admin...1:18 Charger ?

[cleveland]

Admin,

Can you please advise us collectors if you will be releasing a 1:18 Charger. I must have one and will buy the CC model if you dont tell us. I would much rather wait and get a BIANTE model but I have to know before the CC is released.

cleveland

PS does anyone else want to see the Chargers and Pacers? :cool:

[BATHURSTFAN]

Is that purple one from Classics due in Jan 03 @ $195.00?, I would rather a racing model, but thats from a Ford fan.

[7Litre]

Vee for Victory,
Unleash the Pacer VF Pacer in Wild Blue, Wild Yellow and Wild Red.
VG Pacer in Bondi Bleach White, Hot Mustard, Little Hood Riding Red, Thar She Blu and Hemi Orange.

Mopar needs more of a mention.

[rusky26]

I can't wait for the the chargers and pacers to come out. hopefully the performance models, E38 etc

[SWRT]

Valliant Charger race cars would be good.
Leo Geoghagans orange #2(4th in 1972),Doug Chivas country dealer team #15(3rd in 1972),Norm Beechys yellow Shell #41 and others.
With Hot memorabilia bringing out the Brut 33 Moffat mustang sports sedan-it makes you think there should be more models of older 70's sports sedans made.FM models did Moffs Capri and Dinkim have done Jim Richards mustang.
The Charger sports sedan of Mccorback(said to be a Charger shell over a F5000) would be a hot seller.
Grice and Frank Gadners Chev Corsia,Moffs Chev Monza,those super falcons(XA-XC) and others would make gr
eat models.

[MONAROMAN]

Im with 7liter on this one.....I hope to collect a Pacer or 2 (thar she blue!) and a couple of Chargers but I too will buy the CC model if Biante cannot verify they will make one(Id prefer Biante though).

Does anyone know what the differances between the E38/E49 and an E55 is (spec & looks)?

[AussieCuda]

I've been wondering when someone was finally going to recognise the 3rd of the big 3 companies from Australia's proud heritage.

I too would prefer a Biante model over CC, but to finally add a Valiant Charger to my collection, I'll take the first one available regardless of who makes it. And I garauntee other die hard Mopar fans will be the same and show their support (with their wallets) for the company that has been first to listen to their needs.

MONAROMAN E38/E49 were both 265 tripple webber powered cars with the wild stripe kits. The E38 had a slightly milder cam and a 3 speed manual, whereas the E49 had a slightly bigger cam and the much needed 4 speed manual. Externally the E49 has a 4 cutout in the vertical stripe on the front guard, no hood scoop, and no black bonnet.

The E55 was powered by a 340 backed by an auto and had no stripes.

[admin]

As stated many times before, we are making the Charger in 1:18th.
However, it is quite messy in the licensing side as Chrysler Australia was owned by MMA and had almost zero to do with Chrysler Corp. USA.
We got written approval to release the 43rds, which we have done, but now, all the licensing has reverted back to Daimler-Chrysler and all previous deals are off!
It is now almost through the final steps and the full range of Australian Chryslers will be released.
Please appreciate that our company making these models is a multi hundreds of million dollar company and will not take ANY risks in licensing, for obvious reasons.
When its all signed off, we will release the E49 and then work through all the other vehicles of note..many of which have been mentioned and asked for before.
You can support who ever you like, but dont accuse us of not "listening to your needs". We tooled these over 18 months ago, but will not go ahead without the license.

[cleveland]

Admin,

Thats good enough for me. I'll wait for the Biante models, hopefully they will be released in the near future.

Thanks for the speedy reply.

cleveland
:D

[MONAROMAN]

[thanks for your wisdom Ausiecuda,

so the E55 was just a plain jane Charger with auto v8?

Is their any differance to front/rear sheet metal (lights/grills/ect) to the other Chargers like in a model change(eg VH or VK)?

I ask because if not then it is not worth collecting a model that shows little performance heratige.

Thanks

[AussieCuda]

Thanks for clearing that up Admin I can fully understand where you are coming from now.

I also appologise if I sounded like I was having a dig at your company, as I certainly am not. As Chrysler fans we've been frustrated that it has taken so very long for Valiants to start appearing in 1:18 when Fords and Holdens have been for years.

We're just concerned that we'd been forgotten...

MonaroMan, Yes the E55 was essentially just a V8 auto Charger, although it was a 340 V8.

There was no external difference from an E55 in regards to panels lights etc. from other models except they had that vinyl padding behind the rear side windows (same as luxury 770 model) instead of the simulated vents of the base and R/T models.

[croweater]

Originally posted by admin
As stated many times before, we are making the Charger in 1:18th.
However, it is quite messy in the licensing side as Chrysler Australia was owned by MMA and had almost zero to do with Chrysler Corp. USA.
We got written approval to release the 43rds, which we have done, but now, all the licensing has reverted back to Daimler-Chrysler and all previous deals are off!
It is now almost through the final steps and the full range of Australian Chryslers will be released.
Please appreciate that our company making these models is a multi hundreds of million dollar company and will not take ANY risks in licensing, for obvious reasons.
When its all signed off, we will release the E49 and then work through all the other vehicles of note..many of which have been mentioned and asked for before.
You can support who ever you like, but dont accuse us of not "listening to your needs". We tooled these over 18 months ago, but will not go ahead without the license.

[croweater]

Does that mean Classic Carlectables don't have a license? If so, does that matter - I think anything over 16 or 17 years old has lost all copyright protection - does anybody know? If that is true, how about releasing the Chargers in 1:18 now?

[AussieCuda]

When millions of dollars are on the line Croweater I don't think it is worth the risk. Best to keep things above board.

Getting permission to use logos, names etc. is possible it just takes time and in some cases money.

I have recently obtained written permission from DaimlerChrysler on behalf of the Charger Club of WA to use the Chrysler Pentastar logo on custom club registration plates. Everyone told me I had no chance at all, but I got there in the end...

[croweater]

Thanks for that AussieCuda - though it probably doesn't answer my question 100%. I understand that Trax don't get involved in licensing - amazing considering all the various models they make - or is it just that 17 year old thing again?

[Graeme]

I used a 'thumbs up' icon, because no Hey Charger fingers are on the choice panel.

My brother had a rare VH E37 770 Charger, one of about 100 made, and one of only two painted a lurid green called Green Go.
One special item I recall was that the 770 E37s featured unique pressed metal sill panels running between the wheel arches, in place of the standard 770 chrome trim.

To put all the Chargers into perspective, the VH model was introduced in August 1971 and came in four basic forms, being Charger, Charger XL, Charger 770, and Charger R/T.
These Chargers pretty much corresponded to sedan versions of the same level, namely Valiant, Valiant Ranger, Valiant Regal, and Valiant Pacer.
Six cylinder engines were the 215, 245, 265, and two versions of the 265 'six pack'. The milder E37 'six pack' was available on all Chargers and Valiant sedans, except the very base models.
The higher performance E38 'six pack' was reserved as an option on the R/T and Pacer only.
Initially, only one V8 was available, being the 318, but in late 1972 the 340 was introduced as the E55 option on what was effectively a Charger 770, but with unique features. The 340 was a bored out 318 wearing a 4bbl carbie and auto transmission.
It was nevertheless a rapid car but not what Chrysler originally intended, watered down following the Supercar Scare of mid-1972.

The only surviving 'supercar' of that time was the R/T E49, which featured a third evolution of the 'six pack' and a 4spd manual gearbox. It managed a third placing at Bathurst and probably deserved better but for pitstop problems.
Only 149 E49's were made in ten different colours of which only one car was painted Arctic White and one painted Ebony Black.
The greatest number were painted orange, either Vitamin C or Hemi Orange.

When the VJ Charger arrived in March 1973, the Charger R/T was dropped from the model list. However, you could still buy a 'six pack' Charger with 4spd manual gearbox, but with engine tune at E37 specification..... this was the new E48 option available on all Chargers and Valiants, but for the very base models.

There was also another unique Charger option in the VJ range and this was the 360 V8 option..... maybe AussieCuda can check on the actual option code for this one? The E55 V8 died with the VH range and the 360 was borrowed from the topline 'Chrysler by Chrysler'. As with all Chrysler V8's, the 360 was only available with automatic transmission and, as far as I recall, only available on the Charger 770. The 318 V8 was also still available.
Both the 318 and 360 ran a 2bbl carbie so whilst power was somewhat stiffled, the longer stroke 360 had lots of torque to compensate.

At some time prior to the mild VK facelift in late 1975, the E48 engine option was deleted from the VJ model range.
With the introduction of the VK, the Charger became available only as either the XL or 770, with the 318 and 360 V8s still offered as options on the 770.

The VK was a short lived item, replaced by the four headlight
re-nosed CL model in October 1976. This was the Charger's final flicker, available only in 770 form and suffering the demise of the 360 V8 option. The Valiant Charger died in early 1978; the CM model Valiant was not released with a Charger variant.