What is the latest BIANTE 1/43 Bathurst winner released?

[ferrari fan]

Rightyo;
We have a specific topic for the 1/43 scale Bathurst winners collection.
I have started to get this collection going and any info on what has been released and what is coming is more than welcome.
Got to say that the Morris 1976 winner looks very sharp.
This has made me consider collecting this scale as well.
I am now after the 1991 winner. Have the 1992 winner.
Need the 2002 Kmart winner.Have the 2003 Spiderman.
Also need the 2004, 2005 and the FORD 2006!
Plus all the other ones.

[ferrari fan]

First blunder;
I already have the 2005 Winner #60566 (auto art)

[ferrari fan]

Could anyone help out with a complete list of 1/43 scale Bathurstwinners available from Auto Art, Biante, Motor Racing Legends, Please?
Also The Brock Plato/Skaife Kelly twin set looks wrong as in the Skaife- Kelly car seems different than the 1/18 and 1/43 scale model I have.
Am I correct?
The Spider man car has only got 2200 ex??

[Dingo]

Also The Brock Plato/Skaife Kelly twin set looks wrong as in the Skaife- Kelly car seems different than the 1/18 and 1/43 scale model I have.
That would be the 2004 car in the twin set. The 2005 car comes seperately.

[Leigh]

Bert,

I'll do a dump of my 1:43 Bathurst Winners database for Biante/Auto Art and Classics next time I boot up the dinosaur at home...Will include release numbers and item numbers as well if you like;)

Cheers

[ferrari fan]

Thanks very much in advance.
I am just a novice in regards to the 1/43 scale department

[malscar]

Also The Brock Plato/Skaife Kelly twin set looks wrong as in the Skaife- Kelly car seems different than the 1/18 and 1/43 scale model I have.
Am I correct?

In which way Bert?

I myself believe that it sits too high and seems too narrow. The wheels also seem too small. There are some other small things that could be better.

[BB]

Thanks very much in advance.
I am just a novice in regards to the 1/43 scale department

Welcome to the world of the little people:D

[ferrari fan]

I have a large amount of F1 1/43 scale models, but did not collect any of the 1/43 of the Biante range.
This new scale will give me something to collects again.
the pleasure of the chase so to speak.

[jager]

I just heard that Classics have also released the 1971 65E winner in 1:43 this week as a limited run of 3,000 pieces. The 1:43 has obviously been overshadowed by the debate over Classic's release of the 1:18, so this has perhaps slipped through un-noticed by some.

I checked the Biante website for the Legends series and was a little surprised not to find this listed as a forthcoming release. Is this correct ? If so I guess I'll have to get the Classics version.

[ferrari fan]

Any news on what they are like?

[Graeme]

The Biante 'Motor Racing Legends' series in 1:43 scale is intended to comprise a cross-section of racing cars that competed in Australia in the not so recent past, or which competed internationally with Australian drivers in the not so recent past. We have not created a specific 'Bathurst Winners Collection' in 1:43 scale.

However, the website illustrates some of the red-boxed 'Legends' cars that are currently scheduled and that also happen to be Bathurst winners - in brief :

1968 - #13 HK Monaro GTS327
1969 - #44 HT Monaro GTS350
1972 - #28 LJ Torana GTR XU-1
1973 - #9 XA Falcon GT
1976 - #7 LH Torana L34 (Released)
1977 - #1 & #2 XC Falcons (Twin Set)
1981 - #17 XD Falcon
1987 - #10 VL Commodore SS Group A

[ferrari fan]

Yes, Yes, I 'll have all!
Nobody with a current list of winners already released??

[Leigh]

Bert, here's a list minus the 1976 and 1971 winners (havn't had a chance to update my database with them yet:() This is only relatively recent releases and does not include older brands (i.e. Trax etc).

Year Manufacturer Item No Total Made Race Number Driver/s Model Make
1964 Classic Carlectables 43531 3000 15C Jane/Reynolds GT Ford Cortina
1965 Classic Carlectables 43535 3000 11D Seton, B/Bosworth GT 500 Ford Cortina
1967 Classic Carlectables 43566 2000 52D Gibson/Firth XR GT Ford Falcon
1971 Classic Carlectables
1976 Biante
1987 Minichamps 430 878006 1824 6 Soper/Dieudonne RS 500 Ford Sierra (Disqualified)
1991 Biante B431301B 3000 1 Skaife/Richards, J. GTR Nissan Skyline
1992 Biante B431301A 3000 1 Skaife/Richards, J. GTR Nissan Skyline
1996 Classic Carlectables 1001-1 1 Lowndes/Murphy VR Holden Commodore
1997 Classic Carlectables 1011-1 11 Perkins/Ingall VS Holden Commodore
1998 Classic Carlectables 2004-1 4 Bright/Richards EL Ford Falcon
1998 Onyx (Vitesse) XTC99001 3000 40 Rydell/Richards, J. S40 Volvo
1999 Classic Carlectables 1007-3 8000 7 Richards / Murphy VT Holden Commodore
2000 Classic Carlectables 1034-2 4000 34 Tander/Bargwanna VT Hoden Commodore
2001 Auto Art A60169 1200 1, 1, 2, 2 Skaife/Longhurst, Skaife, Bright/Mezera, Bright VX Holden Commodore (This is only available in the four car pack)
2002 Auto Art A60271 5000 1 Skaife/Richards VX Holden Commodore
2003 Auto Art A60364 3000 51 Murphy/R. Kelly VY Holden Commodore
2004 Auto Art A60459 2200 15 Murphy/R. Kelly VY Holden Commodore
2005 Auto Art A60566 2005 2 Skaife VZ Holden Commodore

The 1996-2000 CC models are the old style blacked-out window type:(

[Leigh]

The Biante 'Motor Racing Legends' series in 1:43 scale is intended to comprise a cross-section of racing cars that competed in Australia in the not so recent past, or which competed internationally with Australian drivers in the not so recent past. We have not created a specific 'Bathurst Winners Collection' in 1:43 scale.

However, the website illustrates some of the red-boxed 'Legends' cars that are currently scheduled and that also happen to be Bathurst winners - in brief :

1968 - #13 HK Monaro GTS327
1969 - #44 HT Monaro GTS350
1972 - #28 LJ Torana GTR XU-1
1973 - #9 XA Falcon GT
1976 - #7 LH Torana L34 (Released)
1977 - #1 & #2 XC Falcons (Twin Set)
1981 - #17 XD Falcon
1987 - #10 VL Commodore SS Group A
You forgot 1974 (http://www.biante.com.au/product_17636.htm)

[jager]

The Biante 'Motor Racing Legends' series in 1:43 scale is intended to comprise a cross-section of racing cars that competed in Australia in the not so recent past, or which competed internationally with Australian drivers in the not so recent past. We have not created a specific 'Bathurst Winners Collection' in 1:43 scale.

However, the website illustrates some of the red-boxed 'Legends' cars that are currently scheduled and that also happen to be Bathurst winners - in brief :

1968 - #13 HK Monaro GTS327
1969 - #44 HT Monaro GTS350
1972 - #28 LJ Torana GTR XU-1
1973 - #9 XA Falcon GT
1976 - #7 LH Torana L34 (Released)
1977 - #1 & #2 XC Falcons (Twin Set)
1981 - #17 XD Falcon
1987 - #10 VL Commodore SS Group A

That's great Graeme, but one has to ask why the 1971 winner isn't on the list when you've released it in 1:18 and 1:64 and you have Mr Moffat under licence. Personally I would have thought there would have been more collectors looking for this car than many others on the list - that was until yesterday when the CC version was released.

[Graeme]

Jager,

Trevor Young created the Legends series concept and he chose a broad range of cars to model. Yes, I agree, some other cars might be considered more popular, but I don't think that 'the numbers' were of any real concern when Trevor drafted the production list.

And, oops ... I missed the 1974 Goss car because we had it listed in the regular Touring Car category - now rectified.

[malscar]

And, oops ... I missed the 1974 Goss car because we had it listed in the regular Touring Car category - now rectified.


This had been mentioned previously both via the forum and email.:rolleyes:

[Mark Wicks]

I too am putting together my own 1/43 Bathurst winners collection (Biante, CC, Trax, Onyx - whatever brand is required) and that 1976 winning Torana from Biante's MRL series is the pick of the bunch so far! Man, it is a gem, and don't those wheels look great!

[Leigh]

Just picked up my CC 65E last night.

Very impressed with the opening bonnet...when closed this makes the shaker stand out, rather than other models with shakers where the shaker could easily be mistaken for a fancy bonnet scoop! Gaps around the bonnet are very close to being to scale...one of the biggest complaints about opening parts models at 1:43...

Detail is sensational, it is just a massive shame that accuracy has been thrown out the window...most notably are the HO rims that simply look like hubcaps and worse yet is the two black bonnet stripes becoming one massive fat black-out behind the shaker! The two bonnet stripes should stay as two bonnet stripes (http://www.autopics.com.au/cache/item-694public.html?cache=no) all the way to the front window!

Overall I'd give it a 7.5/10...losing 1.5 points for the bonnet stripes alone!

[Nobes]

Leigh, the stripes finish at the shaker. Here is a screen grab of the car from the race.

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9903/65etp7.jpg

[ferrari fan]

I also did have a look at the latest 1/43 1971 winners offering and put it back on the shelf.

[Leigh]

Nobes,

Look closely, you can see a lighter area between the stripes at the back of the shaker in your picture...shadows can do great things in photography!

Now have a look at the picture I linked to!

Cheers

[Rob]

Need the 2002 Kmart winner.Have the 2003 Spiderman.


You"ll never get a 02 Kmart winner as they didn't win it.
HRT won in 2002, Kmart 2003 and (Spiderman) 2004.

[Nobes]

Nobes,

Look closely, you can see a lighter area between the stripes at the back of the shaker in your picture...shadows can do great things in photography!

Now have a look at the picture I linked to!

Cheers

Leigh,

I'm sorry, but if you want, I will put up quite a few more screen grabs, in colour of the bonnet.

The stripes end at the shaker.

Cheers.:)

[ferrari fan]

You"ll never get a 02 Kmart winner as they didn't win it.
HRT won in 2002, Kmart 2003 and (Spiderman) 2004.
Told you I am a newby, and I rearranged my 1/18 scale Winners without looking at the propper info, cause I did have a wonderfull glass of red in my hands, and trying to make them fit in the new display.
Silly me...... nuff said!

[Nobes]

Here is a closer picture. I think it clearly shows there is no stripe aft of the shaker and there are no shadows.

Probably best to view the film I am using, from the "The Great Race -Bathurst 1967 - 1974" by Chevron.

Look I dont really care either way, just that this is what I found. Happy for people to believe otherwise. :)

[ferrari fan]

It just proves that the research on these older cars is fraught with obstacles and very hard to get 100% correct.
Even on a car like a winner, never mind the rest of the field

[Rob]

Told you I am a newby, and I rearranged my 1/18 scale Winners without looking at the propper info, cause I did have a wonderfull glass of red in my hands, and trying to make them fit in the new display.
Silly me...... nuff said!

That's ok FF. They probably should have won in 02 if not for
the 5 minute penalty, then I would have done (liveries) 3
Bathurst winners in a row.

[Nobes]

It just proves that the research on these older cars is fraught with obstacles and very hard to get 100% correct.
Even on a car like a winner, never mind the rest of the field

Absolutely right Bert.

8 years ago, when the 65E was made by Biante, the few above car shots shown in films like the one I referenced would be very hard to freeze frame. There are very few shots available in the public arena, or readily accessible of quality that show the offending part of the 65E car. I do have some other screen capture off the film, but unless asked I wont post them.

With the benefit of slomo on DVDs, it is a little easier to pick up than off say a VHS tape.

I dont care all that much about it, as the models I have of the 71 car, and others, probably have little faults of detail, but I like them for what the represent to me, memories.:)

[jager]

I also did have a look at the latest 1/43 1971 winners offering and put it back on the shelf.

Why ? Biante have no existing plans to make the '71 winner in 1:43, so it's the CC version or nothing. OK, the wheels could be better, but in general I think its a good representation.

[malscar]

If you look in the 65E thread, I posted a photo of the car from a book printed in 1993 showing the car clearly. If the research is not done fully, then no excuses can be used.

[brchi17]

I also did have a look at the latest 1/43 1971 winners offering and put it back on the shelf.

Interesting you say this as I was shown the 1/43 when I picked up my Johnson XC on Friday & I was really unsure about it, needless to say, I didn't bring it home either

[Leigh]

If you look in the 65E thread, I posted a photo of the car from a book printed in 1993 showing the car clearly. If the research is not done fully, then no excuses can be used.
Having a look at that pic, it's fairly convincing that the area behind the shaker was not red...but it was definately a different colour/shade to the rest of the stripes, otherwise it would not show up in the b&w photo...unless it was balcked out on raceday?

[rusky26]

Having a look at that pic, it's fairly convincing that the area behind the shaker was not red...but it was definately a different colour/shade to the rest of the stripes, otherwise it would not show up in the b&w photo...unless it was balcked out on raceday?

maybe it because of the louvres/slots/what-ever you call them in front of the windscreen?
The slots seem to be in the original stripes, while the part in question in on flat metal, which would give a different look/shade/colour to the paint.

[jager]

Noticed that another 1:43 Bathurst winner is in transit from Biante – the 1977 Falcon XC. (www.biante.com.au/product_16380.htm). Can’t say I’m happy that it’s only being released as a two car set which forces me to buy a car I don’t want and won't display, but there was enough discussion about that with the 1:18 version.

With the recent release of the 1981 winner the 1:43 Bathurst collection is coming along nicely. By my count this would be the 17th 'quality' winner to be released from Biante, CC, Vanguards & Minichamps (excluding the black window CC versions).

I’ve also noticed growing interest in 1:43 winners. The more winners that get released, the more people that seem to be collecting them and considering that most sold for ~ $50, it seems you don’t get any change out of $100 for a lot of them these days (perhaps it's time for Inter to start a 1:43 prices thread).


A$330 for the 2001, 4 car set (the only way to get the 2001 winner) :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-43-2001-BATHURST-WINNERS-SET-PERSONALLY-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ300173803697QQihZ020QQcategoryZ271 57QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A$132.50 for the 2003 winner :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BATHURST-WINNER-2003-MURPHY-KELLY-1-43-KMART-RACING_W0QQitemZ190173538617QQihZ009QQcategoryZ271 57QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A$121.50 for the 1992 winner :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-43-WINFIELD-NISSAN-SKYLINE-GTR-1992-BATHURST-WINNER_W0QQitemZ150180405037QQihZ005QQcategoryZ111 875QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A$112.50 for the 2005 winner :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BATHURST-WINNER-2005-Skaife-Kelly-Holden-Biante-1-43_W0QQitemZ200168650266QQihZ010QQcategoryZ111875Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A$102.50 for the recently released 1981 winner :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1-43-Dick-Johnson-1981-XD-17-Bathurst-Winner-Biante_W0QQitemZ190174506691QQihZ009QQcategoryZ111 875QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A$100.00 for the 2004 winner :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BATHURST-2004-WINNER-SPIDER-MAN-CAR-MURPHY-KELLY-1-43_W0QQitemZ230189242052QQihZ013QQcategoryZ111875Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


A$98.50 for the 1967 winner :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/1967-BATHURST-WINNER-1-43-MIMB_W0QQitemZ190169110091QQihZ009QQcategoryZ11187 9QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[brchi17]

gee makes he happy that I only paid $197 for my 2001 winner a fortnight ago :D

[Oh Five]

Yeh I'm buggered if i can work it out, I sold one a few weeks back for less than RRP ($230) as i had it for sale for a couple of years for $200!! and no takers.
The 2005 car, well there are 3 or 4 at my dealers i can get for $40 if i want them:confused:

[Leigh]

LOL, I bought one a few years ago for $140...I found that a reasonable price given I only wanted the championship and bathurst winning cars:D

[HDTHSVHRT]

The 2001 four car set has been on ebay a few times lately and there have been no takers at 150!!! :confused:

[jager]

While looking through the list of 1:43 Bathurst winners planned I saw that the Brock/Richards '78 Holden A9X is scheduled for release in January '08 :

http://www.biante.com.au/product_19801.htm

The '76 Winning L34 is one of the best 1:43 Biante have released to date so I hope the '78 winner is just as hot. Hope you've got the decals ready Bert !

[CowboyMatt]

the '77 1:43 cars are In Transit.

My local model shop anticipates early December arrival - this week hopefully.

[Raider 351]

the '77 1:43 cars are In Transit.

My local model shop anticipates early December arrival - this week hopefully.

That would be great ! I've been waiting for these in 1:43 for a long time.:)

Cheers
Raider 351

[mick xu1]

I noticed the 4 Johnson Falcons are in transit 82,83,84 Champ, 84 Bathurst & 84 Masterton Bathurst car

does anyone know if we will see these cars b4 Christmas.......hope so.....I have seen the 1/64 Masterton mini looks outstanding...so the 1/43 should be just as good

[Troy_H]

Apparently not before xmas, that probably all now until next year from what i was told.

[Raider 351]

Apparently not before xmas, that probably all now until next year from what i was told.


Does that include the 77 twin set? If it does it's probably not a bad thing as I need to save up the $ to buy 7x1:43's that will probably be released at roughly the same time.

Cheers
Raider 351