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VXfan
28-07-2005, 11:59 AM
Need to pick the brains of some of you knowledgable forum members out there.
Was John Bowe's 95 atcc winning car an EF Falcon? Was it car #18?
I am confused as Gatewaymodels has a 96 JB EF Falcon by CC which is a #18 car.Didn't he run car#1 in 96?Is this a misprint and the #18 car is in fact 1995?
Just want to know as I have a smattering of ATCC cars in 1:43 and would like JB's winning car.
Thanks in advance for ur help guys.:)

Dingo
28-07-2005, 12:05 PM
Bowe ran #18 in 1995. He ran #1 in 1996.

HTH.

VXfan
28-07-2005, 12:10 PM
Thanks Dingo,I thought so.

Leigh
28-07-2005, 12:21 PM
The first cars Classics modelled were 1996, so definately not the 1995 car...

There was a number 1 car released very early on in the Classics range (model 2001) that is the 1996 SATCC car. (Model Cars of the World has one for $40)

From memory, the 2018 car was released because there were two #1 cars (Lowndes 1996 SATCC model was also released with #1) and is depicted as the PR car was painted. The Sandown and Bathurst car were slightly different.

When was it that DJR went to the red nose? 1997 or 1998? I ask because maybe the 2018 car is the 1997 car?

Cheers

VXfan
28-07-2005, 12:26 PM
I've seen a pic of the 2018 and it is an FAI sponsored one without the 'red nose'.

VXfan
28-07-2005, 12:40 PM
I've been informed that this model represents the car that Bowe drove in the latter part of 1996so doesnt look like a 1995 car was made -bummer.:(

Leigh
28-07-2005, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by VXfan
I've seen a pic of the 2018 and it is an FAI sponsored one without the 'red nose'.
OOPS...I meant the 2018-1 (but forgot the -1)

The reason being, when you look at Gateway and Model Cars of the World Website they have

2001 - 1996 (Shell FAI)
2018 - 1996 (Shell FAI)
2018-1 - 1998 (Shell Helix, red nose)

Bowe never drove the 18 car in 1996, as he co-drove with Johnson at Sandown and Bathurst...

I thought that CC's made a 1997 car...but that list seems to imply they didn't:confused:

Cheers

brchi17
28-07-2005, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Dingo
Bowe ran #18 in 1995. He ran #1 in 1996.

HTH.

From memory when John clinched the title in race 1 or 2? at Oran Park & the team crossed out the #8 on the side of his car for the final race of the round.

John then did run the proper #1 from round 1 of the 1996 season under Shell-Fai colours.

The red nosed (yellow tailed) cars did not arrive until the use of the EL at the start of 1997 season. FAI decided not the re-new their sponsorship & the team was re-named Shell Helix Racing.

As to whether the EL released by classics was a 97 or 98, I am not sure, but in my records (of what I have) I have them listed as 1997 because they match the posters I have of the 1997 cars.

cheers. :)

inter
28-07-2005, 03:06 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dingo
[B]Bowe ran #18 in 1995. He ran #1 in 1996.

I could be wrong here, this is just memory talking but i thiught that bowe ran with N#1 at bathurst in 1995 due to the fact that he had already clinched the championship.

inter

brchi17
28-07-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by inter
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dingo
[B]Bowe ran #18 in 1995. He ran #1 in 1996.

I could be wrong here, this is just memory talking but i thiught that bowe ran with N#1 at bathurst in 1995 due to the fact that he had already clinched the championship.

inter

Which Bathurst are you talking about (1000km or ATCC) because he ran in #17 for the 1000.

cheers. :)

inter
28-07-2005, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by brchi17
Which Bathurst are you talking about (1000km or ATCC) because he ran in #17 for the 1000.

cheers. :)


I was talking the 1000km, i must be incorrect ( getting old you know).

cheers inter

brchi17
28-07-2005, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by inter
I was talking the 1000km, i must be incorrect ( getting old you know).

cheers inter

That's cool, as a side note, JB ran #17 at Bathurst from 1988 to 1997 (see attached pic) when Dick teamed up with Jr & JB stayed in #18 which he shared with Cam McConville.

cheers. :)

ferrari fan
28-07-2005, 04:23 PM
I have one of these 2001 #1 Bowe Fords.
It comes with a separate decalset inside the box for you to place on the model.
It also has a little warning sheet with it that warns that standing on it (Excessive downwards preasure) may cause damage to the wheels and other components;)
The model looks like it should be a EF and does have the ATCC livery on it.
Masport on front window.

VXfan
28-07-2005, 07:42 PM
That's the one I'll probably end up getting Bert.Then I'll be after a Seton #30 1997.Oh dear,I've just created yet another different theme to my growing collection!

ferrari fan
29-07-2005, 07:26 AM
By the way, there is a ex DJR EF FORD racecar here in Perth, still in the original paint minus decals.
Nice piece of gear:)
It is/was in the workshop of one of my friends.

VXfan
29-07-2005, 07:33 AM
Sounds cool Bert but I have enough trouble paying for 1:18's let alone 1/1's :D