fans, of which I am not one, but I would like to see him say bye all the same.

His interview on Ch10 was of a man who is very gracious in defeat,enjoy your retirement P.Brock you do not need to prove anything to anyone, you deserve it.

[Y2Joel]

It's strange that in the interview he refered to himself as P.Brock. Do you think it might have been a distraction for HRT with Brock on board.

[stevelb1]

Originally posted by Y2Joel
It's strange that in the interview he refered to himself as P.Brock. Do you think it might have been a distraction for HRT with Brock on board.

You'll find that in every interview he refers to himself as P.Brock. He may have a split personality.

[SL/ENUT]

Don't tell me that P.Brock is using the infamous Energy Polerizer?

[stevelb1]

Originally posted by SL/ENUT
Don't tell me that P.Brock is using the infamous Energy Polerizer?

Ive bent over backwards to say something nice about P.Brock so I wont start bagging him just yet.

[SL/ENUT]

Nah its sorry to see Brocky out of the race.He has only one more which is here in Tassie.

[Gillick]

Yeah goodluck on your future endeavours Brocky. ;)

SL/ENUT I take it you're talking about Targa Tasmania? What car is he driving, anyone know? I'm an ignorant bust'd. :D

[Y2Joel]

He's is racing in the Historics at the V8's I believe.

[SL/ENUT]

Originally posted by Y2Joel
He's is racing in the Historics at the V8's I believe.

Thats right Thanks.He will be driving a yellow LJ XU-1 Torana

[SVO Enhanced]

I only remember Brock saying he would drive at Bathurst for the last time. Surely this gives him another crack next year as he never got in the car???

[Kiwiracing]

Was Plato far enough over????:( :confused:

Kiwiracing

[Y2kGoofball]

no he wasnt

Kim Jones kept emphasising he "was on the racing line" which isnt right either, but it is fair enough to say Plato was smack bang in the middle of the track, when as Kim later announced he should've been as far left, even to the point his left wheels were on the grass to make room for such racing.

As Kim pointed out he did have at least an entire car width to the left of him in which to travel, for some reason he paniced and stayed in the middle of the circuit, Cleland DIDNT see the white / yellow flag indicating a slower uncompetitive car as he was too occupied in overtaking Owen AND Dumbrell (which is fair enough ... why not take the opportunity) and bam, when he lept out to overtake he ran into Plato!

[singer]

Originally posted by SL/ENUT
Thats right Thanks.He will be driving a yellow LJ XU-1 Torana The Torrie owned by Admin:)

[Martin Thomas]

Originally posted by Kiwiracing
Was Plato far enough over????:( :confused:

Kiwiracing

I guess he was in a disabled car and a lot of others made it past, 3 on that same corner. I reckon the pit crew could have warned Cleland he was coming up on a disabled car considering where it was and the fact he was dicing for position... It wasn't the dumbest thing done at the race this year. On a different note, was Morris a bit harsh or am I a bit of a softie..

[V8SS]

The sad thing is that whoever was at blame for the Plato incident, he was only about 150 metres from the pit entry where they surely would have replaced the flat right hand tyre and probably sent Brocky out for some laps.
As for Morris, I thought it was a bit harsh to say what he said. Obviously it was the emotion of the moment taking into account all the preparation that must go into preparing for the race and seeing it taken away from you by your co-driver. Maybe next year, he will get someone with a bit more experience.

[Gan88]

I bet those who bought the Plato "last drive" car must feel like a bit of a goose now.

[Renz Man]

Originally posted by Gan88
I bet those who bought the Plato "last drive" car must feel like a bit of a goose now.

Only if it was a speculative purchase.......

[XU-123]

Plato did have to go from the right hand side of Conrod to the pit entry on the LHS of the track.
Maybe he chose the worng place to do it , but he did have to cross the track at some point.

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by SVO Enhanced
I only remember Brock saying he would drive at Bathurst for the last time. Surely this gives him another crack next year as he never got in the car???

im sure the door would be open for another drive but i think it would be for the best if he stepped aside and let the young guys who still have the charge in them show their skills, dont get me wrong im a fan of peter brock but i think his time has passed.


cheers

[Patterson]

Originally posted by Gan88
I bet those who bought the Plato "last drive" car must feel like a bit of a goose now.

I bought the "brock" last drive car.

I couldn't care less about Plato...

I'm guessing it might be his last Aussie drive too....at least for HRT...

[Gan88]

Patterson,

But don't you see the irony in that? It wasn't his last drive. He didn't come within a coee of getting a drive.

I think models should be made retrospectively. This idea of trying to second guess an event seems like a waste of time. My view is that given the time and resources used to build a "nothing" car, they could have done the DJR 1988 car, or the '73, '74 XAs, or a whole heap of other more deserving cars.

On the plus side, the 2002 shouldn't depreciate too much.

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by Patterson
I bought the "brock" last drive car.

I couldn't care less about Plato...

I'm guessing it might be his last Aussie drive too....at least for HRT...

after his poor performance at bathust he would be lucky to even get a driver with anthony tratt.:D


cheers

[Patterson]

Originally posted by Gan88
Patterson,

But don't you see the irony in that? It wasn't his last drive. He didn't come within a coee of getting a drive.

I think models should be made retrospectively. This idea of trying to second guess an event seems like a waste of time. My view is that given the time and resources used to build a "nothing" car, they could have done the DJR 1988 car, or the '73, '74 XAs, or a whole heap of other more deserving cars.

On the plus side, the 2002 shouldn't depreciate too much.

yeah for sure, but it is still the last car he has driven at the mountain....

There's more to the race than the race part of the race. If ya get what I mean...

You could be right about retrospective models though, but then all of those people that went to the mountain to get cars signed etc never would have had the opportunity....

I guess now we'll need to call the car brock's last Qualifying car...

btw, when you say 'more deserving cars' you mean fords don't you???

[Gan88]

Here's a brief list...

1) 1998 S40
2) 1997 320i twinset
3) 1987 RS500 twinset
4) 1980 VC Commodore
5) 1895 XJS
6) 1991 GT-R Sandown
7) 1993 M3
8) 1987 M3 ATCC
9) 1986 240T ATCC
10) 1974 XA GT

[Patterson]

Originally posted by Gan88
Here's a brief list...

1) 1998 S40
2) 1997 320i twinset
3) 1987 RS500 twinset
4) 1980 VC Commodore
5) 1895 XJS
6) 1991 GT-R Sandown
7) 1993 M3
8) 1987 M3 ATCC
9) 1986 240T ATCC
10) 1974 XA GT

I knew it!!!!

All Bloody Fords.....

hehe...just muckin, and I'd actually probably agree with you on most of them....

I still think it was a relevant car to make....

I can't wait to get that 1895 XJS either...:D

[biante2959]

Originally posted by Patterson
I bought the "brock" last drive car.

I couldn't care less about Plato...

I'm guessing it might be his last Aussie drive too....at least for HRT...

Lets all hope its the last time he is given a drive in an V8,It stuck out like dog balls that he was way out of his league driving a V8.Lets hope that his passport is stamped DBCB ( dont bother coming back).
Go Brocky.

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by biante2959
Lets all hope its the last time he is given a drive in an V8,It stuck out like dog balls that he was way out of his league driving a V8.Lets hope that his passport is stamped DBCB ( dont bother coming back).
Go Brocky.
i dont think he needs telling , his performance was below average, his skill was below average really every thing was below average except his need to cause accidents that was sure a A++++++++++:D


cheers

[lukey73]

Guys i think your being a little harsh on Plato, i know he didnt do the best job but i would question who at hrt let him start the race. He stated quite openly that he wasnt coming to terms with the circuit on saturday so why would they throw him in the deepend and get him to start.

It was said a fair few times during the telecast that you really need to be driving V8supercars all year to get a descent speed out of them at bathurst, i for one dont agree on getting people from overseas to drive them 2 times a year at the important races that require 2 drivers.

I am glad i have the model and wouldnt trade it for quids, its a shame that brock didnt get behind the wheel in the race but hey such is life.

[stevelb1]

Now without starting another free for all on me, I think that Brocks getting acquainted with the tyre barrier on saturday may have put the hebbie jebbies in him, as there is no other reason for Plato to start the race, can anyone remember the last time Brock left the track and dented a car, I certainly cant put a date on it.

Being Brocks last stand at the mountain, I cant see HRT willfully denying Brock the chance to start his final fling, something has happened and we can only seculate as to what that maybe.

[lukey73]

Last time he hit a barrier at bathurst was in 94 at reid park, late in the race fairly similar to what alan gurr did yesterday. Who knows the politics behind it all but it is a shame he didnt even get behind the wheel.

[ferrari fan]

Technicly Peter Brock did compete in the 2004 Bathurst race, and he drove in the hour long Qualifyer to take the spot on the starting grid together with the Plato Geezer.
The drivers from the UK did a wonderfull job in turning this last appearance into a demolition derby regarding the Peter Brock "Last race" festivities.
Richards/Richards got Roo'd and are the other ones that had bad luck, but this was due to an Aussie native who paid with it with his/her life, sadly.
I was amazed how much damage there was on the front of the car.

[Malik]

Originally posted by stevelb1
Now without starting another free for all on me, I think that Brocks getting acquainted with the tyre barrier on saturday may have put the hebbie jebbies in him, as there is no other reason for Plato to start the race, can anyone remember the last time Brock left the track and dented a car, I certainly cant put a date on it.

Being Brocks last stand at the mountain, I cant see HRT willfully denying Brock the chance to start his final fling, something has happened and we can only seculate as to what that maybe.

IIRC brock stated on the saturday telecast that I recall hearing that the decision had been made to let Plato start so that by the time the team's pitstop and driver change plan had taken place it would put Brock in the car for the end of the race allowing him to finish for his final bathurst drive.

[singer]

QUOTE] Richards/Richards got Roo'd and are the other ones that had bad luck, but this was due to an Aussie native who paid with it with his/her life, sadly.

FF,

I have to say that I was more surprised that more Roos didn't get skittled & I wasn't that surprised by the amount of damage. Wherever people live there is an ample supply of water. Given the extensive drought we're going through, its only natural for Roos to follow the water & food.

As you know I am a Bus Driver. My Bus has a Bull Bar fitted as I service a semi rural area. I've hit 2 in the past year in exactly the same spot on the bus. At 100kph the amount of damage was extensive. Multiply that by 2.5 & you have an even greater impact speed. I was glad to have the bullbar because if I didn't I would've had a Roo as a passenger.

If the drought goes on much longer, you'll see more Roo's incroaching into the urban environment:(

BTW have you taken any of your Beasts for a blast lately?

Cheers

[biante2959]

Originally posted by dwarfs
i dont think he needs telling , his performance was below average, his skill was below average really every thing was below average except his need to cause accidents that was sure a A++++++++++:D


cheers

Not everything about Plato is below average,Did anyone get the opportunity to meet Mrs Plato,I did and what a chicky babe!
Sophie went out of her way for over an hour to try and find Plato just so I could have his signature. During all that time all she wanted to do was talk about everything (what a loverly chick is doing with JP I'll never know).

[sphinx84]

i watched all the telecast and i thought i hear brock say that this was last no more racing, no more targa hanging up his gloves. i think it was funny that somebody bought the brock car for 485 bucks on the auction site. i had only just ordered mine and got one so whoever bought it must feel a bit sorry. even though the race ended for brocky in the pits he still got the fairwell from all the fans.

[ferrari fan]

Sadly,NO.
I have been to busy with the election, glad that it is over and done.
Now the A9X issue will have to be dealt with very shortly.

[Malik]

Originally posted by singer
QUOTE]

As you know I am a Bus Driver. My Bus has a Bull Bar fitted as I service a semi rural area. I've hit 2 in the past year in exactly the same spot on the bus. At 100kph the amount of damage was extensive. Multiply that by 2.5 & you have an even greater impact speed. I was glad to have the bullbar because if I didn't I would've had a Roo as a passenger.


hehe.. V8SC with roobars.... that could be interesting..

[sphinx84]

has there ever been any talk about putting up fences to stop roos or do they think that it will hadly ever happen. apparently there was a few complaints about the vision of hitting the roo. i didnt see the front shot but saw it on optus and i would hate to think that children were watching this broedcast.

[Y2Joel]

I was most shocked, seeing Skippy jumping in front of the cars. Maybe he should stay in the paddocks.

[singer]

Hey Fellas this is Australia, I live on a property with fences and the Roos just jump over them even over the 2metre fences.

There are millions of Roos & I don't think the problem would be eradicated by fencing the track.

Unfortunately, interaction with wildlife is a part of life in Australia :)

[singer]

Originally posted by Malik
hehe.. V8SC with roobars.... that could be interesting..

It would be interesting. Perhaps you could fit bullbars to the Brutes:D

[singer]

Originally posted by Malik
hehe.. V8SC with roobars.... that could be interesting..

Malik, You're a laugh a minute:D ;)

[chups]

Originally posted by Malik
hehe.. V8SC with roobars.... that could be interesting..

been done

see here :) (http://community.webshots.com/photo/197100388/198 828333BVqerO)

[singer]

Originally posted by chups
been done

see here :) (http://community.webshots.com/photo/197100388/198 828333BVqerO)

love the code 3 work:D

[spoonster05]

Brock also clouted a wall during the top ten in 1995, but it was a shame to see his last Bathurst end on the sort of note it did.

I'm sure that HRT had some very good reasons to start Plato in the car but for Brock not to get a last race drive at Bathurst was disappointing

[wayno]

It didn't pan out for PB but anyone with any nouse about V8 racing new it was never going to.

[chups]

Originally posted by singer
love the code 3 work:D

thanx, it was actually made for another project, but i was using that car as storage for it, and it looked good, so it stayed till i sold the car

[gts4me]

The Brock/Plato 2004 car looks good regardless of whether PB actually raced it or not and I am glad I got it as well as the Brock/Baird 2003 car.

As the mad says, Love Life!

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by gts4me
as well as the Brock/Baird 2003 car.

As the mad says, Love Life!

mate peter brock teamed with baird in 2002 not 2003 , he didnt even race in 2003 or was i just half asleep through the 2003 bob jane t-marts bathust 1000 , i think not:)


cheers

[gts4me]

Sorry to ruin your day dwarfs

That is what I get for dreaming of future Biante releases, namely the 2003 Bathurst 24 hour winner (Driver Peter Brock)
The mind gets foggy and the words come out all wrong
I will try and lift my game - I promise

[Jack71]

Goodbye P.Brock hey?! How many times have we heard that in the past 7 years?! We had the teary eyed farewells in '97. All a bit of a joke now when looked back on.

[dwarfs]

Originally posted by Jack71
Goodbye P.Brock hey?! How many times have we heard that in the past 7 years?! We had the teary eyed farewells in '97. All a bit of a joke now when looked back on.

and in 2002, and maybe 2005:D


cheers

[Damian]

Here (http://community.webshots.com/photo/199629077/199 643489SqhFhX) is a photo of Brock's Car after the massive hit from John Cleland.

Regards
Damian

[Nedwob]

I guess unless he decides to retire 05 in 05'. His last lap around Mt Panorama was in his 1979 A9X. His greatest win, fitting perhaps?

[a9x]

Originally posted by Nedwob
I guess unless he decides to retire 05 in 05'. His last lap around Mt Panorama was in his 1979 A9X. His greatest win, fitting perhaps?
that was great to watch except when it looked like the a9x started loosing fluid
was it a radiator hose? or something else

[Nedwob]

Yep, it was the overflow: She got a wee bit hot waiting around for everyone else. Brocky was more than happy, so we are too.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Nedwob
Yep, it was the overflow: She got a wee bit hot waiting around for everyone else. Brocky was more than happy, so we are too.

One could easily come to the conclusion that even the A9X got sentimental because of the occasion and shed a tear or two;)
Anyway, to see the A9X go round and even to hear the raw grauwl out of the exhaust was the highlight ,together with the pics of the Goss XA GT, of the day. Thank You!!!

[GRPIII]

when brocky retired in 97, didnt he say he was retiring from full time racing?
so a cameo at bathurst & targa etc shouldnt be classed as coming out of retirement.

[Malik]

From Racetime



Posted 13/10/04: Brock and Johnson back driving V8 Supercars at the Gillette Challenge

AVESCO
Oct 13 2004
Brock and Johnson back driving V8 Supercars at the Gillette Challenge

Australian motorsport’s greatest rivals will don the race suits together and get behind the wheel of a V8 Supercar for one last time next week. And two people will have the chance to go along for the ride of their lives with them, all in the name of charity.



Dick Johnson and Peter Brock have battled for three decades in the names of Ford and Holden. As part of the Gillette V8 Supercar Challenge at the Lexmark Indy 300 next week they will do it all again – to raise money for breast cancer research.



The pair will also give someone the once in a lifetime opportunity to be in the seat alongside them while they complete a flying lap around the spectacular Gold Coast circuit.



The ‘hot’ laps of the Surfers Paradise circuit are currently being auctioned on E-Bay with all money raised going to Breast Cancer Research. Bidders can access the auction through the front page of the V8 Supercar Championship Series website at www.v8supercar.com.au. Bidding closes at 3pm on Thursday (tomorrow).



Johnson has not raced in a V8 Supercar since he made a brief comeback to race with son Steve in 2000. Brock was due to compete one last time at the Bob Jane T-Marts Bathurst 1000 at the weekend but did not complete a single lap when his co-driver Jason Plato crashed his car.



“I’m really looking forward to it,� said Johnson who will drive his son Steven’s Shell Helix Ford Falcon in the Hot Lap with the successful bidder.



Johnson recounted his rivalry with Brock fondly.



“The best part of it was that we had a lot of respect for each other. If we swapped paint twice in our entire careers I’d be very surprised. We’ve had careers that have paralleled in a lot of ways.



“Now he were are all these years later still involved in the sport. Our sport has certainly changed a lot in the last few years.



“Still, it will bring back a lot of memories when we race around the Gold Coast circuit together one more time.�



Brock is also anticipating a flood of memories when he tackles Johnson again, albeit in different circumstances to the good old days.



“We are friendly compatriots who enjoy a bit of a chat and a joke,� said Brock who will drive the impressive Holden Racing Team’s PR2 for the Hot Lap.



“He was fabulous for the sport and I don’t know if the V8 Supercar world really understands the contribution that Dick Johnson has made to current V8 Supercar racing.



“We both came through a tough school and know what it was really like. It will be great next weekend to be there and do this, as well as being part of the fantastic series we have these days.�



Johnson and Brock will take to the Gold Coast streets on Saturday week.

[Monaro Maniac]

Brocky wasn't even going to qualify the car except Platto was having too much trouble. As hard as it was not to get to see him race it was kind of fitting that he finish in a torana. He has never said before that he was quiting ALL racing until now, goodbye Peter and thanks for a lifetime of good memories.

[Kiwiracing]

Anyone know what the Auctions went for?

Cheers
Kiwiracing

[mick xu1]

Originally posted by Kiwiracing
Anyone know what the Auctions went for?

Cheers
Kiwiracing

The last time i saw the one for Brock it was up too 3,700 with 9 min to go.

As for the A9X to see it going up Mountain straight sent chills up my spine it was worth driving 1200km just to see and hear that amazing car