DeAgostini Rally Car Collection

[jager]

Saw on TV last night an advert for a new 'part works' rally car series from 'DeAgonstini' to be sold through newsagents with a magazine and a 1:43 model. The cars will be releases weekly and includes a Mini Cooper, Lancia 037, Lancia Stratos, Renault 5 Maxi, Fiat Arbarth, Ford Escort 1800, Ford Escort Cosworth plus all the current rally cars.

Best of all thee models which are reportedly made by Sonic (owners of IXO) will sell for only $16 each. In Europe the same people have also released a similar Ferrari series, a Porsche series, a general race car series and a Taxi series.

More details here : http://www.deagostini.com.au/rallycar/flash.htm

[Martin Thomas]

There are some nice stuff there, hows the free gifts? Can anyone tell how many issues for the full subscription?

My Red Baron one is going to cost over a grand so I have to make sure it will be missus friendly:D

[tonynz]

Martin
What do you think of the Red Baron.
They have just starting releasing it here in NZ.
I though it might be a good project for my son and I.
As you said it will cost over a grand, so I am abit unsure.

On the DeAgonstins series, I am collecting the "Champion racing Bikes" They are great and are looking good all lined up.

[Tumbo]

Good to see that the rally collection is finally coming down under. From what i've seen on ebay and other forums and in my discussion w/ UK friedns the car's outward appearance is the same as the IXO castings but they lack the interior detail such as seatbelts. Overall good quality for the money and good as base models :D

[Martin Thomas]

Originally posted by tonynz
Martin
What do you think of the Red Baron.
They have just starting releasing it here in NZ.
I though it might be a good project for my son and I.
As you said it will cost over a grand, so I am abit unsure.


Tony,
Its a top quality kit, no doubt about it. I have not started building it yet, I'm waiting 'till all the bits are here. Im positive its a Hasegawa one repackaged. (I cant guarantee it, though)
I nearly bought one from the States some years back and it would have cost US $600 - $700. Have seen them on ebay every now and then.
Heres an example of a Hasegawa Kit

Fokker here (http://www.wwi-models.org/Images/Nuesser/German/)

And another

Fokker there (http://scalemodel.net/driii.htm)

And another

Fokkers everywhere (http://www.internethobbies.com/internethobbies/ha s18fokdrit.html)

As you can see, I was pretty keen on it to begin with..:)

Tony, long shot here, have you spent time in Newman??

[Holden2003]

the only problem with this magazine is that there is no information about what is the order of the cars coming out. I want the modern ones, not the old 1's. I have seen 2 focus models, one mat monte carlo and one in acropolis (new focus), the 307 wrc, skoda octavia in the brocure and on website but it does not say what model is coming out at a particular time. they are fantastic models too.

[Tumbo]

1st release is Burns' 03 Monte 206
2nd Solberg NZ 2003 Subaru
3rd Loeb Monte 2003 Xsara

they talk about the first 5 releases on the site

[jager]

A fellow collector told me the DeAgostini series was released in France in 2003. The series contains 50 models :

1 Citroën Xsara Loeb/Elena / Monte-Carlo 2003
2 Peugeot 206 Burns/Reid / Monte-Carlo 2003
3 Subaru Impreza Mäkinen/Linström Nouvelle-Zélande 2003
4 Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Ragnotti/Thimonier / Tour de Corse 1985
5 Audi Quattro E2 Röhrl/Geistörfer / San Rémo 1985
6 Citröen Saxo Sola/Romani / Catalunya 2002
7 Lancia Stratos Alen/Kivimaki San Rémo 1978
8 Ford Focus Märtin/Park Acropole 2003
9 BMW M3 Béguin/Lenne Tour de Corse 2003
10 Hyundaï Accent WRC
11 Porsche 911 carrera RS Nicolas-Lavergne vainqueur Monte carlo 78
12 Skoda Fabia Auriol/Giraudet Tour de Corse 2003
13 Lancia Delta Intergrale Kankkunen-Piironen vainqueur Portugal 92
14 Alfa-Roméo TZ Rolland/Augias Coupe des Alpes 1964
15 Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD Sainz/Moya Catalunya 1992
16 Fiat 131 Abarth - Alen-Kivimaki vainqueur 1000lacs 79
17 MG METRO 6R4 Ulster Rally 1985 Jimmy Mc Rae / Grindod
18 Renault CLIO S1600
19 Fiat 124 Abarth Portugal 1974 Pinto/Bernacchini
20 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus Frequelin/Todt
21 Ford Escort 1973 Makinen
22 Ford Sierra RS
23 Lancia Fulvia
24 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III Finlande 1996 Mäkinen/Harjanne
25 Fiat 124 Abarth (?)
26 Datsun 160 J Safari 1980 Mehta/Doughty
27 MG Métro 6R4 (?)
28 Mitsubishi Lancer WRC Monte-Carlo 2004 Panizzi/Panizzi
29 Subaru Impreza 555 R.A.C 1995 Mc Rae/Ringer
30 Lancia Delta S4 R.A.C 1985 Toivonen/Wilson
31 Lancia 037 Evo Safari 1984 Auriol/Giraudet
32 Skoda Octavia WRC Monte-Carlo 2003 Auriol/Giraudet
33 Seat Cordoba WRC Safari 2000 Auriol/Giraudet
34 Fiat Punto S1600 Monte-Carlo 2003 Ligato/Garcia
35 Citroën C2 Sport ? ? ? ? 2004 ? Paez ???
36 Porsche 911 S Monte-Carlo 1968 Elford/Stone
37 Ford RS200 Suède 1986 Grundel/Melander
38 Opel Ascona 400 Monte-Carlo 1982 Röhrl/Geistörfer
39 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 Finlande 1986 Salonen/Harjanne
40 Seat Ibiza Gti Evo 2 Monte-Carlo 1999 Gardemeister/Lukander
41 Toyota Celica WRC Australie 1999 Sainz/Mo
42 Audi Quattro San Rémo 1981 Mouton/Pons
43 Ford Escort MkII Acropole 1979 Waldegaard/Thorszélius
44 Porsche 959 Paris-Dakar 1986 Metge/Lemoyne
45 Peugeot 404 Safari 1968 Nowicki/Cliff
46 Saab 96V4 Suède 1973 Blomqvist/Hertz
47 Toyota Celica GT4 Acropole 1990 Sainz/Moya
48 Volvo PV544 Safari 1965 Singh/Singh
49 Austin Healey 3000 Spa-Sofia-Liège 1964 Aaltonen/Ambrose
50 Alpine Renault A110 1800 Tour de Corse 1973 Thérier/Jaubert

[Tumbo]

The set has also been released in the UK where a couple of the models are different :solberg's instead of Makinen's cars...and the order is slightly different. If you click on the FAQs icon it would appear that we are getting the same as their set

[lachlan]

Thanks for the list jager,
I haven't seen it advertised anywhere he in Canberra but I'm going to get it for sure, I just have to finnish the bike collection now, it seems to be going for ever.
For $17 a model you cant beat it for value, and the extra model with the 4th mag looks excellent, just have to order it now.

[tonynz]

lachlan
How many in the bike set, we are only up to 24 here in NZ.
While I was in Japan last year they had just started the bike collection, they came boxed alot nicer than here, as well as the first bike in Japan was a special edition Kato bike.

Martin
Never spent any time in Newman, would have to look at a map to know where it is.

[rex555]

Just spoke to an operator regarding this. Apparently due to a fire in the UK some stock was damaged and now the no. due for release is only 10 with only 2 free gifts :mad:

[lachlan]

Originally posted by tonynz
lachlan
How many in the bike set, we are only up to 24 here in NZ.
While I was in Japan last year they had just started the bike collection, they came boxed alot nicer than here, as well as the first bike in Japan was a special edition Kato bike.

Martin
Never spent any time in Newman, would have to look at a map to know where it is.

Tonynz,
I think there are 60 bikes in the collection, I'm upto #46. They look great all stacked up together.

rex555, are you talking about the rally collection? I hope not...

[rex555]

lachlan

That is the info I just got from the operator. Can honestly say I'm not happy about it.

[lachlan]

Originally posted by rex555
lachlan

That is the info I just got from the operator. Can honestly say I'm not happy about it.


I'm not happy about it aswell, what a joke....... Not sure if I'm going to get them now. A 10 part series??? is it really worth doing in the first place?

[lachlan]

Originally posted by rex555
lachlan

That is the info I just got from the operator. Can honestly say I'm not happy about it.

I just rang up to order and they said every think was OK and its all going ahead. She did say that they were having some troubles with other mags?? So I hope it will all be OK.....

[rex555]

Well if thats the case then that is fine however she did specifically tell me that there would only be 2 'free gifts' and that there were only 10 issues. Hopefully she was mistaken about the series I was asking for and that the rally cars are all OK. Some of the best ones are at the middle and end of the series (Porsche 959 Paris-Dakkar)

[Nick Short]

Can someone tell me the name of this magazine?

[lachlan]

Originally posted by Nick Short
Can someone tell me the name of this magazine?

Rally Car Collection.

[Nick Short]

Thanks for that! I missed it when it was published in the UK, an so was hoping for a second chance at getting hold of it. I've seen a couple of the models and they are good enough for the cabinet if you're into 1:43. Does anyone know when the first one is due in the shops?

[rex555]

OK visited the 'official' web site and the newsagents today.

Apparently they are doing a trial run in WA first before release to the whole country. They do this in SA and WA or combined. If it is a success, wait about 10 weeks before the general release Australia wide.

Rang them since I was having problems with their site and the site said WA ONLY. Got a helpfull lady who took my details and said that the cars were being released once a month not fortnightly as per the web site. My address isn't in WA but she wasn't worried by that.

Now the (about) 21 day wait for delivery and 4 years for the whole set. She was still saying an issue of 50 cars altogether. Now I guess time will tell.

Would have been nice to see one first hand before diving in but c'est la vie!

[jager]

In the Newsagents (in W.A.) this week !

[Nick Short]

Sounds like a really half-assed run-out to me! What's the betting that it doesn't make it to the other states, or like so many of these part works, that you get your first few issues and then it vanishes.

[ferrari fan]

They are piling up at all the newsagents and have been for more than a week.
This week the "west" Capparossi" Honda is also on sale in the motor bike edition.

[lachlan]

Well, I got my first models today.
Peugeot 206 and the rally NZ Subaru. Nice looking models, I think they are the same as the ixo junior range or even the normal IXO models? Great for the price. $24.95 for 2 1:43 rally models including postage. Can't wait for the rest
Looking forward the the Escort and tow van.

Also would any body in Perth be willing to buy the first issue for me as mine has glue all over the cover? I'll cover all costs. Thanks.....

[Tumbo]

the models are the same as the IXO cast but lack some of the greater detail: i.e seatbelts etc.

[timbo333]

I got the first 2 models from the newsagent and have subscribed for the 3rd onwards.

Looking forward to getting the Escort and Transit plus the Mini.

I did start the Champion Racing Bike series and got up to issue/model #19 i think before i realised i don't even like bikes.....stupid is stupid does...:(

Anyway if anybody wants these bikes and accompanying mags/binder for a very reasonable price give me PM.

Cheers,

Timbo.

[rex555]

Lachlan. I just got back from working in Brissie for 2 weeks and found that the first 3 had been delivered (3rd being the Xsara of Loeb). Don't know how much luck you will have getting an un-glued issue 1, since mine is exactly the same. Suprised that any are being delivered to me since the pilot scheme is just supposed to be in WA and I'm in SA. Not complaning tho' good value for the price:D

[jager]

Separate to the DeAgostino collection, I saw a Cararama 1:43 Subaru WRX with 'Telstra Rally Australia' markings (possibly '03 or '04) in a model shop today for $8.95. Nice model and great value.

[rex555]

Anyone else who subscribed to this who hasn't got their Mini diorama? I got a reciept saying "Out of Stock - On Order" Hopefully it will arrive soon, its like Christmas every fortnight;)

[lachlan]

Thanks to GSXR1 for sending me the first issue. It was packed heaps better than the one that was sent from the supplier.
I havent got issue 3 or the mini yet. I hope they get more in stock.

[rex555]

Revceived Issues 4 & 5 on Friday. Metro 6R4 and 1000 Lakes 1994 Ford Escort. Just looked on the Biante website and the Makinen Ford Escort is an iXO Junior product retailing for $23.50 plus postage and you can get it delivered for $16.95. Bargain! A number of the up coming models appear to be iXO with maybe some Minichamps thrown in to the mix?

[Andrew]

I desperately want this collection, but the eastern states don't seem to be getting them just yet. I inquired with my local newsagent, and they said that these sorts of things are usually trialled in South Australia and Western Australia to gauge their popularity. I hope you lot are buying up big so that De Agostini see it as a success, so the rest of us have the opportunity to buy them!

[rex555]

Andrew

Go to the first post on this thread and there is a link or go to bissettmags.com.au and subscribe on line. This is only being trialed in WA ATM but I am in SA and they didn't say that I couldn't subscribe. So far everything except the 3rd & 4th free gifts have arrived and they are waiting on them from the UK. No idea as to how frequent they are supposed to be since over a 3-4 week period I have recieved 5 models. Marko Martins 2003 Acropolis Focus is supposed to be the next one.

Hope this helps.

Neil

[Andrew]

Originally posted by rex555
Andrew

Go to the first post on this thread and there is a link or go to bissettmags.com.au and subscribe on line. This is only being trialed in WA ATM but I am in SA and they didn't say that I couldn't subscribe. So far everything except the 3rd & 4th free gifts have arrived and they are waiting on them from the UK. No idea as to how frequent they are supposed to be since over a 3-4 week period I have recieved 5 models. Marko Martins 2003 Acropolis Focus is supposed to be the next one.

Hope this helps.

Neil

Mate, thankyou so much. I will delve deeper into this. I was relating what my newsagent was telling me (and they are superb newsagents, the best in fact). They hadn't even been sent literature stating that such a series was being produced, but they said it was usual that the Eastern States had to wait.
But coming bak to your point, thanks, I will go and check it out.

Andrew

[rex555]

Just noticed on the Biante web site that some significant holes in the Rally Car Collection are being filled by new iXO models.

Namely these are:-

1966 Mini
Volvo P544
Ford RS200
Lancia Stratos

Look under 'rally development 1:43'

[Nick Short]

I missed the Minichamps RS200 so the iXO one will be welcome! One day we might see a 1:18.......

[rex555]

Nick, if you type in RS200 you will see that there is a choice of 2. There was even a promorional one at Rally GB last year. Parked in the carpark for Walters Arena.

[Nick Short]

I should have said 1:18 made by someone other than Ricko or Sun Star I suppose! AutoArt have promised 1:18 Group B cars but that was a long time ago........

I'm still waiting to see if SA gets the magazine and I'm starting to doubt it.

[rex555]

If they don't start advertising in the next couple of weeks then I'd say it won't be happening. That would be about the 10 week time frame they said it would be after the pilot in WA.

[Tumbo]

Well its finally come out here in the Eastern States :D , picked up the first issue today with Burns' Monte 206, now I have to pick up some decals from one of the Marlboro sponsered events (peugeot only ran Marlboro on the car during shakedown so i'll try and get decals from an event like Catalunya or Argentina where the car ran w/ Marlboro decals for the rally). Nice job Altaya

[wayno]

Just saw the adds on tv here in Melbourne. Might have to go check it out. Still unsure if I'll bother with it or not.

[bigdave]

i got the first today with the 206, i must say the quality of them is very good.

im not gonna buy all of them just selected ones (all the 2003 models plus selected other ones) looking forward the the subie next issue

[rex555]

bigdave

You may have some difficulty in getting those models since they are scattered through the collection. eg 2003 Acropolis Focus is Issue 6. It is only the first 3 that run sequentially with 2003 cars. I have noticed that many newsagencies stop stocking these part works series on the shelves after about Issue 3 so you need to have an order through them. Good luck with it.

[Andrew]

I saw them yesterday too, and spoke with the newsagent.
He said that there were 50 cars to be released, and that it will take 2 years all up. The toal cost is over AU$800. It sounds expensive, but over such a long period of time, it spreads out ok. Just think that it equates to half a dozen 1:18's, but remember that you are getting a comprehensive collection of the world's greatest rally cars for only $17 each, including a fact file. The cars bought through normal means from IXO, Vitesse, Skid, Trofeu etc cost upwards of $50 per car, so it works out in the end.

Mind you, in saying that, I have yet to decide to strat the collection as I am in a tight sport financially. The AutoArt and Kyosho 1:18 R32 GT-R Skylines are a few months away, and my girlfriend is already collecting the Agatha Christie book collection through the fortnightly newsagent deal, so stretching that extra might be too much. This would kill me as I love rallying and rally cars, and it was WRCars that got me strated collecting diecast in the first place all those years ago....

[rex555]

IMHO you get excelent value for money. This is car no 5 in the series. Tommi's Thousand Lakes Escort. Still cheaper through the collection than buying 'over the counter' and you don't have to pay postage and as Andrew says you get the magazine with it too.

http://www.biante.com.au/merchandise.cfm?mode=view&MerchandiseID=15326

Quite a few of the iXO models in the collection are already on the Biante web site or search the iXO link for more. I've put a hold on my 1:18 purchases ATM but I still feel I'm an active collector only spending $34 per month for 2 cars.

[Tumbo]

Can someone from the west who has started the collection fill us in with the order of release. I know that the UK release was different from the initial Spanish release, unsure about the difference with the French.

Just curious because i'm only after a couple of cars from the collection and hope they are relased here (read Solberg 03 RAC. McRae 95 RAC, Gronholm 04 Monte):D

[Andrew]

One question I have:
if you subscribe thorugh a newsagency (ie. get them to hold one for you every fortnight), are you still eligible to get the free gifts (like the diorama, Ford van and trailer etc.) or do you have to subscribe thorugh the website?

[rex555]

Tumbo,

Don't hold your breath for Solberg GB '03. Car No. 3 is his Rally NZ car from the same year so I doubt that you will also get the other one.

Here is the list of what has arrived or is due so far.

1 Citroën Xsara Loeb/Elena / Monte-Carlo 2003
2 Peugeot 206 Burns/Reid / Monte-Carlo 2003
3 Subaru Impreza Solberg/Mills New Zealand 2003
4.Ford Escort 1994 Makinen 1000 Lakes
5 MG Métro 6R4 RAC Rally
6 Ford Focus Märtin/Park Acropolis 2003
7 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 6 Tommi Makinen NZ 1999
8 Audi Quattro E2 Röhrl/Geistörfer / San Rémo 1985 (Next week)

Andrew,

You only get the freebies is you subscribe on the web site. That said, I'm still waiting for most of them
:confused:

[wayno]

Is it actually a magazine with the car? If so can someone tell me what it's like?

[singer]

Originally posted by wayno
Is it actually a magazine with the car? If so can someone tell me what it's like?

The Minister for War & Finance surprised me & Subscibed to the Rally collection. :eek:

Cars are reasonable quality however the mag is more of a brochure style. Just enough info to get your interest but not enough depth for a fan:(

[brchi17]

Originally posted by singer
....Cars are reasonable quality however the mag is more of a brochure style. Just enough info to get your interest but not enough depth for a fan

So what scale are they Ken ???

cheers. :)

[Tumbo]

They are 1/43 Brad. Think IXO minus the extra detail- that is interior is not as flash, no seatbelts, a couple of minor differences with the bodyshell- not noticable really unless one knows the car, well worth the price though :D

[rex555]

Just got the next 2 last night:-

8. Audi Quattro E2 San Remo a little stunner given the price.

9. Triumph TR7 V8 Manx Rally – not what I ever pictured as a ‘classic’ rally car:confused:

10. Next is the Lancia Delta

I'm looking at it as a good way to start a potted history of rallying and later fill in the gaps with the cars I really want but haven't yet got.

As for the magazine, it is pretty light weight as a one off and only takes about ½ hour to read but it will build into a pretty impressive history of the sport. Also has some classic McKlein photography in it too, like the airborne Celica with Mt. Kilamanjaro in the back ground.

[Nick Short]

The TR7 V8 was as much a classic rally car as the Austin Healey or Mini, in British eyes, anyway! Lightweight aluminium V8, rear wheel drive, Tony Pond at the helm (I'm guessing it's his car modelled?), who became even more popular with his 3rd place in the 1985 RAC in the MG Metro 6R4 debut. But having said that, the TR7 was part of the seriously outdated range of British Leyland cars, that still used 1940s mechanicals in the case of some of the Austins (Morris Minor technology in 1980s cars!). And it was ugly to many people's eyes, but that was said about a lot of later rally cars too!

[rex555]

I remember a teacher at school had a TR7 in yellow and we thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. Until another teacher turned up with a John Goss Special with the green and orange stripes:D Oh, how easily impressed we were.

It is the Pond car that is modeled.

[Nick Short]

The base TR7 was BL's rather tragic attempt at a "sports car", to top what was possibly the worst model range outside of Russia. Only with the removal of the wheezy 4 cylinder and addition of the Buick/Rover alloy V8 did the TR7 (aka TR8 in this form) get anything like performance, enough for the British rallies.......But on the world rally stage it was seriously outdated and outclassed. BL brought in the Rover Vitesse (with the same V8) for rally and circuit use, but it was obvious something better was needed. Hence the MG Metro 6R4. So the TR7 (if you're a Pommy rally fan) fits right into the history of rallying......The road car was often the car of choice for geography teachers who fancied themselves to be a bit of a lad, and who thought the Ford Capri was a bit old.

[rex555]

Yeah, I seem to remember this teacher with a tweed jacket with patches on the elbows getting out of his TR7:D

[Andrew]

I finally got the first issue, and I am very happy with it. At the price, it represents outstanding value.
Wayne, if you haven't decided to strat the collection yet, I would urge you to do so. Sure, they don't have the minute interior detail or fine painting of the $50+ cars, but they are absolutely worth the $16.95 with the magazine. I have had my eye on a Minichamps Makinen Escort 1994 Thousand Lakes winner at my local for a long time, but now knowing that I can get one through this series for less than half the price with a magazine/brochure means I will leave it there and save some money. I just hope that they release a Stratos with the Alitalia livery.

The other good thing about these cars are that isf anyone was thinking of creating a rally diorama and wanted to spray their cars with Tamiya's dirst and smoke spray to simulte the dirty look, then if it stuffs up, it is not like you have destroyed a limited edition release Minichamps diecast.... You just go to the newsagent and buy another one with change from a twenty....

Good stuff.

[Tumbo]

Don't know if there is an Alitali liveried stratos Andrew, but there should be a Pirelli one released later on in the series

[rex555]

Just got free gift No.3 last night. The Mini/Col de Turinni diorama. It's not bad for a mass produced item and bigger than I was expecting too. About 220mm x 150mm and since the Mini isn't mounted on there you can interchange with other cars. Can't fault the price either;)

[Tumbo]

Hi all,

well i bit the bullet and bought the second issue so that I can convert it to Sarrazin 04 Catalunya spec.....for $17 and having strongly considered the car in the past I had to do it :D.

Also just received my Marlboro Catalunya 03 decals for my issue 1 peugeot, will post pics of the car on my photobucket once the conversion is complete, stay tuned!

[bazzel]

hi all i just got mine yesterday no 1-2 i am not right into rally but these look ok . but as far as bisset magazine i get the motor bikes to but canceled them and get them from the news agent .Bissets stop sending me bikes at issue 38 11 month ago with no explanation i did ring 11 times over that period and got all different answers the last one being the place had burnt down. i think it is all bullss$*# i done a bit of a search and could find anything that had burnt down i think they do over subsgribe to people so hope all go,s well for everybodybut dont be suprised. i have given them another shot with the cars we will see what happens cheers barry

[rpz00m]

Originally posted by Nick Short
The base TR7 was BL's rather tragic attempt at a "sports car", to top what was possibly the worst model range outside of Russia. Only with the removal of the wheezy 4 cylinder and addition of the Buick/Rover alloy V8 did the TR7 (aka TR8 in this form) get anything like performance, enough for the British rallies........

A gentleman by the name of Colin Bond rallied one in Australia in the early 80's in Group A guise (Long live Group G). It was a beast in a straight line but had realiability problems. Great on tarmac though, once saw it on a special stage at the Catalina Park race circuit near Katoomba NSW in 81 or 82 and he set fastest stage time.

As an aside got my copies of part 1 and 2 yesterday and am impressed with the quality of the models and the content of the magazines. They should look great alongside the bike collection from the same publisher.

[Tumbo]

was wrong Andrew, there might be an alitalia Stratos in the fold

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/W8-IXO-ALTAYA-LANCIA-STRATOS-MUNARI-MC-1977-1-43-MIB_W0QQitemZ5990546666QQcategoryZ56392QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

[spillage]

hi jager,spillage here,i'm collecting the racing bike series by the same magazine company,with bikes made by ixo,go for it,if the cars are anything like the bikes,highly detailed,not to expensive being promotional..

[rex555]

Originally posted by rex555
Just got the next 2 last night:-

8. Audi Quattro E2 San Remo a little stunner given the price.

9. Triumph TR7 V8 Manx Rally – not what I ever pictured as a ‘classic’ rally car:confused:

10. Next is the Lancia Delta

Last night I received:-

11. Subaru Impreza 1995 Colin McRae Network Q Rally

Next is:-

12. Peugeot 307 2004 Monte. Dunno why. Cars done nothing 'till last weekend.

[Tumbo]

Fantastic to hear that no's 11 and 12 are the other 2 cars I want from this series :D

btw rex555 the 2004 307 won last yr's rally of Finland.....12mths between wins brought up the evo2's 1st win last weekend

[rex555]

Originally posted by Tumbo
btw rex555 the 2004 307 won last yr's rally of Finland.....12mths between wins brought up the evo2's 1st win last weekend

I didn't realize that. Still it's not a great achievement for a car with such good drivers and so much development money thrown at it. I guess in the last 2 years anyone is going to look shabby alongside Loeb:(

[Tumbo]

know what you mean.....tho i don't rate Loeb as strongly as Sainz, Gronholm, Makinen or even McRae

he will probably win 2 in a row but i doubt he can win 4, and i question his ability once the cars are stripped of the extra "aids" next season- methinks that Gronholm may roar again ;)

[rex555]

I believe that one of his biggest advantages is the Citroen itself and the team behind it. Reliability due to being at the end of its development cycle and a team on a roll. Life would be very different for him in a Mitsi or Ford. I DO NOT want to see him in a Subaru tho'. Too much friction between 2 good drivers isn't good for a team.

[spillage]

so is the quality of the rally cars good then?,i'm collecting the racing bikes,but i'd like to collect the rally cars as well,so let me know...thanks..spillage

[Tumbo]

The quality of the cars is fine. They use IXO moulds but just lack some of the detail of the $45+ models. Examples are the seatbealts and interior, some of the antenna. Overall they are great for a collection and fit in well with other IXO models. While not Trofeu they work well.

I for one recommend them :)

[rex555]

spillage

As Tumbo says, the quality is fine. I figure that I'm getting a comprehensive rally car collection for between 1/4 to 1/3 the cost they would usually be. Plus you get a magazine giving the history of rallying. And how often do you 'really' look inside the cars at the detail?

[spillage]

that sounds great,they've not been advertised here in n.z. yet,i found out about them when i was browsing the deagostini site,the bikes are very good,$17.95 with the magazine,if you bought the bikes from a model shop with 'ixo' stamped on the box,you'd pay $34.00,and get a replica helmut on the bike seat,but hey what's a helmut,they're pretty well detailed,60 in the set,so perhaps the rally car eqivilant will be the same eh?

[rex555]

50 in the set, spillage.

[spillage]

re:the slinkies,hope you enjoy the rally cars,once they're launced here in n.z.,i'll start collecting them also....could you recomend a good brand of e-type jaguar,preferably 1961,roadster.....

[rex555]

Can't help you there, sorry. Aussie Ford Racing cars XW-XC and Rally cars are what I mainly collect.

[spillage]

no problem,thank you ne way,enjoy you rally car collection..

[Tumbo]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IXO-TOYOTA-COROLLA-WRC-RALLY-AUSTRALIEN-99-1-43-D_W0QQitemZ6974077772QQcategoryZ39163QQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

didn't know this one was in the collection but one would assume it will be popular if released here. I'm interested in seeing whether IXO will eventually release some of the older subaru wrc cars. There are some nice ones to be modelled that have not been available for a long time

[rex555]

You think that they'd take the cover off to get a better picture wouldn't you? This was listed in the French collection and would be the only car that I know of from Rally Oz in the series. 2 from NZ but interestingly, none from Argentina. LOTS from Monte tho'.

[Tumbo]

for anyone interested here's a list of the cars released in Italy. 70 all up there :eek:

http://www.deagostiniedicola.it/collezioni/piano_o pera/Rally_collection.html

[Esses]

Got my first one for Father's Day, the RS200 Escort. I'd place them betwen Trax & Biante/CC for quality & at $16-99 that's not bad value. I'll pick & choose as they come out.

[lachlan]

Originally posted by Steve
Got my first one for Father's Day, the RS200 Escort. I'd place them betwen Trax & Biante/CC for quality & at $16-99 that's not bad value. I'll pick & choose as they come out.

Steve,
How did you get the RS200? Its not out yet in Canberra. Are you sure its not the Escort RS Cosworth?

[Esses]

Yup, that's it. Blame my "RS" memory.:D

[lachlan]

Mate, I started to stress out that I missed one. I feel better now.:D

[Esses]

Jus' keep an eye on those Newsagents. Or have you subscribed?:)

[lachlan]

I've subscribed, and I'm keeping an eye out in the newsagent for the ones I want doubles of. Mostly the group B cars. For 17bucks you really cant go wrong.

[Esses]

Yup. I've just started a new shelf - the Rally Car shelf. It's got a whole TWO cars on it. The Trax London-Sydney Falcon & the Escort.:D Have to get some more!:) Starting with the Mini Metro.

[rex555]

Got the next 2 in the rally car collection last night.

No.12 is the Pug 307 of Gronholm which is really quite detailed. Doesn't stop the fact that it is an ugly car so its still hidden in the back of the cabinet.:D
No.13 is the Datsun 240Z from the East African Rally 1971
No.14 will be the BMW M3 of Bengue from Corsica in 1983?

Would like some more Group B cars but I guess they will turn up eventually.

Noticed on the iXO site yesterday that they have 2 versions of the Ford RS200 just released so at least 1 should make it into the collection. (Woohoo)

With the addition of all these 1:43 scale cars the cabinet is officially full. Time to start being nice to the Mrs again. <sigh>
;)

[ferrari fan]

We ,in the West, are up to #11 the Subaru Impreza RAC rally 1995 of Colin McRae- Derrick Ringer.
Very nice for the $$
#12 will be the Peugeot 307 WRC

[rex555]

It seems that the subscription comes out slightly earlier than the news agents deliveries, which is fine by me. :D

The Impreza is a nice little car. Won't hang around on the shelves for long.

[Tumbo]

1987 the BMW won I believe :)

[rex555]

Yep, you are correct.

[Esses]

Originally posted by rex555
It seems that the subscription comes out slightly earlier than the news agents deliveries, which is fine by me. :D

The Impreza is a nice little car. Won't hang around on the shelves for long.

Yeah, try like 7 issues or 14 weeks. That's OK, I'll continue to pick & choose the ones I want, like the MG Metro today. Not real interested in the Focus next issue.

[timbo333]

I got the Peugeot and the Datsun on Tuesday.

Were waiting for me at home....:)

The Datsun looks good but my favourite so far is the Triumph. Well finished model and it looks great!

I'm happy with the cars produced so far......

Timbo.

[Tumbo]

just bought the Focus, wasn't going to but w/ the weekend's events decided to add it to the collection :(

[Esses]

Not real interested in the Focus & wavering on the Xsara. More interested in the earlier cars.

I think there's a few lessons that all Model Manufacturers could learn here as DeAgostini seem to have this down pat.
Firstly, offer the goods for a very reasonable price. The ones I have so far are the equal of others that I've paid around $40-00 for.
Secondly, release on schedule. From what I've read, the deliveries to subscribers seem to be pretty regular & they're certainly turning up at the Newsagents every fortnight.
Thirdly, only "advertise" when the goods are ready to roll to avoid consumer frustration.
Please, no silver bullets, these are observations not criticisms & are not aimed at anyone in particular.:)

[rex555]

I'm more than happy with what they've done and the way that they have done it. As Steve says, great price too, but you can do that when you purchase in the volumes that do.

[lachlan]

Has anyone got the Ford Trasit Van yet??? :confused:

[ferrari fan]

I do like their Racing bike issues the best.

[timbo333]

Originally posted by lachlan
Has anyone got the Ford Trasit Van yet??? :confused:

No i haven't got it yet. I'm a subscriber. I think the delay is done on purpose myself to keep people hanging out for the "free" gifts which take ages to arrive......

Timbo.

[lachlan]

Originally posted by timbo333
No i haven't got it yet. I'm a subscriber. I think the delay is done on purpose myself to keep people hanging out for the "free" gifts which take ages to arrive......

Timbo.



Thats what I was thinking, wait until issue 30 or something so they cover there costs? Still sucks becuase they promote that it will come with the fourth delivery.

[rex555]

Been in Perth for a couple of weeks where I could read the threads but not log on to contribute:confused:

While I was away the next 2 issues arrived.

14. BMW M3 Tour de Course. Dissapointed in this one. Should have 'Rothmans' livery but has 'Racing' instead. I would rather have had nothing so that the remedial action was easier to do. Even the picture on the front of the mag has the 'offensive' text removed from the front of the car.

15. Ford RS200 Sweden. Nice little car.

16. will be the Lancia 037 Martini from the Safari Rally. A bit busy and not as elegant as the normal bitumen/gravel versions.

A friend who is cherry picking the models he want from the news agents had a slip of paper in his last mag stating that from issue 8 onwards he will have to have a standing order with the news agents if he wants any more.

[timbo333]

I also got a binder (free) with the BMW and the RS200.

Didn't know i was getting that....:D

Still waiting on the Escort/Transit gift though...:mad:

Timbo.

[rex555]

Strange, I got my binder at least 6 weeks ago and I wasn't expecting it either. Maybe it is instead of the Transit? Hope not!

[Esses]

Originally posted by rex555
Been in Perth for a couple of weeks where I could read the threads but not log on to contribute:confused:

While I was away the next 2 issues arrived.

14. BMW M3 Tour de Course. Dissapointed in this one. Should have 'Rothmans' livery but has 'Racing' instead. I would rather have had nothing so that the remedial action was easier to do. Even the picture on the front of the mag has the 'offensive' text removed from the front of the car.

15. Ford RS200 Sweden. Nice little car.

16. will be the Lancia 037 Martini from the Safari Rally. A bit busy and not as elegant as the normal bitumen/gravel versions.

A friend who is cherry picking the models he want from the news agents had a slip of paper in his last mag stating that from issue 8 onwards he will have to have a standing order with the news agents if he wants any more.

Up to Issue 8 here - the Audi Quattro - no slip of paper, either. Very happy with the Audi & the next one, the Triumph TR-7 V8 is definite "getter". Talking to the newsagent, he was saying that they want to get an "Old Holdens" series going, too. Could be interesting. I suggested Fords & Valiants, as well.:)

[bazzel]

here we go again unfinished bike collection and now they are starting on the cars now got no7-8 yesterday no binder and last order no transit van and mini . for me it is starting the same way with the bikes i got no freebies when you were suppose to no good ringing them but then again ring them and ring them again next week and wait for the different excuse i might do what some of you other guys are doing go to the newsagents and buy the good ones. well thats my ***** for the day cheers barry.

[Nick Short]

I noticed in several newsagents here that they have a "bargain bin" of unfinished part-works, including build a robot, Lord of the Rings, puzzles, and the rally collection. Looks as though it may be going the way of every part work I've ever seen sold in the UK - they never reach the end due to lack of sales.

[Esses]

Shame, 'cause here they seem to be selling very well. The exception would be the newsy that I buy from as he is in a high "Retirement" area & interest in the Rally-cars is not high, hence his interest in old Holdens.:)

[timbo333]

I'm still waiting for the Transit Van & Escort.

How much longer????:(

[Andrew]

I wish I could get the transit van... As I get mine held through the newsagent, I am not able to get the gifts, despite the fact that I 'subscribe' EVERY issue through my newsagent! :mad:

Anyway, I am really enjoying the series so far. But I have to say I am disappointed with the Subaru. The lack of detail looks most prominent on this release. The plain tail light lenses make it look very bare.

I have noticed a couple of mistakes too. The Escort of Makinen's 1994 Finland victory sasy Serpo Harjanne was his co-driver. I thought it was Seppo, not Serpo....

And Makinen's 1999 New Zealand Lancer Evo VI is actually the Evo VI.5 as run on the 2001 season. They ran with a revised front bumper/intercooler housing in 2001 from when the Evo VI debuted in 1999. Take a look at the pics in the brochure of the real car, then compare them to front of the model. They are different...

Really though, for the price they are, I'm not really going to complain...

[Andrew]

Has anyone seen the Carlos Sainz Collection that is appearing on international (European) ebay?

I have seen a Celica and Lancia for sale. They appear to be similar to the DeAgostini cars in their type of release.

I wonder whether we might see something similar, or whether it is European/Spanish only?

[singer]

I'm not getting the Transit Van Trailer etc as I am buying from my local Newsagent rather than subscribing through the Publisher.

The Publisher has not provided the Newsagent the same incentives to improve sales, just themselves

I've bought from my local Newsagent for 17 years & the local knowledge has helped in the past, as well as in my dealings with my model supplier

:)

[Tumbo]

Originally posted by Andrew
Has anyone seen the Carlos Sainz Collection that is appearing on international (European) ebay?

I have seen a Celica and Lancia for sale. They appear to be similar to the DeAgostini cars in their type of release.

I wonder whether we might see something similar, or whether it is European/Spanish only?

Have seen it on ebay, also available is the infamous 555 Catalunya impreza. For quality ask lachlan who I believe has the first 4 cars ;)

[lachlan]

Sure do,
There great models, The quality is up there with the normal IXO rally models. Much better than the collection were getting here, which is the same as IXO Junior. Don't get me wrong though, for $16.95 there great value.
I'm hopefully going to get the whole Carlos Sains collection, I have a friend in spain buying them for me. I can't wait to get the next one, a ford sierra.
But at the moment I'm more excited about some other rally models that I have lined up;) .

3 days to go, and off to Perth. I cant wait!!

[rex555]

Does anyone have any links to these European models? I'd be interested in seeing them but don't have time to trawl through sites at work. (Just time to chat on forums:D )

[rex555]

Here it is. I really like the free gift. Unfortunately it looks like being Spain only. It would be fine if the UK were included as well.

http://www.altaya.es/ficha.php?id=102

The detail on the models looks really good.

[timbo333]

Received the Lancia 037 and a Ford Cosworth on Tuesday.

The Lancia looks great...not fussed on the cossie though. Both my boxes were cracked from transit/delivery but the cars are undamaged.

I think thats issues #16 & #17 i'm up to now. Still no sign of the Transit Van & Escort package though.

Cheers,

Timbo.

[rex555]

Prolly only get the Transit if you keep going to Issue 50:rolleyes:

[Andrew]

Just had a look at the Carlos Sainz colelction link. Wow! Carlos is the greatest ever in my opinion, so it kills me not being able to grab his collection!:mad:

The packaging looks fantastic, and the 'signed' bases look the business too. The 1990 Celica looks great, and the weathered appearance on the 1995 Impreza looks great too.

I wish we got that here in Oz.

[rex555]

Did you check out the free gifts? DVD, pictures and the diorama.

I also had a look at their Rally Car Collection. Some nice models but only 43 of them. Many the same as those in the Aust collections but with some differances.

[Andrew]

I saw the DVD, but not the pictures or diorama!
Wow! I just went back and checked it - that is FANTASTIC!!!

Lucky Spanish......:mad:

[lachlan]

I've got the DVD but its in Spanish, the old footage is great!

[GSXR1]

That Sainz Collection looks awesome!

I ummed and aarghed about the De'Agostini ones and decided to pick and choose the odd one here and there, but I reckon I'd get the Sainz ones in a heartbeat!

It's not until I looked at the link and remembered how many different cars Carlos has driven over his career - Celicas, Imprezas, Xsaras, Sierras, Corollas, Escort Cosworths, Renault 5s, Focus's and my favourite, the Delta Integrale, as well as as quite a few others as well.

[rex555]

And next year he's going to be driving in the Paris-Dakar for VW I believe.

[Esses]

Originally posted by timbo333
Received the Lancia 037 and a Ford Cosworth on Tuesday.

The Lancia looks great...not fussed on the cossie though. Both my boxes were cracked from transit/delivery but the cars are undamaged.

I think thats issues #16 & #17 i'm up to now. Still no sign of the Transit Van & Escort package though.

Cheers,

Timbo.

Interesting that we've got 2 different time-lines going here. We "cherry-pickers" are only up to #9 - the Triumph TR7 V8. Love this one, there's just something mad about dropping a 3.5 ltr V8 into a little 1.8 ltr TWO-WD Sports Car (bit like a 2.6 ltr six into a 1.1 ltr Torana, really) & taking it Rallying. But why didn't they call it the TR8?
Got to get TWO of the next one, an extra for my Portugese FIL, it's a Rally of Portugal edition.:)

[Nick Short]

It followed on from the TR6 and so irrespective of engine it was the TR7! However there were a number of non-factory cars built, and these were known as TR8......

[GSXR1]

Originally posted by Steve
Interesting that we've got 2 different time-lines going here. We "cherry-pickers" are only up to #9 Steve, I'm cherry-picking too, but in Perth we were up to the RS200 last time I looked in the newsagent :cool: :D

[Esses]

Originally posted by Nick Short
It followed on from the TR6 and so irrespective of engine it was the TR7! However there were a number of non-factory cars built, and these were known as TR8......

Yeah, the standard B series 1.8 ltr TR7 followed the TR6, but the V8 TR7 was a bit of an afterthought, like the MGB GT V8. Like: "Golly, how can we make these lumps go quicker?".
I just thought that the name TR8 would've been poetic - V8, TR8?
Like the XU-8 Commodores.

[rex555]

Steve,

It appears that the subscription is about 2-3 months ahead of the newsagent except for in Perth which was used as a test case.

[GSXR1]

What he said ;)

On reflection my post probably didn't explain that as well as I'd intended. As mentioned at the beginning of this thread those of us lucky enough to reside in Perth get to see it a few weeks before you guys in the east.

[GSXR1]

Had a look today and the latest on the news-stands in Perth is #16 - the Safari Rally Lancia 037

[RSSierra]

It would seem someone has received their Transit and Escort free gift.

Check out the following ebay auction. I have posted the auction number rather than the link.

6987085662

Definitely looks like something to look forward to. We haven't even started seeing the collection here in NZ. Hopefully there will be a few of these left by the time they get here.

[RSSierra]

The above auction closed with the Ford Works Transit, Trailer and Escort selling for a whopping 146 quid or nearly AU$350.00.

That is not a bad price for what is supposed to be a free gift.

Any of this "gift" arrived in Oz yet??

[rex555]

Haven't got mine yet and I subscribe. One of the invoices that I got some months ago had it listed on there as 'Awaiting Arrival'

[Esses]

Got the Lancia Delta today, nice little model. For some reason it was only $7.95, maybe 'cause it was a week late?:)

[bazzel]

hi all been a little while since anybody posted here .
i am still waiting for no 9-10 been a few months since i have had anything of bisset magazine i rang them they said something about they were all sitting on the docks some f@#where in the world is there anybody still waiting for theirs or what , no freebies or nothing either has anybody tried to ring them to find out whats going on i would like to here what they said to you.
bisset magazine is the worst mob i have ever delt with my ***** for the day cheers barry

[singer]

Originally posted by Esses
Got the Lancia Delta today, nice little model. For some reason it was only $7.95, maybe 'cause it was a week late?

Me too!!!!!!!!!!!:) :D

[rex555]

Well I got No. 18 on Friday but only No. 18 (usually come in pairs). This was the Timo Makinen Monte Mini No. 177

The next one will supposedly be 1999 Acropolis Focus of McCrash & Grist (and I was hoping for something good;) )

[bazzel]

Hi all got no9--10 today no news on the freebies what a suprise .
are the people in WA getting their frebbies or are you in the same boat waiting hoping cheers barry

[rex555]

Originally posted by bazzel
Hi all got no9--10 today no news on the freebies what a suprise .
are the people in WA getting their frebbies or are you in the same boat waiting hoping cheers barry

I've got everything except for the Transit van/Escort set.

2xPictures, binder and Mini Monte diorama

[timbo333]

Monday night i got the Mini (part 18 i think!!) only.

As others have said i normally get 2 cars/issues per delivery so i don't know what is going on there. Not a sign of things to come i hope....:(

I'll give them till issue 20 to get me the Escort and Transit van package. If no joy by then i will be contacting them etc.

The mini looks great and will go on the diorama with the other one that i have had for a while.

Cheers,

Timbo.

[rex555]

I'm waiting for the Alpine then I'm taking the Mini off the dio. Adding some tyre marks (anyone know where I can get 1:43 scale figures without costing a fortune?) and maybe a bit of snow as well. A real Monte diorama:D

[Andrew]

Originally posted by rex555
I'm waiting for the Alpine then I'm taking the Mini off the dio. Adding some tyre marks (anyone know where I can get 1:43 scale figures without costing a fortune?) and maybe a bit of snow as well. A real Monte diorama:D

The diorama would look great with snow, ice, and Piero Liatti's 1997 Impreza WRC made by Trofeu. He won the event that year and the car looks fantastic. That would make a top dio!:D

[Esses]

Got # 10, the Lancia. The next one is a Subie, but can anyone tell me what comes after that? Nos. 12, 13, 14 etc? I'll be away for a while after January so I don't want to miss any good ones.

[rex555]

11 Subaru Impreza 555 R.A.C 1995 Mc Rae/Ringer
12 Peugeot 307 Monte Carlo 2004 Gronholm.
13. Datsun 240Z East African Rally 1971 Harimann
14. BMW M3 Béguin/Lenne Tour de Corse 2003
15 Ford RS200 Sweden 1986 Grundel/Melander
16 Lancia 037 Evo Safari 1984 Auriol/Giraudet
17 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS
18.Mini Cooper Monte Carlo 1967 Rauno Altonnen
19.Ford Focus McRae/Grist Acropolis Rally 1999

[Esses]

Thanks, Rex. A few there I'd really like. Must get Wifey onto it.:)

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by rex555
11 Subaru Impreza 555 R.A.C 1995 Mc Rae/Ringer
12 Peugeot 307 Monte Carlo 2004 Gronholm.
13. Datsun 240Z East African Rally 1971 Harimann
14. BMW M3 Béguin/Lenne Tour de Corse 2003
15 Ford RS200 Sweden 1986 Grundel/Melander
16 Lancia 037 Evo Safari 1984 Auriol/Giraudet
17 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS
18.Mini Cooper Monte Carlo 1967 Rauno Altonnen
19.Ford Focus McRae/Grist Acropolis Rally 1999

We are just past the #19, which is a shocker by the way.

[rex555]

For those into older rally cars check out the Slowly Sideways page. I'm somewhere on the hill in the background of Deutchland 2004. Lots of nice Group Bs too including Audi E2

http://82.165.32.230/mcklein4/index.php?index=12&idb_cmd=show_collection&idb_collection_id=295&idb_page=1

[KiwiRallyFan]

Originally posted by rex555
For those into older rally cars check out the Slowly Sideways page....
Wow, that's a great website. I haven't seen that one before. There are some great old pics in there. Thanks.

:)

[Nick Short]

Mmmm, very nice! Especially the 2005 Eifel Historic. I used to be a member of The Group B Car Club in the UK, but they disbanded and have been incorporated into Slowly Sideways I understand. Looking at the cars, especially the Group Bs, how many have been made in 1:18? Not many......I'm still waiting for the 6R4, Manta and Ascona 400s, various quattros (but especially the E2!), 037s and Integrales not made by Kyosho (don't like 'em!), Renault 5 Turbos, RS200, Peugeot T16, Nissan 240RS, Porsche 911 SCRS, the list goes on.

[KiwiRallyFan]

It's also nice to see the historic cars can race with their original adverstising (both tobacco and alcohol).

[rex555]

I was just wondering if anyone who has subscribed to this collection has received anything after Issue 18, the Monte Mini?

Since the last delivery was only one car I was expecting something last week but so far nothing. Anyone shed some light?

[cagney]

I have had nothing from them in near 2 months,Parts 10 and 11,I rang and got everything form they were sent on the 28th,they were returned,and you should have them in 2-4 weeks,I think there is a shipping problem,but the lovely lady did say she heard a rumour that the transit/escort gift might be here in late January!,I really hope so..

[timbo333]

I have had nothing either since the last issue (Mini) which came on its own incidentally not 2 issues like usual.

I hope the New Year brings more issues and the missing 'gift' of the Transit/Escort package.

Please post in here if anyone gets issues etc past the Mini.

Cheers,

Timbo.

[Andrew]

Do you think it would be possible to for those of us not subscribed thorugh the publisher but who get every issue 'subscribed' through the newsagent to try to wangle a Van, trailer and car by 'asking' the newsagent to become the subscriber on our behalf? It's the only thing I can think of.

[Esses]

Keep checking eBay. There's been at least one set go there.

[Andrew]

The problem is though, that they go for silly money - and they are free gifts!!!!

I was thinking of the newsagent subscrbing as a way of getting the set like other direct subscribers.

[Tumbo]

just got issue 12 myself.....not really interested in the rest of the collection as I have heaps of other cars to get but....now all i need are a set of marlboro pug 307 decals :D

[timbo333]

Originally posted by Andrew
The problem is though, that they go for silly money - and they are free gifts!!!!

I was thinking of the newsagent subscrbing as a way of getting the set like other direct subscribers.

Hi Andrew,

I think your answer is in your question. Unless you are getting the subscription 'direct' to your own address i can't see the publisher allowing subscriptions through a newsagent, particularly if its a late one.

I also think you had to subscribe reasonably early on in the piece to get the 'free gifts', but hopefully i'm wrong!

Try it though, you never know. Good luck mate!

Cheers,

Timbo.

[Andrew]

I will give it a try, after all, the worst that can happen is they say no....

[ferrari fan]

got the Porsche 911 Carrera RS winning model of Monaco 1978.
J.P. Nicolas- V. Laverne ,Apperantly, they leased it!!
Awsome model and I think very sought after, as it has not been made before.

[rex555]

So FF what number Issue are you up to? I still haven't got anything since the Mini and I'm on the same subscription as you guys in the west.

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by rex555
So FF what number Issue are you up to? I still haven't got anything since the Mini and I'm on the same subscription as you guys in the west.

#20
Next one will be a Hyundai Accent#11F. Loix.

[rex555]

Thanks for that. So that means I'm 2 behind you now.:(

[ferrari fan]

Originally posted by rex555
Thanks for that. So that means I'm 2 behind you now.:(

No it just means that you can still look forward to them.
Make sure that you get the Porsche, exelent model esp. for the price.
I also collect the motorbike series and that is looking very good with MV 500 and a NSR500 just been released.
I actualy have a1/1 scale NSR Rothmans edition (freddie Spencer) so very happy.

[Esses]

Anyone seen any of these in the Newsagents? Last one here was the Lancia before Xmas, nothing since then that I've seen.:(

I really, really want the Monte Mini.

[rex555]

Just been in contact with Bisset Mags (distributors) and they are saying that Issues 19, 20 & 21 should all be despatched next week in one group along with free gift no.3 (Ford Transit I hope) and another binder.

This is in line with the WA subscription which I'm on. (Even tho' ferarri fan has his earlier than that)

[bigdave]

i picked up one today it was the datsun 240z, how far behind are we? as i would like the porsche and hyundai in my collection.

[rex555]

Originally posted by bigdave
i picked up one today it was the datsun 240z, how far behind are we? as i would like the porsche and hyundai in my collection.

Some are up to Issues 18-20

[lachlan]

Just got issue 17 Ford Sierra and 18 the Mini. I also got the Ford Transit Van!!!! Woo Hoo.......... Took there time but its finaly here. Have you seen the price of some of these on ebay:eek:

[Esses]

Yes, silly money on ebay. Have to start watching the Newsies again. I want that Mini!:D

[cagney]

You lucky devils,Im a subscriber in NSW and iv'e just got parts 10 and 11,least from you blokes i know whats coming!.;)

[Esses]

Just got the 240Z. Top model. Have to keep watching out.

[rex555]

I got the Transit/Escort gift and up to date with the rest of the collection on Tuesday. Got to say that the Porsche looks great. The Transit and Escort look good but I'm not so fixated on it that if someone offered me the money thay are asking on EvilBay that I wouldn't part with it.

BTW the next issue will be the Mouton/Pons Audi Quattro

[rex555]

BTW does anyone know where I can get some 1/43 HB decals from for the Audi S1?

[timbo333]

BTW does anyone know where I can get some 1/43 HB decals from for the Audi S1?

Have you tried Patto's Place?

Also i have been brought up to date now (issue 21). Very pleased with the 3 cars (Focus, Porsche & Hyundai) plus finally getting the long awaited Escort/Transit Van. Still to take mine out of the packaging though.

Turning out to be a great collection for sure....

Cheers,

Timbo.

[rex555]

Have you tried Patto's Place?

Cheers,

Timbo.

Yes I did but firstly he needs some form of search facility but also there is nothing under Audi and I don't know who else they sponsored.

[bazzel]

hi guys some good news to the people who have not got their transit van and trailer well i got mine yesterday and the look good so who ever has not got one they will be there soon hopfully since they are asking big prices for these i might swap mine of for a 1/18 you never no the car on the trailer is the same paint job as the truck they do look good probaly the best out of all of them cheers barry

[rex555]

I got the decals from Pattos Place for the missing Gitanes logos for the 1978 Porsche. Looks much less naked now. :D

Just need to find the correct Rothmans signage for the BMW and then I'm going to try to convert another Porsche into the Dakar 911 SC.

Finding pictures with all the logos is tricky and on the McKlein web site they are too small to see clearly and I ain't buying them.

[lachlan]

I've found the Patto's decals are to pixelated, I got the Rothmans decals from him for the 1:43 IXO BMW and you can’t even read them there so bad. I've started to try making my own with better resolution, I’ll see how I go.

[rex555]

I've found the Patto's decals are to pixelated, I got the Rothmans decals from him for the 1:43 IXO BMW and you can’t even read them there so bad. I've started to try making my own with better resolution, I’ll see how I go.

I noticed that the Gitanes text was slightly blurry but my eyes aren't the best these days anyway for small detailed stuff. I don't have the skills or equipment to do them myself, anyway.

Lachlan, what did you do for the cursive writing on the roof of the car? I looked on his site but couldn't find anything close.

[rex555]

Received the next 2 in the series last night.

No.22 Audi Quattro Mouton/Pons San Remo 1981
No.23 Lancia Stratos 'Pirelli' 1978
No. 24 will be the Renault 5 Maxi Turbo in blue and red.

Attached the Porsche 911 with and without additional decals.

[lachlan]

I'm working on making my own for the roof, I will let you know how I get on.

[rex555]

I'm working on making my own for the roof, I will let you know how I get on.

Ta. Be interested to see how you go.

One thing I noticed was with the 2003 Pug 206. The McKlein desk top calendar I have shows the car on the start ramp with full Marlboro sponsorship yet I believe that it was raced without as the 1:43 scale car was presented. Anyone else noticed this? I think the same photo also appears in one of the magazines.

[Tumbo]

When in the Monte Carlo provence the cars can run w/ full tobacco sponsership, however when running on the stages in France they can't. :D You can see this back to when the EU first introduced the Tobacco bans

[rex555]

Thanks for that, I never realized.

[cagney]

I just got parts 14 and 15,but one of the cases is cracked in two places,thats four now ,anyone else whos subscribed having this problem ?,wonder if i should ask for replacement tops!.

[bazzel]

hi guys back again just got no15 yesterday i only got one in the mail that is new to me why wait 1 month and only send 1 i would like to send bisset this thread so they can see people with the prodlems they seem to have and if they read this thread at all come on bissett get it right.
cheers barry

[singer]

hi guys back again just got no15 yesterday i only got one in the mail that is new to me why wait 1 month and only send 1 i would like to send bisset this thread so they can see people with the prodlems they seem to have and if they read this thread at all come on bissett get it right.
cheers barry

Ditto, however I received my Monte Diorama Complete with Mini with Pt 15:)

[rex555]

I just got parts 14 and 15,but one of the cases is cracked in two places,thats four now ,anyone else whos subscribed having this problem ?,wonder if i should ask for replacement tops!.

I've had about the same number broken however once I get the cabinet they are in sealed against dust, I'll be removing them all and putting them in storage. I'd say that most likely it isn't Bisset it is the courier company that may be treating them roughly.

[Esses]

Got No. 16 today (well, Wifey did) the Safari Lancia 037 Evo. What a top model - visible engine & all - in 1/43. Love it. Sierra next & then the MINI.:D

[rex555]

No. 24 is the Renault 5 Turbo of Ragnotti
No. 25 Evo 3 Lancer Tommi Makinen 100 Lakes
That takes us to 1/2 way through the series
No. 26 will be the Mk 1 Escort of Makinen/Liddon

[rex555]

No. 24 is the Renault 5 Turbo of Ragnotti
No. 25 Evo 3 Lancer Tommi Makinen 100 Lakes
That takes us to 1/2 way through the series
No. 26 will be the Mk 1 Escort of Makinen/Liddon
No. 27 is the Saab 96V4 of Blomquist from Sweden
No. 28 will be the Toyota Celica of Sainz/Loeb Acropolis 1990

[Tumbo]

Loeb? Don't you mean Moya Neil? LOL

[rex555]

Loeb? Don't you mean Moya Neil? LOL
D'oh. Yes, you know exactly what I mean

[KiwiRallyFan]

This magazine and collectable rally cars are now being advertised here in NZ (on the telly and at http://www.deagostini.co.nz/rallycar/flash.htm (http://www.deagostini.co.nz) ).

Should I start another collection as there appear to be some intersting models there? Can someone tell what the quality is like; they look a lot like iXo models.

[singer]

This magazine and collectable rally cars are now being advertised here in NZ (on the telly and at http://www.deagostini.co.nz/rallycar/flash.htm (http://www.deagostini.co.nz) ).

Should I start another collection as there appear to be some intersting models there? Can someone tell what the quality is like; they look a lot like iXo models.

Go for it. Its a great collection:cool:

I/ve started another collection I think they are IXO.

A worthwhile addittion to my collection, My son has adopted these as his collection too:D

Very impressed with the overall quality & finish:)

[rex555]

Yep, what Singer said. Go for it. The collection is great, a potted history of World Rallying. The models are mostly iXO (with some ring ins that they haven't produced, I believe) but they don't have the detailed interior. For the price they are a bargain IMHO.

No. 28 was the 1990 Toyota Celica of Sainz/Moya (needs Marlboro decals)
No. 29 was the Skoda Fabia, a nice little model but the shade of green isn't quite right (I believe)
No. 30 will be the 1985 Lancia Delta S4 of Toivonen/Wilson RAC Rally

[V8SS]

This magazine and collectable rally cars are now being advertised here in NZ (on the telly and at http://www.deagostini.co.nz/rallycar/flash.htm (http://www.deagostini.co.nz) ).

Should I start another collection as there appear to be some intersting models there? Can someone tell what the quality is like; they look a lot like iXo models.

John
I saw the Peugeot issue in Whitcoulls. The model looks OK. 1:43rd I think and it comes in its own plastic display case. I was wondering if you'd start collecting these:)

[rex555]

No. 28 was the 1990 Toyota Celica of Sainz/Moya (needs Marlboro decals)
No. 29 was the Skoda Fabia, a nice little model but the shade of green isn't quite right (I believe)
No. 30 will be the 1985 Lancia Delta S4 of Toivonen/Wilson RAC Rally

No.31 (another) Toyota Celica Sainz/Moya RACC 1992 looking naked without a lot of Marlboro livery.
No. 32 will be the FIAT Arbarth 131 1979 1000 Lakes.

Can't say that there is many left to go that I REALLY want.

[Andrew]

I picked up some old cars - around 19, 20, 21 issues. The Hyundai Accent WRC is a pearler. Apart from the blank interior, it looks great!

[rex555]

As above, Issue 32 was the 131 Arbarth 'Alitalia' looks like I have a new favorite :D
Issue 33 was the Alfa Romeo TZ 1964
Issue 34 will be the Pug 205 T16

[Esses]

I haven't bought one since the Mini, but the 131 looks like a goer.:) Probably the Alfa, too.
What I really like about this series is the variety. Lotsa different makes & styles.:)

[VXfan]

This seems to be turning into an impressive little collection.Does anyone have pics of all the cars so far?
Cheers,
Tony.

[bazzel]

hi all hey tony i thought you would have these ones the are sweet little rides for the money .i am led to beleive that they are made by ixo with out the brand name i dont supose it matters who makes them they are nice cars .
just a bit of a hassle with the company who you subscribe to lately they have been sending me one a month ,suposed to be two .
go to the news agent tony have a look you will like them. ring up bisset magazine service it is in dandynong to you might be able to go there and get them direct .cheers bazz.

[VXfan]

hi all hey tony i thought you would have these ones the are sweet little rides for the money .i am led to beleive that they are made by ixo with out the brand name i dont supose it matters who makes them they are nice cars .
just a bit of a hassle with the company who you subscribe to lately they have been sending me one a month ,suposed to be two .
go to the news agent tony have a look you will like them. ring up bisset magazine service it is in dandynong to you might be able to go there and get them direct .cheers bazz.
Thanks Baz but I think my collection is stretched far enough already!!:D
Cheers,
Tony.

[ferrari fan]

Just picked it up the Alfa Romeo TZ (Zagato)
Very rare car.
There is an extra light on the nav's side, it came loose, and is not in the pic.
But has been glued back on.

[Esses]

Nice shot, FF. I'm definitely getting one of those.:)

[Mark Wicks]

Tony-VXfan, here's a link to a pic taken a while back, so not all of the cars are in it, but it gives an idea of the first 20-odd models. Will look awesome in the cabinet once they've all arrived!

http://www.wickstechnic.com/IMGP1995.jpg

For the price (and from a distance...), the cars aren't too bad. I don't collect rally cars, but the price of these changed my mind!

[VXfan]

Tony-VXfan, here's a link to a pic taken a while back, so not all of the cars are in it, but it gives an idea of the first 20-odd models. Will look awesome in the cabinet once they've all arrived!

http://www.wickstechnic.com/IMGP1995.jpg

For the price (and from a distance...), the cars aren't too bad. I don't collect rally cars, but the price of these changed my mind!
Thanks Mark,looks an impressive little collection indeed.:)
Cheers,
Tony.

[Esses]

Got # 26, the RS1600 Mk I Escort - Very nice. Next up is the Saab 96 V4. That's what's so good about this collection - the variety.

[rex555]

Here are some pix of the collection up to issue 33. I've been identifying the holes so I can start filling them out of Biantes stock when I'm able to.

Wait for them to clear.

[rex555]

While I was working in Melbourne last week the next 2 came.

No. 35 Relault Clio S1600 Simon Jean Joseph - minus Gitanes logos
No. 36 will be the Opel Ascona of Walter Rohl - minus Rothmans logos, those wonderfull 'Racing' ones instead. They did mess up tho' since the cover of the S1600 shows the car with full ciggie livery, a situation which is usually blanked out.

[Tumbo]

hey Rex is the red subaru I see on in your photos a code 3 of a car you have driven? Any more detail :)

[rex555]

hey Rex is the red subaru I see on in your photos a code 3 of a car you have driven? Any more detail :)

I was the co-driver last year. Guy in Broken Hill is the driver. The photo in the back was the car in action in BH last year (if you can make it out in the dust). We came to a 'sudden and unexpected stop' in the rally of SA last year which is why we aren't competing this year. That and we are both very busy with our respective works.

Neil

[Tumbo]

"Sudden and Unexpected" .....hmm.....let me guess a tree was involved ;)

[rex555]

"Sudden and Unexpected" .....hmm.....let me guess a tree was involved ;)

Errrrr, yes.

Same one that Cody hit in about 01? Still bits of his car under the leaf litter, so I figure following in his footsteps we could be ARC champions in a couple more years :D

[Tumbo]

gives you a good story to tell in the pub thats for sure :D

[rex555]

Wife doesn't like me going to the pub, someone may talk me into getting into another rally car ;)

[jab79]

Rex555

i just got the skoda fabia volume 29, your right looking at it closely the green is slightly different. still for less than 20 bucks, shouldnt complain to much.

how far is everyone else up to in collecting these and whats your favourite. mine at the moment is fiat 131 abarth. cant wait for the corolla 1999 and the ford escort 1998. love the group b cars

[rex555]

Next 2 arrived yesterday.

Opel Ascona with full 'Racing' livery and the Lancia Fulvia looking absolutely naked.

[jab79]

absolutely naked would usually be great, but for a rally car, i am not too sure.

Opel would look alot better iam guessing. So what number are we up to now rex555

[rex555]

Number 37. No. 38 will be the Talbot of Frequelain/Todt. Not many left now that I'm hanging out for. Mainly 959 and Alpine

[jab79]

found this below link on ebay $US which has a number of the cars in here.
looks great once completed. alot more on the main diecast page under the name altaya diecast not deagostini. still if the price is right you cant complain


http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-OF-43-RALLY-COLLECTION-CAR-1-43_W0QQitemZ220019930911QQihZ012QQcategoryZ223QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem

[Buffalo]

found this below link on ebay $US which has a number of the cars in here.
looks great once completed. alot more on the main diecast page under the name altaya diecast not deagostini. still if the price is right you cant complain


http://cgi.ebay.com/LOT-OF-43-RALLY-COLLECTION-CAR-1-43_W0QQitemZ220019930911QQihZ012QQcategoryZ223QQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem

mmmm ...tempting .... I discarded this collection when it first came out thinking it wasn;t going to be any good but seems it has turned out to be quite an impressive collection !! .... Is this collection of 43 cars the full set or are there some missing ??

[rex555]

Should be 50? I believe the Italians got 60 with more Italian cars and S1600. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I worked it out that the set will have cost me about $800 delivered to the door and with freebies.

[Andrew]

Which works out to be good value for the cars you get, plus the informative magazines (even if there are a few errors in them)

[bazzel]

hi all just wanting to now if anybody has missed out on no 22 im up to 28 now they told me they had none in stock is anybody else had this problem .
or any problem (would not be unusual) .
cheers barry

[rex555]

hi all just wanting to now if anybody has missed out on no 22 im up to 28 now they told me they had none in stock is anybody else had this problem .
or any problem (would not be unusual) .
cheers barry

No, I got mine OK but that was some time ago.

[Mark Wicks]

A similar thing happened for me on one of the other earlier issue numbers. It did eventually come into stock and was posted out to me, but it was a wait of several months. I assume you have telephoned them to ensure it's not just an admin mess up??

[Nobes]

I had to wait for 19 and 21 I seem to recall, but eventually received them. Do you order through a Newsagent? If so, keep asking them. I think Gordon & Gotch are the distributors in OZ. Maybe give them a call.

[bazzel]

hi and thanks the name of the mob who give them out is bisset magazine service in dandynong victoria and you think ring them , im on first name basis with them from the motor bike collection they stuff me so much unreal.
it has been ok this time apart from no 22 its been good i will give them a ring again and see whats happening cheers guys barry.

[rex555]

Got 38 & 39 last night. Only a week before they were supposed to be despatched, so maybe this should be on the "What makes me happy" thread.

38 was the Talbot Lotus, a very bland little car without the lights/decals
39 Citroen Saxo S1600 D.Sola RACC 2002, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. When there are still so many good cars they could have included, they put this one in.

40 will be the Sainz/Moya Toyota Corolla Rally Oz.

[jab79]

just got Lancia Delta S4 (number 30) from the newsagent, this was one week late for some reason as well, but now that i have it, it will make the weekend feel a little better.

the only thing that can top it is getting the atkinson new zealand car that i bought from biante today. :D

[Leigh]

39 Citroen Saxo S1600 D.Sola RACC 2002, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. When there are still so many good cars they could have included, they put this one in.
Sounds just like the "Classic Cars of the World" collection they did...some of them deserve to be binned:eek:

[KiwiRallyFan]

Daniel Sola did win the Junior World Rally Championship at Rally Great Britain in 2002 in the Saxo. That's probably a good enough reason for a model...

[rex555]

Next 2 arrived today.

40. Sainz/Moya Rally Oz Corolla 1998. IIRC didn't they leave that car in Oz after the event for Bates to take on Possum?
41. Skoda Octavia Rally Monte 2003

Both nice looking cars and good to see something to fill the gap between 1995 and 1999. One of the mags has the 1998 championship win of Tommi and while there is a long distance picture of the front of the car they didn't show the classic of Moya 'putting his helmet away' through the back window at Margam Park. ;)

42. is another snoozemobile Fiat Punto S1600

[malscar]

Next 2 arrived today.

40. Sainz/Moya Rally Oz Corolla 1998. IIRC didn't they leave that car in Oz after the event for Bates to take on Possum?


The original Corolla he used in Australia was the one Bates drove in Indonesia and Australia in '97 and subsequently kept here for his Aust campaign.

He did get a new car in I think '99 which Auriol tested here in Canberra in Feb. He rolled it and although it looked minor, needed a new body shell. Neal was not happy.

[Nick Short]

To be honest I'm amazed this series is still going! The usual pattern with d'Agostini stuff seems to be a gradual loss of interest by consumers and the series ending early. Then another series starts up (collector's pocket watches, build a robot, the human skeleton, learn calligraphy week by week, teapots of the world, that sort of thing) and once more interest fades and the series ends early. I imagine there's a big warehouse full of unsold parts that are then resold the next time that particular series starts again. So if you don't get whichever issues you've been waiting for, give it 5 years and they'll start again.......

[Tumbo]

This series has done so well overseas that 2 other verions were started in Europe; the Carlos Sainz and Monte Carlo sets; wonder if these will ever hit our shores? detail looked slightly higher for these ones

[rex555]

Neal was not happy.

Is he ever and how do you tell? :D

[rex555]

This series has done so well overseas that 2 other verions were started in Europe; the Carlos Sainz and Monte Carlo sets; wonder if these will ever hit our shores? detail looked slightly higher for these ones

I notice that they still have the Sainz collection for sale in the Altaya web site. If I could speak Spanish I'd ask if I could buy a set as a job lot. They now have a set of specifically Spanish drivers as well, and their 100 years of motor racing which has some nice cars in it as well.

[Nobes]

Just picked up #33 with the Alfa Romeo TZ from 1964. Not bad.

Next week is the Puegoet 205 T16 from 1986

[ferrari fan]

Just picked up #33 with the Alfa Romeo TZ from 1964. Not bad.

Next week is the Puegoet 205 T16 from 1986

That was here in WA (Wait Awhile) a few months ago!!
I even posted a picture of it ,just for Jager.

[Nobes]

Strewth!! I thought those posts were from someone in Europe!! LOL

Oh well. Wonder why we are so far behind in the issues over here?

[rex555]

Well the west is a long way away from the rest of us. ;)

When I first enquired about this collection it was due to the comments on this forum of guys over in the west saying that it had been released. The company uses either SA or WA as a test case for these part works series. If they do well in that state they release them across the country about 8-10 weeks after their initial release. Which explains why everyone else is so far behind in the series.

[brchi17]

I notice that they still have the Sainz collection for sale in the Altaya web site. If I could speak Spanish I'd ask if I could buy a set as a job lot. They now have a set of specifically Spanish drivers as well, and their 100 years of motor racing which has some nice cars in it as well.

is that the Carlos Sainz collection by any chance ?

I bought a couple of these cars off eBay & they are top shelf in terms of quality, plus they're in a perspex case, which makes them easier to store until I can display them :D

[lachlan]

If you go back a couple of pages in the "What rally cars have brought lately" thread I have posted a pic with all of the Sainz Models so far, they are really well made the same quaity as normal IXO models. There are only about 10 left in the collection.