Clipsal 500

[BIGD67]

the season proper is about to start
is any one going
have you got your finishline choices in
and who's going to win round one

[BIGD67]

sorry i mean clipsal

[Kenseth17]

I wish I was going but alas I have to work.Taping and watching it for me.
My pick is Ambrose to win.I think HRT will be up there again and Ingall and Lowndes to possibly squeeze a win or podium.

[BB]

Yep.
Pit Straight
BlockAA
section A
row Z
seat 8
aaand loving it!

[wayno]

Grand Prix ruled out the Clipsal for me again this year. Am working Saturday and taking the kids to Avalon Airshow on Sunday so will have to watch the race after each on tape.
Will have to make sure I avoid the forum so I can enjoy the races.

[daggy]

A pic from the historic museum. Hope it works!

[clubbie]

Photo here

http://www.shoalhaven.net.au/~nubtwo/mmstuffpix/ma x.jpg

LIONS ROAR WILL BE MUSIC TO MAXS’ EARS

Brazilian V8 Supercar driver Max Wilson has been secured to drive the Longhurst Racing’s Holden Commodore car 45 at this year’s V8 Supercars opening round Adelaide’s Clipsal 500.

An elated Wilson said – “I am very excited with the offer from Tony, we first met at Briggs Motorsport back in my introductory year to the V8’s in 2002 and we have remained friends ever since.

“This will be an exciting weekend not only for me as a driver, but also for the new ‘WOW Sight & Sound’ sponsored team, I’m very much looking forward to getting behind the wheel of the Holden Commodore and the team have done a great job on the cars preparation�.

“This is a very demanding race across two days and requires total concentration as well as pace for the duration of each of the two races, hopefully the temperature on the weekend will be a little kinder to us this year�.

“Although I haven’t driven the car before, I will have both practice sessions and qualifying tomorrow in which to settle into the car and I really don’t have any problem with changing makes as a professional driver�.

Tony Longhurst was equally optimistic, “saying it’s great to have Max on board for this race, he has shown he has the speed when required and he certainly qualifies very well, we just need to convert his efforts into a podium finish on the day�.

“The car is superb, and with our new sponsors “WOW Sight & Sound on board everything is looking very promising for this opening round� said Longhurst.

[Leigh]

First practice results are up here (http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/results.cgi?20/03/2005.ADEL.P13).

Max has done pretty well in the Longhurst car, although less than a second covers the top 21...

1 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 5000 17 17 1:23.2738*
2 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 5000 14 13 1:23.3604 0:00.0866
3 11 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 5000 17 10 1:23.3897 0:00.1159
4 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 5000 15 10 1:23.4009 0:00.1271
5 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 5000 16 16 1:23.4162 0:00.1424
6 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 5000 15 15 1:23.5395 0:00.2657
7 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ 5000 13 10 1:23.5517 0:00.2779
8 12 Team BOC John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 5000 18 17 1:23.6640 0:00.3902
9 17 Westpoint Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 5000 18 10 1:23.7020 0:00.4282
10 45 WOW Sight & Sound Max Wilson Holden Commodore VZ 5000 18 18 1:23.8588 0:00.5850

[V8SS]

Go the Rat:D Excellent first practice time.

[biante11500]

you guys are so lucky & i envy you all. the clipsal 500 & bathurst
are my two favorite tracks of all. to actually get to go to either race would be a dream come true for me. all we get here in the usa is a hour long codensed version of the clipsal race with commercials so probably about 35 minutes of actual coverage &
that is a disgrace. i guess if your into nascar this is the place to be. but if your a v8supercar fan living in the states, you might as well be living on the moon. i think it will come down to a fight between hrt & sbr for first place at the clipsal 500. but i hope craig lowndes can put out a good effort with his new betta electrical falcon. its hard to beat ambrose & skaife at adelaide though. i just hope its a great race as usual. cheers Tony:D

[timbo333]

Some great times in there.

The usual suspects are there but also excellent to see S.Johnson do well in 1st practice plus M.Wilson in the top 10. Seems to have got to grips with the Holden OK.

Still want Ambrose to win though........:p


Cheers,

Timbo.

[Leigh]

Originally posted by biante11500
you guys are so lucky & i envy you all. the clipsal 500 & bathurst
are my two favorite tracks of all. to actually get to go to either race would be a dream come true for me. all we get here in the usa is a hour long codensed version of the clipsal race with commercials so probably about 35 minutes of actual coverage &
that is a disgrace. i guess if your into nascar this is the place to be. but if your a v8supercar fan living in the states, you might as well be living on the moon. i think it will come down to a fight between hrt & sbr for first place at the clipsal 500. but i hope craig lowndes can put out a good effort with his new betta electrical falcon. its hard to beat ambrose & skaife at adelaide though. i just hope its a great race as usual. cheers Tony:D
Telstra Bigpond (http://v8supercar.bigpond.com/flash/V8_2005_promo .html#) do a live feed for their broadband customers only, but there was talk some time ago of them offering the service for people outside of Australia (for a fee), but I never kept up with the debate...you may wish to follow this up...

[brchi17]

1 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 1:22.4336
2 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 1:22.4740
3 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 1:22.5369
4 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ 1:22.7576
5 51 Super Cheap Auto Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ 1:22.8516
6 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 1:22.9486
7 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 1:22.9869
8 11 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 1:23.0736
9 17 Westpoint Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 1:23.1626
10 12 Team BOC John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 1:23.1785
11 88 Team Betta Electrical Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 1:23.3576
12 21 Team BOC Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 1:23.4204
13 67 Sirromet - Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VZ 1:23.4308
14 24 Team Perkins Racing Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VY 1:23.4428
15 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 1:23.4581
16 33 Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VZ
17 50 Paul Weel Holden Commodore VZ
18 10 Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA
19 Garth Tander Holden Commodore VZ
20 20 Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA
21 18 Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA
22 44 Simon Wills Holden Commodore VZ
23 3 Jason Richards Holden Commodore VY
24 22 Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ
25 23 Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VY
26 7 Alex Davison Holden Commodore VY
27 48 David Besnard Ford Falcon BA
28 5 Greg Ritter Ford Falcon BA
29 34 Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VZ
30 75 Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY
31 45 Max Wilson Holden Commodore VZ
32 8 Craig Baird Ford Falcon BA
33 25 Steve Owen Ford Falcon BA
34 52 Matthew White Ford Falcon BA

[wayno]

Originally posted by biante11500
you guys are so lucky & i envy you all. the clipsal 500 & bathurst
are my two favorite tracks of all. to actually get to go to either race would be a dream come true for me. all we get here in the usa is a hour long codensed version of the clipsal race with commercials so probably about 35 minutes of actual coverage &
that is a disgrace. i guess if your into nascar this is the place to be. but if your a v8supercar fan living in the states, you might as well be living on the moon. i think it will come down to a fight between hrt & sbr for first place at the clipsal 500. but i hope craig lowndes can put out a good effort with his new betta electrical falcon. its hard to beat ambrose & skaife at adelaide though. i just hope its a great race as usual. cheers Tony:D

Why not just get someone out here to tape the races for you and send you a copy? We're a pretty obliging bunch here on the forum!
PM me if interested.

[brchi17]

1 1 Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA
2 021 Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ
3 88 Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA
4 888 Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA
5 6 Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA
6 15 Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ
7 11 Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY
8 51 Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ
9 9 Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA
10 2 Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ

[Kiwiracing]

Originally posted by brchi17
1 1 Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA
2 021 Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ
3 88 Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA
4 888 Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA
5 6 Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA
6 15 Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ
7 11 Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY
8 51 Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ
9 9 Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA
10 2 Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ

Go the Rat!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers
Kiwiracing

[Kiwiracing]

Douh

Where's position 10????

1 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:22.9438
2 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:23.0490 0:00.1052
3 88 Team Betta Electrical Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:23.1918 0:00.2480
4 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:23.2425 0:00.2987
5 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:23.4423 0:00.4985
6 51 Super Cheap Auto Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:23.4958 0:00.5520
7 11 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 1 1 1:23.5888 0:00.6450
8 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 1 1 1:23.7449 0:00.8011
9 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 1 1 1:24.0786 0:01.1348

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Cheers
Kiwiracing

[no1holdenfan]

but it is Mark Skaife

[castkrazy]

My Mrs phoned & told me that skaife had an incident off the hairpin just past pit entry causing damage to the car and Hence will start in 10th position as the car couldn't participate in the top 10 shootout , if they gave prizes for the driver with the most consistant bad luck I'm sure he'd be a winner .

She's got a Gold seat at the pit entry so it happened right in front of her , and I wasn't there . :(

She just rang again with the top ten-

1) R. Kelly
2)Ambrose
3)Ellery
4)Ingall
5)Bright
6)Murphy
7)Richards
8)Lowndes
9)Radisich
10) Skaife

[castkrazy]

Sorry Kiwiracing , I,m a slow typer and was otherwise occupied and unaware of your post , didn't mean to repeat your top 10 .:rolleyes:


Cheers

Jim .

[brchi17]

It will be good to watch Skaife come through the pack, as he's done in the past (did I just say that I'm a Ford supporter :eek: ) !!!

With Crash Bandicoot on pole admin should be one very happy sponsor !!!

cheers. :)

[SUPERcarMAN]

What's the Rat doing in the top ten, that must be a mistake.
Just kidding, good on him and the Team Kiwi boys they must be pretty happy.
They might have there stuff together this year with the new VZ.
But the race itself is still to come and anything can happen.

[wayno]

Good on ya Rick! Glad to see someone fighting the Ford hordes for the good guys! I wouldn't say Skaife had bad luck. It's usually his own stuff ups, or has been over the last year or so.

[timbo333]

I think its great to see Lowndes and Radisich in the top 10.

SBR cars are strong once again. Well done to them.

Looking forward to the weekends action.....:cool:

Cheers,

Timbo.

[wayno]

I think the effort of Ellery deserves some praise. I must admit I quite like this guy and think he'll give Lowndes a real run for his money at 888.

[Holden2003]

Good on rick and HSV dealer team. Its a good start to the season, particularly that this team always seem to do better at the end of the year then at the start. Lets hope that they can fix their gremlins @ certain tracks (ie Eastern Creek) and put Rick and Garth as players for the championship. Wonder if Kmart are regretting or going to regret not sponsoring this team.

[BB]

A couple of pics from day 2 on the track and off.

[BB]

again

[BB]

2 more

[BB]

last one for now. Ive got more from the off field exhibition. If you want more info email me.

[Mux]

Mark Skaife clipped a kerb at Turn 12 on the fourth lap of Qualifying and broke the steering on the left side of his car, veering side-on into the fence. The impact broke the rear axle housing, the front suspension and damaged panels down the car’s left side. The damage rendered him unable to participate in the Top 10 Shootout.

Mark Skaife:

“I clipped the kerb and suddenly found I had no steering in the left-hand side of the car. I’ve hit those tyres, or other bundles of tyres, a lot harder over the years and never had a problem so I didn’t even register in my brain to back off. I would have backed off if I knew what was going to happen! When you’re trying that hard you’re looking for every millimetre in the road. It was my mistake to start with but you don’t expect for that to happen.


Pretty unfortunate for him, however i think it was a pretty good effort to still make the top ten while only posting 4 laps, no one could knock him out of there with another 20+ minutes of qualifying. Tomorrow will be a very interesting race, i'm sure!

[john]

Too bad K-Mart pulled the plug on R.Kelly considering he is on pole for race one. Murph in sixth spot as well & should pass Brights FPR car by lap 6.

Should be a great weekend of racing.

[crispy crunchy]

ford ford ford
ambrose ingall lowndes
awsome awsome awsome
:D

[VXfan]

oh my god it's 2004 all over again.Will this nightmare ever end?:(

[james]

And your point is ????????its only the first round plenty of time yet

[crispy crunchy]

my point is...im happy happy happy

[james]

Originally posted by crispy crunchy
my point is...im happy happy happy Well i surpose you must get in early as that amount of luck will run out.One can only hope that it is sooner rather than later.

[VXfan]

Even a one-eyed hrt supporter like me knows it wasnt luck James.What is going on in the Holden camp? They seem to have no idea of tactics!absolute shocker today,not happy at all:mad:

[Esses]

Originally posted by james
Well i surpose you must get in early as that amount of luck will run out.One can only hope that it is sooner rather than later.

Cool down, James. I think that there's a fair bit more than "luck" involved. You did register that the Lowndes 888 car has an SBR engine in it, too? Nice to see DJR back up there, though young Kelly has probably "rubbed" Seto up the wrong way.:)

[Esses]

Originally posted by VXfan
Even a one-eyed hrt supporter like me knows it wasnt luck James.What is going on in the Holden camp? They seem to have no idea of tactics!absolute shocker today,not happy at all:mad:

Whilst on the subject of HRT, WHEN are they going to heavy HSV out've that paint-job? JEEZ, but that was confusing. I tried looking for numbers but that didn't work so ended up looking for those black streaks on the HSV cars.

[james]

Originally posted by Steve
Cool down, James. I think that there's a fair bit more than "luck" involved. You did register that the Lowndes 888 car has an SBR engine in it, too? Nice to see DJR back up there, though young Kelly has probably "rubbed" Seto up the wrong way.:) Whats to COOL down ,if you were watching it was not young Kelly but older Kelly.As for the cool down i did not know that i was hot, you may when you know me better tell me to cool down,i did know that CL's car was powered by a SBR unit ,as are the Orcon cars. the luck bit was in relation to the fuel situation that was made by Crompton and co without the many yellow lights they may have had to "splash and dash" also unlucky were the Kelly brothers who pitted 2 laps before a yellow this cost them a lot of track position IMHO.:D

[crispy crunchy]

its all fun.....gotta love the old blue/red rivalry
ive just rang two of my holden friends to hang it on them ,but dont worry i get plenty back:p

[Esses]

Originally posted by james
Whats to COOL down ,if you were watching it was not young Kelly but older Kelly.As for the cool down i did not know that i was hot, you may when you know me better tell me to cool down,i did know that CL's car was powered by a SBR unit ,as are the Orcon cars. the luck bit was in relation to the fuel situation that was made by Crompton and co without the many yellow lights they may have had to "splash and dash" also unlucky were the Kelly brothers who pitted 2 laps before a yellow this cost them a lot of track position IMHO.:D

From the tone of your post, James, you do need to cool down. I did see the race, all of it. My reference to "young Kelly" was in comparison to Seton, twice ATCC Champion & certainly a veteran these days. If YOU were watching & listening you'd know that the SBR fuel situation was quite deliberate, they really only needed one more yellow flag to make it through to the end, something you're almost guaranteed on a concrete canyon like Adelaide. The Kelly Gang's situation, on the other hand, was POOR tactics. THEY were also banking on a Yellow, but jumped the gun somewhat.:)

[wayno]

Agree the Kelly situation didn't work out for them. In their defence I think it was worth the risk. They had to try something different as Marcus just had so much pace on the rest of the field it wasn't funny. If they stayed on the same strategy they didn't have a hope anyway.
SBR picked up where they left off and congratulations to them. The other teams have something to aim for now, and the bar is very high.

[Esses]

I think that Ingall's raised his game, too. He was really flying today, but Ambrose is just SO fast.

[awawaw]

thought Seton did a great job defending Kelly at the end but couldnt keep him out. alot of other drivers wouldnt have lasted that long with a car/driver going half a second quicker.

[xtreem2001]

It's getting to be a bore with the 2 team monopoly. Nascars have gone down the same path where the top cars are owned by basically 2 owners. I really dont want to see V8's going the same way. Surely their are other engine builders who can compete with Stone Brothers.
I reckon all Holdens should be painted in the one colour. Might confuse the officials and give us a chance. Skaife could have jumped into the Rats car and been competitive. I think it was a huge mistake for Skaife to get involved in ownership of teams, as
it has really affected his driving ability. Too many other issues to deal with and the team always seems to be under pressure.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by VXfan
Even a one-eyed hrt supporter like me knows it wasnt luck James.What is going on in the Holden camp? They seem to have no idea of tactics!absolute shocker today,not happy at all:mad:

Sorry to bring it up ,but I found the appearance of a certain ex ARROWS MD a wee bit offputting.
I understand that he has had some say in the team due to share ownership or whatever, but the ownership farce with Skaife was the direct result of this fallout in F1 ARROWS.
To see Tom again popping up in the limelight and still being able to dictate the goings on is a suprice to me.
I for one do not think that it is a marketing plus to have Tom Walkingshaw at the forefront. Tom made a meal in F1 and was ripped by an African conman,(Time - minus) which started the downfall, maybe he is, still, not back to his better days with Jaguar Silk Cut
But that is just me.

[Graeme]

Hello there Bert,

We may not always see him, but Walkinshaw is now going to have a bigger slice of what's going on in Holden racing. I read in AA that he was apparently in Oz to finalise his taking over management of Holden Motorsport and to also buy a 49 percent equity in HRT from Mark Skaife. I haven't read anything on just what say he will have at Kelly Motorsport, but given that entity is now the HSV Dealer Team, one could surmise a fair say there too.

As for today's Clipsal, my vote goes to Seto for great blocking on the Toddster - reminds me of the weekday morning drive to work down Tonkin Hwy.

[wayno]

Old Tom isn't my favourite person either but I can't argue with the fact that when he got out of HRT they stopped winning. The guy has had more successes than failures in motorsport and he isn't afraid to make tough decisions.
If he can help bump the red barons back up to the top then I'm all for it. Skaife has to relinquish control as it's made him look like a goose since he's had it.

[ferrari fan]

Poor M. Skaife , Maybe he has suffered from nosegrowth ala Pinoccio.
Could be related to all the boardroom dealings.
Maybe he has now trouble glancing past it uninterupted, to line up the frontwheels with the apex point.
I believe that noses will not shrink without surgecal intervention.
"Cut of your nose to save your (racing) life"! :p

[Graeme]

Musings :

Skaife - big nose, big ego.
Walkinshaw - short man syndrome.

The right combination ??

We'll see, but I think the SBR / 888 combo looks promising.

[inter]

will t kelly cop a penalty on his tapping of setos car?


inter

[wayno]

Originally posted by Graeme
Musings :

Skaife - big nose, big ego.
Walkinshaw - short man syndrome.

The right combination ??

We'll see, but I think the SBR / 888 combo looks promising.

Will AVESCO pull these guys up like they did with the Holden boys?

[brchi17]

Originally posted by Steve
.....Nice to see DJR back up there, though young Kelly has probably "rubbed" Seto up the wrong way.

I agree it was great to see two DJR cars back in the top ten at the end of a race :D !!!

I must admit I was a little disappointed in the way Todd was continually hitting the back of car 18 in an attempt to push him off course – Any clown can push another car out the way, but it takes skill to actually do a clean pass.

Also it was interesting to note that when Todd actually tried to pass Seton cleanly that he was able to get past him.

I know they say rubbing is racing, but as a spectator watching the race I was surprised he wasn’t given the meat ball flag for his driving conduct.

cheers. :)

[Graeme]

Well, at least we're not one of the HSV boys who will working late tonight patching up Todd's mess !!

Maybe it was worth the television exposure - it was great to watch, regardless of anything else.

[VXfan]

Let's be honest,the Kelly/Seton clash was one of the rare exciting moments of the race.I know safety is important but it looks like another season where the safety car is out for more laps than it is in.
Constant safety car interuptions = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[roboneill]

Originally posted by brchi17
I agree it was great to see two DJR cars back in the top ten at the end of a race :D !!!

Also it was interesting to note that when Todd actually tried to pass Seton cleanly that he was able to get past him.

I know they say rubbing is racing, but as a spectator watching the race I was surprised he wasn’t given the meat ball flag for his driving conduct.

cheers. :)

I was watching that and thinking, if he spins him he'll do a drive through. I think Seto in the end seemed to not worry about whether he passed him or not the big picture was to remain in a good posi for today's race. Probably a bit of inexperience or maturity on todd's behalf, but hey they are racers and you want to be in front of the guy in front.



Also i thought the SBR/888 was just a partnership on developing the engines jointly to save costs. DOnt holden do this through alotf of the teams (asking the ? as am not sure)..

What impressed me most about yesterday is how some of the other teams are starting to get a handle on their cars and become more competitive in the series.

Good to see lowndesy up near the pointy end he will be one to watch...Looking forward to todays race, so better get the house work done before it starts

[TBVX05]

I think Kelly drove a very good race and Seton got what he deserved as he was too slow. Looks promising for HRT this season if their cars can be reliable...

[TBVX05]

I think Kelly drove a very good race and Seton got what he deserved as he was too slow. Looks promising for HRT this season if their cars can be reliable...

[awawaw]

Originally posted by TBVX05
I think Kelly drove a very good race and Seton got what he deserved as he was too slow. Looks promising for HRT this season if their cars can be reliable...

seton did start 24 or something and ended up 8th. kelly just had more speed at the end.

[TIC-302]

RACE 2 RESULTS, GO FORDS !



1 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 5000 78 01:59:11.1013 5 1:23.1359R
2 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 5000 78 01:59:17.4615 30 1:23.6877
3 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 01:59:17.9126 21 1:23.4655
4 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 01:59:33.3809 23 1:23.5374
5 24 Team Perkins Racing Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VY 5000 78 01:59:37.6892 22 1:23.9226
6 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 01:59:38.2501 25 1:24.0007
7 45 WOW Sight & Sound Max Wilson Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 01:59:40.8632 68 1:24.5093
8 50 Super Cheap Auto Racing Paul Weel Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 01:59:47.9944 25 1:24.4427
9 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 01:59:51.3224 5 1:24.4431
10 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 01:59:54.5585 22 1:24.0302
11 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 5000 78 01:59:54.6351 29 1:24.6689
12 52 Fujitsu Racing Matthew White Ford Falcon BA 5000 78 02:00:01.6610 31 1:24.6222
13 25 Fujitsu Racing Steve Owen Ford Falcon BA 5000 78 02:00:17.0300 27 1:24.4355
14 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 5000 78 02:00:18.7343 22 1:24.6804
15 17 Westpoint Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 5000 78 02:00:24.9317 21 1:23.7483
16 67 Sirromet-Life, Style, Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VZ 5000 78 02:00:27.8641 38 1:24.9785
17 8 WPS Craig Baird Ford Falcon BA 5000 77 01:59:35.7804 6 1:24.6992
18 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 5000 77 02:00:01.9867 6 1:23.5537
19 44 Team Dynamik Simon Wills Holden Commodore VZ 5000 77 02:00:34.9538 46 1:24.0666
20 21 Team BOC Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 5000 75 01:59:19.4266 28 1:24.4842
21 7 Autobarn Racing Alex Davison Holden Commodore VY 5000 75 01:59:22.8606 29 1:24.9816
22 23 Tasman Motorsport Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VY 5000 75 01:59:57.0915 21 1:23.2894
23 48 WPS David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 5000 75 02:00:32.0654 7 1:24.3241
24 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 5000 74 01:59:58.2007 21 1:24.4662
25 18 Westpoint Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 5000 71 02:00:19.0438 26 1:24.2896
26 11 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 5000 69 02:00:38.8878 22 1:23.3554
27 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VZ 5000 66 01:59:29.1384 23 1:24.4538
DNF 12 Team BOC John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 5000 68 01:45:30.4619 28 1:24.1952
DNF 5 Ford Performance Racing Greg Ritter Ford Falcon BA 5000 52 01:20:12.1620 28 1:24.6928
DNF 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VY 5000 52 01:20:14.5348 22 1:23.9705
DNF 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 5000 48 01:14:23.2734 22 1:24.5644
DNF 16 HSV Dealer Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VZ 5000 14 23:28.3126 4 1:23.7780
DNF 51 Super Cheap Auto Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ 5000 7 9:58.2553 6 1:24.0364

3 Safety Car Periods With A Total Of 9 Laps
Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 142kph, Race Av.Speed Is 128kph
Current Race Lap Record Is 1:23.1903 Set On 19/03/2005 By Mark Skaife In A Holden Commodore VZ
R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time
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Issue# 2 - Printed Sun Mar 20 17:52:33 2005 Timing System By NATSOFT (03)63342353 www.natsoft.com.au/results & Dorian DATA-1
Final Result Timing by AVESCO/A7CSA - B Frost Chief Timekeeper

[crispy crunchy]

im a hearin ya brudda

great drive by lowndes
also gotta hand it to hrt fellas:D

[Martin Thomas]

Is it just me or is Ambrose lucky he didn't have a speed gun on him when he went into the pits for fuel???;)

[Esses]

Originally posted by TBVX05
I think Kelly drove a very good race and Seton got what he deserved as he was too slow. Looks promising for HRT this season if their cars can be reliable...

Actually, Kellys own Team was on the radio telling him to cool down & back off, 4 laps to go, think about tomorrow......instead he just kept hammering away at the back of Seto. Hard enough to break pieces of bumper clean off AND smash up the front of his car. Lucky not to do some radiator damage. Seto had done what, 50 or 60 laps on those tyres & was still competitive. I know who I think is the more mature driver & who let the "red mist" down over the eyes.:)

Great race for Ambrose & SBR (both days), FANTASTIC effort by Lowndes & yes, by Skaife, too.

[waldo]

It was good to see Paul Dumbrell up there amongst the top order today, he handle himself well after recovering from another contact today. But in my opinion I'd be looking past HRT/HSV for a red team to take it up to the blue oval brigade.

[Leigh]

Originally posted by VXfan
Even a one-eyed hrt supporter like me knows it wasnt luck James.What is going on in the Holden camp? They seem to have no idea of tactics!absolute shocker today,not happy at all:mad:
VXFan,

Holden could not risk useing the same tactic as SBR...The HMS engine is much thirstier than the Ford engine, which is in turn thirstier than the old 18 degree...

James,

It takes more than just the same engine supplier to win a race...the Orrcon cars are case in point...as is the 888 cars, they just do not have the same smooth chassis of the SBR cars...

On another issue, diod anybody hear what Jnr got fined for (and by whom?).

Cheers

[BB]

I have some more Clipsal photo's here if your interested. I hope the link works.

http://photobucket.com/albums/y56/turn8

[VXfan]

Nice pics there BB :)
Couple of questions -
1)was that the '88 Perkins/Hulme Bathurst car?
2)How much were they asking for it?
Admin,any chance of seeing this in 1:18 one day?Look great in my HRT collection!
Nice to see so many old Bathurst cars,hope they bring some of these to Sandown later in the year!

[VXfan]

How on earth did Max 'kamikaze' Wison end up in 7th spot??!!Every time I saw the guy he was either spinning or causing mayhem somewhere!! Unbelievable!:confused:

[Dingo]

Originally posted by BB
I have some more Clipsal photo's here if your interested. I hope the link works.

http://photobucket.com/albums/y56/turn8
Interesting to see that while most of the cars ran full tobacco livery, the old Longhurst Sierra was "on edge" about it all...

[Martin Thomas]

Originally posted by lcfp2297

On another issue, diod anybody hear what Jnr got fined for (and by whom?).

Cheers [/B]

Basically illeagle marketing on the podium.. Someone involved with Ford (I guess) got the first 4 (all Fords) from race 1 on the podium and took a few snaps...

Ford have agreed to pay the fine..

[BB]

Originally posted by VXfan
Nice pics there BB :)
Couple of questions -
1)was that the '88 Perkins/Hulme Bathurst car?
2)How much were they asking for it?
Admin,any chance of seeing this in 1:18 one day?Look great in my HRT collection!
Nice to see so many old Bathurst cars,hope they bring some of these to Sandown later in the year!

1) Not sure VXfan. I was sure some body would be interested thats why I took the number and would'nt you know it, it's the only car I did not get a good shot of.
2) Ring him.

The guys I did speak to were very approachable and were only too happy to talk about the history of their cars. I must say the Sierra's and the Nissan's looked great but you cant beat the sound of those early V8s. The Walkinshaw VL sounded awesome.

[BB]

Originally posted by Dingo
Interesting to see that while most of the cars ran full tobacco livery, the old Longhurst Sierra was "on edge" about it all...

I asked the guy from diecast4u who owned it and he said he didnt want any hassles and was happy just to leave it as is. I cant remember his name but he was a nice bloke and we had a good old chin wag about diecast.

[Leigh]

Thanks Martin

[brchi17]

Originally posted by Martin Thomas
Basically illeagle marketing on the podium.. Someone involved with Ford (I guess) got the first 4 (all Fords) from race 1 on the podium and took a few snaps...

Ford have agreed to pay the fine..

That's basically what I belived it to be.

below is the relevant section of the press release from the CAMS stewards....

RESULTS OF INVESTIGATIONS HELD AFTER RACE 1 The IPO held an investigation into an alleged breach of rules by Vendance Pty Ltd (Westpoint Racing) for presence of commercial and promotional personnel at the podium presentation after Race 1.
Offence: Presence at podium presentation of Commercial and Promotional Personnel - E2.6.2 (A2.2, A4.5, A8.1).
Decision: Breach proved by admission and penalty accepted.
Penalty: A fine of $30,000.

What interested me was that the company fined was actually someone by the name of Vendance Pty Ltd, not DJR. Which makes me ask the question,
Is DJR really DJR ???

cheers. :)

[Leigh]

Just guessing, but I'd tip that the entity called DJR run a team called Westpoint Racing for an entity known as Vendance Pty Ltd...hence Vendance are the liable party...

[Kenseth17]

Well after watching the weekend of racing and completion of Round 1 I am a happy boy to see MA and Lowndsey do so well.Ambrose speed was just awesome, especially on 'cold tyres' and SBR tactics worked so well.It was a great fight back in race two from 'The Kid' and the battle between himself, Skaife and Ingall was terrific.Happy with Ingall's result although the gearbox situation was a shame.Showed he had plenty of pace all weekend though.HRT showed they are back on pace and although no points for Skaife in race 1 and TKelly did not get the excact result he wanted, they showed their colours well and should be back winning races this year.As far as Skaifey's drive in race 2 goes, it was vintage stuff but for me, the jury is still out on him.TKelly was impressive and his battle with Seto on Saturday was great stuff.I did not think it was unfair and both showed courage and fight.In the end TKelly had too much speed and both got a good result considering their days.Shame Seto had problems in race 2.Many 'smaller' teams doing well at the moment and Wilson's drive and DJR were fantastic.
Great motor racing but there is a long way to go yet! :cool: