FORD (AUSTRALIAN) XY FALCON GTHO - 1973 ATCC Winner - Allan Moffat 1973

[Nathan Rzepecki]

Website allocation for this model was all sold out in 28 minutes.

If you have missed out please contact your local Biante stockist which you can find on the links page of our website. Else keep this item on your watchlist as some more may become available once the item is released but this is not confirmed.

[Jungle Boy]

How many is the limited edition for this model?

[mick xu1]

Nathan, when do these models look like hitting the model stores

[singer]

I had a specialists appoinment which I made 4 months ago. Got home & tried to place an order. Did your server go into melt down????:(

[ferrari fan]

Do NOT know what the stress is all about!!
I just have a preorder with my fav. Model retailer, (TRIKING 08-93221828) sends all over the world!!
Another fav in the East is Bridge Model Cars (08 85310477), they also take preorders and do send all over the world.
There are many more exelent retailers, (Modelcars Too, I use as well) , just look up the list on this website aqnd you will find one near you, build a report (buy some models) and you are assured of the ones you want.

[Esses]

Originally posted by singer
I had a specialists appoinment which I made 4 months ago. Got home & tried to place an order. Did your server go into melt down????:(

Oh well. One less for me to deliver.:)

[singer]

FF,

I foresaw this event happening so I preordered with my retailer, however, as I've said before, when you don't have reliable local retailers around, it does tend to make things hard.

Anyway, I've got one & I'm happy :)

[mick xu1]

Don't have drama with getting one.... stitched one up with my regular store when first heard about it

just want to know when we can expect them.

[singer]

If I'm correct (feel free to correct me, if i'm not)

Model is limited to 6,000

Model should be available in retail stores in about 2 weeks

[mick xu1]

Thanks Singer, looking forward to it, and the DJR Sierra & Janson Torana as well

what a great way to start the year off

[Nick Short]

Is this going to be one of those models whose value skyrockets, or will it stay at sensible levels, do you think? I can't predict with any accuracy!

[singer]

Originally posted by Nick Short
Is this going to be one of those models whose value skyrockets, or will it stay at sensible levels, do you think? I can't predict with any accuracy!

It is my opinion that this XY's value will skyrocket. It seems to be any Moffat/XY combination appreciate rapidly:)

[VXfan]

Had a house inspection at 5.00pm yesterday! (2pm perth time) - Luckily I pre-ordered this car through a local stockist ,phew:)
Sold out in 28mins?:eek: Thought it would.

[Nick Short]

How many were sold in that 28 minutes? It would be a pretty rapid rate - we're just like a bunch of women at a New Year's Sale!

[Spud95]

Yep I will be getting this car had it ordered through Bridge Model Cars.Sold out in 28 minutes this car will be worth a far bit right away.

[BATHURSTFAN]

The place where I get my models from looks like they won't be selling models anymore, when a model like this comes up I can't order from the Biante site during work hours as I'm not permitted to use the internet for private use at work like most people but this is strictly enforced where I'm at.

Hopefully I can still get one but if not that the way it goes.

[VXfan]

Originally posted by BATHURSTFAN
The place where I get my models from looks like they won't be selling models anymore, when a model like this comes up I can't order from the Biante site during work hours as I'm not permitted to use the internet for private use at work like most people but this is strictly enforced where I'm at.

Hopefully I can still get one but if not that the way it goes.
Sending you a pm mate,might be able to help.

[KiwiRallyFan]

Originally posted by Nathan Rzepecki
Website allocation for this model was all sold out in 28 minutes.

28 minutes must just about be the record for a Biante model selling out. I think the DJR Sierra took about 90 minutes, the Brock A9X would have taken longer than 28 minutes because of all the server problems, and I think from memory the Moffat XA took something like 40 minutes.

:cool:

[Hey Charger]

Originally posted by Nick Short
How many were sold in that 28 minutes? It would be a pretty rapid rate - we're just like a bunch of women at a New Year's Sale!

hahahahahahahahahahaha...luvd that one

[john]

What's the bet this model will be all over eBay as soon as its available.

[sleepy]

Originally posted by john
What's the bet this model will be all over eBay as soon as its available. you can gaurantee it will be the moffat xa and brock a9x are still flooding in

[Nick Short]

It'll be on eBay before it's even in the hot sweaty hands of the seller, as has happened in the past.

[thekid_600]

i feel like crying.......

i want one and i have none. :(

yeah they'll be on Ebay, but at probably double release price... :(

[sleepy]

i have seenthem on ebay before my local retailer even receives his stock..dont ask me how must be some sort of a time warp or something..

[awawaw]

i was going to get one but i thought id rather have the next djr seirra and morris a9x. cant have them all. ive already brought ones outside my projected buying window. better to leave them for the people that really want them. but sadly not everyone thinks that way.

[thekid_600]

oh yeah..... Dick's Sierra.......

Want to ask something, but I better not ask it here or someone will toast me for changing topics. :D

[singer]

Originally posted by thekid_600
oh yeah..... Dick's Sierra.......

Want to ask something, but I better not ask it here or someone will toast me for changing topics.

Out of the frying pan into the FIRE:rolleyes: ;)

[LC Torana]

You were right Nick

The Moffat XY Falcon GTHO - 1973 ATCC Winner is already listed on ebay

Starting bid $199.00


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27157&item=6944100043&rd=1



How about copyright, they are using Biante's Picture

[ferrari fan]

With an earlier release already on more than $850 and the skyrocketing of all the XW/Y Moffat models, how is a new collector going to get a decent collection together :confused:
The use of someone else's picture is enough for Ebay to can the listing, I believe.
Brock and Moffat collections must be every where
Even the 61D and the 1D are well above the retail price and are selling like hotcakes.
Funny buisness this model collecting, as the '73 Polesitter Goss is still available at retail or even below, and I think that this is an oustanding model together with the DJR RS500 and the BRUT33 XB.

[Jungle Boy]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
With an earlier release already on more than $850 and the skyrocketing of all the XW/Y Moffat models, how is a new collector going to get a decent collection together :confused:
The use of someone else's picture is enough for Ebay to can the listing, I believe.
Brock and Moffat collections must be every where
Even the 61D and the 1D are well above the retail price and are selling like hotcakes.
Funny buisness this model collecting, as the '73 Polesitter Goss is still available at retail or even below, and I think that this is an oustanding model together with the DJR RS500 and the BRUT33 XB.

New collectors are just going to have to dig deep to complete their XY/XW Moffat collection. Anything that is limited edition and collectable will go up in value. I am glad to know that my Moffat 65E which i paid for $450 2 years ago is worth over $850.

I agree Ferrari Fan it is funny business. The Brock HT Monaro is still available at retail price (i would have thought this model would have sold out in 30 minutes) and I agree the Goss XA is a sensational model. But why aren't they in peoples collection?

Everyone’s goals in collecting are different. I collect only 1/18 scale models of the late 60's and 70's road muscle cars which include Ford, Holden and Chargers. I also collect all Bathurst winners and any XY produced because the XY's are sensational looking cars!. This is probably why the XY's all go for top dollar because they are everyone’s favorite and everyone collects them.

I also collect 1/12 scale Ferrari's, F40, F50 and Enzo and MS Championship cars (i am missing the latest one. Can you help Ferrari Fan?).

My collection used to consist of 1/64, 1/43 and 1/18 but i re assessed my collection plan. i ended up selling off my 1/64 and 1/43 and many 1/18's. The good thing about it all was I got all my money back + a little extra.

I have no doubt that the Moffat ATCC XY will be one of the best models in everyone's collection. I predict this model will reach the high price of the Moffat 65E in no time. So if you see it on eBay at a good price buy it! This model is the Point Piper of real estate in Sydney. This model is the blue ribbon of the XY's...............

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Jungle Boy
$850....the Goss XA is a sensational model. But why aren't they in peoples collection?
Everyone’s goals in collecting are different. I also collect 1/12 scale Ferrari's, F40, F50 and Enzo and MS Championship cars (i am missing the latest one. Can you help Ferrari Fan?).
This model is the blue ribbon of the XY's...............
Mattel is making a meal of their issues and the information regarding their models, very hard to know what is released, when,etc. Their website is a mess.
There is also no more documentation available anymore.
This has caused some people to make models,(code 3) and try to sell them of as L/E, neverreleased issues.
The 2004 regular model is out and about and should be freely available, there is a host of "specials being produced, but good info is very scarse indeed.
Minichamps brings out a catalogue and CD's by which you can check your collection and coming issues, not so with Mattel,sadly.
I could say that the F1 2000 "King of Rain" Warsteiner GP of Germany,L/E 9999 is the most valuable in their collection, the rest, who knows. :mad:

[sleepy]

Originally posted by biante4923
[B]You were right Nick

The Moffat XY Falcon GTHO - 1973 ATCC Winner is already listed on ebay

Starting bid $199.00


how did it get on here when we have only just preordered the models

[Footy]

Originally posted by sleepy
how did it get on here when we have only just preordered the models
It wouldnt be too difficult,if a retailer or any body that was sure of an order wanted to,just plugg it on ebay,sort of a pre-- pre order,just quadroopple the price.:mad: Ar@@@@S!!!

[sleepy]

Originally posted by Footy
It wouldnt be too difficult,if a retailer or any body that was sure of an order wanted to,just plugg it on ebay,sort of a pre-- pre order,just quadroopple the price.:mad: Ar@@@@S!!! well i hope his doesnt turn up:D

[Nick Short]

The first time I saw a model on eBay before Biante had even released it, I hoped the same thing! It's a bit cheeky to say the least!

[LC Torana]

This is a question that has been asked on this ebay auction fopr the Moffat 73 ATCC XY

Q: Can you please let me know what the certificate number is? Cheers Answered on 22-Jan-05

A: SORRY CANNOT GIVE YOU A CERTIFICATE NUMBER YET. THEY ARE BEING DELIVERED TO ME AS WE SPEAK,
BUT AS I WILL BE GETTING SEVERAL OF THEM I WILL GIVE THE WINNER THE LOWEST NUMBER OR A CHOICE
OF THE NUMBER. THERE ARE 6000 OF THESE MODELS MADE. PICK UP IS POSSIBLE UPON AUCTION END. THANK YOU.



He says they are being delivered as we speak..... Thats news to me and Im sure most on this forum would agree with me on that, wish It was on its way already

and

Pick up is possible upon auction end.... Is there even a set date yet that this model will begin shipping from Biante, his auction ends on Jan 31.

[Footy]

Originally posted by sleepy
well i hope his doesnt turn up:D
Is it illegal to do what he is doing?
1:Using Biantes prototype picture(copyright?)
2:Selling something he has'nt got,I know some stores do it but they get the item in at a set RRP not a highly inflated price or a lets see how much you will pay price.

Does Biante chase these people? Just a thought!

[sleepy]

yes the whole thing sounds a bit dodgy.. selling something he doesnt have and yes how does he know when he will get it most other models i have advance ordered on the website usually take around a month before they are shipped...

[Wilbo]

If the ebay seller labels the item clearly as a pre-order on ebay, there is nothing wrong with that. If people know that it is a pre-order, then people know that he will hopefully ship it as soon as he gets it. I have seen this many times on ebay with other diecast cars but sometimes people do misunderstand the pre-order concept. IF he does NOT clearly label it as a pre-order in his auction, then that is illegal and it should be reported to ebay.

Cheers! Will from Canada

[The Hammer]

There is a way to stuff these people up.
I saw a lot of this done on EBay and Sold.com during the aftermath of the Sept 11 Terrorist attacks

There were a large number of people trying profit, by selling NYC Newspapers reporting the attacks and trying to sell them as once in a lifetime "Collectors Items".

EBay and Sold members were just putting in crazy bids of any large sum to be the winning bidder and then not paying for the item. They then sent the seller an offensive/ Abusive Email to them, that was listed in the "ask the seller a question colomn"

You obviously couldn't do it too many times before being banned but, whats the worst that could happen to you. Being labelled as a non paying bidder.

Big Deal;)

[Footy]

Originally posted by Wilbo
IF he does NOT clearly label it as a pre-order in his auction, then that is illegal and it should be reported to ebay.

Cheers! Will from Canada
Have just been on Ebay ,its a bit of ajoke as you cant explain the situation,you can just click on their prompts,oh well see what happens next.

[admin]

This would explain the emails we receive asking when pre-orders will be delivered... May just have to delay some of these to upset their applecarts.

Bev ;)

[john]

Originally posted by admin
This would explain the emails we receive asking when pre-orders will be delivered... May just have to delay some of these to upset their applecarts.

Bev ;)


Go on Bev, Do It, hold the cars back for another week or two, so these "dealers" can cop bad feedback.:D

[Nathan Rzepecki]

Originally posted by singer
I had a specialists appoinment which I made 4 months ago. Got home & tried to place an order. Did your server go into melt down????:(

No the server did not go into melt down from what I can tell all ran smoothly this time. If you were to slow or not ready at 2pm WST when they were put on site then sorry you missed out.
Try contacting one of our stockists, a list of them can be found on our links page. http://www.biante.com.au/links.cfm

[Dingo]

Originally posted by biante4923
You were right Nick

The Moffat XY Falcon GTHO - 1973 ATCC Winner is already listed on ebay

Starting bid $199.00


http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27157&item=6944100043&rd=1



How about copyright, they are using Biante's Picture
Appears as though the item is no longer for sale and the auction ended - either by the seller, or by eBay themselves...

[The Hammer]

So they pulled their auction eh ?

Gee, i wonder if the seller reads the Biante Forum ? :D

[Footy]

Originally posted by biante6718
So they pulled their auction eh ?

Gee, i wonder if the seller reads the Biante Forum ? :D
I would hope Ebay administraters read this forum and acted on complaints. ;)

[Goodwrench3]

This latest edition to the AM collection I'm reliably informed is now just days away from my retailers outlet. Can't wait!

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Goodwrench3
This latest edition to the AM collection I'm reliably informed is now just days away from my retailers outlet. Can't wait!

Wrenchy; where did you get this info from?
By the way ,do you and your brother need your A9X done?
this weekend is a collectors swapmeet at Cannington.
I'll be there with all the decals.

[Footy]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Wrenchy; where did you get this info from?
By the way ,do you and your brother need your A9X done?
this weekend is a collectors swapmeet at Cannington.
I'll be there with all the decals.

Bert,What time,what day,where?:D

[ferrari fan]

this sunday normal time, cannington greyhounds grounds, where the expo is held as well.

[castkrazy]

According to this weeks newsletter we won't have to wait too long for this wicked model to arrive now . Woo Hooo... :D

Pre-orders should be early to mid week , Fingers crossed . :p

[GSXR1]

Just picked mine up - very nice - I missed the boat on the 64E & 65E, but this isn't a bad substitute at all...:D

[Goodwrench3]

An excellent addition to the Moff stable this - potentially the final Moffat XY HO.
That makes (along with the W's) 5 in that collection. In future this model will be as sought after as the previous Moffat XW/XY releases (with the obvious exception of the 65E!).

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Goodwrench3
An excellent addition to the Moff stable this - potentially the final Moffat XY HO.
That makes (along with the W's) 5 in that collection. In future this model will be as sought after as the previous Moffat XW/XY releases (with the obvious exception of the 65E!).

Wrenchy; the issue numbers of all the XW/Y are the same and in time these all will be aprox the same in collectabillity in my oppinion.
At the moment the price for a 65E is rather High.
The 64E, 61D, 1D and 9 will catch up in time in my oppinion.
The brand recognition is still growing and the fact that this model has gone ape will turn it into a mithycal item with the side effect of dragging the other ones up as well.

[zeitgeist]

The one that surprises me the most is the 1D. I guess simply by being a Moffat XY, it carries a certain intrinsic value but, outside of that, what is the significance of this car?

BC

[Dingo]

Originally posted by zeitgeist
The one that surprises me the most is the 1D. I guess simply by being a Moffat XY, it carries a certain intrinsic value but, outside of that, what is the significance of this car?
Moffat put it on pole, probably would have won had it not been for both Brock's Torana, and the lousy weather that helped said Torana. Also the last Moffat GTHO to race at Bathurst I suppose :D

[zeitgeist]

Originally posted by Dingo
Moffat put it on pole ... Also the last Moffat GTHO to race at Bathurst I suppose :D

Ahh. That clears up some confusion. Thanks for the info!

BC

[sleepy]

Originally posted by ferrari fan
Wrenchy; the issue numbers of all the XW/Y are the same and in time these all will be aprox the same in collectabillity in my oppinion.
At the moment the price for a 65E is rather High.
The 64E, 61D, 1D and 9 will catch up in time in my oppinion.
The brand recognition is still growing and the fact that this model has gone ape will turn it into a mithycal item with the side effect of dragging the other ones up as well. the xw 61d was limited to 5000 while most of the rest of the moffat collection i think are 6000... am i correct???i only have 4 moffat cars there all limited to 6000 except the 61d which is 5000...

[Prodrive]

I see number 19/6000 is for sale!

Do you think its good to have low numbers?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6946623910&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

[ferrari fan]

NO, The certificate number is not related to a specific model car as these do not carry a number on their body.
I could swap with you certificates without exchance of the actual model.
I never look at my certificate never mind the numbers, but on a very regular bassis do admire the models.

[castkrazy]

Originally posted by Prodrive
I see number 19/6000 is for sale!

Do you think its good to have low numbers?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6946623910&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

I don't think it's the be all and end all but to some people it does carry some weight , although I myself find it a bit of a novelty when I get a low one .

But my priority when buying a model is the condition of the model and packaging and that the model has no flaws , which in my opinion is more important than a number .

[bernoo]

I relation to this #9 Moffat XY, the story goes that it was stolen from a Ford Dealer in Adelaide a couple of days before the race. The dealer I think was Bowden Ford ( now Maughan Thiem Ford ). I am told a white XY Phase 3 was taken from the showroom floor, painted red and haistily made up to a race car and raced . Rumor has it that that car is still around in race trim and if you open the doors or bonnet the origional white paint is there. It lives in the Adelaide Hills in someones shed. ( Boy would I love to find that car )Moffats real car was recovered missing the carbie.A thank you note left in it by the thief. Can anyone verify the story. AND......... I dont take drugs:D

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by bernoo
I relation to this #9 Moffat XY, the story goes that it was stolen from a Ford Dealer in Adelaide a couple of days before the race. The dealer I think was Bowden Ford ( now Maughan Thiem Ford ). I am told a white XY Phase 3 was taken from the showroom floor, painted red and haistily made up to a race car and raced . Rumor has it that that car is still around in race trim and if you open the doors or bonnet the origional white paint is there. It lives in the Adelaide Hills in someones shed. ( Boy would I love to find that car )Moffats real car was recovered missing the carbie.A thank you note left in it by the thief. Can anyone verify the story. AND......... I dont take drugs:D

This hastily painted up car did not last long as according to the flyer after 4 laps Moffat sat the race out on a tractorseat on the side of the track.

[bernoo]

Wel wel FF. I better read the flyer:rolleyes:

[ZORAK]

Okay so I was away when the Advanced Orders for this happened. I was away when the 2nd chance happened and I missed out on this one!

I have one on order with my supplier but if it falls through who has a spare and what do you want for it? Willing to swap or a straight out purchase?

Z! :(

BTW I updated my Swap list today

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by bernoo
Wel wel FF. I better read the flyer:rolleyes:

Wel wel Bernoo; and your real message to me is??

[Moffat Fan]

Originally posted by bernoo
I relation to this #9 Moffat XY, the story goes that it was stolen from a Ford Dealer in Adelaide a couple of days before the race. The dealer I think was Bowden Ford ( now Maughan Thiem Ford ). I am told a white XY Phase 3 was taken from the showroom floor, painted red and haistily made up to a race car and raced . Rumor has it that that car is still around in race trim and if you open the doors or bonnet the origional white paint is there. It lives in the Adelaide Hills in someones shed. ( Boy would I love to find that car )Moffats real car was recovered missing the carbie.A thank you note left in it by the thief. Can anyone verify the story. AND......... I dont take drugs:D

The real story is

Originally posted by Moffat Fan
At Round six of the 1973 ATCC in Adelaide Moffat's car was stolen from Stillwell Ford in Adelaide.

The race was delayed while police hinted for the car, but alas as race time approached, no car.

Murray Carter offered his car to Moffat which he accepted.

In probably his best ever drive he started from the rear of the field. Copped a black flag to come in and have a loose exhaust examined. And went on to get second place behind Peter Brock.

The last round of the 1973 ATCC was held at Warwick Farm and the only Falcon to finish was Murray Carter.

This is a very significant car in ATCC and Allan Moffat history and should not be overlooked.

Hope this clears it up for you

[zigi08]

Great model got mine today! yahooooo Love those early touring cars...keep them coming Biante! :D

two questions for everyone: Are there any more Moffat XW to XY Falcons to come??? and When are we going to see some racing 1/18th Chargers???

[Goodwrench3]

Everyone should have their cars by now.
So the question is - has anyone seen any on the shelves lately?

[mick xu1]

No I have been to three Model shops in Brisbane.... and not one, my mate rang around to all the Ford dealers and was told they are all gone as well

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by Goodwrench3
Everyone should have their cars by now.
So the question is - has anyone seen any on the shelves lately?

YES ; Triking in Perth has some and also the Janson-Perkins!
08 9322 1828.

[Nick Short]

I was smilingly told by the SA Hobby Shop in Adelaide that their Biantes are $200, but they did have one Moffat in stock. Is there another shop selling Biantes for as much as that anywhere else? This is current issues, not older, rare models.

[jsr555]

Low numbers, uless you had numbers, 1, 9 or 73, I do not really think it matters, but hey, some people go nuts over low numbers!!!

[LC Torana]

I got close #0078,

would have been the perfect number for the Brock A9X

[Footy]

Originally posted by Goodwrench3
Everyone should have their cars by now.
So the question is - has anyone seen any on the shelves lately?

Yes. Magnolia cards and gifts,Mirrabooka shopping center Perth.

[the collector]

Shire's models got some out got mine today.
I still remember the race at Oran park where he raced the car, I think one of the wheels then was painted or something like that.
Hard to think back 30 odd years on one race after seeing heaps over the years.
Great model, another XY to my collection.;)

[XF SVO]

i missed out on this model through the site so i had to do a ring around at a few model shops and lucky me i managed to pick up the last one for $169. i guess the year of the rooster is working for me - lol