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clubbie
14-03-2005, 04:30 PM
Guys

I'm writting a feature for a magazine on the 10 most spectacular crashes in Australian Motorsport.

I want to stick with accident the drivers walked away from with few or no injuries.

If you want to help out please give me a brief description on your favourite and include any pix you may have (dont worry I'm not going to use the pix just interested in seeing them).

I have a top 10 in my head but want to see what you guys think.

Dale Robertson
14-03-2005, 04:52 PM
1 Bathurst 1981 multy car
2 Johnson 1983 hardies heroes
3 Johnson 1980 Bathurst
4 Brock and co calder or Adelaide 83/4 sports sedans
5 Bill Brown 71 Bathurst
6 Doulman Oran park 94/5
7 Lowndes Calder park
8 John bowe Phillip island 95 ?
9 Tomas Mezara Eastern ck 95 ?
10 Williamson Bathurst 84 practice
11 Big Rev Kev Bathurst 82
12 Seton & medieke Lakeside
This list off the top of my head of good hits!!

:)

toecutter
14-03-2005, 05:28 PM
Some where in the top 10.........

Carrera Cup at Sandown when Marcus Marshall VIP Pet Foods Porsche gave Matt Coleman a multiple roll over roller coaster ride.

There are a few pics HERE (http://www.cupcar.com.au/events/?fuseaction=info&id=12&ct_id=0&i=2&page=gallery) at top of cupcar photo gallery 2003.

stonebrosfan
14-03-2005, 05:29 PM
Jason Richards at puke in 03, and noske at the same event.

baylissfan
14-03-2005, 05:41 PM
How about Bargwana a few years ago at Phillip Island.

waldo
14-03-2005, 05:49 PM
Don't forget Tomas Mezera barrel-rolling the Daily Planet Commodore at the Chase at Bathurst. Just can't recall which year it was.

mick xu1
14-03-2005, 05:52 PM
Mark Skaife Eastern Creek 1995 in the Winfield VR Commodore, the car was stuffed

Rodshell
14-03-2005, 05:57 PM
Johnnie Walker Sandown '76

Oh Five
14-03-2005, 06:16 PM
The two that stick in my mind were Johnson 83 and Lowndes Calder park, having seen them happen live made my guts churn.
While on the subject, has anybody got any photo's or video footage of Skaife's Eastern Ck crash??

Oh Five
14-03-2005, 06:21 PM
Larkham and Morris at ... Oran Park was it???

Oh Five
14-03-2005, 06:25 PM
Moffat in the MHDT Commode Bathurst 86 on the friday:mad:

wayno
14-03-2005, 06:27 PM
John Bowe's big one out the back of Phillip Island in the DJR Falcon (would it be 93?). Also remember Allan Hamilton and Bartlett in F5000's at the old Dunlop Bridge at Sandown MANY years ago.
I remember these three accidents because I saw them all.

clubbie
14-03-2005, 06:39 PM
No video of Skaifes accident exists. If I remember correctly it was during Friday practice

singer
14-03-2005, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by wayno
John Bowe's big one out the back of Phillip Island in the DJR Falcon (would it be 93?). Also remember Allan Hamilton and Bartlett in F5000's at the old Dunlop Bridge at Sandown MANY years ago.
I remember these three accidents because I saw them all.

Now How Old are you??????????

<40 or >40:confused: :eek:

wayno
14-03-2005, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by singer
Now How Old are you??????????

<40 or >40:confused: :eek:

Close mate. Just turned 36, but blessed with a great memory when it comes to motor sport. Wish it had of applied to school.....

XR8
14-03-2005, 07:07 PM
Some good ones there.
Yep DJ 1983 is the most vivid one for me.

The Murph effort at Phillip Island is another. (1995?)

What about Mark Larkham at Bathurst 1996 in the wet on Conrod Straight?

Mike Burgmann at Bathurst in 1986 (RIP).

As others have said, there's plenty to choose from but a top 10 isn't as easy as it looks?

Ed :)

Kenseth17
14-03-2005, 09:22 PM
Johnson Bathurst '83 along with Lowndes at Calder were the two that popped straight into my head when I read the question.The Bathurst multi car crash of '81 comes a close third.
The other one that came into my head was Nigel Mansell's rear blowout at the Adelaide GP in '86 but I am not sure if this would count??

Kenseth17
14-03-2005, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by waldo
Don't forget Tomas Mezera barrel-rolling the Daily Planet Commodore at the Chase at Bathurst. Just can't recall which year it was.

1997 from memory.

ferrari fan
14-03-2005, 09:28 PM
The biggest and saddest in Australian M/S must be the one that in the end claimed Garry Cooper

ZORAK
15-03-2005, 01:19 AM
Didn't Moffat end-over-end the XB and Phillip Island and totally destroy the car? Can't remember which one it was, I think it was the XA converted to XB and before Brut 33 so maybe the City Ford?

Z

AmonFan
15-03-2005, 04:51 AM
Allan Newton in the Elfin MS7 at Calder in 1984 when his throttle stuck and assaulted the fence at tin shed...... that was a huge hit....

Devek Van Zelms 2 big hits at Mazda House at Amaroo, 1 in the Capri Chev and the other in the Prelude Chev......

Tony Bosnjaks hit at Amaroo's dead stop in the Porsche when he ran out of brakes......

Its still early i'll recall dates later, lol

Ive seen some totally wicked Superkart crashes (been involved in a few myself), lol...... but one of the oddest i ever saw was a certain chanel 10 commentator racing side by side with a few other guys in karts going up bitupave hill after taking the flag and going to shake hands when they are still probly doing near on 130 ks and the suddenly karts blend together beautifully and next thing im faced with karts and bodies everywhere...... fortunately the drivers escaped serious injury......

AmonFan
15-03-2005, 04:54 AM
What crashed claimed Garrie Cooper? he was preparing his car at his workshop when he died..... he did have a big wreck at Sandown at the AGP meet in 1978 which also featured Schuppan, Davo and Hamilton having big hits.... However Garrie had already had a heart prob before that....

KiwiRallyFan
15-03-2005, 05:12 AM
If you're looking for spectacular crashes, how about the crash at the start of the 2002 Australian Grand Prix when Ralf Schumacher flew over Rubens Barrichello. Here's a photo of the crash....Flying Shuey (http://people.freenet.de/f1network/picture12.jpg).
Also, didn't Mika Hakkinen have a bad crash at the Grand Prix in the mid 90's (96?).

wayno
15-03-2005, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by XR8
The Murph effort at Phillip Island is another. (1995?)


That one was 1997 from memory. I was sitting right on the fence about 50 meters from where the car impacted the bank. Didn't look that spectacular but it made a hell of a thump when it hit the bank.

Dingo
15-03-2005, 05:35 AM
Peter Williamson's Supra-bending exploits of 1984 (Bathurst start-line accident) and 1986 (solo car accident under the JPS Bridge)...

Highlander
15-03-2005, 06:29 AM
Mansells Tyre letting go in the Adelaide F1 was pretty spectacular famous incident .

Nivola
15-03-2005, 09:08 AM
Lets add some scary moments.

Justin Cotter at Calder the same weekend as Lowndes barrel roll.
A formula ford that high is scary!

AIR sports sedan race startline crash that was big.

There are so many more. So many with out a happy ending.

castkrazy
15-03-2005, 09:35 AM
Jim Reeds Top fuel Dragster barrel rolling over the barrier and disinigrating when it hit a lighting pole , the engine went tumbling along the outer track like you wouldn't believe and not too much of the car left either , and unbelievably he survived , what a ledgend the guy is .

I can't remember what year it was but definately an unwanted highlight of his career that he'd probably rather forget .

wayno
15-03-2005, 09:37 AM
Many people have mentioned the Lowndes crash at Calder. It was a beauty as I was there that day. Race two it was from memory. I was working for Commodore Crazy magazine and had photographed race one from the spot where the car came to rest. Foolishly I moved around to the exit of turn two to photograoh the second race to get a different perspective! :mad:

adhowie
15-03-2005, 10:20 AM
hi
Cant remember the drivers
it was at oran park around 2000-01
a car stalled on the start line and a tailender came flying through and collected the other car. a BIG SHUNT.

Michael49
15-03-2005, 01:21 PM
I know you said "driver walking away" so this doesn't really count, but i'll never ever forget, a young and very promising bloke named Bevan Gibson, flipped over backwards at the last hump on Conrod. He was driving a Bob Jane big banger sports car.
And speaking of Bob Jane, what about the Mustang at Catalina Park.

Cheers Michael

singer
15-03-2005, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by wayno
Close mate. Just turned 36, but blessed with a great memory when it comes to motor sport. Wish it had of applied to school.....

You looked younger with the beer in your hand with Brad at the AGP;)

Look forward to seeing you hen you come this way.
Cheers

moxo
15-03-2005, 02:30 PM
Allan Newton's was HUGE. Mid-air braking does not work.

How about five cars all at once at Amaroo in a 3 Litre race. From memory they included Rod Stevens, Peter Williamson, Russell Skaife and a couple more. They were the lead group and all hit oil that had been left the lap before.

Arthur Hardwick went on to winn narrowly from Terry Shiel.

No footage but Larry Perkins reckoned he left more debris over central Australia than Skylab, when he rolled a VW in the 1979 Repco Trial.


Moxo

BATHURSTFAN
15-03-2005, 02:58 PM
1. Larkham/Morris
2. Lowndes rollover
3. Bargs/Murphy at P.I.
4. Bargs in the Young Lions car at Bathurst at Forest Elbow
5. The two poms at Bathurst last year.

awawaw
15-03-2005, 03:00 PM
cant think of too many that havent been mentioned but moffat in 84 at surfers when he tried to pass a backmaker before the first turn (got this on vid but you miss the action) and that susuki? roll on conrod into the chase. that one was bad but he walked away. that was 95-6?

when dick deceided to go right instead of left on conrod my 14yo heart sank.

BATHURSTFAN
15-03-2005, 03:33 PM
I was at Surfers in 1984 also, you can see some of my pics here

http://www.members.tripod.com/motorsportarchive1/1980s_page_1.htm

Glenn

clubbie
15-03-2005, 05:25 PM
OK, have made a few changes to my list and have decide to stick with the Fords and Holden thang.

Below is my top 8 list with 2 maybes. Sure there have probably been more spectacular of famous crashed but I need spectacular ones caught on camera.

Sure the 1984 Start line crash was BIG but it was just a bunch of cars running into each other (well three) and blocking the track.

Bargs HYL is close but not really that spectacular.

KB Camaro flip was not Ford or Holden so that's out.

How about one more guys to finish the list?

Can someone please help with a couple of years and round numbers?

1968 First lap Bathurst pile up that eventually eliminated half a third of the field

Bill Brown 71 Bathurst Roll over at the top of the mountain

Bathurst 1981 Pile up on top of the mountain that stopped the race early.

Johnson 1983 Hardies Hero's crash into the forest

Lowndes Calder park Roll over
What year? Round of the championships

Bargwanna Phillip Island crash that ended with a bit of argy bargy in the pits
What year? Round of the championships

Larkham and Morris at Oran Park start line fire ball.
What year? Round of the championships

Mazera Caltex Chase Barrell roll

John Clelland / Jason Plato Caltex Chase Bathurst 2004.



MAYBE ????
Bargs in the Young Lions car at Bathurst at Forest Elbow

1984 start line crash

wayno
15-03-2005, 05:40 PM
What about Brad Jones in the 2000 Clipsal 500? Spectacular and on video. I have the race on tape. Found it recently.

clubbie
15-03-2005, 07:07 PM
Yep, that's in had forgotten about that one. Year? round?

Crowey05
15-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Dunno if this counts but the prang with the Go-Kart on Brocky's head in Darwin was horrifying. I'm surprised he went to Bathurst the next year to start the Safari.

Crowey05
15-03-2005, 07:23 PM
day i meant not year.

a9x
16-03-2005, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by awawaw
when dick decided to go right instead of left on conrod my 14yo heart sank.
i don't think he had much choice in the matter :D

lukey73
16-03-2005, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by wayno
Close mate. Just turned 36, but blessed with a great memory when it comes to motor sport. Wish it had of applied to school.....

Mind you Wayno looks 50 !!!!!!!:D

lukey73
16-03-2005, 07:55 AM
What about Murph's Crash at Phillip Island in 97 when he hit the tyre bank coming onto the main straight and then gentley rolled the car, got out and fell to his knee's in pain.

That for me was a big one.

Luke

wayno
16-03-2005, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by lukey73
Mind you Wayno looks 50 !!!!!!!:D

Thanks mate. 50 stone maybe! :D

bigdave
16-03-2005, 06:17 PM
heres a list i can think of.

Bathurst 1981 Pileup
Johnson 1983 hardies heroes
Johnson 1980 Bathurst
Bill Brown 71 Bathurst
Lowndes Calder park
John bowe Phillip island 96
Lakeside fireball late 80's
Larkham Phillip island 1997
Bargs Pi 2002
Daily planet commodore that was turned into a hatchback at Phillip island (konikas i think)
Larko & P Morris Oran park

I know you said ford & holden but these come to mind

Bosnjak Amaroo PROCAR
Fitzgerald Amaroo in the peugeot (got massive air and erupted into flames after drilling a bank) Super tourers
D Auger in the Alfa at i think Phillip island he rolled several times. Super Tourers

Graeme O'Brien flipping his Falcon Sportmens div AUSCAR at the thunderdome into the world record books.

if you need pics / Vids of any of these i can supply a download for you to study.

KiwiRallyFan
17-03-2005, 02:01 PM
Nobody has mentioned the big crash towards the end of last years Clipsal 500 when Steven Johnson, Brad Jones and Mark Winterbottom ploughed into the sliding Cameron McConville, leaving bits of cars everywhere. Now that was a very spectacular crash.

wayno
17-03-2005, 03:13 PM
Hey clubbie, did you settle on your final list?

clubbie
17-03-2005, 03:31 PM
Not really top 10 but a TOP 12 taht needs to be cut- Not in any partcular order yet that will be worked down to
top 10.

Year: 1974
Location: Mt Panorma Bathurst
Car: Torana
Driver: McRae
Description: Torana aquaplaned off Conrod and ended up in the trees
after getting seriously airborne


Year: 1989
Location: Lakeside Queensland
Car: Mutiple accident
Drivers: Glen Seton, Andrew Miedecke, Graham Lusty
Description: Mutli car fireball at top of hill

Year: 1969
Location: Mt Panorma Bathurst
Car: Multiple - main combatants Ford XW GT and Holden Manaro GTS
Drivers Involved: Bill Brown and a third of the firld

Year: 1999
Location: Calder Park, Mebourne
Car: Holden Commodore VT
Driver: Craig Lowndes
Description:

Year: 2002
Location: Phillip Island
Car: Holden Commodore
Driver: Jason Bargwanna
Description:

Year: 2000
Location: Oran Park Raceway Sydney
Cars: Mulitple pile up
Driver: Mark Larkham, Larry Perkins, Paul Morris

Year:1997
Location:Mt Panorama Bathurst
Car: Commodore
Driver: Tomas Mazera



Year: 2000
Location: Adelaide Street Circuit
Car: Ford
Driver: Brad Jones


Year: 1971
Location: Mt Panorama Bathurst
Car: XY GHO
Driver: Bill Brown


Year: 1981
Location: Mt Panorama Bathurst
Car : Mulit car pile up
Driver: Christine Gibson, Bob Morris, Graham Moore, Kevin Bartlett

Year: 2004
Location: Mt Panorama Bathurst
Car: Ford Falcon BA and Holden Commodore
Drivers: John Clelland and Jason Plato

Year: 1983
Location: Mt Panorama Bathurst
Car: Ford Falcon XE
Driver: Dick Johnson
Description:


Big thanks to another board membre (not sure if he wants to be names) for his help so far.

Who has pix of any of the above to upload with the list so people can see what we are talking about.

ZORAK
17-03-2005, 04:14 PM
When are we going to start seeing the crash cars in 1:18? I would buy.

Z!

wayno
17-03-2005, 04:25 PM
Surprised Bartlett didn't make the list for the Channel "6" rollover! :D

clubbie
17-03-2005, 05:02 PM
Well we have decided to make it Ford / Holden with a V8 supercar theme - talking about the origins of V8 Supercars

AmonFan
17-03-2005, 05:16 PM
Just on the 1981 Bathurst crash, pretty sure Graham Moore wasnt involved. Those who were as mentioned were Bob Morris, Christine Gibson, Gary Rogers in Clive Benson Brownes Commodore, David Seldon in the Gary Rowe Gemini ZZ, The then current Australian Sports Sedan Champion Tony Edmondson in the Re Car Commodore, Kevin Bartlett. John Goss avoided the mallee with a high speed handbrake turn ;)......

clubbie
17-03-2005, 06:21 PM
Yes you are right, my mistake - that's why I need help with these things.

Footy
17-03-2005, 10:10 PM
2004 Round 11 Surfers Paradise,Jason Brights effort to move concrete walls,with a little help from Rick Kelly.

Mark H-M
18-03-2005, 03:22 AM
Worst 5 crashes:

Andy Rouse pranging the Sierra in the Dipper
Jason Plato pranging the Commodore (twice in the same lap!)
Allan Moffat pranging 05 in 1986
Barry Sheene pranging 05 Sierra at a test (Winton or Mallala?)
PB prnaging the Advantage racing commodore at Adelaide (just to show that I m unbiased and admit that PB does have the ocassional off day)

wayno
18-03-2005, 12:58 PM
The Sheene effort was at Winton I think and quite comprehensive!

Leigh
18-03-2005, 01:35 PM
I thought Bargwanna's aquaplane and consequent roll-over at Phillip Island in 2000-1 was a more spectacular accident than the 2002 start-line nudge by Murph...both destroyed the car, and both in almost the same spot!

And then there was the dual roll overs of Bowe and Lowndes at the Island...

wayno
18-03-2005, 02:59 PM
I didn't think Bargs went over when he aquaplaned off the straight at the Island.

clubbie
18-03-2005, 03:07 PM
Bargs went on its side.

lcfp it's a bit hard to get people interested in something when there are no qulaity photos to accompany the story.

The top 10 was compiled using a incidents from pix spread accross nearly 40 years.

wayno
18-03-2005, 03:12 PM
I have no photos of the accident but have a drivers side door off the car!

gab73
18-03-2005, 04:52 PM
dougal mcdougal phillip island rollover that barry sheene famously called a major saussage.same year as bargs aquaplane.

gricey's 87 vl commodore that win percy hit the wall in qualifying at bathurst

perkins symmons plain 93 rolling vl walkinshaw in qualifying

Ice Wgn
19-03-2005, 04:12 PM
Sure there has been some spectacular modern stacks, but if if you can get your hands on a DVD called "Classic Bathurst Crashes" you able witness some beauty's. Bill Browns famous roll-over, Roberts XW 67E fly off Skyline and Colin Bond does a pirouette at Reid Park.

Great Value Viewing.

wayno
19-03-2005, 04:28 PM
One I forget was Des English (?) in the Falcon knocking a big hole in the wall at the bottom of the esses.

clubbie
19-03-2005, 05:17 PM
THe one you are talking about was Jon English's car but his Co driver at the wheel at the time. Just dont know his name.

yeah that one almost got in.

GRPIII
19-03-2005, 07:32 PM
unsure of the driver but the daily planet vr commodore at philip island.

sad
14-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Excuse me for bringing up an old topic but i was wondering if anyone knows what Really caused the big pile up in 1981 i wasn't born til 6 years later in 1987 and have only seen the footage of the very end on DVD and the story i heard was that it was during and ad break or something and in those days they didn't film during ads.What i was wondering was does anyone know what caused it.Looks like a hell of a smash.I believe Fred gibsons missus was trying to overtake morris and he moved over and closed the gap and they spun and because that section was narrower than it is now the track became blocked,is that correct if anyone here knows.Hope this makes sense.

vikings100
14-07-2007, 05:20 PM
Murphy in HRT VS in 97 at PI, car came straight at us, we had to run for it.

Cheers Greg:)

AmonFan
14-07-2007, 05:32 PM
THe one you are talking about was Jon English's car but his Co driver at the wheel at the time. Just dont know his name.

yeah that one almost got in.

That would be the man who came 3rd in 1980, Paul Gulson, if my fading memory is correct :p more famous for having the "Worlds fastests Mini" and giving Brian Potts ex Thomson/Cary Torana V8 a real hard time at Surfers Paradise Sports Sedan round in 1980....

As for the 81 Great Race incident, Morris was catching an ailing Johnson XD (so the story goes) at a great rate of knots, went for a gap and crash bang.

trustme
14-07-2007, 05:35 PM
Not quite righht Amon Fan, but very close.

Year: 1981
Location: McPhillamy Park, Mt Panorama, Bathurst
Event: 1981 James Hardie 1000
Cars: Falcon XD (2), Commodore VC(2) Gemini ZZ, Chev Camaro
Drivers: Christine Gibson, Bob Morris, Garry Rogers, Tony Edmondson, David Seldon, Kevin Bartlett


Description: The 1981 top of the mountain pile up still remains the only accident to stop and declare the famous race early. Ironically this history making moment only has a handful of witnesses. At the time, millions of TV viewers were being treated to a channel 7 advert break, leaving the few hundred spectators lining the fence as the only witnesses to the amazing chain of events that unfolded.
Lap 120, and Christine Gibson (wife of Fred), driving the King George Tavern sponsored XD Falcon sets herself for the fast run through McPhillamy. At well in excess of 200 km/h, she turns the dark green Falcon toward the apex. At exactly the same moment a rapidly closing Bob Morris in his Breville sponsored Ford XD decides to do the same. The light green Morris car digs its nose into the side of the Gibson vehicle punting it down the road sideways, tyres bursting under the strain of the massive sideways friction. Morris, trying everything to avoid the pirouetting car in front, heads toward an ever decreasing gap, the gap vanishes and both heavily impact the outside safety fence rebounding back into the path of following traffic.
Garry Rogers in the purple sound waves Commodore and Tony Edmondson in the yellow and white Re-Car Commodore round the bend at full speed. Less than 100 meters in front of them two green Falcons are spinning out of control. Rogers slams into the back of the Gibson car and Edmondson follows him in, ricocheting off the back of the Rogers' vehicle and into the side of the Morris car, a fireball erupting from a ruptured fuel line.
For David Seldon the view through the windscreen of his Gemini must have seemed almost surreal. Four big V8s spinning wildly in front of him, bashing into each other, bursting into flames and leaving a trail of broken glass, fiberglass and shredded tyres in their wake. Seldon tries to squeeze past but the gap disappears wedging the Gemini between the wrecks and the concrete barrier completely blocking the track. Seldon jumps out to offer assistance only to be faced with Kevin Bartlett in the huge Channel 9 Camaro driving straight at him at full noise. Faced with a driver now standing where he was heading, Bartlett plants the big blue car into the back of the Gemini, jarring his reconstructed hip in the process.

Dingo
14-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Trans.: Two cars, one apex, not enough room.

AmonFan
14-07-2007, 06:07 PM
Trans.: Two cars, one apex, not enough room.

as in went for a gap, crash bang :p

some fella once said if you no longer go for a gap, you are no longer a racing driver, some brazilian gun karter, mighta won a few Worlds Champs along the way ;).

Incidently some of the race reports at the time said a similar thing of Morris....

CowboyMatt
14-07-2007, 06:08 PM
Bill Brown 71 Bathurst Roll over at the top of the mountain




Bill Brown's crash was '69.

One I remember because I was there was Colin Bond at Amaroo Park in '76. He was shunted by Grice going over the hill at the start and was left stranded, where he was then hit by Skelton and Barry Seton.

There was also Wayne Negus at Sandown in the Hang Ten in '75(?) - the car went through a fence and ended up in a creek.

I also have a vague memory of a Falcon in the wet at Lakeside(?) in the 80's - no idea who was driving but the car rolled up in the air and flipped over in the rain, coming to rest with a huge splash.

Also Johnson at Bathurst in qualifying and Bond again in the '72 race where he aquaplaned in the wet and rolled down an embankment when he was leading the race.

beast
14-07-2007, 06:16 PM
Bill Brown's crash was '69.


Bill Brown had too big prangs on the top of the mountain. He was the car that rolled on Lap 1 in 1969 (car no.55 as far as i know) and the famous McPhillamy Park crash of 1971 where his seat broke in the prang. Both prang were rollovers hence the reason why his name was upside down on the Capri that he and his wife Sue Ransom shared in 1977 or 1978.

CowboyMatt
14-07-2007, 06:20 PM
Bill Brown had too big prangs on the top of the mountain. He was the car that rolled on Lap 1 in 1969 (car no.55 as far as i know) and the famous McPhillamy Park crash of 1971 where his seat broke in the prang. Both prang were rollovers hence the reason why his name was upside down on the Capri that he and his wife Sue Ransom shared in 1977 or 1978.


Yes I forgot he had two - in '69 he was stationery at the top of the mountain - and I remember reading one of the drivers who crashed out was John French who was assisted from his car by a young Dick Johnson.

beast
14-07-2007, 06:25 PM
Yes I forgot he had two - in '69 he was stationery at the top of the mountain - and I remember reading one of the drivers who crashed out was John French who was assisted from his car by a young Dick Johnson.

And who then would have thought that Dick and John would have shared a Bathurst victory 12 years later.

Designer
14-07-2007, 06:37 PM
That one was 1997 from memory. I was sitting right on the fence about 50 meters from where the car impacted the bank. Didn't look that spectacular but it made a hell of a thump when it hit the bank.


Yep 97'
Remember it like yesterday....

It was my first full livery for HRT and I loved Murph at the time, plus it was Brock's last year {suppposedly:rolleyes:}
I watched every race on telli that year just to see the HRT's cars...

I remember vividly seeing Murphy roll the 15 car at turn 12 and thinking to myself, hmmm, the roof looks a bit dull, must improve that next year....:D

That's why I wish Biante would released the 15 car as well as the 05 Brock car later this year....

beast
14-07-2007, 06:53 PM
Im gonna put my Top 10 prangs down. (in no particular order)

1. 1969 Lap 1 pileup
2. 1981 McPhillamy pileup
3. 1983 Dick Johnsons Falcon sized Lithgow shortcut
4. 1972 Fred Gibson Skyline Rollover
5. 2004 Cleland and Plato accident
6. 1997 Mezera Rollover
7. 1980 Dick Jonson Rock
8. 1974 Rod McRae prang
9. 1986 Allan Moffat at Mcphillamy
10. 1987 Win Percy at Mcphillamy

sad
14-07-2007, 07:16 PM
Im gonna put my Top 10 prangs down. (in no particular order)

1. 1969 Lap 1 pileup
2. 1981 McPhillamy pileup
3. 1983 Dick Johnsons Falcon sized Lithgow shortcut
4. 1972 Fred Gibson Skyline Rollover
5. 2004 Cleland and Plato accident
6. 1997 Mezera Rollover
7. 1980 Dick Jonson Rock
8. 1974 Rod McRae prang
9. 1986 Allan Moffat at Mcphillamy
10. 1987 Win Percy at Mcphillamy


with the 1975 McRae one is that the one where the guy aquaplaned apparently off conrod into a tree in a torana? if it is that looked huge on the dvd i have.

beast
14-07-2007, 07:24 PM
with the 1975 McRae one is that the one where the guy aquaplaned apparently off conrod into a tree in a torana? if it is that looked huge on the dvd i have.

does the dvd u have show the car actually going off the road.
ive never actually seen the crash itself, but the state of the car afterwards showed it was a big incident

phantom
14-07-2007, 07:40 PM
What about Jason Richards massive roll over at Queensland Raceway? I think it was in 2005.

beast
14-07-2007, 09:42 PM
What about Jason Richards massive roll over at Queensland Raceway? I think it was in 2005.

Arent i an idiot. and i call myself a Tasman supporter.
Completely forgot about that one

FPR FAN
15-07-2007, 07:40 AM
Larkham and Morris at ... Oran Park was it???

That was a big one and Paul Morris still has back problems today from the Fire Extinguisher hitting the back of his seat.

fordmad17
15-07-2007, 07:52 AM
I was at Surfers in 1984 also, you can see some of my pics here

http://www.members.tripod.com/motorsportarchive1/1980s_page_1.htm

Glenn

Which grandstand were you in I must have been sitting next to u. I remember Moffat I think hit a tree stump and Harvey hit the tyre wall just past the Dunlop bridge. Also I remember as the same spot in a sports sedan race a huge one with Tony Edmondson in the Alfetta launching off Phil Wards Monaro and John Briggs Monza hit the underside of the dunlop bridge and burst into flames. We all didn't think that Tony would survive that one but he did with a few burns. Biggest one I've seen live though.

fordmad17
15-07-2007, 07:59 AM
Also In a Formula 5000 race Warwick Brown launching over the bank after the dunlop bridge at Surfers when his throtle jammed on and nearly ending up on the Nerang/Broadbeach Road, the only thing that stopped him was a small pond of water about 20 meters from the road. Boy did he get some air though and I will alway remember them bring the car out piece by piece

sad
15-07-2007, 08:09 AM
does the dvd u have show the car actually going off the road.
ive never actually seen the crash itself, but the state of the car afterwards showed it was a big incident

oh i meant 74 btw and no it only shows the aftermath of a rather bent looking torana halfway up a tree.

BEECEE
15-07-2007, 08:31 AM
Talking about age, I was fortuante,or maybe unfortuante,to witness the accident that claimed the life of the late Lex Davison at Sandown and later on, not sure of the years for obvious reasons, but also watched the late great Jim Clark in his last race at Longford before he was killed.I think he actually won that race, not 100% sure though.

sad
15-07-2007, 09:50 AM
I have another question
was it ever proven how the rock came to be on the track at bathurst in 1980
because i found a video of the first 10 minutes of that race on youtube and some guy commented about how someone should throw a boulder at whoever tried to kill dick johnson.I thought i heard somewhere it broke off and fell off the hill by itself,anyone have any idea?.I also thought i read somewhere Brock hit it too but he got away with it so to speak.

AmonFan
15-07-2007, 09:59 AM
I have another question
was it ever proven how the rock came to be on the track at bathurst in 1980
because i found a video of the first 10 minutes of that race on youtube and some guy commented about how someone should throw a boulder at whoever tried to kill dick johnson.I thought i heard somewhere it broke off and fell off the hill by itself,anyone have any idea?.I also thought i read somewhere Brock hit it too but he got away with it so to speak.

Sad, Brock apparently hit it, damaged his tank. Brock had also tripped over one of the CDT Gemini's whick made life a little uncomfy at the time as there would be a court case between the two over the CDT Logo's.... I think initially Terry Daly clobbered the rock.. one of the under 3 litre cars anyway.

sad
15-07-2007, 10:04 AM
Sad, Brock apparently hit it, damaged his tank. Brock had also tripped over one of the CDT Gemini's whick made life a little uncomfy at the time as there would be a court case between the two over the CDT Logo's.... I think initially Terry Daly clobbered the rock.. one of the under 3 litre cars anyway.

thats what i thought
Just this bloke seemed convinced it was an anti-ford anti-dick johnson conspiracy.Seems funny in an odd sort of way if it was a holden fan that put it there.I mean having one of their on blokes hit it too.

AmonFan
15-07-2007, 10:15 AM
thats what i thought
Just this bloke seemed convinced it was an anti-ford anti-dick johnson conspiracy.Seems funny in an odd sort of way if it was a holden fan that put it there.I mean having one of their on blokes hit it too.

There were lots of stories of even Marshalls saying they witnessed the rock being pushed by a spectator. Iirc Bob Morris near on hit the quick lift truck Johnson's car was being loaded up on. Ironically one of the contributors to Johnson crash was because as he swept thru the cutting and into Reid Park he was confronted by a Quick Lift hugging the left side of the track.....

sad
15-07-2007, 10:25 AM
There were lots of stories of even Marshalls saying they witnessed the rock being pushed by a spectator. Iirc Bob Morris near on hit the quick lift truck Johnson's car was being loaded up on. Ironically one of the contributors to Johnson crash was because as he swept thru the cutting and into Reid Park he was confronted by a Quick Lift hugging the left side of the track.....


yep i reckon if morris hadn't swerved as quickly as he did he'd have hit the wreck of johnson's car or the truck.IIRC from the footage i have seen as i wasn't born for another 7 years, the truck that johnson was trying to avoid was carrying a RX-7 or something.

lukey73
15-07-2007, 06:52 PM
Having walked around Catalina Park i would have to say Bob Jane's accident in his Mustang, i have seen pics of it rolling along the fence and i am surprised he got away with it. No Roll Cage not much in the way of personal protection and a wooden fence with wire rope behind all speels for a nasty accident in my book.

Here are 2 pics.

Rolling (http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/item-219public.html?cache=no)

Aftermarth (http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/item-2953public.html?cache=no)

moxo
15-07-2007, 07:26 PM
Bill Brown had too big prangs on the top of the mountain. He was the car that rolled on Lap 1 in 1969 (car no.55 as far as i know) and the famous McPhillamy Park crash of 1971 where his seat broke in the prang. Both prang were rollovers hence the reason why his name was upside down on the Capri that he and his wife Sue Ransom shared in 1977 or 1978.

Make that three.

1969 and 1971 in Falcons and 1972 in a Torana. The Torana one was in the wet - he understeered up the bank at Skyline (from memory) and has he got out of the car, here came Fred Gibson rolling along the road towards him.

Remember that Bill held the top speed record on Con Rod for many years, in a Ferrari 330P4. Brave bloke. Good enough driver to be selected to join David McKay's Scuderia Veloce.


Moxo

trustme
15-07-2007, 08:31 PM
Year: 2000
Location: Oran Park Raceway, Sydney
Event: V8 Supercars Round 9, Race 3
Car: Ford Falcon AU, Holden Commodore VT x 2
Driver: Mark Larkham, Larry Perkins, Paul Morris

Description: The start of a race is the most worrying time for any race driver. The entire field is bunched together, and from a standing start are let lose in a mad scramble to the first corner. Potential for disaster is at its greatest, and a stalled car can create massive drama. One of the most famous Australian start line accidents occurred at Bathurst in 1984, when the Walkinshaw / Goss Jaguar was rammed from behind moments after the start. The ensuing chain reaction completely blocked the track and caused the only race restart in the events 40-year history.

At the 2000, Oran Park V8 Supercar round, it only took a few seconds for a drivers two biggest fears to become a reality, a stalled car on the grid and fire!
As the lights flashed green Larry Perkins dumped the clutch of his Castrol VT Commodore, the car lurched forward and then stopped dead. A few rows back Paul Morris in the Big Kev VT Commodore had a cracker of a start and was accelerating hard when he was suddenly faced with a car directly in his path. With no where to go, Morris plowed hard into the back of the Perkins car punting it off the circuit and away from the carnage about to follow. Morris however, was now a sitting duck, stranded in the middle of the track.

From the back rows of the grid, Mitre 10 Ford driver Mark Larkham, more accustomed to being out in front, was hard on the gas and already looking for a way past the slower cars. Travelling at an estimated 170kmh, the car in front suddenly darted right unveiling the stricken Morris car to Larkham who didn’t even have enough time to release his foot from the accelerator. At unabated speed Larkham slammed flush into the back of Morris, the blue Ford bursting into flames on impact. The Morris car slued down the track, fuel gushing from a ruptured tank. The fire from the Larkham car ignited the trail of fuel like a giant wick, the river of flame catching up with Morris just as his car came to a holt engulfing it in a ball of fire.

Marshals rushed to the scene extinguishing the fire and pulling a dazed Morris from the burning wreckage while Larkham freed himself. The tremendous forces generated by the impact had ripped Morris’ fire extinguisher from its mounting turning it into a lethal missile. It punched a hole through the back of the Morris’ seat. Inflicting extensive bruising, an injury that would plague Morris for years.

ferrari fan
16-07-2007, 10:22 AM
A very sad one to me was the Denny Hulme Final ride at Bathurst.

beast
16-07-2007, 12:37 PM
Another very serious and sad accident would have to be the Mike Burgmann crash at Bathurst in 86.

sphinx84
21-07-2007, 02:12 PM
one the biggest i saw was the lowndes rollover in the vt in 97. that was one of the biggest i have seen.

fordmad17
21-07-2007, 04:28 PM
one the biggest i saw was the lowndes rollover in the vt in 97. that was one of the biggest i have seen.

Wasn't Lowndes Crash at calder in 1999

AmonFan
21-07-2007, 04:55 PM
Wasn't Lowndes Crash at calder in 1999

Sure was mate, and on the Saturday we had Justin Cotter have his huge crash in an even more dramatic way....

wayno
21-07-2007, 05:17 PM
I saw both of those and the Cotter crash was much more dramatic in my eyes.

malscar
21-07-2007, 05:38 PM
Must admit that it was interesting watching him launch off the crossover ripple strip. We had to tie the car to a vehicle up top before getting him out of the car.

AmonFan
21-07-2007, 05:44 PM
Was a wicked crash, my bro was in that race, cant recall where he was in relation to that crash though....

sphinx84
21-07-2007, 06:20 PM
my bad too many winters have passed since then.

jar jar binks
24-07-2007, 04:21 PM
Has anyone mentioned the crash at Bathurst in 84 (i think). At the start of the race i think it was Tom Walkinshaw in a Jag stalled the start and i was cleaned up which created a pile up. Also at the front of the field, Moffat in an Rx7 was tapped up onto the side fence The race was restarted.

NO.5HDT
25-07-2007, 05:03 AM
John Keran in his LC GTR XU-1 at the top of the Mount in 1971? was a biggie

AmonFan
25-07-2007, 06:53 AM
John Keran in his LC GTR XU-1 at the top of the Mount in 1971? was a biggie

Was that @ McPhillamy? memory is fading but i think John was a gun rally driver at the time, might have been 1970. Gary Leggatt's crash in 82 at a similar place was very nasty, sadly like John he never raced again....

sad
25-07-2007, 08:19 AM
hi guys i believe i found the answer to what happened in 1980

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oh and it kinda shows the result of the hitting of the rock.IE Hitting the wall
watch closely,Found it on youtube from a channel 7 "flashbacks feature appears to be from brisbane,I realise it starts in 1981 but thats only background stuff really.

sad
25-07-2007, 08:44 AM
forgot to mention in my previous post apparently someone rung DJ and told him that two drunk blokes accidentally kicked the thing off the hill.Thus it ended up on the track.

barnart
27-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Another very serious and sad accident would have to be the Mike Burgmann crash at Bathurst in 86.

I was there that year and up on the hill we didn't know about the crash untill I called my wife and she told me.

Brock 05
27-08-2007, 10:15 PM
Skaife rollover at GP support race at Adelaide in the Nissan GTR. 1990 I think it was.

beast
28-08-2007, 12:13 PM
Skaife rollover at GP support race at Adelaide in the Nissan GTR. 1990 I think it was.

Yep, 1990 it was, all channel 9 showed was Skaife bouncing over the kerb sending the car up on two wheels, disappearing out of sight with the camera angle used then coming back into frame a second later on its roof and skidded back onto the track

malscar
28-08-2007, 06:20 PM
Skaife actually hit the end of the concrete block wall with the underside of the car and bounced back towards the track on his roof. The blocks actually whipped back and forth and it was lucky the marshalls at the flag point were not hurt.

stephenhrt
28-08-2007, 08:42 PM
Skaife also had that big one at Eastern Creek in 1995, I think. From memory that was even more serious than the GP

beast
28-08-2007, 11:02 PM
Skaife also had that big one at Eastern Creek in 1995, I think. From memory that was even more serious than the GP

Wasnt it at the Triple Challenge. Turn 1 i think it was.

Mark Wicks
28-08-2007, 11:22 PM
Skaife also had that big one at Eastern Creek in 1995, I think. From memory that was even more serious than the GP

Yes, much more serious - trapped unconscious with a ruptured fuel tank. There was a pic in MNews' recent 'Gibson Scrapbooking' story. The car was f****d and i believe Skaife has no recollection of the prang.

sad
31-08-2007, 09:35 AM
Yes, much more serious - trapped unconscious with a ruptured fuel tank. There was a pic in MNews' recent 'Gibson Scrapbooking' story. The car was f****d and i believe Skaife has no recollection of the prang.



holy heck that is more serious!!!

sad
31-08-2007, 11:08 AM
anyone see the interview with fred gibson in the latest AMC where he mentions the '92 bathurst as he ran the nissan team.He said richo radioed in saying he'd hit the wall and damaged the wheel.Gibbo replied something like "richo i'm watching on tv you've damaged the suspension! or something like that.someone correct me if i'm wrong.